I have to confess -- i watched this video for a different reason... To see how to properly re-box up my new CT 15 so that I could return it! Not that i was unhappy with it, as far as it went, but after using it for a couple weeks I realized the missing bluetooth functionality, etc, was actually a lot more valuable to me than i thought. So after hemming & hawing for awhile as to whether that missing functionality was really worth another $290(!!!) to me, i eventually decided at the last day of the trial period that it probably was (amortized over a couple decades of use). But it was close call.
I know it's a older comment but even though you can add the antistatic hose, cord wrap, brake, and hose garage. Imo both the hose garage and hose (assuming it's someone's first Festool extractor) are things most people will want to add. And after adding those at around 200 USD I'd definitely spring for the Midi that has the Bluetooth and all the stripped down missing parts. I wanted to replace a old CT 26 with a smaller unit for occupied in the field work and I contemplated the 15, but like you I determined the missing features were important enough to me to go with the Midi. Hope it's working out well for you.
@@Fictitious_Character Yeah but the hose isn't really anti static, there is no ground wire in there, just overpriced. Better to use an actual grounded cable.
@@AmerikkkaGuitars well they claim it's antistatic and something to do with the metal tab on the inside lip of the bin. Don't know but I've used them a lot and never noticed any static buildup in the hose with material. Either way I do have one of their non antistatic hoses and it's a cheap feeling hose compared to the standard ones new or old style.
@@AmerikkkaGuitars - Anti-static simply means it doesn't generate static when things (namely dust) rub against it. Same as the anti-static bags used to ship electronics components. It doesn't mean it'll dissipate static from previously-charged objects that come into contact with it.
hey thanks for the video...im a drywall taper on a budget..cant afford festools larger more expensive models nor am i doing jobs big enough to need one. im looking for a hepa vacuum to connect to a "Full Circle" dust free hand sanding system...do you think the ct_15 would be suitable
Update: could be a typo, checked Festool Int. and the CT-15, Mini and Midi all state that the outlet can take a 7amp load. Still odd, because if it had been a voltage mixup, it would be 4amps at 120v. I Just noticed that the outlet cover on my brand new CT-15 states that it has a 2amp [not quite 250 watts @ 120v] limit, I'm hoping that's a typo. I bought this to use with the 400w [3.3amp] ETS EC 125/3 and the 420w [3.5amp] Domino. It says the same in the Owners manual I received with my unit, but strangely I could not double check that info because the CT-15 and latest Gen Mini/Midi.. [all three share the same guts] manuals are NOT on Festool USA. The CT-15 manual is not there, and the Mini/Midi info is for the 2018 release models. This means that "Technically" the CT-15 is not capable of supporting any Festool product. I'm being a little over the top, but even the 250w ETS,DTS,RTS draw a tiny bit over 2amps, and I think they are the lowest power corded tools with dust extraction. The CT-15 comes with the newer twist-lock connector dust hose that mates up with all the Higher amp tools, including my previously mentioned models. Since the CT-15 is based on the same motor as the 2020 Mini/Midi, that would mean they purposely downgraded the outlet on the CT-15. I can only assume that the specs are misstated, since that would mean that Festool built a vac with auto start/stop feature for corded tools, that can't support most of their corded tools. With such a limited capability to support corded tools, it would seem that it would be ideal to use with the expanding line of cordless tools with bluetooth batteries. But, this is the only current model without Bluetooth or the ability to add bluetooth connectivity, and as such should have a higher capability to support the Festool line. Very odd, I will be contacting my Dealer and Festool.
Yeah, Festool is always real cagey here on this subject. Their official position, which i've seen stated in various places in official Festool videos & postings, is that any Festool tool can be safely plugged into their CT Vacs. But as for non-Festool tools, they make no such promise. The amps limitation posted on the outlet apparently is a warning that if you plug in a non-Festool tool and something goes wrong, it's your problem. I guess with Festool tools, they can test them and coordinate the startup loads & timings so that things work okay. But they have no control over 3rd-party tools.
The CT 15's outlet is rated the same as the MINI and MIDI in all markets, AFAICT. Here are the power loads for models with EU / CN / KR outlets: EU, KR, CN (230V): 2200 W CH, DK (230V): 1150 W GB (230 V): 1610 W GB (110 V): 770 W The internal wiring is the same, so the limit is probably being defined by the actual outlet's rating and / or some local legislation.
@@RFC-3514 I did finally talk with Festool, and was assured that any dust collector can power any Festool tool. I asked why my CT-15 had such a low rating I was transferred to an actual engineer , and like @Mad Hungarian suggested it is to dissuade us dense Americans from plugging in super high draw tools - as well as being optimized to the Festool soft start curve. That said it works normally with my Makita plunge saw and my miter saw.
@@fotopdo - Unless tools in the US regularly state incorrect power draws, they could / should still list the actual value their outlet (and internal wiring) is rated for. It looks more like legal ass-covering than anything else. As it is, even if one of their own tools causes something to blow, they can blame the user as long as the tool was rated for more than 2A (meaning 240W, which is what the US / Canada manual says). Basically, if you ever connect anything more powerful than an electric toothbrush to that outlet, they can reject any liability. So I don't think it's so much about "dense Americans", it's more about "litigious Americans and opportunistic lawyers", and Festool USA choosing to play that game as well.
I have to confess -- i watched this video for a different reason... To see how to properly re-box up my new CT 15 so that I could return it!
Not that i was unhappy with it, as far as it went, but after using it for a couple weeks I realized the missing bluetooth functionality, etc, was actually a lot more valuable to me than i thought. So after hemming & hawing for awhile as to whether that missing functionality was really worth another $290(!!!) to me, i eventually decided at the last day of the trial period that it probably was (amortized over a couple decades of use). But it was close call.
I know it's a older comment but even though you can add the antistatic hose, cord wrap, brake, and hose garage. Imo both the hose garage and hose (assuming it's someone's first Festool extractor) are things most people will want to add. And after adding those at around 200 USD I'd definitely spring for the Midi that has the Bluetooth and all the stripped down missing parts.
I wanted to replace a old CT 26 with a smaller unit for occupied in the field work and I contemplated the 15, but like you I determined the missing features were important enough to me to go with the Midi.
Hope it's working out well for you.
@@Fictitious_Character Yeah but the hose isn't really anti static, there is no ground wire in there, just overpriced. Better to use an actual grounded cable.
@@AmerikkkaGuitars well they claim it's antistatic and something to do with the metal tab on the inside lip of the bin. Don't know but I've used them a lot and never noticed any static buildup in the hose with material.
Either way I do have one of their non antistatic hoses and it's a cheap feeling hose compared to the standard ones new or old style.
@@AmerikkkaGuitars - Anti-static simply means it doesn't generate static when things (namely dust) rub against it. Same as the anti-static bags used to ship electronics components. It doesn't mean it'll dissipate static from previously-charged objects that come into contact with it.
@@RFC-3514 Lol it could mean different things, You know they have hoses with ground cabling in them right??? Sheesh
I'm gonna open the box and there's a vacuum inside. Hope you liked the video!
lol
Bag install??
hey thanks for the video...im a drywall taper on a budget..cant afford festools larger more expensive models nor am i doing jobs big enough to need one. im looking for a hepa vacuum to connect to a "Full Circle" dust free hand sanding system...do you think the ct_15 would be suitable
Yes
Update: could be a typo, checked Festool Int. and the CT-15, Mini and Midi all state that the outlet can take a 7amp load. Still odd, because if it had been a voltage mixup, it would be 4amps at 120v.
I Just noticed that the outlet cover on my brand new CT-15 states that it has a 2amp [not quite 250 watts @ 120v] limit, I'm hoping that's a typo. I bought this to use with the 400w [3.3amp] ETS EC 125/3 and the 420w [3.5amp] Domino. It says the same in the Owners manual I received with my unit, but strangely I could not double check that info because the CT-15 and latest Gen Mini/Midi.. [all three share the same guts] manuals are NOT on Festool USA. The CT-15 manual is not there, and the Mini/Midi info is for the 2018 release models. This means that "Technically" the CT-15 is not capable of supporting any Festool product. I'm being a little over the top, but even the 250w ETS,DTS,RTS draw a tiny bit over 2amps, and I think they are the lowest power corded tools with dust extraction. The CT-15 comes with the newer twist-lock connector dust hose that mates up with all the Higher amp tools, including my previously mentioned models. Since the CT-15 is based on the same motor as the 2020 Mini/Midi, that would mean they purposely downgraded the outlet on the CT-15. I can only assume that the specs are misstated, since that would mean that Festool built a vac with auto start/stop feature for corded tools, that can't support most of their corded tools. With such a limited capability to support corded tools, it would seem that it would be ideal to use with the expanding line of cordless tools with bluetooth batteries. But, this is the only current model without Bluetooth or the ability to add bluetooth connectivity, and as such should have a higher capability to support the Festool line. Very odd, I will be contacting my Dealer and Festool.
Yeah, Festool is always real cagey here on this subject. Their official position, which i've seen stated in various places in official Festool videos & postings, is that any Festool tool can be safely plugged into their CT Vacs. But as for non-Festool tools, they make no such promise. The amps limitation posted on the outlet apparently is a warning that if you plug in a non-Festool tool and something goes wrong, it's your problem.
I guess with Festool tools, they can test them and coordinate the startup loads & timings so that things work okay. But they have no control over 3rd-party tools.
The CT 15's outlet is rated the same as the MINI and MIDI in all markets, AFAICT. Here are the power loads for models with EU / CN / KR outlets:
EU, KR, CN (230V): 2200 W
CH, DK (230V): 1150 W
GB (230 V): 1610 W
GB (110 V): 770 W
The internal wiring is the same, so the limit is probably being defined by the actual outlet's rating and / or some local legislation.
@@RFC-3514 I did finally talk with Festool, and was assured that any dust collector can power any Festool tool. I asked why my CT-15 had such a low rating I was transferred to an actual engineer , and like @Mad Hungarian suggested it is to dissuade us dense Americans from plugging in super high draw tools - as well as being optimized to the Festool soft start curve. That said it works normally with my Makita plunge saw and my miter saw.
@@madhungarian3024 yes, this is roughly what I was told when I finally got transferred to an engineer at Festool USA
@@fotopdo - Unless tools in the US regularly state incorrect power draws, they could / should still list the actual value their outlet (and internal wiring) is rated for.
It looks more like legal ass-covering than anything else. As it is, even if one of their own tools causes something to blow, they can blame the user as long as the tool was rated for more than 2A (meaning 240W, which is what the US / Canada manual says). Basically, if you ever connect anything more powerful than an electric toothbrush to that outlet, they can reject any liability.
So I don't think it's so much about "dense Americans", it's more about "litigious Americans and opportunistic lawyers", and Festool USA choosing to play that game as well.