800$ Tennis Lesson with Rick Macci, was it worth it?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @Miloykus
    @Miloykus 2 месяца назад +15

    Few comments about the "rip off price". Maybe it is a rip off, but if you benefit from it, then it's worth it. If I'm a coach living from tennis and $2000 change my serve biomechanics as well as improve my forehand for a lifetime, I would consider it worthwhile.
    Maybe on a level I'm at (4-4.5) wouldn't make difference if I take $80 lesson or $800, but on a higher level might does.
    When I was taking jazz guutar lessons in Europe 15yrs ago, I was paying 20eur/hr a great jazz guitarist who graduated in Amsterdam. At the same time, he was paying his instructor 80eur/hr. When I was shocked with that price difference, he would tell me that, on the level I was at that time, I wouldn't benefit from 80eur lessons any more than I do for 20eur.
    Rick Macci is a coach for coaches, not for club level players, recreationals and USTA. Or maybe just a "rip off".
    Great video, I hope you get those $2k back from youtube. I just liked and subscribed. I definitely learned from it.

  • @tabaccount9622
    @tabaccount9622 Год назад +5

    Thank you very much for sharing your lesson with Mr. Macci. Especially the serve tip is really gold.

    • @hqs9585
      @hqs9585 2 месяца назад

      that tip is giving daily to 100's of students for $1 . That tip was obvious, place force /pressure on your back foot, how about upper body rotation, I was not impressed with that serve or that forehand. Sophomoric instructions. Macci belongs to the old school, 30+ years ago. irrelevant today.

  • @eugenos
    @eugenos Год назад +3

    Thanks for sharing your insights from the $2k lesson!

  • @a2casius
    @a2casius 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm a huge Rick Macci fan and it looks like he gave really good and insightful advice. Hope you can put them to good use

  • @stratuspei9405
    @stratuspei9405 2 месяца назад +9

    For $1600 I would buy a nice brand new ball machine. Thanks for sharing the tips Macci gave.

    • @bmanbusee3812
      @bmanbusee3812 2 месяца назад +1

      A ball machine isn’t going to change your stroke mechanics mate..😅

    • @buyastyle
      @buyastyle 2 месяца назад +2

      @@bmanbusee3812 ball machine, a camera and thousands of balls is way better than getting ripped by a "pro"

    • @bmanbusee3812
      @bmanbusee3812 2 месяца назад

      @@buyastyle how is it getting ripped off if you’re gaining something? If he didn’t I see your point

    • @KingCast65
      @KingCast65 2 месяца назад

      Thing is you may need both. I know I do on my FH these days it has become a giant back-foot slap and I need to spend a couple months on that alone now that I'm back to playing after hip surgery. ruclips.net/video/duD__IVosrU/видео.html

    • @fsupark
      @fsupark 2 месяца назад

      @@buyastyle A few tennis lessons are far better than a ball machine if you had to pick one or the other. I've seen plenty of 1-2yr tennis players with 1-2 private lessons (or half a dozen group lessons) and a ball machine. They typically have terrible form and play far worse than players with 6 months of goal oriented guided training and conditioning. It's probably better to hire an upper aged junior or a college player to be your hitting partner or feed you certain balls on a weekly basis for half a year than investing in a ball machine that will be very limited, will take time out of your sessions (setup, adjustments, pack up). But if money is no issue for you, I don't see any issue with spending $20k/year on lessons while also having hitting partners. You likely won't need a machine at that level since you'd probably have a membership at an upper-scale tennis club that loans or rents out full-sized ball machines anyway.

  • @paulwongg8299
    @paulwongg8299 Год назад +29

    I wonder if Rick Macci has a permanent smile on his face ? ... Ripping people off like that.

    • @topspin1715
      @topspin1715 2 месяца назад +2

      Haha I laughed so hard at your comment. Thanks for making me laugh.

    • @TheSportsPROgram
      @TheSportsPROgram 2 месяца назад +1

      Imagine the smile in Patrick M's face ...he charges $7500 per hour .......

    • @Shaun949
      @Shaun949 2 месяца назад +3

      It's not going to be a rip off for everyone. People have different value in different things. There are plenty of less prestigious cheaper coaches out there.

    • @tesladiesel2420
      @tesladiesel2420 2 месяца назад +2

      It really depends how you look at it. We took about 3 lessons from him (before the movie release he “only” charged 600) and ultimately moved her to FL. My kid works out of this academy as well as another one (har tru court) and the value for us knowing and working w/ RM is - connections, visibility, marketing etc. ppl tend to focus only on the classes itself. For me/us that’s just 5% - if that….

    • @rogergarland3746
      @rogergarland3746 2 месяца назад

      I agree.

  • @thomasc4777
    @thomasc4777 Год назад +3

    Obviously you're pleased with the lesson, and that's what's most important. So, don't second guess it for any reason. As far as the fee, it's done and over with. That's another lesson learned and another life experience. It would be completely inappropriate for me to judge how you choose to spend your money. What's clear is you enjoy the game and you're dedicated to self improvement. Congratulations on taking the initiative to step outside of You Tube and seek skill improvement. I think you have much to be proud of. Thank you for sharing your experience. That tells me a lot about your character. Best wishes for continued success.

  • @kingarthurusatenniscoach1415
    @kingarthurusatenniscoach1415 2 месяца назад +2

    I teach the Vic Braden, on my youtube, I have downloaded Vic. I never met him. It works for many people. I also like the Welby Van Horn balance. Forget the winning and learn technique Tough to surrender ones EGO... It all depends what the student wants. I have consulted with wimbledon doubles world class player and I let the student decide.. That coaching is about partnerships

  • @innocentbystander6
    @innocentbystander6 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. I think that the lesson was worth it because in a relatively short time you learned great corrections that pay lifetime dividends.

  • @PerformancePlusTennis
    @PerformancePlusTennis Год назад +7

    If you come to Southern California, I will work with you for a lot less, and give you a lot more! Best, John

    • @pintadotennistraining1513
      @pintadotennistraining1513  Год назад +3

      Will sure keep this in mind

    • @PerformancePlusTennis
      @PerformancePlusTennis Год назад

      @@pintadotennistraining1513 Great! Perhaps we will meet some day! Best, John

    • @bijano7320
      @bijano7320 2 месяца назад +1

      @PerformancePlusTennis do you offer in-person lessons?

    • @PerformancePlusTennis
      @PerformancePlusTennis 2 месяца назад

      @@bijano7320 Yes, I do. In Newport Beach, CA

    • @bmanbusee3812
      @bmanbusee3812 2 месяца назад

      @@PerformancePlusTennishey John. Hope all is well. When you’re going to upload new vids?

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r 2 месяца назад

    Macci is the best and the funniest coach alive. Thank you for posting. I subbed and will follow your pother videos. ou had an unforgettable day on his court,!

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 2 месяца назад +4

    I'm in (tech) business, where the value/cost question is as important as it is difficult. Cost is always the easier thing to measure (though not always trivial). Value is the hard part. Let's give it a try here.
    1. The value of the techniques shown - as some have mentioned in the comments, you probably get this technique elsewhere for much less cost
    2. The authority Rick Macci brings - when Macci shows you a technique, you are more likely to accept it than from an anonymous coach or youtuber
    3. The positive cost effect - you are more likely to spend hours training on the newly acquired technique, because you paid so much. When spending 10 hours with that advice, the cost of the advice goes down to 80 $/h. Any tip received for free would not motivate you as much: regardless how many hours you spend, the cost remains 0$/h.
    4. The brand effect - you probably feel more motivated to continue your journey, thanks to the experience of meeting Macci, regardless of the advice he gave you
    5. The content creation value - you can make a video off this experience, which is going to give you some YT revenue, or at least continued YT presence/relevance.
    I wrote the above without checking your channel. After doing so, we can state that this video indeed has been the most popular on your channel, on par with one other, and a factor 2-10 higher than other videos. Also, you seem to have stopped 7 months ago, so (4) has materialized only for 1,5 years.
    Overall, I think doing this as a tuber was a good idea and a fair bet. As an amateur tennis player, I would take my lessons for lower cost at similar value, also because continuous coaching is better for discipline and motivation than a one off. As an aspiring pro, he may be worth it.

    • @almacnamara2000
      @almacnamara2000 2 месяца назад +1

      That was a beautifully written piece. I get your thought process

  • @musarra195
    @musarra195 3 месяца назад +5

    Great tips. Thank you very much for sharing

  • @thomasyoung1588
    @thomasyoung1588 2 месяца назад +3

    Has anyone ever seen Macci hit a tennis ball? I never have. Not saying he cant coach but i have a feeling hes about like Bollitieri and probably low A level or even B.

  • @ad-rock603
    @ad-rock603 Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot for sharing, I found your video really helpful! New sub here, looking forward to learning more!

  • @1blindcommissioner
    @1blindcommissioner 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing the learnings from your investment !! The back leg drill will be very helpful to me as I like you tend to favor the front leg way too much !

  • @sendiony
    @sendiony 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank u for sharing. And sure its very expensive. Crazy.

  • @robertl.6919
    @robertl.6919 Год назад +11

    Well…. My $80 an hour Level 2 Tennis Pro coach showed me EXACTLY the same moves. The « tap the dog » arm and racket position like Federer’s is already considered last generation. Now advanced players are more like Sinner or other younger players with very controlled and powerful forehands. Glad I have saved $1800 😊

    • @pintadotennistraining1513
      @pintadotennistraining1513  Год назад +1

      Smart finance decisions 💪🏽

    • @lartisan6274
      @lartisan6274 Год назад

      @robertl.6919 Sinner and young players are not the same level than " Legend " cant compare players with Legend. ah Sinner has " pat the dog " technic

    • @robertl.6919
      @robertl.6919 Год назад

      @@lartisan6274 Not the same level ? You mean young players like Alcatraz or Medvedev are not the same level as « Legends » ?
      Legends like Laver, Borg, Lendel, McEnroe, Becker, Sampras, have all been surpassed in speed, power and precision by the following generation.
      And new techniques came with each new generation to.

    • @lartisan6274
      @lartisan6274 Год назад

      @@robertl.6919 legend like Nadal, Federer, Dojko. Medvedev, Sinner, zVerev, Tsitsi etc they need to wait retired ( federer) or injurie ( Nadal, sometimes Djoko) for win. The speed is about the racket technology, even with him big power Rublev can't win infront of Djoko. New Techniques ? Biomecanic etc Each player have own Technic. Who has the Forehand of Nadal, why no one use it ? or Kyrgios ? Del potro, in final its just a forehand.

    • @robertl.6919
      @robertl.6919 Год назад

      @@lartisan6274 Every subsequent « Legend » had to wait till the previous one’s performance started to decline. And the technology argument is the same for each generation. As for Nadal’s forehand, it’s quite classic, from preparation to the wrist lag to straight arm stroke till contact. The only difference is AFTER contact when he does his banana thing. Same as Federer. Djoko has a different bent arm stroke close body contact forehand.
      History repeats itself.

  • @sapientbudgie5652
    @sapientbudgie5652 2 месяца назад

    Very kind of you to post that. Strokes are looking good.

  • @giuseppetripodi2299
    @giuseppetripodi2299 2 месяца назад

    Hi there, I believe they were 2 great tennis coaches ,Nick bollettieri ( rip) and Rick Macci. Great information, yes maeby little cheaper. Well done

  • @jasondratman5584
    @jasondratman5584 2 месяца назад

    I love this .. thanks great job .. great lesson .. awesome video👍🎾🔥

  • @nicolasX2602
    @nicolasX2602 Год назад

    nice video man!!! really helpful. I will try your tips tomorrow

  • @attybong
    @attybong Год назад +2

    if macci says loading on the front foot is wrong, is he then saying that doing pin-point stance on the serve, which necessarily needs loading on the front foot, is entirely wrong?

  • @claudefilion7055
    @claudefilion7055 2 месяца назад

    Excellent advice. Excellent video.

  • @michaelhenderson2657
    @michaelhenderson2657 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for sharing...this helped me too...

  • @Shaunsweeney-Kubach71
    @Shaunsweeney-Kubach71 2 месяца назад +1

    You got your moneys worth my dude! I am wonder how much Aaron Krickstein charges for lessons?

  • @gustavonarez
    @gustavonarez Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @satjiwan
    @satjiwan 2 месяца назад

    I enjoyed Your last word “peace!”. Sound a bit like LongIslandAudit.

  • @claudiozanella256
    @claudiozanella256 Месяц назад

    Definitely yes (for Macci).

  • @brenthargreaves7085
    @brenthargreaves7085 Год назад +1

    I had a coach who's son was in a wimbledon singles final he played with a blue pro kennex racket , I found out yesterday babalot bought that mold and started making pure drives.People who actually know stuff are different they often see things more quickly in more detail and far more profoundly! Its quite a lot of money but how else do you get the information? In 30 years you may have a moment along the lines of oh I get what he was saying now!

    • @pintadotennistraining1513
      @pintadotennistraining1513  Год назад

      Yes perhaps but I also had other coaches who know just as much if not more for less, the problem is you really have to look 👍🎾

    • @capricornmagic63
      @capricornmagic63 2 месяца назад

      @@pintadotennistraining1513 But what prompted you to spend so much money? Are you one of those who thinks that if it cost more it must be better? It seems to me you were paying for the name only

  • @TheSportsPROgram
    @TheSportsPROgram 2 месяца назад +7

    So those are tips that most competent Pros can give and for 2 K you could have gotten 20 lessons at $100 per hour and you could have gotten a lot more for your money. No one can give out too much information in 2 1/2 hours, and it is also hard to absorb too much information in 2 1/2 hours. The thing about these "famous" coaches is that they can make an impact if they are working with you for a while, but not for a couple of hours. It gets worse, Patrick M (serena's x-coach) charges $7500 per hour....LOL All the information these "famous" coaches have is already out there. They key for a great coach is how they structure the information in a format that has progressions to constantly perfect mechanics, movement, strategy, etc. But having said all that ....hope you improved and keep improving your game.

    • @rogergarland3746
      @rogergarland3746 2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed.Any competent coach can show you these things for a normal price.

  • @thetennisjournal
    @thetennisjournal 2 месяца назад +2

    Interesting i watched a lesson ric massi did with two older ladies and i just couldn’t believe they would pay for that. Not saying his advice was bad but it didn’t seem like anything groundbreaking but the students he coached couldn’t really play well.

  • @Keepontruckin1904
    @Keepontruckin1904 2 месяца назад

    I’m here for the comments. Enjoyed your video though. Forehand looks great. As for Macci he charges 800 because people will pay it. Anyway good luck with your tennis and keep up the good videos

  • @manitsony6703
    @manitsony6703 2 месяца назад

    thanks. good info.

  • @susansticazsky9787
    @susansticazsky9787 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @mikechan231
    @mikechan231 2 месяца назад

    Wow, nice lesson! Expensive though. But he seems to know what he’s looking for.

  • @JeffLewistennis
    @JeffLewistennis 2 месяца назад +2

    For $2000 I'd fly out to you, film a match, chart it, film all your strokes and produce a take home narrated technical and tactical analysis...and cook you dinner

  • @paulwongg8299
    @paulwongg8299 Год назад

    You should have way more than one forehand swing. Hit flat through the ball. Topspin forehand like Nadal finish . You can find all that stuff for free. Read some current stuff . But if you have money to waste go take more lessons. The Peter Burwash guys are good.

  • @gravitytennis
    @gravitytennis Год назад

    Did you videotape the lesson? It would be great to see some clips!

  • @zenpanda100
    @zenpanda100 Год назад +2

    Bro! Expensive!!

  • @Monsterenergy791
    @Monsterenergy791 Год назад +1

    Another guy on youtube had a lesson with him but “only” $500/hour he said. He video taped it as well

  • @davidhale8034
    @davidhale8034 Год назад

    Many thanks for sharing this

  • @snezhkaus
    @snezhkaus 2 месяца назад

    I thought it was a good investment for you. One year late what are your thoughts? Rick can pick up and make small twitches specifically for your needs. Only a small amount of coaches can do it.

  • @KingCast65
    @KingCast65 2 месяца назад

    To the poster who says they would rather a ball machine: Thing is you may need both. I know I do on my FH these days it has become a giant back-foot slap and I need to spend a couple months on that alone now that I'm back to playing after hip surgery. Thanks to this fellow for sharing his experience. ruclips.net/video/duD__IVosrU/видео.html

  • @bmanbusee3812
    @bmanbusee3812 2 месяца назад +2

    To all that’s saying well I could have told you that, or taught you that for much less need to realize that you’re not macci. The man has a way of progressions and teaching that many “pros” don’t. So let the man enjoy his money well spent and something to share with others down the road..

  • @dougmassinger4649
    @dougmassinger4649 2 месяца назад

    Your FH take back is at 6 o’clock. I think you said it should be to 5

    • @dougmassinger4649
      @dougmassinger4649 2 месяца назад

      I should have waited til the end before commenting. Rick said the same thing.

  • @cavermendes
    @cavermendes Месяц назад

    Bro got finessed 😂

  • @jflow5601
    @jflow5601 2 месяца назад +1

    I've listened to Rick Macci online, and I would not pay $800 for a tennis lesson. Maybe $200

  • @fabz1509
    @fabz1509 2 месяца назад

    It all depends on your own expectations & money got nothing to do with it. Spend it on what you love & keep on improving. The ridiculous arguments that you could've bought a ball machine for that price or 6 racquets instead is missing the point. Thanks very much for sharing.

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb 2 месяца назад +1

    You can find pros doing it differently, coaches trying to put a one size fits all all for everytis complete lunacy they are talking to just talk

  • @Welcomelatet
    @Welcomelatet Год назад +3

    You could learn that on you tube for free

    • @emjay2045
      @emjay2045 Год назад

      Yup. If you don’t have money to burn

  • @attybong
    @attybong Год назад +4

    you learned it from macci for 800 usd , i learned from you for free .. lucky me !!

  • @guidodelgiudice5
    @guidodelgiudice5 2 месяца назад

    If you can afford it, it's worthy.

  • @howardpollack6485
    @howardpollack6485 2 месяца назад

    Rick is worth every $ spent with him. I see him teach almost every w/e while officiating UTR tennis events. If you're serious about your tennis at any level he is the best coach I've ever watched. Having said that only spending two hours is not what he is about. It's a process that takes 100's of hours to perfect his method of technique and how to win. Rome wasn't built in a day.

  • @HonkyMonky
    @HonkyMonky Год назад

    thanks for sharing ;)

  • @RamsBereit
    @RamsBereit 2 месяца назад +1

    I will buy a tennis ball machine and three years' worth of a tennis club membership for that 😂

    • @TheDogsSide
      @TheDogsSide 2 месяца назад

      And probably the same level of player you were at the beginning 😂. Read studies on ball machines and skill acquisitions. You are wasting time.

  • @SeanT649
    @SeanT649 2 месяца назад +2

    Unless the lesson was over a full weekend this was daylight robbery .

  • @johnmacmillan627
    @johnmacmillan627 2 месяца назад

    That expense is nuts!!

  • @hqs9585
    @hqs9585 2 месяца назад +1

    No maybes, it is a' rip off price.' Many youtube coaches are out of line in this department: too expensive, but again they do take advantage of victims like the one in this video. Victims usually low level ranking,

  • @paulnewman7467
    @paulnewman7467 2 месяца назад

    Basic fundamental teaching.......Scary, but if people are crazy enough to pay that for limited basic teaching because of a name, who I am to question it.

  • @capricornmagic63
    @capricornmagic63 2 месяца назад +1

    Bro you must have more money than sense.

  • @lszujo
    @lszujo 2 месяца назад

    probably not..I would pay 800.00$ /hour to Federer to teach me how to hit a forehand...that's about it

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber Год назад +5

    I wouldn't even pay $800 from roger fderer

    • @zenpanda100
      @zenpanda100 Год назад

      Federer out here catching strays 😂😂😂😂

    • @pintadotennistraining1513
      @pintadotennistraining1513  Год назад

      I would pay half my life for roger( kidding) but I may pay a bit for that one

  • @bmanbusee3812
    @bmanbusee3812 2 месяца назад

    Better than 5k with Patrick..😅

  • @TimTheMusicMan
    @TimTheMusicMan 2 месяца назад +1

    Totally nuts. If you need a lesson in tennis something is wrong. This is what coaches tell everyone today: Stand on the baseline and never move from there and use an inferior women’s tennis 2HBH. I could have given this poor guy a lesson for free in 10 minutes. He was ripped off. How could he pay for this. It’s like paying to learn how to jog.

  • @sportscastercanada
    @sportscastercanada 2 месяца назад

    I can offer a brand new over grip for $1000 and show you how to install it for $1000.

  • @tennisace40
    @tennisace40 Месяц назад

    Short answer. No.

  • @zwatwashdc
    @zwatwashdc 2 месяца назад

    With Bidenomics it’s probably 4000 now. So 2000 was a deal 😂😂

  • @foxyonthrottle690
    @foxyonthrottle690 2 месяца назад +3

    :):):) thats overpriced for that information , every decent trainer would tell you this for 75 dollar an hour :):):) thats a rip off

  • @glenberberet8418
    @glenberberet8418 2 месяца назад +1

    What a ripoff

  • @samburrell3288
    @samburrell3288 2 месяца назад +2

    Rick Macci is such a grifter and chancer. He is so lucky he is in America, right place, right time, that's all. Nothing special at all. They're so many better coaches than him that are cheaper or coaches around the same as him that are far cheaper. Just a lot of American bullshit but people buy it so...

    • @TheSportsPROgram
      @TheSportsPROgram 2 месяца назад +1

      Unless a coach can work with a player for a decent amount of time, it is not going to make much difference. So charging that much money for 1 hour is definitely not worth it. But it has nothing to do with "America" ....because it gets worse in France. Patrick M charges $7500 per hour which is beyond ridiculous.

  • @sharkme3561
    @sharkme3561 2 месяца назад

    Too much money. I teach the same thing but don't explain as well as Rick or charge as much. I have not met anyone who has more experience or tennis skills than me except maybe Federer. The difference is that Federer didn't know how to operate knee movement and blew his our for life and mine is still going strong because of understanding correct movement which is my specialty.