Why the US isn't worried about China's new H-20 STEALTH BOMBER
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
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Last month, China's People's Liberation Army Air Force Deputy Commander Wang Wei announced China is about to unveil the nation's first-ever heavy payload stealth bomber - a platform we've long known as the H-20 (though its real designation has yet to be revealed). This is a significant development, as the United States has been the only nation on the planet with a stealth bomber in service for nearly three decades now.
But this week, US intelligence officials have gone on record to say that this new Chinese stealth bomber is "not really" a concern... So what gives?
Let's talk about the H-20, and why it isn't causing American Defense officials any lost sleep.
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Doesn’t need to be as stealthy when it has hypersonic missiles with 500-1000Km range
J20 is a failure... It is considered a 4.5 gen aircraft.
I wish you’d put that yellow bar on the bottom during the advertisement. Otherwise love all your content.
When the discovery channel did an episode on the stealth fighter, all stealth aircraft was detectable and lockable lol "We" just never needed to use it.
When you order your B-2 on Wish...
Temu! 😂
Dammit! Beat me to it....
Well played
@@Netraven001 -I was going to say Etsy, but Temu is much funnier... 😅😅😅
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I wonder if the H-20 is filled with water too. I mean the name does say H20.
😂😂😂😂 noice
see what happens when you watch c.i.a propaganda? who told you chinese filled their weapons with water?
TOFU 🧆🍮 and Noodle 🍲
It will be quickly in a cross-pacific conflict..
Lol😂
The B-2 Stealth Bomber was in development when Jimmy Carter was President! It didn't fly until 1989. Building a Stealth Bomber is not trivial. And now we have 35 more years of stealth experience. We have years of experience building them, and we have the same amount of time figuring out how to detect and target them.
After 32 years, I still get chills when I see a B-2 Spirit. That is easily my favorite plane ever.
One thing a lot of people don't talk about is that in order to make a good stealth-busting radar, you need great stealth aircraft to test it against over and over until you have everything configured just right.
The US has been testing its own stealth-busting radars against the F-22 and B-2 for a long time. I have no doubt that the current-gen radar systems employed by the U.S are more than ready to detect, track and intercept Chinese 5th gen aircraft. The same goes for Russian aircraft, but calling the SU-57 "stealth" is like calling the Titanic unsinkable, and the SU-75 is a PR ploy at best
At least in part we're telling anyone or Braging about it.
Lol. SU75. SU75 is like those crappy quick cash scam game on steam. Just think of The Day After when you think of the SU75 project.
Doesn't the SU-57 have the same RCS as a Super Hornet? It might be stealthy compared to other Russian aircraft which would allow it to get a little closer but not significantly enough to launch missiles and get away with it.
@@MotoroidARFC : Yeah, it's RCS is 1-5.24M2. It also visible on commercial radar apparently.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 is that with the signal booster mounted or without? I know that US aircraft usually have them mounted when traveling to allow air traffic control to see them; similar to motorcyclists wearing hi-viz vests at night.
Add on: it also hides their true RCS figures when the signal booster is mounted.
I perform EMC engineering testing in a lab for military and aerospace vehicles and components. People have No Idea how much testing that is needed in order to build something as impressive as a B2 Bomber. It's Years and Years of testing and mountains of data is needed to get it right. Being in that field has really opened my eyes as to how much effort goes into creating and testing these technologies. We Are Elite!
Do you know anything about Ronald Rayguns star wars nuclear missile defense? Their are videos online of the plans they have and i wonder when it will be complete.
How much testing is needed to build something FAR LESS IMPRESSIVE than B2.
@@ImaStupidNobodyLook up GBI. They decided not to build a system big enoughto defend against Russia, but big enough to defend against Iran, North Korea and Chins.
@@ImaStupidNobody- What you miss is that Reagan’s SDI was a masterful red-herring. The funds that were ostensibly targeted at SDI were mostly re-directed into Stealth. This was a major factor in the defeat of the Soviets. They had been spending most of their defense budget on anti-ballistic missile defense (something that was, at the time, impractical) only to have Stealth revealed. They went into panic mode trying to catch up and spent their way into collapse.
The history books won’t cover the story for political reasons, but Reagan’s SDI/Stealth head-fake was a genius strategy that executed to perfection!
TSMC 🇹🇼 Slava
"We have the B-2 bomber at home"
The B-2 at home:
Inside China, it is generally agreed that the H-20 is definitely the most stealth airplane ever. Because no one has ever seen one.
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Ma FARDs are Stealthier than H20 💯
It might not even exist.
@@Einstein_Kumar most westerners love and respect India.
It is strange that there is a common perception among Indians that westerners hate or disrespect India; that is a lie perpetuated by India's neighbors. You need to go out to see the truth.
Many westerners (just "many", not majority) study sanskrit, yoga, and the vedas. You should know that.
Oh but we don't watch Bollywood movies. It's a bit difficult for western audience to understand.
@@Einstein_Kumar we in the US do not trust China, and we trust China less and less every day.
There is so much defense misinformation out there on youtube I really appreciate having a reputable source of information to turn to on here that tries to look at things as objectively as possible amid a sea of hysteria. Sandboxx remains criminally underrated. Y'all kick ass.
Well, some military misinformation are intentional, so... 🤷🏼♂️
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@@Booz2020
DPP embraces LGBTQIA+ agenda
Chinese hardware seems to work fine when a green screen is present.
...or just pure CGI. 😅
😂😂😂😂😂 right lol. We should check out their moon landings next lol
They do love those animations, it makes them look good! 😂
😂😂 so true 😂😂
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Nothing will ever compete with Russian stealth technology. Nobody can find their stealth fighters anywhere 😂
Alex, you have become one of my main go-to sites for serious and educated sources when I am researching topics along your line (just of layman's news). I'm more informed than most everyone I know (and that may not be saying a lot), but I also realized not long after I began watching your channel that you're not just out there waving Ole Glory and grandstanding the USA (which I don't mind if it's backed up by facts), you really do your homework and I consider you a legitimate source of knowledge that I would quote a source. Thanks for all of your efforts. I enjoy them, but most importantly I feel like I'm walking away edified with factual knowledge. You're the best Buddy! 👍
China is like that kid trying to copy your homework over the phone and still gets it wrong
just like this stale meme you are parroting mate.
@@ylstorage7085rent fucking free
@@ylstorage7085 Is that avatar Your real photo?
@@jj4791 bastila shan, photoshoped to be a bit more photo realistic. was done a decade ago. game was 2 decades old.
Its not a meme its a saying that has existed for a long time before anything that could display a meme was even built. So it stands. Can copy all you want but if you dont understand what you are copying, and havent ended up with any counter intelligence (which is unlikely) China makes the worst knock offs. They overplayed their hand against the US and got caught, now their manufacturing and tech industries will begin to fall apart. Being a tyrant can only get you so far in China. Xi has broken the social contract by squaring up to the West and the economic costs have the potential to see even more abandoned factories and cities.
Hope your surgery went well Alex!
A source suggests he is gained considerable capabilities post procedure, such as 25x magnification and thermal sensory. But as alas, these are merely claims until proven; we can only hope he is well.
The surgery provided an upgrade in the modularity and lethality of his Mark 1 Eyeball.
@@saberdogface Indeed, even as we speak, Lockheed Motrin has announced the beginnings of works on the Block 2 upgrade whose goal is to increase the efficiency of data flow via the streamlining of information processing with the assistance of the next generation, state of the art AI.
In addition to the increase of processing power and efficiency of operations, Lockheed Motrin will take advantage of the modular 'Hawk Eye' framework to introduce yet more capabilities into the Block 2 package such as LIDAR and the ability to receive video feeds directly from the 'eye's of other friendly troops. When questioned of this decision in the face of increased power requirements, a spokesperson stated, "...[this] feature will allow the warfighter to take full advantage of their sensory suite by pairing LIDAR with thermal, magnification and proprietary AI-assisted resolution upscaling technology to produce a near full spectrum sight picture of the battlefield and dramatically increase the accuracy and lethality and effects of the platforms employed by the warfighter. For this reason, we encourage the troops to maintain a healthy physical regimen and a nutritional diet to ensure adequate energy for optimal performance."
As of this time of writing, Lockheed Motrin has declined to comment on an estimated timeline for the Block 2 rollout but what is for sure is Lockheed Motrin's commitment to the evolution of America's future warfighters.
@@saberdogface Indeed, even as we speak, Lockheed Motrin has announced the beginnings of works on the Block 2 upgrade whose goal is to increase the efficiency of data flow via the streamlining of information processing with the assistance of the next generation, state of the art AI.
In addition to the increase of processing power and efficiency of operations, Lockheed Motrin will take advantage of the modular 'Hawk Eye' framework to introduce yet more capabilities into the Block 2 package such as LIDAR and the ability to receive video feeds directly from the 'eyes' of other friendly troops. When questioned of this decision in the face of increased power requirements, a spokesperson stated, "...[this] feature will allow the warfighter to take full advantage of their sensory suite by pairing LIDAR with thermal, magnification and proprietary AI-assisted resolution upscaling technology to produce a near full spectrum sight picture of the battlefield and dramatically increase the accuracy and lethality and effects of the platforms employed by the warfighter. For this reason, we encourage the troops to maintain a healthy physical regimen and a nutritional diet to ensure adequate energy for optimal performance."
As of this time of writing, Lockheed Motrin has declined to comment on an estimated timeline for the Block 2 rollout but what is for sure is Lockheed Motrin's commitment to the evolution of America's future warfighters.
@@saberdogface Indeed, even as we speak, Lockheed Motrin has announced the beginnings of works on the Block 2 upgrade whose goal is to increase the efficiency of data flow via the streamlining of information processing with the assistance of the next generation, state of the art AI.
In addition to the increase of processing power and efficiency of operations, Lockheed Motrin will take advantage of the modular 'Hawk Eye' framework to introduce yet more capabilities into the Block 2 package such as LIDAR and the ability to receive video feeds directly from the 'eyes' of other friendly troops. When questioned of this decision in the face of increased power requirements, a spokesperson stated, "...[this] feature will allow the warfighter to take full advantage of their sensory suite by pairing LIDAR with thermal, magnification and proprietary AI-assisted resolution upscaling technology to produce a near full spectrum sight picture of the battlefield and dramatically increase the accuracy and lethality and effects of the platforms employed by the warfighter. For this reason, we encourage the troops to maintain a healthy physical regimen and a nutritional diet to ensure adequate energy for optimal performance."
As of this time of writing, Lockheed Motrin has declined to comment on an estimated timeline for the Block 2 rollout but what is for sure is Lockheed Motrin's commitment to the evolution of America's future warfighters.
Hope you are feeling better Alex. I appreciate you and Sandboxx. I seen the Tom Clancy book on your shelf. I love his work. Lol
8:06 Kelly Johnson...one of the greatest Americans ever! Man was a genius and did more for aviation and the defense of our country than arguably anyone!
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Imagine the shocked Pikachu face when the US Snipes it out of the sky because they've had 30 years of active testing against all known stealth technologies to refine active radar system.
Haha no shit
Yeah, spending that much money on the B21. It would be a shock.
Thats why they lost an f35
@loremipsum3147 Now imagine the number of losses an adversary incurs with decades less experience and testing under its belt.
Your guess is as good as mine due to a lack of transparency.
@@loremipsum3147 that just sounds more like the F-35's stealth being undetectable to US' radars
It is crazy to me that there were people who were alive both during the Civil War and the Korean War. Jeez what a tectonic change they lived through
My parents' generation in Korea watched their country go from a poor, backwards, mostly agrarian country to a modern, developed, advanced first world economic powerhouse. All in 50-70 years i.e. a single human lifetime.
@@vic5015 Must be South Korea. The experience was a little different in the north 😶
Koreans (N. Or S). Believe in One Korea. (Very different Koreas). They do not recognize the other government.
@@hanrockabrand95I'm aware.
I mean, the change we lived through is probably even greater. Think of going from to nearly every human being being functionally illiterate to nearly every human being having immediate personal access to almost the entirety of human knowledge at their fingertips.
The proliferation of knowledge and communication has been the most groundbreaking change in human history.
Another really well narrated episode. Thank you!
Again. Superb video dicussion and ideas. Thanks snd more video!!
China can't compete with our planes. I'm more concerned with their cyber attack abilities
It would be bad initially, but remember: we have the smartest computer engineering people on the planet. It would be all hands on deck. People aren't a fan of big tech, but the government would lean on them for resources.
We have the NSA
I think u need to be more concerned about people selling out from the inside .
We should be scared of fast-spreaded stupidity "pandemic" called TikTok. It should have been just banned in civilized world for a long time now...
@@RacingS2000
Yup, basically this.
Goshhhh I hate traitors so much.
Who else gets a little bit of nerd chills when he goes and this is "AIR POWARRRR!"
I kinda do...
I kinda do, too. My gf rolls her eyes at me
Well done, Sir Expert. That's a comprehensive history of U.S. stealth technology development in condensed form.
Unwell done by Alex ... for spewing State Dept anti-Chinese propaganda.
Another great episode, Alex! Thanks for that.
As a veteran, I watch every single video your channel puts out. I’m proud of what you’ve built and your honesty and humility surrounding it. As soon as your content drops, I dive in! Thanks a lot, brother ❤🇺🇸
Same to you. I really don’t have much knowledge in terms of knowing how the us treats it’s veterans but ima just say they need to treat y’all even better because without y’all us wouldn’t be who they are
Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾
Btw, Boeing planes had their screws, door, roof and the entire planes dropped from the sky work as prescribed, and they're a major weapon industrial complex.
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Copies do not work the same and the user manual is missing.
If their user manual is the same as the ones they do for commercial products, then there is a better than average chance they will end up bombing themselves.
This covers my favorite bit of trivia about early stealth aircraft: they were angular because we lacked the processing power to calculate higher-poly surfaces. Same reason Starfox 64 looked the way it did.
"Guns win battles.
Logistics wins wars."
Correct, there's more to it than shape and simply flying.
Yeah, but even the shape has challenges. A flying wing is a lot trickier to design and fly than most people realize.
China would also have to figure out how to avoid interception by Japanese, South Korean, and of course American fighter jets once they left their bases in China. One of the things the United States did when developing stealth technology was how to spot it once an adversary builds a stealth aircraft, so if the Chinese think they can just stroll a stealth bomber over Japan or South Korea on their way to American targets, that would be a very costly miscalculation on their part.
China is surrounded by F35s by now. J20 and H20 are only fourth gens in reality.
you forget that china is 1.45 billion people. thats more than U.S EU, canada, new zealand australia korea and japan combined.
@@levelazn What does that have to do with the price of tea in China ? ( sorry, I had to)
think about korea war 😂@@cg7982
@@cg7982 I guess he figures that 200 million people will take the planes apart and smuggle them in their knapsacks...
22,000 lbs? The A 10 Warthog can carry over 20,000 lbs. Questions: Can the H 20 fly 4,000 miles without refueling? The B2 Spirit can carry 40,000 plus lbs of payload. The B1 bomber payload is 75,000 lbs, the B52 payload is 70,000 lbs. Why would the US be worried about the H 20 bomber?
Same thing with Russian/ Soviet Union heavy bomber carrying 8000kgs less than the B1 bomber which has the greatest payload out of any bomber in the world!
Because Nukes dont weight that much anymore.
No one knows the true specs.
The main worry was about how much tech was stolen or leaked to China for them to build a copy.
From what it seems to be going, China only had barebones at best of the knowledge they needed likely merging what they gleaned with other stealth tech they stole from I'm guessing the early knowledge of the F-35 and the F-117. It seems they figured they had enough to build something and decided to go with a flying wing design, and yet didn't realize the sheer complexity of the design and the stealth requirements to ensure such a design could maintain that stealth or fly well for that matter.
If this is true it means that China might be having trouble in the complex programming needed to keep such a craft in the air, and the requirements for its stealth. Assuming its the same they are using for their fighters. This is probably why their design has tail fins, indicating they couldn't figure out all the issues and that provides stability in certain flight situations.
Also its telling that China was originally supposed to show the world the bomber as far back as 2020 or 2021 I belive. Then it was pushed up to 2022 and I believe they were going for 2023 when the US suddenly revealed the B-21 Raider and likely had China's H-20 look like a joke.
It will be interesting when they finally reveal the bomber. At most it will make a nice war trophy.
No one has even seen and we probably won't until the 2030s, if ever. So no one knows it specifications. We only knows it even existed because the Chinese said it exists.
Really well argued. Ty!
Those SR-71s were good looking birds
Hoping to be crowned King of Understatement, are you? 😉
Yessiree bob 😉
Hope your eye is doing better
Excellent. Thank you, Alex.
Great analysis as always, Alex.
Wow. china builds a handful of low-tier quasi-stealth bombers. We built 100 legitimate ones.
21 B-2s were built. 100 B-21s are planned. We will see if Congress will look at Ukraine and see what peace dividends actually are or cut the program.
Who else has ANY newly manufactured bombers?
China has no need for stealth planes. Their military focus has always been defensive. There is little need for stealth in defense.
@@piotrd.4850 Who else is trying?! Nobody! So whats your point?!
Yes, sure but you still lost to Taliban even with those 100 legitimate stealth bombers. I don't think Russia has them but you still do not dare to go to a war with Russia.
H-20 is if you order a B-2 from Temu
Brings a new meaning to Shop Like A Billionaire.
Depends on how good it is, if it's 75% as good at 40% the cost of a B-21, it's a winner. China will just outproduce the US as it is with ships right now.
This channel looks like a Indian channel trying the best to smear others and made themselves look good, nothing have been substantiated.
One thing I try to emphasize to my friends when we discuss this is, not only does the US have a massive advantage building stealth and LO/VLO platforms, it has another. It’s possibly more significant that the US has been tracking those platforms longer than anyone else. That’s why when I hear of states having anti stealth capability, I kinda took my eyes. Because outside of the US, who else can ACTUALLY test them against dozens of real world targets? With todays software driven systems, knowing how to program the signal information is maybe the greatest asset American air defense has.
Another wonderful presentation, thank you
Your videos present complicated subject in a manner that can be understood by layman such as myself - thank you very much.
I think one issue you could talk about is how the Western Alliance is getting into almost mobilization mode.
Japan is no longer a self-defense force and is getting integrated with US, Korea and upping their procurement greatly.
Australia with it inclusion into AUKUS and it's new defense plan should give the PRC pause.
So many arrayed against it these days.
China has threatened belligerence in 2027. Japan probably won't have much more than a symbolic capability beyond defending territory very far north. Until maybe 2030, Japan won't be able to offer the US more than access to Japanese territory for US based but that by itself is significant.
Australia is far further behind Japan and can provide only a presence and reconnaissance from the south. Maybe well into the 1930's Australia will have some ships and planes to shoulder some military force. Submarines bought or made domestically won't likely be available until the 1940's and that's optimistic. Until then Australia can operate only one small diesel sub and a few light ships plus an aircraft carrier which probably would need American support for defense.
@@tonysu8860 Japan has one of the most powerful and modern navies in the world. It's aircraft carrier conversion completion is still a few years down the road.
Australia's "carriers" are only suitable for helicopters and Ospreys, and it doesn't have much of a navy in general. It's air force does have F-18s and F-35s which could potentially launch long range missiles of various types.
China and Russia together build more ships than SK and Japan, especially military ships. Also, SK has just this week said it does not plan to assist the US in case of a China-invading-Taiwan scenario, which I expected. I am sure China could cause plenty of problems for SK regarding NK. Also not to mention all of SK is well within range of Chinese missiles and artillery.
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Funny twist and spin !
Parroting U$A'ss talking points about "2027" ...
No declaration of "independence" by the Ruling DPPsht = No invasion by CPC
@@tonysu8860 Australia has recently totally upgraded their northern airbases to facilitate and permanent base B2, B-21,B-1B, B-52H aircraft also air refuelers of making another worry for China gaining the south China sea.
Australia will acquire Virginia nuclear submarines in the early 2030s in 6 or so years not 2040s.
US and British nuclear submarines will be permanently based and operate from Perth Western Australia in a few years giving British Nukes access quick access to the South China Sea.
A video about the X65 and active flow control would be cool.
I'll support that one. I spoke to an F1 fluid dynamics bloke about it. Fascinating stuff.
Nice! Great episode thank you.
Here's a hint on stealth: if it has canards, it ain't stealth. Canards also indicate a lack of modern flight control technology.
Not quite. Canards aren’t inherently unstealthy, the issue is hiding it. Rear tails are also not stealthy, but as you can see in the F-22 and F-35, they blend the leading edge into the airframe to limit returns.
Canards suffer with that leading edge, but if they’re fixed and blended, then they’d be the same as rear tails.
Canards also do not indicate a primitive flight control system. European jets have some of the most advanced flight control setups out there, well on par with American ones. The canard is used because it allows for a more efficient aerodynamic profile, especially at supersonic speeds. Believe it or not, the F-22 is not optimized for high speed and high altitude. It sacrificed some of that capability for low and slow dogfighting potential.
The J-20 is not going to beat an F-22 in a dogfight, that’s for sure, but its aerodynamic profile means that it can efficiently sustain supersonic speed, and will, at least kinematically, be on par with the F-22 when fit with the WS-15 engine.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406If canards worked and were not a problem for stealth, why are they not used on US jets? The AFTI had canards, but it was only a testbed for pointing the nose without the roll axis. Canards add extra control actuators to the flight control system, i.e. added failure points. The flight control system on the F-22 can move each control surface independently. Blending each surface to control flight path makes canards unnecessary.
@@jimandnena4Only because the US doesnt use it does not mean its bad. Its a design choice after all and as said above, the Eurofighter, Rafale and Gripen use canards and they are all highly advanced fighters. The Eurofighter even had steath as a secodnary requirement.
@@jimandnena4 why didn’t the US use canards in their 4th gen jets? They had p,entry of prototypes in the 60s and 70s, yet they chose not o use them. There was a reason, and stealth was not it, not during that time.
It actually makes a simpler system, as you don’t have a rear all moving tail. Most modern jets can move flight surfaces independently, don’t think it’s some proprietary American technology.
Canards are not unnecessary, it’s all about optimizing for your particular mission. The fact is that canards improve high Mach performance over rear tails.
Canards are necessary if the aircraft is a delta wing design. The Typhoon- F-22 Red Flag event reviewed by Alex a year ago required the Raptor to fly with external fuel tanks to give the stripped down Typhoon an even chance at winning. The event was a dog and pony show, not a real contest.
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs.
Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
This would be sick. Liking so he sees it
Alex please, give TexasRanger24 what he wants. I'm sick of seeing his comments regarding this matter.
😂 ^agreed
Here's an idea for you. Why don't you do the research, make some informative video segments, start your own RUclips channel, and present the information to everyone. This way, you'll have the information and the satisfaction of knowing it at an even deeper level.
ask task & purpose. he does army stuff often.
Always thoughtful, well researched and extremely informative. Thank you for continuing to offer such important and pertinent military information.
Have a fantastic week, my friend. 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸👍🏻
I have always liked tour content, but this is the best explanation I have seen. Well done.
Thank you for bringing up Quiet Bird.
Durring the flight testing of the YB-49, it was noticed that when the aircraft turned head on to the RADAR source, it would almost disap[ear from the scope. this was 1949. The SR-71 was so fast that it would get pcked up once on the scope, and then be gone on the next sweep.
Great video and interesting points!
the warranty expires in the middle of the first mission
More like before first deployment lol
Could you imagine if you had to have jet insurance? 😂😂
F-35... Opsrey... Seahawks...🙄
This is a repost, but even at age 69, I get chills down my spine when Alex shows an SR 71:
1969- As a kid with a pilot father stationed at (then) Blytheville AFB,our base housing backed up to the primary landing strip. As a kid of 13 (1969) I was mowing the lawn at dusk. I heard a huge jet engine sound, unlike my dad’s usual 8 engine B 52s, & looked up to see this AMAZING long, black aircraft landing that looked like something from a sci-fi movie. I ran inside to get my dad & show him. His jaw dropped, too. He had heard about the SR 71, but had, of course, never even seen an illustration! I almost peed my pants! It was only about 400 yards away when it taxied to a hangar. I didn’t know how (or if I even could) to describe the experience to my fellow USAF dependent friends. My goal instantly became: attend the UASF Academy & fly that damn black airplane! Alas, my vision issues precluded admission to the Academy, but I did attend the US Naval Academy & spent 30 yrs there as a physician. That said, I would give it all up to have flown that blackbird….
In the late 70's I dated a girl whose stepfather flew 120+ combat missions over North Vietnam in F-105 Thunderchiefs, including some of the early Iron Hand/Wild Weasel missions. Then he transitioned to the SR-71 and flew it out of Okinawa and Beale until he retired. I was at the ranch one day looking at his pictures in the den and I saw a small 'Mach 3' pin and next to it a small '300 Hour' pin. I knew that Air Force pilots have 1000's of hours so I asked him what was the big deal with 300 hours in the SR-71? He said, in that hot pilot drawl "Well, when you're going that fast it don't take all that much time to get, well, anywhere."
The CIA tried painting the U-2 with radar absorbing paint, but it added enough weight to keep it from achieving altitude.and generally affected the handling.
They added material to the aeras they knew reflected radar well with what was called by the workers as "wall paper." Predecessor to the same stuff slapped on the outside of the f-117. Weight was a big deal when you condsider every pound over a certain altitude costed you in how high you can fly in the U2. The paint and "wall paper" added to much weight and did not work as they thought it would.
A coat of VantaBlack would have more effect.
@@jamesogden7756it’s not the color that makes it low observable, bud.
Where did you read that?
@@jlehmVantablack isn’t a paint color. It is however light dispersing nano fibers.
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I love this stuff Alex. Keep up the great work!
Another Top notch Episode Keep on keeping on 💪🏼
Nah... Alex spew State Dept anti-Chinese propaganda.
Tofu dreg weapons. Will perform as one would expect from tofu dreg weapons.
Meanwhile, "superior Chinese infrastructure" is flooding and cities are SINKING. Communism takes too many shortcuts. 😂
China is what China does. Making cheap, copied, second rate garbage products.
Do you know what tofu is? It's Chinese, not your white-skinned tofu
Great Video. Thanks 😊
Engines....engines....engines! The Chinese can't even get their fighter jet engines nailed down, let alone something as difficult as stealth bomber propultion.
They already have .
We thank you Alex🇺🇸
Ooh, China. A "stealth" bomber. Welcome to the 1980's.
Gotta start somewhere
LoL... they're not Hegemonic like Uncle Sam .
Good job as always !
hi Alex another awesome video hope you're healing well and get well soon! :)
the person in charge is more of a concern than some weapon platforms. Especially when the person in charge has actual plans to use those weapons in near future.
True. Intent is more interesting than capability.
Something European security services learned after their botched pre war analysis of Russia’s large scale invasion of Ukraine
Love this honest content.
Dishonest actually .
Alex spewing State Dept anti-Chinese propagandas .
Leaving a comment to assist in the advancement of this channel's exposure. Great job, as always Alex.
When your stealth bomber has the radar cross section of a 747, your stealth bomber is in fact not stealth.
Don't discount them just because they came second.
Complacency is the enemy of progress.
If we assume their technology is worse than ours and we assume that ours will always be better, eventually they'll overtake us.
Exactly, it may take longer but they will get it. Which is why the Pentagon has said it has to take claims of the Chinese and Russians at sorta face value. Yes it knows it probably more propaganda than reality. But it has to try to make sure US overmatch remains uncontested even if China and Russia's claims are true, which usually they are not. Because by doing that, it scares China and Russia from attempting anything because they do know for sure that the US tends mean what it says about its capabilities.
I agree fully, it makes me worried whenever I see people discrediting anything they do, we need to be aware that they *are* a formidable force and we must be aware of that. lucky the intelligence community in the government seems to agree, I just wish the public would understand as well
@@TK199999 America is not going to stop developing high tech for the air. Its how we win wars. I bet we already have a fleet of anti gravity crafts out there somewhere unless what I saw was alien. Navy choosing their next 6th gen fighter jet later this year too.
Better to overestimate and overprepare than underestimate and get absolutely destroyed
Also, I don’t know why YT erased my comment where I said the same thing?
Looking at the f15, I dont think the US military takes enemy claims as anything less than a real threat.
The US has been watching this program and has some expectations whether it exceeds their estimates or not.
Until China has friendly airbases around the world to provide mid air refueling to project power around the world, China remains a regional military power.
Increasing their air attack range to be like Australia round trip puts more American air bases into immediate threat should the Taiwan war break out.
What about the British Mosquito as an early unobservable aircraft? Maybe it wasn’t designed that way but it was used that way.
Low observability against early radar? Certainly. Actual intentionally designed low observability? Not really. It was designed to be fast, and the relative low observability was a lovely benefit
Jack Northrup's flying wing bomber is actually considered the first true low radar cross section aircraft (not stealth), again by accident. But yes the British Mosquito also had low radar cross section properties due to its wooden construction. But that may have had as much to do with German radar limitations than truly lower RCS of the Mosquito. Besides its the UK and the US never gives the UK credit for anything. It part of deal Churchill made with the US to get the US into war against Germany.
@@TK199999The United States gets the credit for airplanes. Churchill made that deal? Lmao
You nailed it again Alex! Kudos
ALF did voice over for another awesome military tech video!? Awesome! Haha great channel, thanks !
Just gotta be careful about those stealth balloons 🎈
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Tough part is if the CO is compromised, you get what happened.
Just because you can copy the Mona Lisa, that don't make you da Vinci.
Stupidity galore .
H-20 assumed design doesn't looked like the Yank's Fat Bat .
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Learn how to write. Glass houses.
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You blind ?
You compare the H-20 assumed design to the Fat Bats .
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 I'm blind and you're illiterate. Besides, I don't need eyes to know that the CCP steals all their technology from Russia and the west.
Excellent points you have raised, Alex! Keep up the good work!
Now when you put it in those perspectives of "You need friendly runways to land on" and airspace to operate in, that brings it all into perspective, not to even mention the experience the U.S. has using them in actual combat. Thanks Alex for another eye opening and informative episode of Sandboxx News. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
It would be a mistake to underestimate the Chinese. The years it took for the US to "get here" are lessons the chinese can learn from in a much shorter timeframe not to mention their human intelligence sources which likely go far beyond what we know about. They are also great imitators and are paying attention close to the Ukraine war.
@@nosteponsnek7036 Not to mention the traitors selling the tech to help them catch up.
Better to overestimate and overprepare than underestimate and get destroyed. Even if China isn't as strong as they want you to think, I don't doubt that they will be an incredibly dangerous opponent. I really hope that people keep that in mind
Not going to happen. American analysts probably can guess the state of Chinese flying wing and stealth technology by the products they've produced and probably have had a look inside exported weapons. I don't know if a single weapon or aircraft including drones that are anywhere close to American weapons they're trying to copy. And that's only the obvious, publicly available information. I assume American Intelligence has a better view than what the public knows
China builds junk
When I was in college, it was always way easier to come up with solutions using 1st principles because I knew them. If I got the intermediate equations from somewhere else, it was much more difficult to build upon them without a solid grounding in how they came about. The PRC is going through that same process now.
H-20
Is that code for H2O.
Maybe it's stealthy cuz it's made of ice... It decreases its radar cross section by melting.
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真不错，美国的快乐教育果然出类拔萃🤟
Alex, you knitted together the journey of the Stealth program and all the iterations and influencers of the technology and the speed bumps along the way and did it clearly and easy to follow like a good book from start to present day! It is such a great story you write for us lay people to understand the process and how other countries try to imitate what has been done! That is why I love how you stitch together all the technology to make it easier to understand. Thank you for your hard work.
Your channel and videos are legit. Thanks for the tremendous effort and research you must have to do to present such a comprehensive video.
Even if it's outright inferior to the B21 or even the B2, it still represents a brand new and threatening Chinese capability that will need to be accounted and prepared for. Same goes for the J20. Even mediocre (and even assuming this is dangerous) 5th gen aircraft are such a greater threat than 4th gen that they threaten to completely change the game. Honestly the biggest benefit of the US / the West in being ahead of China is that they can use their own 5th gen fleets as adversaries to train against and prepare. I hope that the H20 not being "a concern" is more down to this fact than a flippant disregard of the potential threat it might represent.
We should always overestimate their capability and design something completely overpowered to fight it
That's how the F-15 came about, no?
J-35
Yes, they even made a stealth practice target drone 5GAT that can emulate either J-20 or Su-57.
Yeah I am suprisred how dismissive Alex, and especially the Admiral. First time I heard a general be so blunt. Usually they make the enemy seem like the enemy is superior to try to get more funding.
Here he is just like, "They are truly stealth as they don't even show up on our threat radar. Flocks of birds around the runway will cause more damage. The losere."
Anyway I prefer us not to underestimate our enemies. China was hiring ex pilots, and stealing any information they can get.
Yet most importantly they have their hands on super computers along with AI. I imagine it is a lot easier to make iterations with them.
It doesn't have to be better than ours to be dangerous. Just good enough, and who knows how fast China will be able to make a fleet.
No, China is no way near American's weapon capability. Please share this channel to let more americans know that China doesn't, and can't, pose any national security threat to the US.
As Stalin said, quantity is a quality all its own. China makes 500 of those semi-stealth bombers, it's a concern.
Population 1920
Russia 135 Million
USA 106 Million
Population 2020
Russia 144 Million
USA 330 million
People go where they're treated best. And have children when their future is not all doom and gloom.
Side note: Russian soldiers are fielding Mosin Negants in battle circa 2024. Because there was a large stockpile of them in storage.
except the Ukraine war has proved that notion to be wrong. Even if China were to make that many there's no way they could field even a decent fraction of that due to the severe lack of skilled pilots.
Only for certain scenarios. That's why war doctrine is important to maximize your advantages and avoid exposing weaknesses.
He also sent millions into the meat grinder under equipped and under trained with reckless abandon so I don't think that doctrine should be used as a point here.
Except China is late in the game. B-21 is in production and their are already 5 of them. While there are 4 to 5 times F-35 than J-20 with half of that in US arsenal. Not to mention their is still the F-22s and B-2s. So US has both quality and quantity.
Love your show! It's so informative. Speaking of which, I was wondering if you knew anything about the Lockheed Martin Cormorant? Is it still in development or was it scrapped in favor of something else? Would truly appreciate the feed back. keep up the great work.
Interesting perspective, thanks!
Very dumb question, does the British WW 2 aircraft mosquito count a stealth. Technically the radar of the time couldn't detect that aircraft.
The wooden frame would not get detected, but the engine sure would.
Wood is not inherently stealth. I doubt any claim that the mossie was undetectable by radar in the 1940s. It had two huge metal propellers.
Watched a video by the fat electrician about the mosquito. He explained that the Germans couldn't detect it. Admittedly, I'm no expert so I may deserve a good roast but check out the video and tell me what you think
@@jmckittrick1 Since the Germans did not have RADAR, their detection method must have been visual or perhaps when the bomb hit the ground...
I bet Planes such as The YF-118G, Tacit Blue, and X-36 are still more stealthy than The J-20 especially if they were applied with modern RAM
Tacit Blue was designed to test an undetectable radar.
With ceramic RAM, it is possible that a Tomcat would be more stealthy than something with canards and a poorly applied RAM coating.
@@everettputerbaugh3996 lol good one, The ST-22 ;) Yo I almost forgot about The F-15SE Silent Eagle! Would obliterate SU-57 and J-20!👍
@@everettputerbaugh3996Yeah no. Shaping is like 80% of stealth.
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Nonsense.
J-20 got ASEA and next Gen AAMs .
Alex, as always, MOST EXCELLENT! Thank You! Oohraah!!! 🤠
An excellent video, lots of info. Thanks
Newzealand has a stealth fighter and bomber program as well, in far in advance of the US ,, in fact go to any of our air bases and look ,, so so good its like there not even there , and pilots and crews are so good at keeping the secreate if you mention it , they say your crazy and ignore any more questions 😊
This reminds me that my univerity was undefeated in football for it's entire 50 year history.
@@granatmof I all so have a stealth bank account all working four years it remains under cover of the zero
Is it full of water? Would be good for fighting fires I suppose, those fires would never know what hit 'em!
Outstanding yet again. Well done and take care of the eye
I was just watching your show about the H2O it's very excellent I appreciate that very very good I don't know how you get all this stuff but keep it up.
While the HO-229 was not designed with Stealth in mind, the flying wing design did in fact have a much lower RCS than typical fighters of the day. It would have cut reaction times for the RAF in half.
Nah. It has not one but TWO forward facing, exposed axial-flow compressor fans.
It probably has a RCS closer to a 737MAX than a Cessna.
@@jj4791 You would be incorrect, when tested against radars of the time the HO-229 had a much smaller RCS than the BF-109 for example.
China is behind but their espionage seems to be top notch and you just can never be complacent with the Chinese. The second you think you are better than them they show you they have other strengths. We learned this lesson in Korea and it’s influenced pretty much every decision we have made regarding China since then.
Chinas primary espionage channel is literally TikTok and the US power grids 1990s computer systems which have little to no internet security or protection.
You never know what the effect of theft is. I suspect the much publicized theft of stealth aircraft technology may have netted the Chinese very little usable info.
This was when the F-35 program was a mess and many years before the program had to be practically burned to the ground and rebuilt around 2017 replacing all the avionics, virtual perspective, modular architecture, improved stealth materials and numerous other features. The joke really was on the Chinese stealing stuff that didn't work. Maybe they got something out of it but no one is saying exactly and authoritatively what China stole that is showing up in their aircraft.
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Because they didn't steal any info and data on the F-22 and F-35 .
This is the reason their J-20 doesn't looked like the Yankee counterparts .
Very well thought out, presented and detailed. You basically have to apply simple a logic statement:- If then therefore. With range and fuel being just one aspect the simple logistics creates a major hurdle.
Cheers Alex
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Thank You Alex for the Video❤🙏🇺🇸
The US is working on v2 while PRC is still in v.8 beta basically.
Try v3
PRC already developing 6 Gen stealth aircrafts .
Strange it’s name is H2O… literally water… take it how you will.
CCP tried to copy HO 229 name and they messed up the translation and they ended up with H20 instead.
"Be like water" ... Bruce Lee 🀄
Extremely. Well. Done.
You the Man! Thanks for so much content!