Manny Fernandez was one of the better, yet underrated workers of the 80's and I liked the intensity he brought to his matches. He was a solid, mid to upper-level wrestler who could also cut a decent promo, and work as either a heel or a babyface. However; Manny is practicing a bit of revisionist history here. The idea that his match against Abdullah the Butcher was supposed to be the main event at Starrcade 85 is complete nonsense. This was the Starrcade that featured the Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard 'I Quit' match in a cage in Greensboro, which was one of the best Starrcade matches ever. The other main event at the Omni in Atlanta was the Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes NWA world title match. Fernandez vs. Abby was nothing more than a special attraction gimmick match. Abby was not even working that territory as a regular at that time. It was a good match for what it was, but in no way was it a main-event caliber match for Starrcade. Manny also indicates that people - including himself- left the Omni after his match, implying that nothing could follow it. However; If you watch the Flair/Rhodes match from that show; you will see that one of the first guys to run into the ring to congratulate Dusty Rhodes after what appeared to be his winning of the NWA title, was none other than Manny Fernandez. Did he run all the way from the hotel bar back to the Omni and into the ring? I can appreciate that guys will take some creative liberty when relating stories from their heyday (kind of like fishing stories), but when they can be verified or refuted with video, it's probably a good idea to keep the embellishments somewhat reasonable.
Exactly.....Manny is full of shit and a story teller....I still enjoyed his work and like him tho..but give me a break...Dusty v Flair...nobody leaving before that match...and no way he is the main event over them....ever
I met Manny as kid he was nwa tag team champs..with Rick rude..Manny was playing a heel at my local high skool..fans loved Manny ..he came out to sign autographs..he was super cool as ask us did play sports or our favorite rasslers..this rare see a heel break character..the ragin bull..Manny Fernandez underrated..he had hell of career
yeah- i cant support it either. nobody would have walked out on flair vs rhodes... those two owned georgia back in the day. cant think of any matchup that had more heat- maybe dusty and tully or magnum and nikita.
have seen the Mexican Death Match with Manny Fernandez Vs Abdullah The Butcher on RF Video's Extreme Matches Of The 80's vhs .Awesome match even though it was clips of the match. would love to see a full version of the match.
I actually love the Mexican death match between Abdullah the Butcher and Manny Fernandez. That being said, ain’t no way in hell that was going to main event at Starcade 85. With the story that Ric Flair and dusty Rhodes had? Fuck no! I call bullshit on this!
I always thought Flair was an overrated wrestler. I would not pay to see him. Actually Abdullah & Manny, I would pay to see them fight. Both of them are very intense when it comes to matches. I consider the Flair and Dusty match a very boring match so as the match with Harley Race & Flair. I actually find Abdullah very entertaining to watch., headbutting referees is just hilarious. The indian strap match between Wahoo Mcdaniel & Manny Fernandez was very entertaining.
Manny does put himself over a bit too much sometimes. But the wat he describes dusty booking himself to go overbbig is spot on. One of dustys few character flaws. He loved that spotlight
Big shows back then didnt really have main events as the last match. I clearly remember going to several shows where Flair defended the title in the middle of the card or even before intermission. I dont think he meant main event but last match
He's lying. While house shows in that era, & even today will often have the title as the "pre-intermission main event," supercards of that era, as was case before & after, featured the main event last. Just look at the Starrcades from the previous two years, or the inaugural David Von Erich Memorial Parade of Champions, or even the WWF event from Shea. For one thing he keeps referring this to the headline, top billed, & main event, so he actually mean main event, not last match. He's outright lying about people leaving en masse after his match. You can clearly see there's a packed house in the Omni for Flair vs Rhodes (go watch it on the network). Three, I remember this Starrcade, and this was just a match. It was not the draw. Flair vs Dusty & Magnum vs Tully where the two hottest angles not only in the territory, but also in wrestling. The Rock 'n' Express match would have been third billing, because outside of Dusty, Flair, & Magnum, no one was more over. You could even argue that Mid-Atlantic title or National tag title match was more important. Manny was a mid-carder, who was mainly in mid-card feuds. The highest he ever went on cards was tagging w Dusty or working against the R 'n R. The Bull is just lying to sound more important than he was.
The Raging Bullsh1tter with Abby at the Omni was Definitely the Main Event in Starcade '85 - who would want to watch Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes after that? And don't believe Black Bart when he shoots on calling Manny outside in "North Fork Virginia" and Ramirez not coming out to face him until the Police arrived, old Bart got lucky that night, and that's the truth of the matter....
I bet Harley race, ric flair and haku have shared a beer with manny and respect him. You on the other hand are a simpleton mark. so how does your opinion of relevancy mean fuck all?
I heard Jim Duggan tell a story about Manny trying to hurt Nikolai Volkoff in the ring and Nikolai knocked him out lol
Black Bart is a Classic old school name for a Wrestler
"The whole Omni just left."
Yeah, no, the Rhodes-Flair match suggests otherwise.
NWA owned the Omni many sell-outs and big crowds.
Manny Fernandez was one of the better, yet underrated workers of the 80's and I liked the intensity he
brought to his matches. He was a solid, mid to upper-level wrestler who could also cut a decent promo, and work as either a heel or a babyface. However; Manny is practicing a bit of revisionist history here.
The idea that his match against Abdullah the Butcher was supposed to be the main event at Starrcade
85 is complete nonsense. This was the Starrcade that featured the Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard 'I Quit' match in a cage in Greensboro, which was one of the best Starrcade matches ever. The other main event at the Omni in Atlanta was the Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes NWA world title match.
Fernandez vs. Abby was nothing more than a special attraction gimmick match. Abby was not even working
that territory as a regular at that time. It was a good match for what it was, but in no way was it a main-event caliber match for
Starrcade. Manny also indicates that people - including himself- left the Omni after his match, implying that nothing could follow it. However; If you watch the Flair/Rhodes match from that show; you will see that one of the first guys to run into the ring to congratulate Dusty Rhodes after what appeared to be his winning of the NWA title, was none other than Manny Fernandez. Did he run all the way from the hotel bar back to the Omni and into the ring?
I can appreciate that guys will take some creative liberty when relating stories from their heyday (kind
of like fishing stories), but when they can be verified or refuted with video, it's probably a good idea to keep the embellishments
somewhat reasonable.
He did actually run back from the hotel. 😃
Exactly.....Manny is full of shit and a story teller....I still enjoyed his work and like him tho..but give me a break...Dusty v Flair...nobody leaving before that match...and no way he is the main event over them....ever
I met Manny as kid he was nwa tag team champs..with Rick rude..Manny was playing a heel at my local high skool..fans loved Manny ..he came out to sign autographs..he was super cool as ask us did play sports or our favorite rasslers..this rare see a heel break character..the ragin bull..Manny Fernandez underrated..he had hell of career
Manny had some good matches with Arn Anderson and he and Rick Rude were a good tag team for awhile.
Manny is an underappreciated legend! He deserves so much more. I remember his matches in the old territories.
I remember all those unforgettable matches against the Sheepherders, killer Tim Brooks and let's not forget Eric Embry!!!
He had the first match at the Omni not next to last. No one left
Has there ever been a guy who oversold his actual worth more than Manny, who was just a midcard guy for a couple years in a major promotion
Manny was NWA World Tag Champ.
I love how Abby sold that boot to the head. I thought he was having a seizure. That dude could sell
I got Manny's autograph in Tarboro NC back in February of '85. Him and Bart were in the main event. Got Bart's autograph that night too.
Omni was full for Flair-Rhodes, Manny full of bull.
yeah- i cant support it either. nobody would have walked out on flair vs rhodes... those two owned georgia back in the day. cant think of any matchup that had more heat- maybe dusty and tully or magnum and nikita.
I forgot that he suplexed Abdullahthe butcher...I gotta admit I lost it and hollered very loud
I still watch that match
Floyd Wilson is it on youtube Floyd?
The flying burrito
The butcher one of the greatest showman ever in wrestling
A legend in his own mind
have seen the Mexican Death Match with Manny Fernandez Vs Abdullah The Butcher on RF Video's Extreme Matches Of The 80's vhs .Awesome match even though it was clips of the match. would love to see a full version of the match.
Is that match on RUclips ?
People left Manny ................NOOOOOOOOOOOO
It was an incredible match...but people left afterwards??? I don't think so.
He said the people on simulcast left.
I actually love the Mexican death match between Abdullah the Butcher and Manny Fernandez. That being said, ain’t no way in hell that was going to main event at Starcade 85. With the story that Ric Flair and dusty Rhodes had? Fuck no! I call bullshit on this!
I always thought Flair was an overrated wrestler. I would not pay to see him. Actually Abdullah & Manny, I would pay to see them fight. Both of them are very intense when it comes to matches. I consider the Flair and Dusty match a very boring match so as the match with Harley Race & Flair. I actually find Abdullah very entertaining to watch., headbutting referees is just hilarious. The indian strap match between Wahoo Mcdaniel & Manny Fernandez was very entertaining.
every shoot interview from every wrestler in every territory ALWAYS says they were supposed to "get the strap" and main event
I like Manny
LUL. Yep, they were totally going to put the Sombrero on a poll match in the main event slot. Come'on Manny!
Manny does put himself over a bit too much sometimes. But the wat he describes dusty booking himself to go overbbig is spot on. One of dustys few character flaws. He loved that spotlight
Manny is the coolest!
they blew the house down
Main event huh? That don't even sound right!!!
Ok? Abdullah and Manny were to Main Event Starrcade???? No
Big shows back then didnt really have main events as the last match. I clearly remember going to several shows where Flair defended the title in the middle of the card or even before intermission. I dont think he meant main event but last match
as have I at MSG where Hogan was middle of the show. Still I feel at Starrcade would never have been Headlined by Manny ever. love the dude but cmon
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He's lying. While house shows in that era, & even today will often have the title as the "pre-intermission main event," supercards of that era, as was case before & after, featured the main event last. Just look at the Starrcades from the previous two years, or the inaugural David Von Erich Memorial Parade of Champions, or even the WWF event from Shea.
For one thing he keeps referring this to the headline, top billed, & main event, so he actually mean main event, not last match.
He's outright lying about people leaving en masse after his match. You can clearly see there's a packed house in the Omni for Flair vs Rhodes (go watch it on the network).
Three, I remember this Starrcade, and this was just a match. It was not the draw. Flair vs Dusty & Magnum vs Tully where the two hottest angles not only in the territory, but also in wrestling. The Rock 'n' Express match would have been third billing, because outside of Dusty, Flair, & Magnum, no one was more over.
You could even argue that Mid-Atlantic title or National tag title match was more important. Manny was a mid-carder, who was mainly in mid-card feuds. The highest he ever went on cards was tagging w Dusty or working against the R 'n R.
The Bull is just lying to sound more important than he was.
jamaynex Exactly. His Parade of Champions match with Kerry wasn't last in the order eithet
Cemento??? More like demento.. Or bullshito
Manny the "Ragin Bullshitter"
He's lying! Flair vs Rhodes were the main event
He don't even no where he is now
That's right
I 💕 Abdullah but sucks what he did with the Hep C thing was totally reckless and careless of him😣
yeah right manny was never a main event guy unless its a shit independent show
Manny never fails to hint at how supposed tough he is.... lol
The Raging Bullsh1tter with Abby at the Omni was Definitely the Main Event in Starcade '85 - who would want to watch Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes after that? And don't believe Black Bart when he shoots on calling Manny outside in "North Fork Virginia" and Ramirez not coming out to face him until the Police arrived, old Bart got lucky that night, and that's the truth of the matter....
Fernandez rarely comes off as having a lot of credibility...
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he is such a liar. whatever mr navy seal
Full of shit manny
Manny is not or never was relevant.
I bet Harley race, ric flair and haku have shared a beer with manny and respect him. You on the other hand are a simpleton mark. so how does your opinion of relevancy mean fuck all?
Russ Fleming are you done?