Informative video. Looking at both mkc models mentioned. Currently have a white river m1 with paracord handle. Use for skinng and butchering game and gutting fish. The paracord does gets messy but just undo the cord soak it warm water and soap for 15 minutes, let cord dry, rewarp knife. People say there are "better, cheaper alternatives" but have yet come across any company names. Mkc knives are "pay once, cry once". They seem they will last a lifetime, as long as you dont lose the knife 🤣
I absolutely agree!! They charge way too much for such a little blade. It’s absolutely ridiculous. And honestly there are much better knife friends out there that will give you way more blade for a whole hell of a lot less of a price tag!!
Congrats on getting your hunting license! My friends and I do a mentor hunt every year to give people an opportunity to get into hunting. It’s always a little funny to see what knives guys bring, it’s usually either something like a brand new KaBar USMC fighting knife or a Swiss Army knife, so they get a crash course in hunting knives. The sweet spot for a one size fits most is a bird and trout knife for small-medium game, and a 3-5” drop point with thin geometry. You can go up to 7” for a big game skinner but the greenhorns aren’t going to take any game bigger than a white tail normally.
Thanks Aaron for the review; I think that paracord soaked with fish guts would be much harder to clean than that plastic and steel folder; just my experience with getting rid of fish smell.
It’s actually not too hard to clean the paracord. I used my Speedgoat on an elk hunt this year and it got covered in blood and hair. I just cleaned it with hot soapy water and it is fine now. No smell or anything remaining. And it’s easy to rewrap the handle if you feel the need. They have a video on RUclips showing you how. Or you can send it back and they will resharpen and rewrap it for you free of charge.
True, that is why I use spyderco salt for these dirty tasks. My particular one is the Stretch 2 XL salt in H2, they have coated hardwear, no liners, not even washers! I think it stays cleaner even better than many fixed blades, on which liquid may collect under scales.
@@Laurarium It takes all of 3 minutes. I assume that if you own any firearms, they never get shot. Because cleaning them afterwards is too troublesome, right?
Over priced and federally funded marketing shoots these knives into huge popularity but the reality is there are much better options as we see. Great video
I recently bought 2 MKC knives, the stonewall skinner and the speedgoat 2.0. Out of the box I was very impressed with both knives! They both feel sturdy and well built. The price is a lot, but the quality matches the price point. Would absolutely recommend MKC Knives! Great review as always!
I love the Stonewall skinner. Not quite a Nessmuk, but hints of that style, which is my preferred skinner blade shape since I use the hides and don't want to poke any holes. Only skinned one buck with it, but man it was nice not having to stop and touch up the blade half way through like my last skinner I tried.
I've already invested in three Izula's and one Izula 2. Admittedly skinning game isn't something I do any longer or the blade shape looks terrific for this. I do a lot of hiking, but am happy with my Izula's and their lights attached to their sheaths. Another great review.
I’ll give them this, their marketing department does an outstanding job. At the end of the day they’re skeletonized premium steel knives that I don’t think warrants the price. Hell, they’re even smart enough to save on the lack of scales too.
Nice review! I use the Mini-Speedgoat (1 ounce) as my EDC straight blade. Love the thin blade and the durability of the knife. For general use, hunting & food prep great. For extended bush crafting, I’d use one of my Joker knives.
Add G10 and magnacut and you've basically got the Stonewall skinner. It's very close, only an inch or less bigger. And adding in the scales and magnacut would put it at over $300. I think I paid $325 for the Stonewall. And yes, it's worth it. Everyone keeps complaining about the price with zero perspective. Magnacut, top of the line sheaths, perfect heat treatment, and from a small business in the USA - We're not talking mass produced like ESEE or Tops (and Tops can get to those prices where you don't get what you pay for). Everyone just wants something for nothing because their short bus brains can't forest for the trees.
Its a case of less is more. They realized there was a market for a really thin and slicey blade for field dressing that was also light weight. So, while people make comments that it doesnt seem worth the money, you are kind of right, until you go looking for an alternative knife that is 0.10 thick from magnacut and a couple of ounces. If the paracord or mirror shine are non starters for you, take a look at the Jackstone. Its been my go to field dresser. Only slightly thicker at 0.118, great shape G10, and washed finish. Thing is a laser beam. Yes, i hated that it was $300, but finds its way onto every hunt.
Really like the Stoned Goat. Tip for those wanting to keep the paracord but want a better grip (maybe inspiration for MKC) - there are paracord wrapping techniques that give the handle a bit more girth and traction. Have a look here on YT for knife, ax or sheath paracord wraps.
G'day Aaron, what I like here is that there's a top notch stainless and a top notch carbon tool steel to choose from. Cant say I'm a fan of para wraped handles though, .... should you need the cordage you compromise the tool. I dont think there's anything wrong with the blade designs themselves, but cant really think of an application where they'd replace something I already have; fishing maybe, but then the parawrap will undoubtedly trap/soak up blood and other fluids. I'd suggest; if they're popular as is, ....... whack a proper set of scales on and see what happens ; ) Cheers Duke.
Montanna knife makes more knifes with g10 than with paracord there magnacut blackfoot is insane and i also picked up a magnacut supercub about a 5 inch knife both in g10 The precision and craftsmanship on Montana knifes is top noch If you want to get the knife of your choice you literally have to follow there drops and buy either first 15 Min or there gone they sell out sooo quick and they sell out of every knife super quick they sell 3 piece 1000$ plus chef knife sets and thre gonee in hours sonits not just there most popular stuff anything in magmacut is usually out of stalk may be able to find the 52100’stocked consistently
It wouldn't be that hard for them to drill a couple of holes in the handle and offer the option of either Micarta or G10 scales. Just not a fan of paracord wrapped handles. Otherwise I can see a niche market for these knives.
I was interested and followed drops a little while but handle wrapped in paracord was a no go for me. I like thin edge with ffg so bought multiple Survive knives edc4. Wonderful handles and kydex sheaths. I can use it all day and the price is about the same. I think they are available to buy on website or will be soon. I don’t work for them or get anything from them, just very satisfied customer.
Hey Aaron, I need some help. I've employed those on Bladeforums with their opinion on this topic and they have offered some great options. These two blades look awesome and could be contenders but price is the main factor. So here's the dilemma. I'm looking for a dedicated food prep knife for the camp that is inexpensive ($55 or less), 4", flat ground drop point with wide belly, in stainless steel so I don't really have to maintain it, easy to clean and sharpen, compact enough to throw in my pack and preferably made in usa. I just realized that most of my fixed blades are 1095, 5160 and one thick Buck 650 Nighthawk in 425M and 420HC. I have gone through so many avenues looking for this blade! I have narrowed it down to the Kabar Snody Big Boss in S35VN, Kabar Forged Wrench knife in 425 (only 3" blade) or the Buck Selkirk. The Buck Selkirk would look to be the perfect blade for this in price but it's made in china and doesn't have the Bos heat treat. Are there any others you might think of with these parameters?
Schwartz confidante would’ve been a good comparison. I have stoned goat for hunting and was considering the confidante since it’s got more belly and g10 handle, thicker stock.
I laughed when you had to reinforce about the knives not being used as a screwdriver lol. Especially considering the geometry. Unfortunately some knife users are drongos😅 Hate to think what we'll get charged for these knives here in NZ
But you probably have a $1k iphone that you'll trade in 2 years right? If you're cheap or poor and don't know shit about knives, it's ok to just say that instead.
Aaron, greetings from the border of Boulder and Larimer counties. If you have any questions on getting into Colorado hunting it would be my pleasure. Could also show you some good public land areas on the Front Range. Over the years you've been a stalwart guide to me for gear, I'd like to return the favor!
You can still get magnacut, thin and slicy, with finished scales for the same or lower price from several makers. Beats fishgut smelly paracord hands down. (Regardless of what MKC says)
Ok, I get what you're saying about the price. I still think they're a little overpriced, as was the gallon of milk I bought this morning. I guess I don't care so much about new designs, but would rather see more options in blade steel and scales for the great knives they already have. I don't get to see knives unless I buy them and that's a lot of money to drop on a hope and a prayer. I have a drawer full of those. As far as the short bus mentality goes I didn't get through school, taught myself to read in my late teens cause no one else could and spent all my time working, hunting, fishing, and trapping. It took me an hour just to type this😊
Ever going to review the LT Wright Northern Hunter knives? They look like great ones. Thanks for this one they have seemed interesting to me, but just way too much.
There's a million less expensive options, but that's not what the video is about is it? If you want cheap, close any video that says magnacut. MKC's barely heavier knives that have real handles are much better, IMO.
@@Swearengen1980 if you don't like less expensive options comments, then you don't have to read them. Not everybody has the money to drop on something like this. This thing is very expensive, even for higher end knives.
@@thomasmaloney843 Wrong. This is on par with high end knives. There are many lesser quality knives plus shit sheaths, that are more expensive than this. And yes, I do have to read them, otherwise I wouldn't know what the comment about. What you should have said was, "you didn't have to comment". Now I see why $200 is considered "very expensive" to you; short bus here didn't succeed in life.
@@thomasmaloney843 Sorry sport, I'm just not cheap and would rather buy an heirloom piece instead of mediocrity. Sure, I have a good engineering job and make decent money, but I'd wager my IQ and common sense are well beyond yours, who clearly lacks critical and rational thinking skills. By your same logic, anyone with brains shouldn't have a house bigger than 500 SF, because anything more is just conspicuous consumption right? Hope you're not typing from a smart phone, either...more conspicuous consumption. Maybe you do live in a tiny box with a flip phone, in which I'll simply point out you're jealous that some of us have succeeded in life to where we can buy superior products without breaking the bank. It's laughably to absurd to offer up a $30 blade as being a near equal alternative to magnacut.
String wrapped handles seem like they'd get very gross in normal use. $200 for a sharp piece of metal seems kind of steep. I have other knives that I've paid about that for, but I wouldn't spend that for one of these.
"String". "Sharp piece of metal". Sounds like you're a collector who doesn't know shit about blade steel, heat treatment, consider the sheath that comes with it, or.....probably even used a knife in any meaningful way.
@@Swearengen1980 That's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. Clean a deer with that knife and then get back to me. And good luck getting hog fat out of that material. Even if you just whittle sticks all day with it, it's going to get sweaty, dirty and smelly. Rather than a personal attack, perhaps you could argue otherwise with actual facts or reasons why a string handle on a $200 knife is the best idea since sliced bread? What's this knife actually good for? A nice display knife should have a nice handle, and a working blade should have a practical one. It may be great steel, but the cord wrap makes no sense for use in the real world. As it is, it's just a fancy shank. If I was a collector, I probably would swoon over the steel, and end of story. I might not care about how practical the handle seems for actual use, because it would stay pristine. It's either a working knife, or a display knife. Pick one. Right now it doesn't seem to be either, it's just something to impress one's friends with.
@@yellowdog762jb I was just speaking to your verbiage, I never said paracord was a good thing. It's meant as an EDC or for hikers who want to shed ounces, hence the no scales. That's the entire point. I hate skeletonized/wrapped handles anyway, it's too small, so I'd never use it. But guess what...it's paracord. You can unwrap it, wash it, and rewarp it. They even have a video showing how. I don't have to justify the knife, they do it on their own if you watch their videos. You're judging it's use and purpose and value out of ignorance and a short review from a RUclipsr. They don't advertise this as a hunting knife, it's just capable of it. They advertise this for hikers and EDC for those who want to shed weight and still have a fixed magnacut. It's a specific demographic. If you don't like paracord, they have other options with G10. So yes, I'll criticize you for speaking out of ignorance, thinking you know all about the knives, their purpose, etc. when you all you did was make incorrect assumptions.
There's no reason to attack others with such vitriol for simply expressing an opinion that differs from yours. Paracord wrapped handles are less than optimal for a work knife in my opinion. They seem more reminiscent of one likely to be featured in a Ramdo movie. EDC means Every Day Carry, and that implies frequent use. And they are going to get grimy if used daily. For that price it is my opinion that they should have better handles. Better as in nicer looking, ergonomic, and/or easier to keep clean. "...when you (sic) all you did was make incorrect assumptions." You are the one that is making assumptions and judgements about others by calling them simple collectors and making judgements about their experience with knives. You also said someone else was acting like a child for not wanting to bother with disassembling the handle, washing it and rewrapping it. If you wish to do that, that's perfectly okay with me. That person chooses not to do so, and I agree with him. It's just an opinion. You are welcome to yours. But there's no reason to be so nasty to others who simply have a different opinion from you. As one who is concerned about the impact specific verbiage has on a topic when discussing its merits, perhaps you might reflect upon your own? Many people find that if they wish to rebut someone's statement, and possibly change that person's mind as well as that of others, that is it often advantageous to reframe from name calling and being nasty in general. Someone presented with a well-reasoned and nonjudgemental alternate opinion, or additional set of facts, might even reconsider their opinion instead of digging in their heels. I doubt that you would address a neighbor or coworker the way that you have done more than one person on this video. Everyone that is tempted to watch this video is sort of a "neighbor" in the knife world. They are also all going to have differing opinions on some topics, and on what makes one knife The Best for them. I'm sure that there are probably many things that you and I would agree on, this may not be one though. Putting aside our passion or apathy for paracord handles, I wish you a good day and the company of many likeminded companions. @@Swearengen1980
@@yellowdog762jb I wasn't passing judgment on opinions, I was passing judgment on stupidity. Different opinions are great if they're rational, logical, and well informed. The complaints here are born of ignorance or wanting to use a model for which it is not intended. I hate paracord handles, won't use one. Not liking them isn't why I commented. MKC openly advertises this not as a working knife or hunting knife. They have other models that are exactly what people want if they took 2 minutes to look at the company website instead of thinking a RUclips review gave them 100% full and accurate information, thus giving them an ignorant opinion. Just because it is capable of doing such tasks doesn't mean that's the demographic MKC is targeting and they say so on their website and in multiple videos. So yes, I have impulse control problems when people say stupid, ignorant shit.
I love my Speedgoat in MagnaCut. It has become my go to EDC for hiking, backpacking, hunting and fishing. At only 3 oz. with the kydex sheath its ideal when ounces make pounds, and pounds make pain. I also really like the Whitetail. I feel like MKC knives are a bit overpriced but they are very high quality and are made in America by a great company that supports the Second Amendment and hunting rights. And they stand behind their products with their Generations warranty.
I Keep hearing MKC is overpriced, but then you might as well apply that to every single magnacut fixed blade out there. They may be a few bucks more than many brands (and I've seen some more expensive), but MKC also comes with the best sheath compared to any other that I've come across and their heat treat is perfect. All things considered, the price is exactly what one would expect.
anyone know of any knives with similar dimensions to the Stoned Goat? full flat, similar blade-to-spine and blade thickness profiles, etc. MKC is sold out, but I want a knife like that.
Curious, why the sharpness? I sharpened a Walmart butter knife and shaved with it, so I don't understand why sharpness is ever a factor. Granted how good the factory sharpened it is an indicator of quality control.
And that walmart knife will dull in a few cuts and you'll be sharpening it again. Magnacut stays sharp for an absurdly long time through heavy abuse. You wouldn't make it through 30 seconds of skinning a buck with that butter knife. Just here to troll I assume or show your stupidity to the world?
I just can justify that much for paracord wrapped knives. Just something I can't do. Not only do I find it useless but I already have enough paracord. Give me g10 or micarta scales for those prices.
Agreed, my paracord handled knives should be knife blanks that you bought for much cheaper and want to use without going through the trouble of making a proper handle. A good example of this is the Terava 85 puuko and Terava 80 Scrama. Two excellent carbon steel knives that can be bought without a handle and paracord added easily
They are expensive no question. But I wouldn’t say they are overpriced. They sell out in minutes every time they do a drop so from a business perspective they are priced appropriately for their market which is mostly big game hunters. That being said, I would recommend getting their magnacut blades over the 52100. That way you are getting a premium super steel. Nothing wrong with 52100 but magnacut is a superior steel IMO.
I had the magnacut speedgoat but sold it. The handle was too cramped. Did the same as a $15 Mora, which has a nice full handle. I do wish more knife companies would make thin stock with thin edges like MKC does though. This “survival knife” fad for every outdoor knife needs to end
I have the Stonewall Skinner and Blackfoot 2.0, both magnacut (Stonewall is my favorite), and my only criticize is they didn't come as sharp as I expected. A little stropping and it was perfect though. I won't buy their paracord handle because of my hands; getting old and arthritic sucks. I don't get the obsession over shaving 1 or 2 ounces, are we men are little girls? Everyone whines about the price, but anyone who has an MKC will tell you the sheath makes up a lot of that price from cheaper (and lesser quality) products. Best sheath I've received with any knife, hands down. I'm also more than willing to pay a few extra bucks to support an American small business. Not to mention the heat treat - watch some torture tests on MKC; it's impressive for such a thin blade. You get what you pay for with MKC.
always enjoy your video and appreciate the time you put in making them for sure. I do like the design and blade of that stoned goat black one but I have never liked a knife that just has a wrapped paracord handle as I have always found them not to be vary comfortable in the hand. and for $225 they could have done micarta or nice wood handle in my opinion. For me I would take the Esee as I like that all around design and handle better but that is just me and like I say all the time what works for one person may not work for others. we all have to find out what works and feels best for each one of us.
These are some great looking blades that really appeal to me but $225 is a stretch. Compared to some proven knives from Boker, Tops, Esee, and Joker of similar construction and size range, anything over $180 price point for them is just unexceptable for me.
As others have said, I’m not a fan of the paracord wrap; I wish they would at least provide an option for g10. I can (and do) carry my own spare paracord, so it provides zero appeal to me personally. As a point of comparison with a similar price point and size/weight, I have benchmade’s saddle mountain skinner (s90v blade), and have used it on four successful hunts (2 elk, a deer, and a javalina). With the solid handle, it was a breeze to clean up. Also, the Benchmade has a little more robust blade geometry, which makes me a little more confident when potentially prying around bones/joints/etc., which sometimes is necessary. Overall, I believe it to be a better hunting knife than these, if we’re going to talk super expensive knives for hunting. 😊 However, the sheath that came with the Benchmade is a total and complete POS. So the MKCs definitely have that as a plus. Seems to be a neat company, though. As a knife guy, I’ll definitely have to keep my eye on their offerings.
Critical thinking skills are dead in this society. The entire point of the paracord wrap (which I won't buy) is to shave off the weight of scales. Watch any single video from MKC and they repeat it over and over again. The selling point of these is that they're absurdly light while also being very sharp and remarkably tough for the blade thickness and weight. They have plenty of options in G10. The Blackfoot 2.0 is comparable size to the Speedgoat. The primary difference is the weight of the G10 scales.
I’m aware of their arguments, I just don’t agree with them. I would like the option to trade weight for what to me is a better handle material. The extra ounce or so would be a welcome trade, especially with the blade shape on the stone goat (ie, I would love this knife for my uses and preferences if g10 or similar were an option).
@@warrenruppart8567 You don't get to trade weight and keep any form of real handle material. I can't tell if you're obtuse or just brain dead, as you claim to understand what this is marketed towards while every other words says you have no clue. Scales weigh more than an ounce or so, plain and simple. The slightly smaller Blackfoot 2.0 with G10 scales weighs 3 or 4x the Speedgoat for example. The reality is, if you need under 2 oz instead of 6, you should probably man up or go to a gym, but that's beside the point. In any case, have you thought about actually looking at their website and seeing that they have very similar knives to what you want? The Stonewall skinner is a tad bigger, very similar blade shape, and has G10 scales - And yes you pay for it at $325. But if you'd taken 2 minutes to look instead of just whining on a review channel about just 1 of their models, you'd have known that they basically do offer what you want.
@@Swearengen1980It’s a poorly thought-out package intended for hunting. Paracord is a fabric-based cordage that has an absorptive property. Hunting equals blood and bodily fluids on the knife, which equals a gross and non-sanitizable knife.
It’s sad to see that a good number of this knives are inmediatamente resold on eBay for a profit. People who actually wants to buy them (working people that can’t be glue to a screen waiting for the drop) and use them need to go and pay $100 more for them. I can’t wait for them to have bigger facilities so they can actually be working knives that you can buy.
Sounds like a sponsored video just admit its way over priced for what it is any real hunter would tell you paracord wrapped handles are garbage unless you change out the paracord think about it when its coated in blood after dressing an animal or even a fish for that matter the knife is gonna be disgusting the thing will smell after awhile its just a shame people fall for this shit and will buy this knife but hey to each is own
Not a sponsored video, just sent me some blades as many brands do, no guaranty if or when I will make the content and what will be in it. As you can see not holding punches on tip strength, and competing options. I am sure they are great for some, and a total waste for others that’s what every videos goals.
@gideonstactical I saw some holding back in the tip tests no side to side motions were done they were taken out very carefully but it is what it is I'm not judging you everybody loves getting free shit I just want true reviews
Certainly a big No. They are like constructed in a jail from gang members. Why didn't just rap for handles with duct tape? For 225 they are so many better options that are countless.
@@gideonstacticalno thank you Another thing if your Joe Rogan or any one of his buddies you can get a knife from that company. Quite easily You don't have to wait for a blade drop Quite a few have podcasts and sponsor MKC. I'm a 57 year old disabled vet I quit playing games a long time ago
Informative video. Looking at both mkc models mentioned.
Currently have a white river m1 with paracord handle. Use for skinng and butchering game and gutting fish. The paracord does gets messy but just undo the cord soak it warm water and soap for 15 minutes, let cord dry, rewarp knife.
People say there are "better, cheaper alternatives" but have yet come across any company names.
Mkc knives are "pay once, cry once". They seem they will last a lifetime, as long as you dont lose the knife 🤣
Pound for pound, these make Medford look economical in price. Aint no way these knives should be priced anywhere near what they are
I absolutely agree!! They charge way too much for such a little blade. It’s absolutely ridiculous. And honestly there are much better knife friends out there that will give you way more blade for a whole hell of a lot less of a price tag!!
Congrats on getting your hunting license! My friends and I do a mentor hunt every year to give people an opportunity to get into hunting. It’s always a little funny to see what knives guys bring, it’s usually either something like a brand new KaBar USMC fighting knife or a Swiss Army knife, so they get a crash course in hunting knives. The sweet spot for a one size fits most is a bird and trout knife for small-medium game, and a 3-5” drop point with thin geometry. You can go up to 7” for a big game skinner but the greenhorns aren’t going to take any game bigger than a white tail normally.
Thanks Aaron for the review; I think that paracord soaked with fish guts would be much harder to clean than that plastic and steel folder; just my experience with getting rid of fish smell.
It’s actually not too hard to clean the paracord. I used my Speedgoat on an elk hunt this year and it got covered in blood and hair. I just cleaned it with hot soapy water and it is fine now. No smell or anything remaining. And it’s easy to rewrap the handle if you feel the need. They have a video on RUclips showing you how. Or you can send it back and they will resharpen and rewrap it for you free of charge.
True, that is why I use spyderco salt for these dirty tasks.
My particular one is the Stretch 2 XL salt in H2, they have coated hardwear, no liners, not even washers! I think it stays cleaner even better than many fixed blades, on which liquid may collect under scales.
Take off the paracord, wash it, re-wrap the handle. Or re-wrap it with new paracord. MKC even has a video on how to do this.
@@Swearengen1980 too troublesome
@@Laurarium It takes all of 3 minutes. I assume that if you own any firearms, they never get shot. Because cleaning them afterwards is too troublesome, right?
Over priced and federally funded marketing shoots these knives into huge popularity but the reality is there are much better options as we see. Great video
Could you name some? Not arguing, honestly asking.
I recently bought 2 MKC knives, the stonewall skinner and the speedgoat 2.0. Out of the box I was very impressed with both knives! They both feel sturdy and well built. The price is a lot, but the quality matches the price point. Would absolutely recommend MKC Knives! Great review as always!
I love the Stonewall skinner. Not quite a Nessmuk, but hints of that style, which is my preferred skinner blade shape since I use the hides and don't want to poke any holes. Only skinned one buck with it, but man it was nice not having to stop and touch up the blade half way through like my last skinner I tried.
Thanks for sharing!
I've already invested in three Izula's and one Izula 2. Admittedly skinning game isn't something I do any longer or the blade shape looks terrific for this. I do a lot of hiking, but am happy with my Izula's and their lights attached to their sheaths. Another great review.
The Izula is a work horse, i do like the thinner stock and longer blade of these.
Those knives slice like a king.
Can’t wait to see you doing some game videos. I can’t believe you’re such an avid outdoorsman and just now going to try it out. Welcome to the club.
Can't wait!
I’ll give them this, their marketing department does an outstanding job. At the end of the day they’re skeletonized premium steel knives that I don’t think warrants the price. Hell, they’re even smart enough to save on the lack of scales too.
Their content is excellent for sure.
Nice review! I use the Mini-Speedgoat (1 ounce) as my EDC straight blade. Love the thin blade and the durability of the knife. For general use, hunting & food prep great. For extended bush crafting, I’d use one of my Joker knives.
For the price the stoned goat should be magnacut with G10. I would definitely buy that.
Hopefully at some point.
Add G10 and magnacut and you've basically got the Stonewall skinner. It's very close, only an inch or less bigger. And adding in the scales and magnacut would put it at over $300. I think I paid $325 for the Stonewall. And yes, it's worth it. Everyone keeps complaining about the price with zero perspective. Magnacut, top of the line sheaths, perfect heat treatment, and from a small business in the USA - We're not talking mass produced like ESEE or Tops (and Tops can get to those prices where you don't get what you pay for). Everyone just wants something for nothing because their short bus brains can't forest for the trees.
Its a case of less is more. They realized there was a market for a really thin and slicey blade for field dressing that was also light weight. So, while people make comments that it doesnt seem worth the money, you are kind of right, until you go looking for an alternative knife that is 0.10 thick from magnacut and a couple of ounces. If the paracord or mirror shine are non starters for you, take a look at the Jackstone. Its been my go to field dresser. Only slightly thicker at 0.118, great shape G10, and washed finish. Thing is a laser beam. Yes, i hated that it was $300, but finds its way onto every hunt.
Which LT Wright knife models fall in line with these MKC kives ?
Really like the Stoned Goat. Tip for those wanting to keep the paracord but want a better grip (maybe inspiration for MKC) - there are paracord wrapping techniques that give the handle a bit more girth and traction. Have a look here on YT for knife, ax or sheath paracord wraps.
Great video buddy. Love the blades
Ya they have grown on my for certain situations for sure!
G'day Aaron, what I like here is that there's a top notch stainless and a top notch carbon tool steel to choose from. Cant say I'm a fan of para wraped handles though, .... should you need the cordage you compromise the tool. I dont think there's anything wrong with the blade designs themselves, but cant really think of an application where they'd replace something I already have; fishing maybe, but then the parawrap will undoubtedly trap/soak up blood and other fluids.
I'd suggest; if they're popular as is, ....... whack a proper set of scales on and see what happens ; )
Cheers Duke.
Useful data points 👍
Montanna knife makes more knifes with g10 than with paracord there magnacut blackfoot is insane and i also picked up a magnacut supercub about a 5 inch knife both in g10
The precision and craftsmanship on Montana knifes is top noch
If you want to get the knife of your choice you literally have to follow there drops and buy either first 15
Min or there gone they sell out sooo quick and they sell out of every knife super quick they sell 3 piece 1000$ plus chef knife sets and thre gonee in hours sonits not just there most popular stuff anything in magmacut is usually out of stalk may be able to find the 52100’stocked consistently
thanks Aaron. Are you planning to review Civivi’s new Stormridge fixed?
Yes 👍
I would like to see the stormridge review as well
Yeah, as soon as I see a paracord wrap, it's a no go. Unless it's a $30 dollar knife. That is ridiculous.
Definitely not for everyone
what do you mean, 30 cents worth of paracord on a knife they try to sell for 350 dollars isnt good enough for you?
If you're just looking for a skinner, Schrade makes a replaceable blade folding skinner. And it doesn't cost two Benjamins!🤣
Parra cord is good for so many things . But not on a hunting knife. Not easily cleaned .
I feel 💯 % certain you confirmed the location of your med kit when you went for the MKC dual draw. 😊
Hahah!! You are absolutely correct
It wouldn't be that hard for them to drill a couple of holes in the handle and offer the option of either Micarta or G10 scales. Just not a fan of paracord wrapped handles. Otherwise I can see a niche market for these knives.
I bought a pair of lapd gear shoes , green and black, you reviewed them a while back, nice shoes !
Awesome! Glad they are performing well. I am still using them as well!
I was interested and followed drops a little while but handle wrapped in paracord was a no go for me. I like thin edge with ffg so bought multiple Survive knives edc4. Wonderful handles and kydex sheaths. I can use it all day and the price is about the same. I think they are available to buy on website or will be soon. I don’t work for them or get anything from them, just very satisfied customer.
Theyre a bit expensive for what you get
True, but the quality and community they are build at MKC is impressive.
@@gideonstactical I'm sure the quality is good. An educated shopper might get all the " must have" , boxes checked off by something costing less
Dang, what I wanna give to be in the Rockies. Btw, I just picked up the bailout because of your reviews and I am sooo pleased with it. Very impressive
Awesome so glad to hear that! You should look into the AWT After a while to trick it out, it does add to the ergonomically.
@@gideonstactical I’ll look into that. I went with the m4 version like you recommended and it’s just awesome
lol, I was already on the list for the 2.0!
I like the Speed Goat's blade shape but I'd like to see it coated
The 52100 steel versions are coated
WOW very gooood like alwaysss !! I hope you'll do a review on the ESEE Sencillo Magnacut soon?????.......
Yes, totally coming soon!
@@gideonstactical YES !!! In Québec the Esee is 310$ and the TRC is 559$ +tax and ship !!!
Yikes!!
Hey Aaron, I need some help. I've employed those on Bladeforums with their opinion on this topic and they have offered some great options. These two blades look awesome and could be contenders but price is the main factor. So here's the dilemma. I'm looking for a dedicated food prep knife for the camp that is inexpensive ($55 or less), 4", flat ground drop point with wide belly, in stainless steel so I don't really have to maintain it, easy to clean and sharpen, compact enough to throw in my pack and preferably made in usa. I just realized that most of my fixed blades are 1095, 5160 and one thick Buck 650 Nighthawk in 425M and 420HC. I have gone through so many avenues looking for this blade! I have narrowed it down to the Kabar Snody Big Boss in S35VN, Kabar Forged Wrench knife in 425 (only 3" blade) or the Buck Selkirk. The Buck Selkirk would look to be the perfect blade for this in price but it's made in china and doesn't have the Bos heat treat. Are there any others you might think of with these parameters?
Joker "Montés II CR58 and some other jokers and puma knives wound be bad to look at.
Schwartz confidante would’ve been a good comparison. I have stoned goat for hunting and was considering the confidante since it’s got more belly and g10 handle, thicker stock.
I laughed when you had to reinforce about the knives not being used as a screwdriver lol.
Especially considering the geometry.
Unfortunately some knife users are drongos😅
Hate to think what we'll get charged for these knives here in NZ
225$😂 NO WAY BRO
But you probably have a $1k iphone that you'll trade in 2 years right? If you're cheap or poor and don't know shit about knives, it's ok to just say that instead.
@@Swearengen1980An iPhone is a cutting-edge palm-sized supercomputer. This is a basic spec hunting knife.
This is the second time I've seen that med kit. Would love to see an overview of it.
Grace suggest and Rob I’ll do just that in the coming month or two.
Aaron, greetings from the border of Boulder and Larimer counties. If you have any questions on getting into Colorado hunting it would be my pleasure. Could also show you some good public land areas on the Front Range. Over the years you've been a stalwart guide to me for gear, I'd like to return the favor!
Thank you so much, I might just have to take you up on that!
What's the backpack your rocking?
It’s a mystery ranch 2 day assault Huckberry Exclusive camo
You can still get magnacut, thin and slicy, with finished scales for the same or lower price from several makers. Beats fishgut smelly paracord hands down. (Regardless of what MKC says)
Ok, I get what you're saying about the price. I still think they're a little overpriced, as was the gallon of milk I bought this morning. I guess I don't care so much about new designs, but would rather see more options in blade steel and scales for the great knives they already have. I don't get to see knives unless I buy them and that's a lot of money to drop on a hope and a prayer. I have a drawer full of those. As far as the short bus mentality goes I didn't get through school, taught myself to read in my late teens cause no one else could and spent all my time working, hunting, fishing, and trapping. It took me an hour just to type this😊
Ever going to review the LT Wright Northern Hunter knives? They look like great ones. Thanks for this one they have seemed interesting to me, but just way too much.
Love my LTWK Large Northern Hunter! It is a fantastic hunting knife. The meat in my freezer agrees with that.
Buck 684 and Joker Rabbit might be a less expensive option. Not Magnacut though and sheaths not as good. Handles are better though.
There's a million less expensive options, but that's not what the video is about is it? If you want cheap, close any video that says magnacut. MKC's barely heavier knives that have real handles are much better, IMO.
@@Swearengen1980 if you don't like less expensive options comments, then you don't have to read them. Not everybody has the money to drop on something like this. This thing is very expensive, even for higher end knives.
@@thomasmaloney843 Wrong. This is on par with high end knives. There are many lesser quality knives plus shit sheaths, that are more expensive than this. And yes, I do have to read them, otherwise I wouldn't know what the comment about. What you should have said was, "you didn't have to comment". Now I see why $200 is considered "very expensive" to you; short bus here didn't succeed in life.
@@Swearengen1980 just don't like blowing money on conspicuous consumption. Shows you have more money than brains.
@@thomasmaloney843 Sorry sport, I'm just not cheap and would rather buy an heirloom piece instead of mediocrity. Sure, I have a good engineering job and make decent money, but I'd wager my IQ and common sense are well beyond yours, who clearly lacks critical and rational thinking skills. By your same logic, anyone with brains shouldn't have a house bigger than 500 SF, because anything more is just conspicuous consumption right? Hope you're not typing from a smart phone, either...more conspicuous consumption. Maybe you do live in a tiny box with a flip phone, in which I'll simply point out you're jealous that some of us have succeeded in life to where we can buy superior products without breaking the bank. It's laughably to absurd to offer up a $30 blade as being a near equal alternative to magnacut.
For that price and paracord wrapped no. If you hunt, the cord gets soaked and needs replaced.
String wrapped handles seem like they'd get very gross in normal use. $200 for a sharp piece of metal seems kind of steep. I have other knives that I've paid about that for, but I wouldn't spend that for one of these.
"String". "Sharp piece of metal". Sounds like you're a collector who doesn't know shit about blade steel, heat treatment, consider the sheath that comes with it, or.....probably even used a knife in any meaningful way.
@@Swearengen1980 That's my opinion, you are welcome to yours. Clean a deer with that knife and then get back to me. And good luck getting hog fat out of that material. Even if you just whittle sticks all day with it, it's going to get sweaty, dirty and smelly. Rather than a personal attack, perhaps you could argue otherwise with actual facts or reasons why a string handle on a $200 knife is the best idea since sliced bread?
What's this knife actually good for? A nice display knife should have a nice handle, and a working blade should have a practical one. It may be great steel, but the cord wrap makes no sense for use in the real world. As it is, it's just a fancy shank.
If I was a collector, I probably would swoon over the steel, and end of story. I might not care about how practical the handle seems for actual use, because it would stay pristine. It's either a working knife, or a display knife. Pick one. Right now it doesn't seem to be either, it's just something to impress one's friends with.
@@yellowdog762jb I was just speaking to your verbiage, I never said paracord was a good thing. It's meant as an EDC or for hikers who want to shed ounces, hence the no scales. That's the entire point. I hate skeletonized/wrapped handles anyway, it's too small, so I'd never use it. But guess what...it's paracord. You can unwrap it, wash it, and rewarp it. They even have a video showing how. I don't have to justify the knife, they do it on their own if you watch their videos. You're judging it's use and purpose and value out of ignorance and a short review from a RUclipsr. They don't advertise this as a hunting knife, it's just capable of it. They advertise this for hikers and EDC for those who want to shed weight and still have a fixed magnacut. It's a specific demographic. If you don't like paracord, they have other options with G10. So yes, I'll criticize you for speaking out of ignorance, thinking you know all about the knives, their purpose, etc. when you all you did was make incorrect assumptions.
There's no reason to attack others with such vitriol for simply expressing an opinion that differs from yours. Paracord wrapped handles are less than optimal for a work knife in my opinion. They seem more reminiscent of one likely to be featured in a Ramdo movie. EDC means Every Day Carry, and that implies frequent use. And they are going to get grimy if used daily. For that price it is my opinion that they should have better handles. Better as in nicer looking, ergonomic, and/or easier to keep clean.
"...when you (sic) all you did was make incorrect assumptions." You are the one that is making assumptions and judgements about others by calling them simple collectors and making judgements about their experience with knives. You also said someone else was acting like a child for not wanting to bother with disassembling the handle, washing it and rewrapping it. If you wish to do that, that's perfectly okay with me. That person chooses not to do so, and I agree with him. It's just an opinion. You are welcome to yours. But there's no reason to be so nasty to others who simply have a different opinion from you.
As one who is concerned about the impact specific verbiage has on a topic when discussing its merits, perhaps you might reflect upon your own?
Many people find that if they wish to rebut someone's statement, and possibly change that person's mind as well as that of others, that is it often advantageous to reframe from name calling and being nasty in general. Someone presented with a well-reasoned and nonjudgemental alternate opinion, or additional set of facts, might even reconsider their opinion instead of digging in their heels. I doubt that you would address a neighbor or coworker the way that you have done more than one person on this video. Everyone that is tempted to watch this video is sort of a "neighbor" in the knife world. They are also all going to have differing opinions on some topics, and on what makes one knife The Best for them. I'm sure that there are probably many things that you and I would agree on, this may not be one though.
Putting aside our passion or apathy for paracord handles, I wish you a good day and the company of many likeminded companions.
@@Swearengen1980
@@yellowdog762jb I wasn't passing judgment on opinions, I was passing judgment on stupidity. Different opinions are great if they're rational, logical, and well informed. The complaints here are born of ignorance or wanting to use a model for which it is not intended. I hate paracord handles, won't use one. Not liking them isn't why I commented. MKC openly advertises this not as a working knife or hunting knife. They have other models that are exactly what people want if they took 2 minutes to look at the company website instead of thinking a RUclips review gave them 100% full and accurate information, thus giving them an ignorant opinion. Just because it is capable of doing such tasks doesn't mean that's the demographic MKC is targeting and they say so on their website and in multiple videos. So yes, I have impulse control problems when people say stupid, ignorant shit.
I love my Speedgoat in MagnaCut. It has become my go to EDC for hiking, backpacking, hunting and fishing. At only 3 oz. with the kydex sheath its ideal when ounces make pounds, and pounds make pain. I also really like the Whitetail. I feel like MKC knives are a bit overpriced but they are very high quality and are made in America by a great company that supports the Second Amendment and hunting rights. And they stand behind their products with their Generations warranty.
I Keep hearing MKC is overpriced, but then you might as well apply that to every single magnacut fixed blade out there. They may be a few bucks more than many brands (and I've seen some more expensive), but MKC also comes with the best sheath compared to any other that I've come across and their heat treat is perfect. All things considered, the price is exactly what one would expect.
Agreed@@Swearengen1980
At last, the esee sencillo!
Coming soon!
anyone know of any knives with similar dimensions to the Stoned Goat? full flat, similar blade-to-spine and blade thickness profiles, etc. MKC is sold out, but I want a knife like that.
Becker bk14
@@gideonstactical thanks, i'll look into it
I need an actual handle
Over rated blade! Esee Izula and Esee 3 rule!
Still love the review Aaron!
Those comparison knives aren't ANYTHING like the two MKC models. Of ALL the knives available today, how were those selected?!
Curious, why the sharpness? I sharpened a Walmart butter knife and shaved with it, so I don't understand why sharpness is ever a factor. Granted how good the factory sharpened it is an indicator of quality control.
And that walmart knife will dull in a few cuts and you'll be sharpening it again. Magnacut stays sharp for an absurdly long time through heavy abuse. You wouldn't make it through 30 seconds of skinning a buck with that butter knife. Just here to troll I assume or show your stupidity to the world?
I just can justify that much for paracord wrapped knives. Just something I can't do. Not only do I find it useless but I already have enough paracord. Give me g10 or micarta scales for those prices.
Agreed, my paracord handled knives should be knife blanks that you bought for much cheaper and want to use without going through the trouble of making a proper handle. A good example of this is the Terava 85 puuko and Terava 80 Scrama. Two excellent carbon steel knives that can be bought without a handle and paracord added easily
sen-see-yo.
Way too overpriced in my opinion.
They don’t care though, seems like they have a cult following all because a couple veterans endorse them…
They are expensive no question. But I wouldn’t say they are overpriced. They sell out in minutes every time they do a drop so from a business perspective they are priced appropriately for their market which is mostly big game hunters. That being said, I would recommend getting their magnacut blades over the 52100. That way you are getting a premium super steel. Nothing wrong with 52100 but magnacut is a superior steel IMO.
agreed, overpriced.
Especially for paracord wrapped handles
If they sell they are not overpriced.
Paracord handle is a no go for me on a premium knife.
I had the magnacut speedgoat but sold it. The handle was too cramped. Did the same as a $15 Mora, which has a nice full handle. I do wish more knife companies would make thin stock with thin edges like MKC does though. This “survival knife” fad for every outdoor knife needs to end
I have the Stonewall Skinner and Blackfoot 2.0, both magnacut (Stonewall is my favorite), and my only criticize is they didn't come as sharp as I expected. A little stropping and it was perfect though. I won't buy their paracord handle because of my hands; getting old and arthritic sucks. I don't get the obsession over shaving 1 or 2 ounces, are we men are little girls? Everyone whines about the price, but anyone who has an MKC will tell you the sheath makes up a lot of that price from cheaper (and lesser quality) products. Best sheath I've received with any knife, hands down. I'm also more than willing to pay a few extra bucks to support an American small business. Not to mention the heat treat - watch some torture tests on MKC; it's impressive for such a thin blade. You get what you pay for with MKC.
Yes Josh knows what he is doing for sure 👍
always enjoy your video and appreciate the time you put in making them for sure. I do like the design and blade of that stoned goat black one but I have never liked a knife that just has a wrapped paracord handle as I have always found them not to be vary comfortable in the hand.
and for $225 they could have done micarta or nice wood handle in my opinion.
For me I would take the Esee as I like that all around design and handle better but that is just me and like I say all the time what works for one person may not work for others.
we all have to find out what works and feels best for each one of us.
Yes, g-10 handles will be best but for edc and around the property they work well. Really appreciate the comment and feedback!!
When processing nasty stuff, smell trapped in paracord.
Sencillo (Sen-see-yo ) means simple in Spanish
God's peace.
These are some great looking blades that really appeal to me but $225 is a stretch. Compared to some proven knives from Boker, Tops, Esee, and Joker of similar construction and size range, anything over $180 price point for them is just unexceptable for me.
As others have said, I’m not a fan of the paracord wrap; I wish they would at least provide an option for g10. I can (and do) carry my own spare paracord, so it provides zero appeal to me personally.
As a point of comparison with a similar price point and size/weight, I have benchmade’s saddle mountain skinner (s90v blade), and have used it on four successful hunts (2 elk, a deer, and a javalina). With the solid handle, it was a breeze to clean up. Also, the Benchmade has a little more robust blade geometry, which makes me a little more confident when potentially prying around bones/joints/etc., which sometimes is necessary. Overall, I believe it to be a better hunting knife than these, if we’re going to talk super expensive knives for hunting. 😊
However, the sheath that came with the Benchmade is a total and complete POS. So the MKCs definitely have that as a plus.
Seems to be a neat company, though. As a knife guy, I’ll definitely have to keep my eye on their offerings.
Yes they seem to be working hard to pour into the hunting, knife, and USA manufacturing worlds. Agreed scales would be better!
Critical thinking skills are dead in this society. The entire point of the paracord wrap (which I won't buy) is to shave off the weight of scales. Watch any single video from MKC and they repeat it over and over again. The selling point of these is that they're absurdly light while also being very sharp and remarkably tough for the blade thickness and weight. They have plenty of options in G10. The Blackfoot 2.0 is comparable size to the Speedgoat. The primary difference is the weight of the G10 scales.
I’m aware of their arguments, I just don’t agree with them. I would like the option to trade weight for what to me is a better handle material. The extra ounce or so would be a welcome trade, especially with the blade shape on the stone goat (ie, I would love this knife for my uses and preferences if g10 or similar were an option).
@@warrenruppart8567 You don't get to trade weight and keep any form of real handle material. I can't tell if you're obtuse or just brain dead, as you claim to understand what this is marketed towards while every other words says you have no clue. Scales weigh more than an ounce or so, plain and simple. The slightly smaller Blackfoot 2.0 with G10 scales weighs 3 or 4x the Speedgoat for example. The reality is, if you need under 2 oz instead of 6, you should probably man up or go to a gym, but that's beside the point. In any case, have you thought about actually looking at their website and seeing that they have very similar knives to what you want? The Stonewall skinner is a tad bigger, very similar blade shape, and has G10 scales - And yes you pay for it at $325. But if you'd taken 2 minutes to look instead of just whining on a review channel about just 1 of their models, you'd have known that they basically do offer what you want.
@@Swearengen1980It’s a poorly thought-out package intended for hunting. Paracord is a fabric-based cordage that has an absorptive property. Hunting equals blood and bodily fluids on the knife, which equals a gross and non-sanitizable knife.
Where are the budget options??
Lol. 300$ knives smh..
It’s sad to see that a good number of this knives are inmediatamente resold on eBay for a profit. People who actually wants to buy them (working people that can’t be glue to a screen waiting for the drop) and use them need to go and pay $100 more for them. I can’t wait for them to have bigger facilities so they can actually be working knives that you can buy.
Sounds like a sponsored video just admit its way over priced for what it is any real hunter would tell you paracord wrapped handles are garbage unless you change out the paracord think about it when its coated in blood after dressing an animal or even a fish for that matter the knife is gonna be disgusting the thing will smell after awhile its just a shame people fall for this shit and will buy this knife but hey to each is own
Not a sponsored video, just sent me some blades as many brands do, no guaranty if or when I will make the content and what will be in it. As you can see not holding punches on tip strength, and competing options. I am sure they are great for some, and a total waste for others that’s what every videos goals.
@gideonstactical I saw some holding back in the tip tests no side to side motions were done they were taken out very carefully but it is what it is I'm not judging you everybody loves getting free shit I just want true reviews
Certainly a big No. They are like constructed in a jail from gang members. Why didn't just rap for handles with duct tape? For 225 they are so many better options that are countless.
Why would you process fish or game with a paracord wrapped knife. Way over priced for a limited use blade ? What a bacteria magnet.
Very true!
I'm sorry I didn't watch this video at all
You can't get ahold of one of these blades.
Not worth waiting for a blade drop
Overpriced
They are dropping this model at 7pm MST tonight. 👍
@@gideonstacticalno thank you
Another thing if your Joe Rogan or any one of his buddies you can get a knife from that company.
Quite easily
You don't have to wait for a blade drop
Quite a few have podcasts and sponsor MKC.
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