honestly kazuha and venti are both some of the most fun and satisfying characters to use lmao anemo impact is real *also i wanna emphasize that kazuha can also do REALLY well against elemental shields like abyss lectors/heralds, if i didnt make that clear in the video. & side note: venti's burst can refund 15 energy which is nice in some teams with high energy bursts (ex. freeze), while kazuha can run a fav sword as a good option for giving your team energy.
HEY Zy I got the elegy from hutao weapon banner as i lost the homa Should i get venti as he will displace and buff or Just wait for kazuha but i just got the iron sting for Him?
"Kazuha is suspected to get a rerun in the near future" mr socks how do you know that? how did you come across such information?🤨 i don't recall mihoyo announcing such information.
same! i already had kazuha but still pulled for venti so i can put them on each team for the abyss. also bcos i wanted venti ever since i started playing genshin.
I'm gonna do the same but the other way around. I have venti, but I'm definitely planning on pulling for kazuha whenever his rerun comes. anemo just too op for abyss
Having a 5 star anemo support really is a game changer for your account. I had a hard time 9 starring this abyss on my main acc because I have no 5 star anemo support(sucrose is under leveled and I have no cryo character built). But on my alt acc I 9 starred it first try with raiden national and Ayaka Venti.
For me because I never really used my Anemo characters as supports I normally play the abyss without them, except if I really really need sucrose for grouping and in that scenario, my sucrose is rocking a DPS build lol
there are some 4 stars that can out dps 5 stars .. sucrose can def do that, xangling too. bennett is pretty much 5 star if you never touch his c6.. keep .him.at.c5, dont be like me... KEEP HIM AT C5!!!
@@Honed- i C6'd my Bennett 2 days ago to buff my Hutao. not beneficial to my Eula but she is a burst bot anyway. Paired with Raiden my eula doesn't need to do much normal attack dmg
You forgot to mention how good Venti is with Ayaka because of the energy refund from his ult. Pair that with Amenoma and another cryo unit and you literally need 0 energy recharge on Ayaka so you can build her with as much dmg as possible (saying this because Ayaya's rerun is the next banner)
Either a cryo battery or amenoma is enough. I run her with sacrificial chongyun and Venti and I don't even have his second passive unlocked yet. And still I can cast her burst off cooldown.
yeah thats a fair point -- although kazuha's elemental damage buff is extremely powerful for freeze/ayaka teams so honestly both can be great options in their own way
@@haosru That's because people isn't having fun for playing the game anymore, they find more entertaiment making wars, comparations, and shitting each others, and imposing their arrogant way of think, we can see this with childe and ayato. It never was about fun or meta, it's all about who is right and who's not, there're few people who is really balance about this.
Quick side note: ventis Energie refund also can be really valuable. I'm playing Morgana (with ganyu) and without Venti, but with sucrose instead I constantly find myself not having ganyus ult up on time, even though I have 146 er
@@monokomomo4977 no not in elements itto is better than zhongli lol but zhongli has strongest shield so not as elements but in their role they r best they r not strong in their element
Venti can actually pull large enemies, but slowly though, when the enemies are frozen or petrified (via Zhongli burst). So running him with my Morganya (Ayaka Morgana instead of Ganyu) worked wonders for me even for Ruin Guards/Graders and the big Geovishaps.
@@blitzvii322 Even in Inazuma before the nerf to enemy weight Venti can still suck enemies when they're frozen. Easier to abuse if Ganyu is on the team cause of her huge burst AOE. Ganyu + Ayaka + Venti makes the new Ruin enemies a joke.
I have both and they both carried my ass in spiral abyss. Anemo impact is indeed real. I love their lore, fashion style, and most of all their playstyle. I can never take them out of my team.
@@IDKbruh420 For my personal experience, I use them both in the same party in the overworld and it was a glorious experience since I could easily defeat the mobs. In the abyss, they're okay as well in the same team but I'd personally rather separate them so I could conveniently use cc in both teams.
Venti is the only character in the game that I would call truly broken (when he works). If his ult can fully CC an enemy, they're basically Thanos Snapped out of existence.
I'm so glad I pulled Venti on his first rerun as part of my archon collecting mission. I didn't pull for Kazuha back then because I have all anemo unit beside him and I'm not really sure if I need him at that time. Now I definitely pulling, he'll be an amazing addition to my second abyss team (Venti is permanently reserved for my freeze Ganyu)
@@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ I was running Morgana with sucrose as a replacement for venti but I SERIOUSLY underestimated how much of a difference venti makes. I use Kokomi and Rosaria with ganyu and venti and my abyss times got sooooo much faster.
Big difference too is that Kazuha reruns seems much more slower since it seems that all Archons will have more frequent reruns given their importance in the story.
For anyone who's uncertain and on the edge on what they should do here's my backstory. I hope i can help someone; I got Venti. I was in the middle of pre-farming for Kazuha. I had to buy Crystals to get him (50€) but i'll explain why. So i was guaranteed after i got the Shogun in her last Banner since Diluc showed up shortly after her, which was lucky for me. Then i wanted to skip everything until Kazuha and save, but i said f*ck it. He's still far away, leaks suggest 2.8. But now i only had like 20 pulls for Venti and all of my Character's always come very late around 70 Pity... I bought the 50€ pack and that hurt me. I normally only get Welkin and BP. Luckily i still had the x2 bonus since i never buy Genesis Crystals. He came at wish 70 something. I don't regret it one bit tho. Venti is a lot of fun in Domains and the Overworld. He's truly game changing, at least for me. Also, i finally got my first Sucrose and even her C1! I wanted her all this time. I'm AR56 and i can finally play around with Anemo Reactions and Swirling Elements around and I'm having so much fun. This is only a glimpse of what Kazuha is going to be and I'm getting way more excited for him now. I don't even have that great of a VV Artifact Set for both of them. In fact barely anything. But i own 2 Elegy Bows, i refined it. I got them both in the last Hutao rerun because Staff of Homa came very late after loosing 2x Pity's which was really heartbreaking. Looking back at it now that miserable Weapon Banner was actually working in my favor...🤘 Characters like Venti are just always nice to have and future proof in some way or form whether it be in Domains or the Overworld. Sumeru is close too and who knows how that'll be. He could become very relevant again and people might regret not going for him now. In fact he's still is relevant, it just depends on what you do. I'm often farming Talent Books or stuff like that so he's perfect for me. He excels in certain content and every Character is that way. Kazuha has his ups and downs too. That Venti works in certain Abyss Rotations is just a bonus. I don't get Characters because of Abyss, but that's just me. With that being said, i don't regret using a bit of my Money & my guaranteed for him. Of course some People can't just spend 50 bucks, and they shouldn't, even if they do and they're not guaranteed they might just get a Qiqi or something. But i suggest anyone to get Venti either way if they can and if they don't have him. Also, collecting all Archons... :)
Two of my favorite pulls, Kazuha actually ended up being my overal favorite character in the whole game. I even lucked out on his C1, pairing that with Sac he's basically my main carry in open world where the dps more than suffices, and it actually seems good in some quickswaps, though Thundering Fury is also an option for EC. A lot of people use Xiangling, Bennett, Kazuha and then usually Venti, maybe like a Fischl (Sayu for Blizzard domain speedruns etc.), Sac + C1 makes that one of my favorite comps as someone who loves having Kazuha on-field a lot, also very fun in messy overvape-swirl teams, but doesn't work well when it eats valuable field-time and/or eats important reactions.
Pulling Venti (after skipping his 1st and rerun banner) made my spiral abyss run so much smoother and easier. I don't have Kazuha but I may go for him on the rerun anyways.
I’ve had Venti since his first rerun but I’m also gonna pull for Kazuha. I’d imagine Kazuha would generally fit into more teams and more abyss setups, but Venti can be such a beast when the situation favors him. Can’t wait to have Venti and Kazuha for each half of abyss (I don’t like using Sucrose, and other anemo units aren’t really for CC).
Very good point on Sucrose' existence bringing down the 'necessity' of Kazuha. Not too many people mention that. I'm gonna pull for him cos I got his weapon during Eula re-run. But.. Let's see how I feel by the time he gets here.
My hot take: people overrate Kazuha so much to the point they forgot about Sucrose' existence. Kazuha is obviously better and 100% worth your primos but Sucrose can still get the job done. Its like saying "You need Ganyu/Ayaka to clear 12-3-2" while forgetting the fact that Rosaria, Kaeya & Chongyun exists
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 exactly... people make him way too necessary than he actually is... yes he's an amazing unit and you can pull for him if you like him but he isn't a must pull for me, besides this game will likely last for about 7 years so who's to say that a character better than kazuha won't come out in that time just pull for him if you like his character, playstyle or his utility... don't pull just because he's meta
@@DhrithionVocals agree. I ended up skip Kazuha in his next rerun later and pulled Venti because I main ranged character, both in exploration and abyss. I choose someone who brings comfort in team rotation rather than meta but clunky to use in team rotation
I personally don't see myself wishing for kazuha since I built sucrose (yes I got her low ar and built her) she's awesome and it works, in the other hand I want to wish for venti, since the trial it makes me really wanna wish for him, I hope I win 50-50.
I just rolled Venti and I've had Kazuha since day 1 and my account is so comfortable with these two. I usually have Kazuha on my vaporize teams and Venti on freeze teams
I recently got venti and now my Morgana team is finally complete. I will also save for Kazuha and will definitely pull for him to support my Xiao. I believe he is gonna get a rerun in 2.8 I guess so there's more time to save. Anyway thanks for this guide man I always love your content.
Kazuha can't support Xiao though, because Kazuha doesn't buff anemo or Geo or physical damage bonus because he can't swirl these. You are better of getting Albedo for Xiao and Zhongli if you already haven't yet.
Venti and Kazuha are 2 5 stars that I've had since day 1. I love both of them so much and have been in almost every single abyss run for either side. I have c1 on both so I LOVE them a lot lol. Both are super useful and with Venti working when he does, he trivializes most content
Venti has been my fave character since 1.0, yet I would tell new players, or players without him or Kazuha, that Kazuha is universal, therefore a better choice. Venti is still powerful, and does a lot of damage. But he depends too much on his burst working properly - grouping enemies.
I pulled for Venti just yesterday, I was supposed to be saving for Yelan but the abyss chamber 11 - floor 1 was giving me a headache so I caved in. I can say that I don't regret it one bit and happy to have him in such a long time.
Zy0x comin in hard with the Kazuha claims. Been waiting for someone big to bring the community down a peg on the "Kazu is must pull" hype. He's definitely still a great character to have, but the only real must pull in the game rn is the Pyro Archon Bennett. Mr. Zy0x Definitely my Strimmer
because sucrose is slightly different from kazuha... for an on field anemo driver in reaction teams... like taser and sukokomon... venti and kazuha can't cut it... in this area sucrose is the best..
@@thewackykid the only Sucrose powercreep is a 5 star anemo catalyst. Anemo NA's are just so good since swirl is too OP. C6 Kazuha is acceptable but thats whale territory
Just pull both 🤷 In all seriousness though, I remember when Kazuha banner came up and my only limited 5 stars were Venti and Zhongli, and everyone told me I didn't need Kazuha. But I caught myself thinking: I often wished I had 2 Ventis, so if Kazuha is like him, I want him. Best decision I ever made in this game, because today Kazuha is one of the characters I like the most, and he works much better with some of the other characters I like to play. Having the flexibility of using one in each chamber made my Genshin experience way more enjoyable.
I have both and I would never miss out my Venti! I enjoy him the same as Kazuha but he made my days way much easier even easier then Kazuha could ever do.
Ikr , it's stupid how a lot of these Venti VS Kazuha videos rarely ever mention Sucrose when she's highly meta . She has both suction and a lot of swirl capabilities with constellations which are of course easily to get as she's a 4*. And she can pull and interrupt things without lifting them up the ground like venti.
i appreciate your vid because you had the confidence to chose between the 2, unlike rest of genshin "VS" videos with "it depends on your...." for a final thought.
I got venti on like 30th pull and even tho I was hoping of losing 50/50 to save guaranteed tor kazuha I'm happy I got venty. Even underleveled he was really useful in spiral abyss But I do hope getting kazuha on rerun, I was one of the rare people that didn't hate on him and wanted him from before he came out but I lost 50/50 on his banner 😔
That is so appreciated Zy0x. I've been debating with myself if I should pull for Kazuha considering I already have Venti. Kazuha is being praised as a must pull by so many people it's hard to keep a clear head on the matter. So Thank you :)
@@freddiem6805 Yeah sure. But even as a Dolphin I can't pull for everyone hahaha! I already want Yelan and Yoimiya. Getting Kazuha too would be pure luck at this point.
Kazuha is always mentioned nowadays in most optimal team comp when new pyro/cryo/hydro/electro DPS units come out, that says ALOT. Though at the end of the day they are used differently and are still better than units that Zy0x never bothered to cover in all his guides.
Absolute facts.... take away bennet and kaz and let's see how well the overrated chars do.... so many chars you'll find seldom in a comp (albedo rosaria yanfei thoma ning starters etc etc) sad thing about meta is it takes away all the spotlight from other chars which are good as well
@@foreverconfusedandkindacute honestly IMO Thoma is underrated, people forgot that he has the 2nd best shield only after Zhongli. Sadly Bennett is just too good that takes his spotlight. I havent really tested it yet but i'm sure a Yoimiya + Thoma + Yunjin team might do as good as Yoi + Zhongli + Bennett team. But ofc a non-NA unit might still prefer Bennett
If you are: A type of player who likes to have fun, is kind of lazy or doesn't like moving around the area but also wants buffs, go for venti. A type of player who likes Bigg pp damage; doesn't care about grouping enemies, while also feeling like an anime character, then go for kazuha. Both are fun to play and have their own disadvantages. Have fun deciding guys.
I think they're both worthwhile, however I think it's highly likely that the upcoming Dendro archon winds up providing alot of the same functionality that Kazuha currently does.
I always wanted Kazuha and Venti. They seem so fun to play around with them, when there were leaks for Kazuha in 2.6 i started saving up for him since zhongli. But Venti tempted me and I pulled, I don't regret it, I love his playstyle. He is so fun to play around and I know i'm going to have even more fun when I get Canadian aether in my rooster
As a player who have both kazuha and venti, my recommendation is to get both of them. But if you are a f2p and you can only get one then Kazuha is much better.
I never find a huge problem with venti's inability to pull huge units because it can be fixed with running around a bit and a taunt ability like Mona or Ganyu
AR56 and Sucrose-less so I'm currently crying in lack of CC 😣 Contemplating spending my guarantee on Venti and just trying to get really lucky and get both him and Kazuha later 🤣 Thanks for the video!
Have both of them, love both of them and cannot choose between them. Both are amazing. I see Venti as more of a support character and Kazuha as a Sub-Dps and that is how I have built them.
Originally I wanted Kazuha and Venti as backup plan, but Mr. bard came sooner and I tried to get him. Then lost 50/50, spent all remaining primos and finally...EHE. And he is good!
Venti was my first 5* on my fist 10 pull back in 1.0, I really didn't gave him the value he deserved back then because I wanted to make a team full of waifus but as soon as I took him out of my team I could FEEL the lack of his presence, he's just that useful in exploration and killing packs of enemies. Never underestimate Venti. Also kinda stupid they didn't made small enemies in inazuma groupable, especially the specters, the most annoying enemies on inazuma IMO. But then it feels they suddenly remembered Venti and made the small enemy fungi in the chasm easily groupable with his Ultimate lol
Venti makes domains so easy for me, I tested my freeze team with Mona kaeya rosaria and venti on a lvl 90 vv domain, while all my characters except venti were lvl 40, with venti being lvl 60, clearing it pretty easily as long as you know how to dodge whenever his cc is not active lol, and dodging in this game is pretty easy anyway although the timing sometimes feels weird because it doesn't really when you dodge right at the moment of impact, unlike other games I've played, you kinda have to dodge before in my experience.
I was a bit conflicted for a while because I wanted both Kazuha and Venti, but I pulled for Venti anyway on my main account since he got his rerun first and he was one of my most wanted characters despite the hate he's been getting. Thankfully I got him on the 50/50, so I might not have to worry about losing out on my chance to get Kazuha when he gets his first rerun! So far Venti's been a great addition to my account. Before I got him, I found it extremely hard to even clear the first chamber of floor 11. This time I managed to clear the entirety of floor 11! Hopefully one day I can clear the entirety of floor 12 as well...
I already have kazuha but I still pulled for venti and have no regrets. ANEMO SUPREMACY I'm going to get Xiao on his second rerun to complete my anemo boys collection
I lost the 50/50 on Ayato’s banner and as I was watching this video I decided to pull on Venti. I was only 17 wishes past my last 5* and I managed to pull Venti. 😵💫 thanks i guess
For efficient domain farming, 90% of the time you'd prefer to have Venti who can just group everything and slay within like 20 seconds. Saves a lot of time in the long run. But yeah eventually I think having both on your account will be a lot better than just either one. I've been playing since the start of genshin so I have both, and they're regulars in my abyss teams. Also it's generally the case that if boss enemies are present on one side of the abyss, the other will have mobs. So kazuha goes on the boss side and Venti mops up the other. Both very valuable IMO
I want to pull for kazuha because he's so cool lol, and I know I'll regret it if I don't pull for him. My teams are pretty strong and I don't care too much about abyss, so it's mostly all about the characters I like
im literally on 60 pity and i was determined to save it for ayaka BUT I REALLY WANT VENTIIIII i've been wanting him since his first rerun and now is the only archon missing. i also know im going to have so much fun with him. but my account is in DIRE need of cryo dps. and i know how cracked ayaka is. im so torn gah
Tldr Venti in multi target scenarios and kazuha in single target target scenarios. That's at least my opinion, although kazuha also deals a lot of DMG against multiple enemies.
since i just recently got sucrose while wishing for venti and ayato, for the longest time kazuha had been my only anemo crowd control character to rely on. it's definitely an added bonus to be able to have crowd control on both halves of the abyss. as an anemo supremacist, i plan on getting my triple-crowned kazuha from c0 to c2 during his rerun because he's just that valuable and i'm definitely not shy of the idea of double-crowning my new venti. i mostly pulled for him just cause i like him as a character, but you don't realize how valuable venti is in combat until you use him
Kazuha is a much better pick in my opinion, his playstyle is much more meta with his swirls and dmg boosts, venti's burst is better in some scenarios however kazuha is a jack of all trades, cant wait for his rerun
if youre running ayaka freeze and wondering if u need venti or kazuha, if your ER is enough without venti, then get kazuha. but if your damage is enough without kazuha, get venti
I have love how kazuha's E & Q works since i already have him since his first release even tho i got him in 81 or 82 pity in one day before his banner will be gone but me as an f2p his domain is easy because of the enemies but the artifact to get his 4 piece vira set is a struggle because sometimes it gives more maiden's beloved than vira set i am happy to that i got raiden with her first release last year and got her as f2p and my pity is at 72 pity in that day and i am happy too i recently got hutao in her rerun banner last yr even tho i lost to jean but got hu tao after doing sayu in 10 pull and got her in 1 wish using starglitter exchange and goodluck to those who will save kazuha if his first rerun annouce
honestly kazuha and venti are both some of the most fun and satisfying characters to use lmao anemo impact is real
*also i wanna emphasize that kazuha can also do REALLY well against elemental shields like abyss lectors/heralds, if i didnt make that clear in the video.
& side note: venti's burst can refund 15 energy which is nice in some teams with high energy bursts (ex. freeze), while kazuha can run a fav sword as a good option for giving your team energy.
i agree mr.socks
MiHoYo : Fuck this guy lowering our money by makin video
you forgot to mention that venti refund 15 energy which is very valuable
HEY Zy
I got the elegy from hutao weapon banner as i lost the homa
Should i get venti as he will displace and buff or Just wait for kazuha but i just got the iron sting for Him?
"Kazuha is suspected to get a rerun in the near future" mr socks how do you know that? how did you come across such information?🤨 i don't recall mihoyo announcing such information.
Even though I had kazuha, I still pulled for venti since I liked him so much. Both are so great and it’s great to put one on each team of the abyss
same! i already had kazuha but still pulled for venti so i can put them on each team for the abyss. also bcos i wanted venti ever since i started playing genshin.
I'm gonna do the same but the other way around. I have venti, but I'm definitely planning on pulling for kazuha whenever his rerun comes. anemo just too op for abyss
Hyacinth no worries maybe his next rerun you could snatch him
Vice versa for me. I have Venti and no regrets but I still will pull for Kazuha just cuz anemo characters are just fun to me
F Kazuha
Me and my homies hate Kazuha
a summary of anemo roles
kazuha: succ + dmg
venti: succ + energy
sucrose: succ + EM
jean: succ + heal
sayu: roll + heal
xiao: kill
Sucrose: succ + EM + attack + dmg + driver
Hotel: trivago
Xiao is also CC. Can't believe you missed that
Jean is more of a push than succ
But venti full em deals fk ton of damage (with swirl of course)
Having a 5 star anemo support really is a game changer for your account. I had a hard time 9 starring this abyss on my main acc because I have no 5 star anemo support(sucrose is under leveled and I have no cryo character built). But on my alt acc I 9 starred it first try with raiden national and Ayaka Venti.
My support xiao is slapping 😎
For me because I never really used my Anemo characters as supports I normally play the abyss without them, except if I really really need sucrose for grouping and in that scenario, my sucrose is rocking a DPS build lol
there are some 4 stars that can out dps 5 stars .. sucrose can def do that, xangling too. bennett is pretty much 5 star if you never touch his c6.. keep .him.at.c5, dont be like me... KEEP HIM AT C5!!!
@@Honed- i C6'd my Bennett 2 days ago to buff my Hutao. not beneficial to my Eula but she is a burst bot anyway. Paired with Raiden my eula doesn't need to do much normal attack dmg
Agree. I only managed to clear the higher abyss floors after getting kazuha. Although ofc kazuha was my first 5* character...
You forgot to mention how good Venti is with Ayaka because of the energy refund from his ult. Pair that with Amenoma and another cryo unit and you literally need 0 energy recharge on Ayaka so you can build her with as much dmg as possible (saying this because Ayaya's rerun is the next banner)
Either a cryo battery or amenoma is enough. I run her with sacrificial chongyun and Venti and I don't even have his second passive unlocked yet. And still I can cast her burst off cooldown.
Just give kazuha fav sword or sac sword and you can still have around 800em.
yeah thats a fair point -- although kazuha's elemental damage buff is extremely powerful for freeze/ayaka teams so honestly both can be great options in their own way
if you run amenoma, you don't even need to energy refund
Ayaka is my main, I run Xing/Mona Bennet Aya Raiden/Shenhe. It's dumb dmg
Honestly, as an f2p who already had kazuha, I just got Venti and understood that to end the discussion of which is better, I actually needed both
This is the way
@@unicahija720 As a wise man once said "Gotta catch em all" but in the case of jenshin, "Just pull for all of them" lmfao
One anemo boy for each hole
Imagine me actually having both. I don't even have Sucrose at Ar55 and I'm 8k Exp away from ar 56.
@@haosru That's because people isn't having fun for playing the game anymore, they find more entertaiment making wars, comparations, and shitting each others, and imposing their arrogant way of think, we can see this with childe and ayato.
It never was about fun or meta, it's all about who is right and who's not, there're few people who is really balance about this.
Having both of them is such a good investment now that the current abyss makes CC an advantage.
Yup
Having both of them makes you God of CC on both Sides
Unfortunately the next abyss version is filled with bosses and enemies which hardly can be sucked by venti
@@septianrico4141 Abyss leaked?
@@desertdust777 lol venti and ayaka both got destroyed in this abyss with all the heavy/cryo enemes. shameless hoyo 💀
Quick side note: ventis Energie refund also can be really valuable. I'm playing Morgana (with ganyu) and without Venti, but with sucrose instead I constantly find myself not having ganyus ult up on time, even though I have 146 er
good point! will prob add to pinned cmt as bonus info, its a good passive for some teams for sure
yeah, sucrose simply cannot fill venti's shoes, so I have to use a custom rotation
Venti does actually move larger enemies when frozen, so I’d still recommend him for any freeze based teams
Sooooo u saying that
we go to each enemy
Apply hydro and Cryo
Freeze them... Then go back
Then use Venti to group them?
@@anzu755 I generally use xingqiu (sometimes mona), then use shenhe, then venti Q and ayaka
Yeah. I also noticed that. And I still use him on large enemies
Nice seems like I’ll save my primos for Venti instead of Cyno
Well I got kokomi and ayaka
Should I go for venti?
Think Archons are suppose to be niche in one thing. Venti for grouping, Zhongli for shielding, and Raiden for energy.
pretty much, the archons are supposed to be the very best in what the element is supposed to do in general hence the example you gave
@@monokomomo4977 So Pyro archon best dps!?
@@rin7310 nah, best dps buffer
@@monokomomo4977 no not in elements itto is better than zhongli lol but zhongli has strongest shield so not as elements but in their role they r best they r not strong in their element
@@friester I think he meant wind -> push, rock -> solid, and electricity -> energy
Venti can actually pull large enemies, but slowly though, when the enemies are frozen or petrified (via Zhongli burst). So running him with my Morganya (Ayaka Morgana instead of Ganyu) worked wonders for me even for Ruin Guards/Graders and the big Geovishaps.
lmao wtf. if you're not capping then venti is many times more valuable than i thought.
@@blitzvii322 Even in Inazuma before the nerf to enemy weight Venti can still suck enemies when they're frozen.
Easier to abuse if Ganyu is on the team cause of her huge burst AOE. Ganyu + Ayaka + Venti makes the new Ruin enemies a joke.
Everyone: *Arguing if Venti or Kazuha is better*
Me who own them both: "I don't have such weaknesses"
Because "Anemo supremacy"
LMAO that's me
i'm lucky i hav both of my anemo bois
EHE
Super succ
I have both and they both carried my ass in spiral abyss. Anemo impact is indeed real. I love their lore, fashion style, and most of all their playstyle. I can never take them out of my team.
is using them both in the same team a bad idea ?
@@IDKbruh420 For my personal experience, I use them both in the same party in the overworld and it was a glorious experience since I could easily defeat the mobs. In the abyss, they're okay as well in the same team but I'd personally rather separate them so I could conveniently use cc in both teams.
Venti is the only character in the game that I would call truly broken (when he works). If his ult can fully CC an enemy, they're basically Thanos Snapped out of existence.
Venti isn't broken. Venti is actually mid
I'm so glad I pulled Venti on his first rerun as part of my archon collecting mission. I didn't pull for Kazuha back then because I have all anemo unit beside him and I'm not really sure if I need him at that time. Now I definitely pulling, he'll be an amazing addition to my second abyss team (Venti is permanently reserved for my freeze Ganyu)
Morgana goes brr
My favourite part about venti is how even if I run 0 er on my ganyu, she still gets her burst back on cd.
I'm still waiting for Venti to come home so I can play both meltyu and morgana
@@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ I was running Morgana with sucrose as a replacement for venti but I SERIOUSLY underestimated how much of a difference venti makes. I use Kokomi and Rosaria with ganyu and venti and my abyss times got sooooo much faster.
Big difference too is that Kazuha reruns seems much more slower since it seems that all Archons will have more frequent reruns given their importance in the story.
I like Kazuha cause he makes me feel things that I've never felt before.
bruh
I thought you of all people would understand me Mr. Naruto.
ayo?
Same
bro? 📸🤨
*Venti is amazing. Even if you accidentally get Venti, you won’t regret it.*
I lost 50/50 to Jean on Venti banner😭😭😭
I regret it a lot, I wish I could transfer him from my account
@@tscolicious lol
i actually got venti on early pity,dont have to worry about climbing now
I got him yesterday after just 7 wishes!!!! I was truly blessed by the Anemo God.
All anemo cc are valuable in the game (sucrose, kazuha and venti). It's game changing to have at least 2 of them as they'll make your account better.
I'm looking for the next anemo option, we just got sayu after kazuha, almost one year
@@pontoancora let's see...Anemo dps? Check. Anemo buffer? Check. Anemo CC? Check. Anemo healer? Check. I wonder what's next?
@@Unforgiving_Eye anemo shielder lol
@@michaeladam1096 oh yeah 😂👍
@@michaeladam1096 Playable Fatui Anemoboxer confirmed???? 😮😮😮
For anyone who's uncertain and on the edge on what they should do here's my backstory. I hope i can help someone; I got Venti. I was in the middle of pre-farming for Kazuha. I had to buy Crystals to get him (50€) but i'll explain why.
So i was guaranteed after i got the Shogun in her last Banner since Diluc showed up shortly after her, which was lucky for me.
Then i wanted to skip everything until Kazuha and save, but i said f*ck it. He's still far away, leaks suggest 2.8.
But now i only had like 20 pulls for Venti and all of my Character's always come very late around 70 Pity...
I bought the 50€ pack and that hurt me. I normally only get Welkin and BP. Luckily i still had the x2 bonus since i never buy Genesis Crystals. He came at wish 70 something.
I don't regret it one bit tho. Venti is a lot of fun in Domains and the Overworld. He's truly game changing, at least for me.
Also, i finally got my first Sucrose and even her C1! I wanted her all this time. I'm AR56 and i can finally play around with Anemo Reactions and Swirling Elements around and I'm having so much fun. This is only a glimpse of what Kazuha is going to be and I'm getting way more excited for him now. I don't even have that great of a VV Artifact Set for both of them. In fact barely anything.
But i own 2 Elegy Bows, i refined it. I got them both in the last Hutao rerun because Staff of Homa came very late after loosing 2x Pity's which was really heartbreaking. Looking back at it now that miserable Weapon Banner was actually working in my favor...🤘
Characters like Venti are just always nice to have and future proof in some way or form whether it be in Domains or the Overworld. Sumeru is close too and who knows how that'll be.
He could become very relevant again and people might regret not going for him now.
In fact he's still is relevant, it just depends on what you do. I'm often farming Talent Books or stuff like that so he's perfect for me. He excels in certain content and every Character is that way. Kazuha has his ups and downs too.
That Venti works in certain Abyss Rotations is just a bonus. I don't get Characters because of Abyss, but that's just me.
With that being said, i don't regret using a bit of my Money & my guaranteed for him. Of course some People can't just spend 50 bucks, and they shouldn't, even if they do and they're not guaranteed they might just get a Qiqi or something. But i suggest anyone to get Venti either way if they can and if they don't have him. Also, collecting all Archons... :)
Man I definitely didnt just scroll down and say i read it all
Two of my favorite pulls, Kazuha actually ended up being my overal favorite character in the whole game. I even lucked out on his C1, pairing that with Sac he's basically my main carry in open world where the dps more than suffices, and it actually seems good in some quickswaps, though Thundering Fury is also an option for EC. A lot of people use Xiangling, Bennett, Kazuha and then usually Venti, maybe like a Fischl (Sayu for Blizzard domain speedruns etc.), Sac + C1 makes that one of my favorite comps as someone who loves having Kazuha on-field a lot, also very fun in messy overvape-swirl teams, but doesn't work well when it eats valuable field-time and/or eats important reactions.
Pulling Venti (after skipping his 1st and rerun banner) made my spiral abyss run so much smoother and easier. I don't have Kazuha but I may go for him on the rerun anyways.
Pull for both, both are amazing and only slightly differ from each other, having 2 characters on separate teams that are the best at cc is amazing
I still want Venti because he's an Archon. I already have Raiden and Zhongli so I don't want Venti to be left out of the team
I’ve had Venti since his first rerun but I’m also gonna pull for Kazuha. I’d imagine Kazuha would generally fit into more teams and more abyss setups, but Venti can be such a beast when the situation favors him. Can’t wait to have Venti and Kazuha for each half of abyss (I don’t like using Sucrose, and other anemo units aren’t really for CC).
I pulled Venti randomly and got him within 20 pulls after winning 50/50 on Ayato. I'm still going to pull for Kazuha.
Same here lol
I'm just glad Venti & Kazuha aren't one the same dual banner or on the same patch release giving an opportunity to save.
Wtffffff
Very good point on Sucrose' existence bringing down the 'necessity' of Kazuha. Not too many people mention that.
I'm gonna pull for him cos I got his weapon during Eula re-run. But.. Let's see how I feel by the time he gets here.
When kazuha first came out people literally called him five star or expensive sucrose. Definitely lots of people mentioned it.
My hot take: people overrate Kazuha so much to the point they forgot about Sucrose' existence. Kazuha is obviously better and 100% worth your primos but Sucrose can still get the job done. Its like saying "You need Ganyu/Ayaka to clear 12-3-2" while forgetting the fact that Rosaria, Kaeya & Chongyun exists
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 exactly... people make him way too necessary than he actually is... yes he's an amazing unit and you can pull for him if you like him but he isn't a must pull for me, besides this game will likely last for about 7 years so who's to say that a character better than kazuha won't come out in that time
just pull for him if you like his character, playstyle or his utility... don't pull just because he's meta
@@DhrithionVocals agree. I ended up skip Kazuha in his next rerun later and pulled Venti because I main ranged character, both in exploration and abyss. I choose someone who brings comfort in team rotation rather than meta but clunky to use in team rotation
I personally don't see myself wishing for kazuha since I built sucrose (yes I got her low ar and built her) she's awesome and it works, in the other hand I want to wish for venti, since the trial it makes me really wanna wish for him, I hope I win 50-50.
I just rolled Venti and I've had Kazuha since day 1 and my account is so comfortable with these two. I usually have Kazuha on my vaporize teams and Venti on freeze teams
I recently got venti and now my Morgana team is finally complete. I will also save for Kazuha and will definitely pull for him to support my Xiao. I believe he is gonna get a rerun in 2.8 I guess so there's more time to save. Anyway thanks for this guide man I always love your content.
Kazuha can't support Xiao though, because Kazuha doesn't buff anemo or Geo or physical damage bonus because he can't swirl these. You are better of getting Albedo for Xiao and Zhongli if you already haven't yet.
Kazuha isn't the best support for Xiao if you want energy particles. Jean or Sucrose are the better picks for another anemo
@@Ivy-jq6di I agree. Xiao is probably the worst dps to pair Kazuha with, alongside Itto
I use Xiao Kazuha Albedo Bennett Team and destroy everything lol
Venti and Kazuha are 2 5 stars that I've had since day 1.
I love both of them so much and have been in almost every single abyss run for either side. I have c1 on both so I LOVE them a lot lol.
Both are super useful and with Venti working when he does, he trivializes most content
Nobody:
Zy0x (venti’s voice actor) : kokodayo
I just got Venti some hours ago ang he's now lvl 80. He's really fun to use! It's fun to see enemies just bounce nonstop and drop loot.
Venti has been my fave character since 1.0, yet I would tell new players, or players without him or Kazuha, that Kazuha is universal, therefore a better choice. Venti is still powerful, and does a lot of damage. But he depends too much on his burst working properly - grouping enemies.
Kazuha is universal for elemental teams only
@@whydidntyoucomeforlesson pls help venti or kazuha for ayaka
@@ittodakimasu4814 venti
@@iceorangutanKazuha way better
@@ittodakimasu4814 that’s difficult cuz both works for ayaka LOL
I pulled for Venti just yesterday, I was supposed to be saving for Yelan but the abyss chamber 11 - floor 1 was giving me a headache so I caved in. I can say that I don't regret it one bit and happy to have him in such a long time.
The Abyss is a banner advertisement
Addendum though, if you give Venti Elegy for the End, he actually does buff your team with 100 EM And 20% ATK instead of just only providing VV bonus.
Zy0x comin in hard with the Kazuha claims. Been waiting for someone big to bring the community down a peg on the "Kazu is must pull" hype. He's definitely still a great character to have, but the only real must pull in the game rn is the Pyro Archon Bennett.
Mr. Zy0x Definitely my Strimmer
He's coming now and the hype is REAL 🔥
Fun fact Venti can actually very slowly pull in Ruin guards and cruisers when they're frozen
With freeze, only rifthounds and specters aren't effected, bosses too
@@serulu3490 yep
yes!!!! omg i run a freeze team sometimes and the ult pulls in frozen big enemiesss
I have venti since his first banner and finally I got his weapon this morning ! He’s just so fun to play and he’s never leaving my team :)
I pulled for both, sometimes I just need 2 characters in seperate teams who can group up mobs in Abyss. Sucrose just isn't as good as either.
because sucrose is slightly different from kazuha... for an on field anemo driver in reaction teams... like taser and sukokomon... venti and kazuha can't cut it... in this area sucrose is the best..
@@thewackykid the only Sucrose powercreep is a 5 star anemo catalyst. Anemo NA's are just so good since swirl is too OP. C6 Kazuha is acceptable but thats whale territory
@@sallyhope2137 yup! It should be 5* anemo catalyst that scales with EM or with very good NA multipliers.
@@paolocarreon8329 i recently got c4 sucrose and tried taser sucrose and honestly, it's pretty fun ngl.
@@Unforgiving_Eye nice! C4 Sucrose is perfect for taser!
Just pull both 🤷
In all seriousness though, I remember when Kazuha banner came up and my only limited 5 stars were Venti and Zhongli, and everyone told me I didn't need Kazuha. But I caught myself thinking: I often wished I had 2 Ventis, so if Kazuha is like him, I want him. Best decision I ever made in this game, because today Kazuha is one of the characters I like the most, and he works much better with some of the other characters I like to play. Having the flexibility of using one in each chamber made my Genshin experience way more enjoyable.
thanks man, love your vids and your pogo moments on streams
Me farming for VV without Venti: Usually goes 2 mins Max
Me farming for VV with Venti: 25 Seconds is the Fastest i've Hit in that domain
I still don't have both 5* anemo bois but even with just sucrose's burst and 1-2 charge attacks from ganyu, the domain becomes a joke xD
yup that domain is a big joke with venti. that's why I didn't bother pre-farming it before I got him
I remember getting 59s without venti i used eula!
@@levibest2409 well, the 75% phys dmg boost is always helpful to eula
You bring up a lot of points that other videos on this topic tend to ignore. Thanks for the hard work analyzing!
Venti with a freeze team comp is so good.
Freeze teams are boring anyway
@@KYSNYAN *OMG BASED*
@@justadragonnamemarcus1751 correction:Geo teams.
@@feiht5487 😭 the fact is true it's painful
I need to note that Venti can CC some enemies that can’t be usually moved like ruin machines, he can when they are frozen but very slightly.
I have both and I would never miss out my Venti! I enjoy him the same as Kazuha but he made my days way much easier even easier then Kazuha could ever do.
Oh yeah! I've been waiting for this! Thanks Zy0x!
Sucrose unironically deserves to be considered if not already, she's great
Ikr , it's stupid how a lot of these Venti VS Kazuha videos rarely ever mention Sucrose when she's highly meta .
She has both suction and a lot of swirl capabilities with constellations which are of course easily to get as she's a 4*.
And she can pull and interrupt things without lifting them up the ground like venti.
Sucrose is getting crowned once I get the mats She's been with me since I 1st started playing
i appreciate your vid because you had the confidence to chose between the 2, unlike rest of genshin "VS" videos with "it depends on your...." for a final thought.
I got venti on like 30th pull and even tho I was hoping of losing 50/50 to save guaranteed tor kazuha I'm happy I got venty. Even underleveled he was really useful in spiral abyss
But I do hope getting kazuha on rerun, I was one of the rare people that didn't hate on him and wanted him from before he came out but I lost 50/50 on his banner 😔
That is so appreciated Zy0x. I've been debating with myself if I should pull for Kazuha considering I already have Venti. Kazuha is being praised as a must pull by so many people it's hard to keep a clear head on the matter. So Thank you :)
They are very different so you can have both and both will be very valuable
@@freddiem6805 Yeah sure. But even as a Dolphin I can't pull for everyone hahaha! I already want Yelan and Yoimiya. Getting Kazuha too would be pure luck at this point.
Even tho I have C6 Sucrose, I find it hard to swirl correctly so I'll pull for Kazuha since I find it cool to play him.
thankyou for putting ur entire f2p zyussy into this video my kind favourite strimmer
Kazuha is always mentioned nowadays in most optimal team comp when new pyro/cryo/hydro/electro DPS units come out, that says ALOT. Though at the end of the day they are used differently and are still better than units that Zy0x never bothered to cover in all his guides.
It's just a typical dmg showcase video, just put bennett+kazuha+flex and everyone will call that character(s) good
Absolute facts.... take away bennet and kaz and let's see how well the overrated chars do.... so many chars you'll find seldom in a comp (albedo rosaria yanfei thoma ning starters etc etc) sad thing about meta is it takes away all the spotlight from other chars which are good as well
@@foreverconfusedandkindacute Not disagreeing but Albedo, Rosaria and Ning are popular units aswell
@@foreverconfusedandkindacute honestly IMO Thoma is underrated, people forgot that he has the 2nd best shield only after Zhongli. Sadly Bennett is just too good that takes his spotlight. I havent really tested it yet but i'm sure a Yoimiya + Thoma + Yunjin team might do as good as Yoi + Zhongli + Bennett team. But ofc a non-NA unit might still prefer Bennett
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 fucking cap
Zy0x woke up in the morning and though: 'I want to start a war'
Bruh if the ayato vs childe debate wasn't already enough.
venti is the only character ive C6 and i will never regret it, hes amazing!!!
If you are:
A type of player who likes to have fun, is kind of lazy or doesn't like moving around the area but also wants buffs, go for venti.
A type of player who likes Bigg pp damage; doesn't care about grouping enemies, while also feeling like an anime character, then go for kazuha.
Both are fun to play and have their own disadvantages. Have fun deciding guys.
I think they're both worthwhile, however I think it's highly likely that the upcoming Dendro archon winds up providing alot of the same functionality that Kazuha currently does.
Don’t trust leak too much. If it turns out to be truth, good for you but if it’s a Yae-dps-ceiling-for-electro thing, you will be disappointed.
I always wanted Kazuha and Venti. They seem so fun to play around with them, when there were leaks for Kazuha in 2.6 i started saving up for him since zhongli. But Venti tempted me and I pulled, I don't regret it, I love his playstyle. He is so fun to play around and I know i'm going to have even more fun when I get Canadian aether in my rooster
I'll always pull anemo characters. They're by far my most favourite and versatile characters in the game.
Ah been waiting for this kind of video
As a player who have both kazuha and venti, my recommendation is to get both of them. But if you are a f2p and you can only get one then Kazuha is much better.
I got venti by luck in 30th pull, should I still get kazuha?
@@rolex5134 id recommend you do but if u wanna pull for someone else, it would be fine since u already have a venti
But if u don't need an anemo buffer, then Venti is much better as a tack-in option
@@JustThinker7 not really, kazuha is amazing without his buffing anyway and hes overall more fun to use
@@slashy6448 Yeah
"Don't use the thing that makes him broken"
Yeeeessss. I’ve been waiting for this. ❤️
I never find a huge problem with venti's inability to pull huge units because it can be fixed with running around a bit and a taunt ability like Mona or Ganyu
AR56 and Sucrose-less so I'm currently crying in lack of CC 😣 Contemplating spending my guarantee on Venti and just trying to get really lucky and get both him and Kazuha later 🤣 Thanks for the video!
Have both of them, love both of them and cannot choose between them. Both are amazing. I see Venti as more of a support character and Kazuha as a Sub-Dps and that is how I have built them.
Honestly, I needed this. With the leaks indicating kazuha coming on 2.8, I was very torn on who to get. Thanks zyox!
Give a warning for leaks
Could you make a teamcomp archetypes video showing the team in their optimized form and with replacements?
Lmao I just got Venti as my first Anemo character a few hours ago and watched your guide on him, thanks for the content !
Originally I wanted Kazuha and Venti as backup plan, but Mr. bard came sooner and I tried to get him. Then lost 50/50, spent all remaining primos and finally...EHE. And he is good!
well we have at least 1,5 month, or maybe even 3 month till Kazuha's rerun so I'd say investing to Venti right now is a right choise.
Venti was my first 5* on my fist 10 pull back in 1.0, I really didn't gave him the value he deserved back then because I wanted to make a team full of waifus but as soon as I took him out of my team I could FEEL the lack of his presence, he's just that useful in exploration and killing packs of enemies. Never underestimate Venti.
Also kinda stupid they didn't made small enemies in inazuma groupable, especially the specters, the most annoying enemies on inazuma IMO. But then it feels they suddenly remembered Venti and made the small enemy fungi in the chasm easily groupable with his Ultimate lol
I'm convinced twitch zy0x is really a different person
Venti or kazuha? I love them both but Venti can have my heart as he’s my comfort character❤️
u mean venti can have my primos
@@swanb5226 basically, i got both of them so no worries for me :3
New Zy0x video about anemos, now I can be happy again * - *
Venti makes domains so easy for me, I tested my freeze team with Mona kaeya rosaria and venti on a lvl 90 vv domain, while all my characters except venti were lvl 40, with venti being lvl 60, clearing it pretty easily as long as you know how to dodge whenever his cc is not active lol, and dodging in this game is pretty easy anyway although the timing sometimes feels weird because it doesn't really when you dodge right at the moment of impact, unlike other games I've played, you kinda have to dodge before in my experience.
I was a bit conflicted for a while because I wanted both Kazuha and Venti, but I pulled for Venti anyway on my main account since he got his rerun first and he was one of my most wanted characters despite the hate he's been getting. Thankfully I got him on the 50/50, so I might not have to worry about losing out on my chance to get Kazuha when he gets his first rerun!
So far Venti's been a great addition to my account. Before I got him, I found it extremely hard to even clear the first chamber of floor 11. This time I managed to clear the entirety of floor 11! Hopefully one day I can clear the entirety of floor 12 as well...
I already have kazuha but I still pulled for venti and have no regrets. ANEMO SUPREMACY I'm going to get Xiao on his second rerun to complete my anemo boys collection
petition to have funky zy0x in guide vids too
I lost the 50/50 on Ayato’s banner and as I was watching this video I decided to pull on Venti. I was only 17 wishes past my last 5* and I managed to pull Venti. 😵💫 thanks i guess
I lost 50/50 to Jean on Venti banner (75 pity) I'm broken 💔💔😭😭😭
man ur guides are so helpful, tnx
With current abyss rotation, Venti went back claiming his throne.
Throne still on kazuha though
@@TheGelieace nope lol
@@vitaaeris yes lol
For efficient domain farming, 90% of the time you'd prefer to have Venti who can just group everything and slay within like 20 seconds. Saves a lot of time in the long run. But yeah eventually I think having both on your account will be a lot better than just either one. I've been playing since the start of genshin so I have both, and they're regulars in my abyss teams. Also it's generally the case that if boss enemies are present on one side of the abyss, the other will have mobs. So kazuha goes on the boss side and Venti mops up the other. Both very valuable IMO
I lost 50/50 to Jean on Venti banner 💔💔😭😭😭
Venti bc he can fly ✊🏻 i love using him for exploration
I want to pull for kazuha because he's so cool lol, and I know I'll regret it if I don't pull for him.
My teams are pretty strong and I don't care too much about abyss, so it's mostly all about the characters I like
thanks for the video!!! it slightly helped my venti/ayato and venti/kazuha dilemma :)))
I like both of them so much...and I have both of them in my party
im literally on 60 pity and i was determined to save it for ayaka BUT I REALLY WANT VENTIIIII i've been wanting him since his first rerun and now is the only archon missing. i also know im going to have so much fun with him. but my account is in DIRE need of cryo dps. and i know how cracked ayaka is. im so torn gah
Ayo but can Kazuha can do this? ‘ Kokodayo’. NO, HE CAN'T.
Great vídeo 🍎😍 thank uuu so much
Tldr Venti in multi target scenarios and kazuha in single target target scenarios. That's at least my opinion, although kazuha also deals a lot of DMG against multiple enemies.
since i just recently got sucrose while wishing for venti and ayato, for the longest time kazuha had been my only anemo crowd control character to rely on. it's definitely an added bonus to be able to have crowd control on both halves of the abyss. as an anemo supremacist, i plan on getting my triple-crowned kazuha from c0 to c2 during his rerun because he's just that valuable and i'm definitely not shy of the idea of double-crowning my new venti. i mostly pulled for him just cause i like him as a character, but you don't realize how valuable venti is in combat until you use him
idk why people are comparing Venti over Kazuha. They do or offer different things and Sucrose is a sidegrade to Kazuha.
Welcome to the Internet. The League of Legends meta is way worse.
@@dragunityx12 Estas segura?
kazuha - universal
venti - specific but when he is needed he nails it
Kazuha is a much better pick in my opinion, his playstyle is much more meta with his swirls and dmg boosts, venti's burst is better in some scenarios however kazuha is a jack of all trades, cant wait for his rerun
if youre running ayaka freeze and wondering if u need venti or kazuha, if your ER is enough without venti, then get kazuha. but if your damage is enough without kazuha, get venti
staying strong for kazuha 🙏
everyone: venti vs kazuha
me: just pull for the one that u prefer-
I have love how kazuha's E & Q works since i already have him since his first release even tho i got him in 81 or 82 pity in one day before his banner will be gone but me as an f2p his domain is easy because of the enemies but the artifact to get his 4 piece vira set is a struggle because sometimes it gives more maiden's beloved than vira set i am happy to that i got raiden with her first release last year and got her as f2p and my pity is at 72 pity in that day and i am happy too i recently got hutao in her rerun banner last yr even tho i lost to jean but got hu tao after doing sayu in 10 pull and got her in 1 wish using starglitter exchange and goodluck to those who will save kazuha if his first rerun annouce