Thermal paste patterns: X vs. Dot
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I paid for the whole tube, I'm gonna use the *whole* tube
Right we ain’t Linus tech tips building a new pc every day
Just keept some left on it in case if your thermal paste gets dried and u can replace again without suffering buying another thermal paste.
@@thatindianguy3009 You literally get worse cooling using too much lol...hackjob
@@thatindianguy3009 agree man.
i just put what I think is enough and it never had been an issue over putting
Dude , I dont know if this is satire but the ammount difference between the x and the dot is stupidly high , the x has a fuck ton more than the dot that's what is causing the difference.
Yeah its making me lose braincells
What's the good amount of paste for dot? I need to change mine soon and I'm looking for some inspiration
@@sweet7972 twice what he used
@@sweet7972 Like most channels say "A pea size glob of thermal paste" should be enough , I has been tested and tried and that's one of the best way to spread since the cooler will spread it by itself when you put it back.
@@leonardoresende3232 alright, thanks :) pea it is then
youtube: Let’s recommend this two years later!
Yep
2,5 year
yea
Lmao true
Yeh
The sound had me thinking somebody was banging at my window
hahahahahah me to
BRO FR
I really checked twice if someone is at my door.
creepy
For real! lol
some perfer *X method* while others prefer *dot method*
The Verge: lemme introduce you to the *constellation method*
Bird poop method you mean
@@sds187 too far man :(
As someone who has built several computers that video hurt me deeply. Like who thought that was ok?
I always spread it as evenly on the chip as possible that way I know it has coverage. Very light coat.
_lol_
This dude is literally stated on multiple videos it’s the amount not the pattern that matters this is the sixth pattern video that I have seen
literally the verge
Certain patterns require more so yea
ok but the x pattern is more than the dot🤨
@@toesucker68 yeah, because he obviously used more paste on the X
Milking them vews 🥛🍼
It would be very useful to put the temperatures you get in both cases. That would complete the video because we wanna know what choice is better
They’re both effective id say the X pattern will last a bit longer than the dot when it comes time to replacing the thermal paste since heat dries it up and it becomes all crumbly
Liquid metal is the solution, it will never dry.
However heatsink base should be copper or nickel.
@@Pocokcic Graphite Pads are better in my opinion because they dont make any mess and there are reusable
X pattern: you are risk taker
Dot pattern: you are safe
Square pattern: youre a perfectionist
Really surprising that applying 5x the thermal paste on the x pattern covers more of the socket 3head
Couldn't of said it better 👏
Should he have done a smaller x? If so that would be my ideal setup. If it stayed like it looked after the first transition "shot"
BTW that would be my "ideal looking" set up... I've never actually applied thermal paste so I don't know if it's actually of any benefit
@@drwombat My point was that he applied a lot more thermalpaste on the X pattern than on the dot pattern. So with the insufficient mounting pressure he is creating you need more thermal paste to cover the die properly. Just do a dot and you´ll be fine. You can also cross or other patterns, really doesn´t matter
@@JustusS2036 I agree, 1 dot is sufficient. This guy's not replicating the force the heatsink clamp has.
imagine thinking
" if there is more thermal paste, then there will be more thermal paste"
is entertaining
@@knightnight0108 someone’s mad that pride month ended
@@knightnight0108 dude they're talking about the video the X clearly used more thermal paste
He’s making a point about how the x clearly used more paste
@@knightnight0108 r/wooosh
@@knightnight0108 not too smart are ya, champ
i dont care about the paste, i was listening to this on my headphones and couldve sworn the knock in the song coming from my door
sounds like mirror mari by cashmere cat
Bruh I'm at work in the bathroom and I thought someone knocked on it and said “someone's in here” wtf 😂😂😂
LOL
I usually just fill my whole bathtub with thermal paste and completely submerge my whole pc in it. It had yet to exceed -48° i did notice a 92FPS drop due to not being able to see my RGB through the thermal paste, so i made sure to cover the entire bathroom in RGB lights to eliminate FPS loss.
10/10 most effective method so far. Highly recommended.
Lmaoooo
Lmaoooo
Lmaoooo
Lmaoooo
Lmaoooo
The X thermal paste looks like the avast antivirus logo.
lol yeah i was about to say it, very perfect right
I think the same
Just said the same LMAO
Stay safe online with avast
Virus detected
Avast ye matey
The door knock is so realistic, for a moment I believed in an early delivery.
this is like comparing a gallon of water to a glass of water
Can we take a moment to appreciate the circle the dot made
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
😂😂
What’s so good about it
Didn't use enough
@@rigzmoviediaries654 the perfection of the circle
Wouldn’t this be unfair since x has more than dot
No not really
That doesn’t mean it’s better, sometimes less is more
Well that's the point of testing it
Well he is right because to have a fair test surly the amount of paste he applies should be the same on both regardless of the pattern to ensure a fair test ? This will show the true advantage's and disadvantages to the pattern
@@sheepen9000 You're correct. Less is more here, to a point. Thermal paste is a worse heat conductor than metal. It is used to bridge the connection between the heatsink and the CPU lid. The less paste you can use to effectively transfer heat, the better.
Ideally, the heatsink should mount itself with an ideal width of thermal paste, but this isn't always the case.
I ALWAYS spread it out with a spatula or piece of cardboard. It serves to thin it out as much as possible. Some people put WAYYY to much thermal paste under there and there's literally no reason to waste that much product. I usually end up with a perfectly even layer in the amount somewhere between the X and the Dot here.
It costs nothing lol
@@Digger-Nick it's not the cost, the performance plateaus then decreases after too much.
@@Digger-Nickexcessive thermal past act as an isolator and you can have overheating, the better is spread a thin layer on both surfaces.
@@EarlCo Nobody is submerging their processor in thermal paste bud
@@Dawson600 What's your point?
A perfect circle doesn’t exi-
This short just made me realize I put way too much thermal on my cpu and when I go lift that cooler for the first time we gon have a mess
A bit too much is better than not enough at least...
@@TheSPazCORE what do you mean? Amount of thermal should be as little as possible. Main goal of the thermal paste is to make the surface of processor and cooler smooth and fill every little scratch. A bit too much is worse than a bit less
@@rintli6244 not true at all ruclips.net/video/5mhPRpdjf6M/видео.html
Feeling with you just did that an hour agi
@@rintli6244 Plenty of people have tested the thermals of putting stupid amounts of paste. Usually it's not even a detectable difference.
1) The coverage of the dot is fine, but 2) Make a bigger dot. Problem solved.
Yup. Danger of spilling over the side is larger with x than dot as well. You can easily add more paste if you suspect coverage was bad as long as paste is freshly applied. Much more annoying to clean excess if you mess up.
4 dot vs X
The ultimate battle
So based off this presentation in my mind I’ve assumed if you do 3 dots not to close to the edge like a triangle you’d get the best spread and if done right no spills
X pattern vs dice 5-dot pattern
This will be legendary battle
exactly
Plus the pre applied thermal paste
Lmaooo-
The verge guy right?
@@harshjain3122 ya
Spherical!!!!
Y u on every short
Hi Verified Person
Sorry for how people reply to you. They never listen to you but always comment "you are everywhere" must be hard 😞
IM EARLY YESSS
Spherical!!!!
bro the toc toc on the music is so realistic
I use 1 dot in each corner. And one big in the middel. Works really great.
That what i did today!
A reminder that just because the X covers more than the dot, doesn’t mean the X is better. The die of a CPU is in the center, not on the outskirts.
There are review with tesy in youtube that shows that X is the most effective way of pasting
He simply put more thermal paste in the X pattern in this video
@@leeroyjenkins0 actually there isn't any problems if you put more paste on it in regards of thermals. Pressure spreads the paste in both cases to the same thickness. The only problem that can arise, is that the pase spills out on the motherboard and sometimes in the socket.
@@S41t4r4 from what i have seen in some tests it can make your CPU run slighly hotter if it is an intel because the intle thingy puts less pressure on the paste and it can end up in a thicker layer, making it less efficient. Usually spreading about 80/90% of the lid is ideal, since the temperature reaches the corners way less often, and you dont make a mess on your socket.
@@Ferrari255GTO Most cooler have enough pressure to spread, bad pressure in itself is problematic.
if you put the same amount of paste in the middle as you did in the X, you will have the same results in both
200 iQ
@enrique amaya fk jesus
@enriqueamaya3883no
@enrique amaya stick to fortnite kiddo
"I paid for the whole tube, I'm gonna USE the whole tube."
The best method is to put some paste and spread it evenly with a tool before putting anything on top
Well since the chip is a square maybe try a small square. That's how I did it and when I pulled off my AIO the thermal past was perfectly to the edges. Only on one side did it squeeze out and get a tiny bit on the edge
You have a good chance to trap air in the middle with a square.
@@markusvienna231 the new thermal paste I used came with a little plastic mold with holes in it! They said to place the mold over the CPU lid place a couple lines of paste across and use the spreader to fill in all the holes. Then the pressure applied would spread the paste out evenly filling in all the gaps.
My 13900k now runs at 54°c stock and when I overclock it up to 6.0 -5.7 it runs at 64-72°c. Since I have more then adequate power running it stock I don't see a need to OC and run it 10-15c hotter.
It's always nice to say I'm getting 5.791 in game instead of 5.491 but the difference isn't really noticable other than on benchmark scores.
By "test" I figured you meant put the CPUs under load and compare their core temps. I'd be interested in those results.
he’s doin it by coverage
@@aquafinity1 you could cover the whole surface and still end up with tiny air pockets in between the paste that could affect Temps. I think someone else on RUclips has already done thermal testing on different paste patterns.
The heat would likely help it spread. I've use dot and ended up with full coverage. I've never used the x yet, but what I see here is with proper heat sink pressure and heat from the cpu. It too would give full coverage.
No one does this
Difference will be basically negligible, half a degree max.
This music made me think somebody is knocking on the door...
same
@@romanov5997 The funny thing is that the door is also on right/back side of my head!
wtf I looked and my door as well... jesus christ
fkn same lol...
dead ass, my door is on the right side of my desk lol
the most generous pc repair dude:
That knocking scared the shit out of me
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Blyt
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A man of culture I see 🤝
blyat use mayoneze as paste and vodka as cooler
That knocking sound scared the shit out of me
Same here man 😂 door was open and still heard the knocking sound in the middle of the night 😂
Fr I looked at my door and had to replay to see if it was the video
Its 3am.
Me:Yes?
Same bruh
Me too but I just shit my pants🤣🤣
I’ve always done a pea sized dot in the middle when building my computers and it’s always worked perfectly you don’t want to cake the thermal paste on
Just a reminder for those who use Ryzen 7000 CPUs, due to the plate being smaller and the existence of the gaps, don't use the x pattern or else they might overflow into the side gaps
that shouldn’t be a problem with non conductive thermal paste right?
You can also just get an AM5 Thermal Paste Guard
Dont use x pattern or else so dont use thermal paste ?😅
The X isn't better than the dot.
The x just have more thermal paste, but u can achieve the exact same thing if u make that dot just a little bit bigger.
edit: yo wtf 1.7k likes
Yes
But the dot that he used will still be adequate because that’s where the die is and that is the part that will heat up so that is why it is recommend to use only a pea sized dot for thermal paste application
Yeah but the point is that people always tell others "about the size of a pea" which is way too little. It's a good analog that people know, but way too little.
X is most definitely better. The x gets to the corners
Have fun burning chiplets on ryzen using the dot
you scared the shit out of me with that door knock
holy shit yeah same here i have a door on the same side, and it sounded so real with my headphones.
what door knock
@@korbin2594 the knock is on the right channel of the stereo feed, try a headset
Almost made me think there's an actual knock at the door... and the timing is not right at all!
😂😂
I combine x and dot. It fills in any potential hotspots really well.
Pea sized dot vs. bean sized dot
Don't really listen to these the diffrnece between him pushing it and it being screwed into the fucking board makes a big difference
He showed after the coolers were installed. You can see him removing a CPU cooler right before final results
he first shows how it starts to spread w the glass & pressure, then he shows what it will actually spread to if you put the cooler on, by putting a cooler on
Watch the whole video first moron
@@itszain6317 watch out, we got a badass over here
The knocking nosie scared that shit outta me
same
sameee 😭 .
I watched the video like three times and still couldn't figure out if it was just in the video or not
Bro it was 3 am when I watching this and it scared me so much I went up and got a knife.
@@andrelopez9194 Good, safety first. don't ask why i respond so fast
I always use the X with a small dot in each of the sections. Perfect spread every time
i haven’t heard this sound since ‘19-‘20 tiktok and i just got a rush of nostalgia for a time that wasn’t that long ago but yet feels like she’s ago
Actually the amaunt is different in this case. The gap should be standard due to the screw legth, so if you use less material, the volume occupied is also minor
With some coolers you can vary the amount you tighten the screw tho, also if they are sprung this will amplyfy any diferance in tightening due to store up potential energy in the compressed springs as it gets tighter.
Like you, I am frustrated by poor grammar in posts, but that’s primarily because it requires me to “decode” the intended message rather than simply read well-constructed sentences. I find it hilarious that, in your reply, yours is flawed as well. “THE only thing I learned WAS…” (The red pen is now back in the drawer.)
This seems like a better test of the amount you should put on instead of the pattern. There was a lot more in the x.
The thing is, this test is still valid because it shows how the X shape helps ensure there is enough paste applied. It's hard to judge the right amount with a dot.
@@Autotrope Stupidest shit lmfao
@@Autotrope Yeah no they almost certainly added too much with an x that size. Maybe with a smaller x it would work but that is too much you could see it dripping round the sides.
Excess thermal paste is bad anyway.
@@harryhall4001 No they really didn't add too much and no it isn't necessarily bad. Using "too much" has no negative impact on thermal performance, that it does is nothing but a myth that has been proven false by outlets such as LTT and Gamer's Nexus. The cooler retention will squeeze out the excess leaving just enough for optimal thermal transfer. The only real concerns with the squeezed out excess is cleaning and the risk of shorting components if you use an electrically conductive compound but most modern compounds aren't electrically conductive. You should err on the side of too much to avoid using too little which most certainly can impact thermal performance and is actually bad especially on larger multi-die chips, or ideally spread it yourself instead of relying solely on cooler retention.
Usually the entire small tube is the correct amount needed
Volume is key... Twice as much used in the X means twice the coverage.
That audio at the end sounds like someone knocking at a door to my right when i have both earphones on. Seriously trippy man. It's at 00:15 seconds.
The 5 dot pattern from a dice..
You literally read my mind
Thats what i thot yesd
This reminds me of the old “avast antivirus” icon lol
I hated that anti-virus
Avast was the king dude. Only virus software at the time that would start before boot up to remove
That yellow paint drop icon?
@@COURAGE-Studios yeah
That was the best antivirus software at its time. Windows Defender Antivirus supremacy!
My concern everytime i see these kind of videos is, yeah your pushing from the corners and it’ll still presse the center down, it’s not like it has a huge bend from the pressure, I’m sure you’re not even pressing hard but when you mount a cooler, it presses down evenly, why not get a bigger piece to act like you’re mounting a cooler. I feel both the x and dot would spread more, dot would still be my preference, just want to see if there’s a bigger difference pushing it evenly down yeah it’ll pull from the corners but when you first put it on, the cooler alone pressed down on it first, the the bolts would
Edit: i rewatched it, you did put quite a bit of force on them…. Again, from the corners, not the center. when you screw it down it’ll pull from the corners but the cooler is the first thing that spread the thermal paste and then the screws help it even it out more and but more pressure on it.
Why not drill some holes into a bigger acrylic piece and screw in on to the board to act like it’s a actual cooler being mounted to see how it spreads and you did put very little paste on the dot compared to the X
That knock on the music really tripped me
It doesn't matter if you put too much it's just wasteful, but too little will obviously affect it. Literally any pattern works fine as long as you use enough
Its also important to remember that metal is still a far superior conductor of heat than thermal paste. The paste is only inteded to fill the microscopic dips and valleys in the surface to maximize contact area, as direct metal to metal contact is preferable. So using too much is a bad thing.
In some devices too much can cause the chip to heat up , so it is VERY IMPORTANT to put the amount that covers the whole side that touches the heat sink and that's it
@@billf7585 exactly
@@billf7585 Worst thing that will happen if you use too much is it'll spill over the sides. The cooler squishes the thermal paste. If you put a kilogram of thermal paste in the middle and put the cooler on, the majority of the thermal paste will spill over, resulting in the same thickness of paste under the cooler.
@@abd-elhalimomar4287 No. If you put too much in the middle for example, it doesn't stay in the middle. It'll just spill out.
The way you're describing it, you'd need to damage the IHS or the heatplate of the cooler so then more thermal paste would be there which would worsen results.
Typically I replace the concrete foundation of my house with thermal paste and sacrifice my 3090 to the thermal gods. With RGB interior walls I've noticed 420% increase in fps and -69°c temperatures. 11/10 would recommend this procedure.
😂😂😂
i can confirm this is a certified hood classic
a respectable gamer meme.
Nah dude if your basement isnt made of thermal paint iun interested
gamer moment
I used to be a dot man but have converted to the X shape and have noticed my chips running cooler.
What the Fck?... It was the music I thought there was somebody knockin at My Door HAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣
Maybe apply equal thermal paste… normal that 3x the dot on the X pattern cover more haha
I generally put it on the pins, so I don't mess up
Wanted to like this comment, but it's currently at 69 likes so I'm legally obligated to leave it alone lol
Alright, it got to 99, so now I had to like it lol
@@CrazyIrishmen7 You shouldv'e just liked it, the world will never allow something so perfect to remain that way
we allowed you )
@@charliechan6892
When the teacher said that a Dot is perfectly fine enough but than it don’t what to stick so we put more than a dot 😂😂💀💀
People in internet x vs dot
me: FiNgEr
Le physics students:
X->vector in outward direction
•->vector in inward direction😂
is nobody going to talk about how perfect that circle is
I was wondering the same thing, lol 😹
finally the comment i was looking for
@@marmar2310 your welcome lol
LMAO, Exactly.
buttered toast pattern A.K.A whole IHS covered by a thin layer of paste
I’ve started doing a snowflake like pattern. Has worked great for me so far.
There’s no such thing as a perfect circle-
not perfect
@@Yemyu_VR🤓👆
@@tide7107 the nerd emoji is so overused. Im literally saying something then some 5 year old uses the nerd emoji. Do you know how dumb it is? Someone could be giving out REAL statistics then someone just pulls out the nerd emoji. There is no point in using it because all it does is start arguments.
@@Yemyu_VR bro is literally the 🤓👆in real life
@@Yemyu_VR🤓☝️
I use the dot method but I do a slightly bigger dot. It always covers it really good!
Just spread it with your finger or something else, don't waste your thermal paste 😩😩
As CPU's got bigger. I found just doing 1 large dot and 4 small dots in corner is just flawless. Never have to worry about it. I always suggest it to friends who are building their first PC.
The fidget spinner pattern go crazy
I wonder if this kid ever actually shows anyone the right way.
What is the best way?
@@changedlater6802 small dot is good
@@changedlater6802 small dot is the best one
@@changedlater6802 Spreading the paste.
@@Sebastian-eo8xl No, it's not.
for anybody wondering the song is “i think im falling for you”
Thanks dude. really
God bless you
Just two homies that flirt with each other. Nothing weird here.
That's why I put filler dots in the empty places between the X, so full coverage is achieved.
Just watch reviewers building PC for overclock every day : they use Big dot and four little dot in a square pattern around.
That's what I did, it got the whole cpu, and logically makes the most sense to me so idk. Just ensure it's not too much
A recent fan I bought said 4 little dots for one type of cpu, the x for a different type. So yeah I'm gonna go w the actual instructions.
Spread it out. Guarantees total coverage. The whole "best thermal paste pattern" argument is kinda dumb when you can just spread it out yourself and not worry about missing anything lol
@@normifieddamn never thought of that😅
If your cooler has copper pipes underneath, I find it best to make thin lines lining every copper pipe which makes a 100% ihs coverage.
Steffon from the verge better be taking notes!
whenever i hear the words “thermal paste” my mind jumps to him just creating a mf painting with it
Bro the dot looks like a perfect circle
I do the spread method. I put a dot in the middle, then use the little spatula to spread a very thin layer over the entire CPU.
Is noone talking about the fact that their was a knok on the left side when he pulls the thing up
Thank god you said this I was about to think there was someone actually knocking
@@bortsampson me 2 i was looking left (to my wall)
Next time just say “Will this giant X of thermal paste which has way more paste than any other things I’m going to say in this video take up more room?”
If the paste isn't conductive, it doesn't matter if you let it get over the side. Always use more rather than less
My dad always does the dot and trust me, he knows his way around computers
I usually just wash my hands, brush, and bathe in thermal paste; though for the times when it comes to computers I prefer the triangle pattern
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Bruh I’m sitting in my dorm and that knock made me think my Drill Sergeant was banging on my door. God damn that’s scared the shit out of me
Best thermal paste pattern is letter "H"
I used X on my i7-13700k in my current build and temps have never looked better
pro tip: add the same amount next time
With the X it's literally spilling over the edge and making a mess, there's a reason why for years you would put a small amount of thermal paste on the CPU and not do stupid patterns
THIS
Well he’s demonstrating them
@@erwin2962 it worked the best but alright
I use to do rice drop and then switched over to penta dot method and literally dropped 5c
Some pastes are REALLY viscous and don't spread well.
Next video - ass wiping patterns: circular motion vs perpetual
Idk what this is about but the circle was satisfyingly perfect
How hard you wanted to press that cpu?
Him:Yes.
So, how is the Eva project going?
@@de4d_b0dy Due to Covid 19 we stopped our activities untill further notice. All staff may wait for the next announcement while reading some memes.
@@nerv4316 shit, hope covid-19 makes Shinji finally get on the robot
@@de4d_b0dy 😂😂😂
@@nerv4316 I heard that the fbi are looking for you
name the more iconic duo
I prefeer the square pattern with a dot inside of it or even just cover the full cpu 😂
I thought someone was knocking on my door half way thru that song.
Haha same I thought it was my dad
Same
Whats the song?
A swirly twist the would be interesting
@@fartsoundeffect5013 😑
@@fartsoundeffect5013 LOOL WHY SO MEAN? SOMEBODY IS IN A BAD MOOD.
He was saying do a spiral so when he presses it down it fits it in
SHUt Up
@@fartsoundeffect5013 yeah I don’t get what his counter argument was ether
Maybe try to not act like a Hardass though over 1 comment
@@fartsoundeffect5013 Jesus lmao
@@fartsoundeffect5013 someones having a bad day
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i thought someone knocked on my door bro
The music is some kind of remix of a Cashmere Cat song - I think it’s Mirror Maru
Thank you
Thx
It's dathan - mirror masa