▶ Comparison of Star Trek: The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition NEW 4K 4K DI HDR10 vs 2021 4K
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Hard to believe that from my early 20s in the late 80s to now in my mid 50s, they have sold me the same movie over 10 times on different formats and versions over the last 30 years, so maybe i better make a note in my will at some point to leave some money for future versions of this movie, 8k, 16k, 32k, 3dvr, direct brain version. Lol
I’m this way with Ghostbusters. I was born the same year it came out (1984) and I’ve owned it on so many formats & so many editions. But just like this film, the upgrades always look well worth it to dip in again.
@@DillAvery Yes, and i will of course buy this new version, as all i ever do is whine and complain loudly then comply. lol
My favourite version is the one with the Illia nude scenes
@@GilesMcRiker Agreed. Hard to find but I still own the VHS with those scenes added. On widescreen.
I could never find a good version of this movie perhaps this will be the one worth obtaining. Do you know when this version is to be released on DVD? I can only find it streaming on the Paramount Plus site which my friend has but I don't.
This movie is an example of the fact that the universe is a vast place with many stories to tell. Audiences at the time, were perplexed as to why it wasn't what they were used to. I saw it as a theatrical release and loved the technical stuff and the soundtrack but thought it was too "odd" at the time. Now I see it as part of the uniqueness of storytelling.
This was the first movie I saw in 1980. My mother got home from Bingo on the evening of December 31st, 1979, I was ready and hopped into the car. we drove to the theater, got our tickets, went in and sat down. I'd say the auditorium was about half full. At midnight we all screamed, "HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!". The curtain parted, the lights fell and we probably got a couple of trailers before the movie started. When it was over I was like, "meh...". It was okay. Just a bit convoluted. Now I watch a new version whenever it's available and I like it a bit more each time. With these new effects shots (Vulcan is GREATLY improved!!!) I think I'll like it quite a bit more.
All i can say is the waiting 20 years for a HD version of the Directors Edition was well worth it. WOW!!
Love the tribute at the end,Jerry goldsmith,miss his music,one of a kind,the perfect sci fi movie,the perfect soundtrack 👌
New effects aside this is a big upgrade over the current 4K disc…I’m very impressed with what they did and I’m looking forward to the physical release in September….nice tribute to the master Jerry goldsmith as well….
Does the September 2022 release have the new version or the old one?
@FrictionalGamer Both !
@@Mymoonization so every 4K UHD blu-ray does have the same and newest master and restoration? Why does Paramount+ have a different restoration in this video?
Are you sure about that, it’s the same for me ??!
@@Mymoonization the 4K UHD and the Paramount+ 4K version have different restorations in this video.
Wow, wow, and just WOW. At 45, I grew up on TOS reruns on WZTV 17 from Nashville. I still, to this day, recall the pride and joy of getting this on DVD, which was a HUGE upgrade to my VHS copy. And as good as the UHD box set version of this looked, this is a fabulous, spectacular upgrade. I've never seen the refit Enterprise model look more realistic! The contrast and blacks look sooooo much better on this. Day One Purchase (TM) for sure! Thank you for this!
At 3:40 on the right side, the Director's Cut added TOS shuttles sitting on the newly added area. Robert Wise had added them because he felt that Starfleet would not have completely replaced everything from the TOS era in less than ten years. Plus it was a cool easter egg.
I just saw the New Directors Edition of Star Trek The Motion Picture at a local movie theater this past Wednesday night and it was incredible!!. It was the first time I had seen it on the big screen and it was Awesome!!. The Sound was amazing and so we're the remastered visual effects!. I loved every minute of it!!. It was Great!!. I want this when it comes out on DVD in the fall of 2022. Live Long and Prosper everyone.
first time I've enjoyed watching Star Trek the Motion Picture in years. Also made me appreciate Jerry Goldsmiths score even more.
I like how at 7:19 in the comparison video they switched the deflector dish color from blue to yellow/orange. The rule was supposed to be yellow/orange at impulse and blue at warp. This was just calling for continuity errors that occurred throughout the movie. In the following movies, they just left it blue at all times, which was easier to manage.
I noticed the deflector dish color changes as well
I also think they left it blue in the theatrical cut it just looked better with the whole aesthetic of the shot.
Really it's not that bloody complicated when you have storyboards and people who's sole job is continuity. It's no more of an issue than things like unbuttoned uniforms, injuries like scratches and dirt and such. One would think the director would tell the special effects team what the ship is doing.
Outstanding comparisons here. Well done!
I saw the new Directors Edition of Star Trek: The Motion Picture once it came out on Paramount Plus + this morning and the movie has never looked or sounded any better than it does here. Also the shots of the enterprise leaving drydock so much more clear than in the Theatrical Edition. Also the sound in Dolby Atmos amazing in 5.1. Can't wait for this to come out on physical media on 4K UHD Blu-Ray Disc this September !!! Since it came out on Paramount Plus + I've been hearing a lot of great things about this new 2022 remaster of Star Trek: The Motion Picture - The Directors Edition but the other 50 percent I've been hear a lot of mix comments on youtube and on social media things like the coloring does not look right , too much grain was removed , it has fake grain , the HDR is not right , stuff does not look right etc. You do realize this is the same team that worked on the 2001 Directors Edition right? I heard these same sort of complaints when the Star Trek Original 4 Movie Collection 4K UHD Blu-Ray Disc / Blu-Ray Box Set came out last year of the 1st 4 TOS films some fans are just never happy these days my goodness. Nothing is going to be perfect different remasters are going to look differently than what fans reemember when they 1st saw this film in 1979.
do they show all three Klingon battle cruise digitalise by V'ger
They show the third one on a tactical display at Epsilon 9 during the Klingon transmission.
Thanks for this comparison, much appreciated! Loved the music editing! I am in Denmark and have no access currently to watch the new 4K version, Paramount Plus did not release the movie here in Europe, I asked their customer service repeatedly WHY and could get no coherent response, frustrating! If anyone knows where to obtain a 4K copy, let me know, I can't wait until September for the UHD release! Thanks. 🙏🏻 🖖🏻
Same for me in Sweden, I don’t understand the reason for not releasing it in Europe, paramount owns the rights so there shouldn’t be an issue releasing it on paramount plus in all regions that has the streaming service.
@@hampustheander9437 Yes, exactly! 🙄
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IF you have a subscription to Paramount+ you may be able to watch it in Denmark. You need a VPN (Virtual Private Network) that you can set to whatever country you want it register your current location as. So get it, set it to show you are in the U.S., and you should be able to watch whatever Paramount+ has in the U.S. which is not available in your homeland. Is it the VPN? There are so many techs floating around I don't use so I'm not one hundred percent sure that a VPN is the proper service. I think it is though. Please research for yourself, don't take my word for it.
The Ultra HD BD is coming out this September in North America, international viewers can get it since the disc is region free while it comes with it's 1080P resolution Blu-ray disc, that will be region A locked.
That was great thank you, it’s very interesting to see some of the more major changes.
Visually an incremental improvement on the last edition. Musically a great arrangement of pieces from the movie that sounded superb!
We need a comparison with the 2001 DVD.
Well I invite you to look at my community wall.....I think you will be delighted :)
Love the new version
I remember when I was just 14 years old when this movie First came out All I wanted to see was the new enterprise I often Dreamed about being the captain of the enterprise and boy they did not disappoint me This new version makes me feel like I’m 14 all over again
Color grading has never been easier in 2022. Davinci Resolve will make miracles.
Still my favorite TOS film. Criminally underrated. Overall, the new 4K release is beautiful, and I just saw it 4 times again in the theater! However, there are places where I don't think the new 4K release did the film any favors.
Some dialog could have been restored without interrupting the flow or run time excessively - and some of it seems kind of important to the plot: "My god, over 82 AUs in diameter!"; "Viewer off!" [repeated]; "And there are no finer navigators in Starfleet, Commander."; "Mr. Sulu, please take Lt. Ilia in hand." through "I'm sworn to celibacy, Mr. Sulu. That makes me as safe as any human female."; "I know the Captain meant no personal insult." and "I would never take advantage of a sexually immature species. You can assure him that's true, can't you?"; "Maintaining warp point eight; I show our new heading as 287 point three Mark 105. Lieutenant Ilia...?" and "Confirmed, Mr. Sulu. Confirmed."; "Get out of here, Bones." and "As ship's doctor, I am now discussing the subject of command fitness."; "The new screens held!"; "It could hold a crew of tens of thousands!" and "Or a crew of a thousand, ten miles tall."; "...I don't want him stopped, Bones; I want him to lead me to whatever's out there." "And if that 'whatever' has taken over his mind?" "Then he'll have still led me to it, won't he?"; The whole scene that goes "Why have two carbon units entered V'ger?" "They want to make contact with V'ger." "Does V'ger object to the presence of the two carbon units?" "The carbon units are of no consequence; V'ger will determine their purpose." "Their purpose is to survive." "That is also V'ger's purpose." "You said V'ger's purpose was to find and join with the Creator." "That is how V'ger will survive."
Visually, one part of the new 4K version was really inferior to the 2013 Bluray: In the lounge where Kirk invites Spock to "Sit down!", the trio's faces against the new added effects outside the windows are distorted and madly masked. I think the previous FX were just fine if the new ones required sacrificing the characters.
The background music was always Star Trek's secret weapon - an art that seems to have been lost with time.
Thank you. I'm very interested to see how the scenes taken from the SLV look and sound now. Someone spotted that on the DE, where Spock goes outside, the neck of the Enterprise is partially transparent in the background for a second. Barely noticeable but I wonder if it was the same in the TC.
It depends on HOW the VFX scenes were remastered. If they had the original 70mm elements still available and put them together digitally, it might look better. Otherwise they may have used the optically layered print of the VFX scene that we saw in the TC. I suppose this time around they might have invested more work into the optical effects remastering and rendering the new digital effects at 4K. We can see a wonderful change that makes sense at 4:14 with a minor perspective adjustment of Kirk and Scotty looking out of the transport pod. These are the kind of adjustments i like because it's subtle but it makes sense and would have been like that if they had a little more time in the postproduction during the making of the movie.
I'm 50/50 with this. Half of it looks better on paramount+ the other half looks better on disc.
I never knew they re released this on 4K blu ray. I have the complete collection on blu ray. All of the films including the very last one.
I want it in 4K though
It's all about Money! The more releases of the same movie & nutjobs like me who keep buying the "better" version, the more money in their pocket. lol Both of these are 4K Blu ray, but the P+ version has had many of the visual effects totally redone over just the upscale 4K upscale version. Meaning they went over every single frame of the movie to remaster it. Also P+ streaming of the 4K movie is still compressed over the 4K disc. Plus you need a mid to higher tier 4K Blu ray player & proper TV to take full advantage of the uncompressed discs visuals.
Thanks for putting this up. The ''DIRECTOR'S EDITION'' 4-K looks so much better. September cannot come fast enough.
Both a great masters, although the Director's Edition has muted the colors in some scenes.
Overall, very pleased with the new Director's Edition, in terms of the effects enhancements and audio, although I wish some of the original sound effects were left intact.
The Audio track in the '22 version for dialogue clarity was excellent!
Definitely, hands down, my favorite movie soundtrack of all the Trek films!
Both Goldsmith's score for TMP and Horner's for TWoK are 2 of my favourite film soundtracks full stop.
I thought the new effects and restoration was hit or miss. Kirks tram arriving at starfleet looked way better in the original. There was that janky scene in the observation lounge with kirk, Spock and McCoy where they added the windows and warp nacelles but it totally distorted McCoys face. I miss the original klaxon they used and the original intruder alert voice. 7 out of 10 for me as an update and restoration. I wonder if they ran out of time for the first contact day release. Hopefully they can go back and fix some of the scenes before they commit it to 4k blu ray.
I first watched TMP as a kid in the early 80s and last watched it when the directors cut was released on DVD. As an adult I definitely appreciate TMP much more. And this cut actually pushes it to the top 5 amongst all star trek movies.
I'm super excited to see this in the theater. I will Aldo be getting it on physical media ( assuming it gets released)
Excellent comparison on the versions
The Blu-ray has already been scheduled for release in September, homeboy.
Yup the Blu-ray was already confirmed when they announced the Directors Edition 4K remaster back in 2021. It's just going to be Paramount+ Streaming exclusive at the beginning. I suppose they try to reek in more money at the beginning to compensate for the expensive remaster.
Like night and day images are much better on this restoration. Thanks 4 the video.
There arnt words !!! Looks amazing I'm so getting this !! Many tks
Something I have never seen addressed (please post if you have read about it) is very visible at 5:54 with Kirk and McCoy in this video. The Capt and Cmdr rank wrist stripes have a consistent red thread diagonal on them. Anyone know what that's about? I looked online but anything about uniforms is always complaints about tthe general look of the uniforms and that's all.
How do I get this newer version on dvd? All I find is the old version.
Can't believe you skipped the scene in the rear lounge when Kirk insists Spock sits down. The whole background was changed, and I didn't think it was done very well. That poor rotoscope intern...
Other than the transfer is the length and content the same on the new release?
I can't believe it has taken us this long to get the Director's Cut in high definition.
The Director's Edition was a quantum improvement over the first 4K transfer. There was so much more that needed to be done than just a simple re-grading. It needed just what it mostly got with the DE: to be taken apart and put back together again, just like George Lucas did with the "Star Wars" Special Editions, just without all of the annoying add-ins :)
Now if only Paramount Plus would consider doing that with the other five Classic "Trek" movies, especially "Star Trek V"; watching Birds of Prey with hairy matte lines makes me angry.
"just like George Lucas did with the "Star Wars" Special Editions, just without all of the annoying add-ins"
You can't separate them now - those addins like them or not are the Special Editions.
IMHO the entire OT needs a from scratch recutting from the theatrical edits with all the fixes done that plug the problem points in the effects of those cuts.
And gimme back my Yub Nub muthafuckas!
To be fair watching Star Trek 5 would make anybody angry
@@mrcritical6751 Agreed, but that was especially egregious.
Thank You So Very Much For This!
Fantastic Transition Wipes From Scene To Scene, Musicly, Perfect Timing, You Deserve An Oscar!
Again My Appreciation!
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Live long and Prosper dear Dean 🖖🏻
So this is gonna be the....sixth time I think that I'll be buying this movie. @_@
Please can you do The Taking of Pelham 123 when the 4K disc comes out. Thanks
I can't find this edition when is it to be released on DVD?
Some of these colour corrections were absolutely unnecessary !
Aside from that, it's a vast improvement...
Such a shame Paramount didn't care enough to do it for the 50th anniversary !
What about the extended cuts for the other movies (the 6th already had one for the collectors DVD release. It's about times they give some money to edit director's cuts for the other films !).
Well Jean-Michel, it's not completely wrong what you say but however, the first Star Trek remains the best. But hey, that's my point of view :) !
Once again it’s gorgeous Moon 🥰🤩👏
Nice work on the comparison. It really frustrates me when whoever is doing the coloring, can not see how blue they are making it. Also, if it is a helpful criticism, your video appears to be really dark. Thanks for sharing this.
Looks ace, Will be getting this sep when 4k disc comes out.
Will the Directors Edition be available by itself or do I have to buy the whole box set in September?
You can buy the DE separately !
Looks great - hate that I’m going to have to wait until October to get it here in the UK tho
Get a VPN. That’s what I did
Just found out that PARTS 5 AND 6 are in super high definition and will be available September 6th.
I heard William Shatner asked if he could do a director's version of STV and they said no.
Stupid. They keep updating just this one movie, the least popular of all Trek movies. Of the other 5, Final Frontier needs it the most.
@@LtFoodstamp Star Trek V just needs a flat out remake. Be interesting what they could do with the same basic story and more budget. Of course there is one idea that is outdated...the center of the galaxy has since been proven to be a supermassive black hole, which may be problematic for bringing a starship to meet God.
The new version really is the finished product we should have seen back in '79 but for the fact that the Paramount theatres were pushing Paramount to get the movie out to theatres for the Christmas rush. Consequently, as we all now know, the whole editing process, ADR Foley, colour grading and negative cleaning was done in a fraction of the time such things normally take to meet the exhibitor's deadline. Robert Wise was very unhappy with what was initially released, as was Gene Roddenberry but the theatres had the threat of a huge lawsuit against Paramount if the movie was not delivered on time...hence film cans were being shipped straight to theatres with some prints still wet from the developing baths!
This is now the definitive version of the film Wise always intended it to be with all the cuts made more coherent, use of recently discovered voice sound loops which, because of time, were not used in the original release and so on. The newly mastered effects have gotten rid of the poor colour grading of the original, the grain and those terrible tearing mattes (especially in the last minute of the travel pod scene). Gone also is the reflection of the filming armature of the travel pod as it backs into the Enterprise.
All in all this is just a wonderful release and I am so happy about it. Yes, kids will still think it is slow compared to their bang, bang smash-em films passing as SciFi these days but many may just twig to the fact that this is true Science Fiction which posits some very important quesitons about the future of humanity and what it means to be a human being looking for meaning in this universe...hence that final legend at the end of the film, "The Human Adventure is just beginning." Superb...just superb!
i know in September, there will be the 4K BD release, but will it come on regular BD too?
Absolument M L’étranger :)
I wish they would have done something similar to the tng remaster. It looks better but you can still see all the harsh outlines on the ships and things.
They did seem to clean up the more egregious shots with very noticeable black seams of each composited element, like with the planets as seen here: 8:16
Yes, best looking overall version - no doubt, with increased visible resolution (perhaps just be better encoding, or actual 4K instead of 2K upscaled) and DV, higher DR, resolved color grading, recreated some all-effect composite shots, but not all live action and effects combination shots leaving aliasing and rear-projection and the bridge depopulation SNAFUs. Film noise is controlled where easily possible, and noticeably scene stealing where it's not addressed. Why go so far restoring but not finish the job fully? This is NOT fully restored yet. Still, what's on display, even just streaming service (at peaks of 2.5Mbps by my monitoring), it's an incredible achievement. It's hard to imagine how good the discs will look like at 60Mbps.
Damn that looks good!
Fascinating 😁🖖
If were to ask which is better ,the theatrical version or the Director's cut or edition .I would tell the Director's edition is way better as movie ,plus the one big screen is good ,since I did see as kid on the big screen ,way back in the day .But do like the Director 's cut much better .
looks like the 4K version is the original theatrical release version transferred over. and the P+ version is the directors edition that came out back in 200/2001 both look good cleaned up but the P+ version has a newer negative and cleaner transfer to go off of.
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This is the only Star trek movie that felt "Epic" an had a sense of wonder, Khan is great, don't get me wrong but it felt cheaper.
Looks pretty good
Wow, they really cleaned this up. Looks like it's digitally reconstructed with AI upscaled and the visual noise has been considerably cleaned up. Lighting has been altered. I would even say that they took the original image of some pieces and replaced parts of it using the original image as a template. Skin tone has also been modified. The added detail is exquisite.
As far as I know, AI upscaling was not used in this restoration. They did however reconstruct some of the original visual effects by re-compositing them, hence no matte lines. And of course, they altered or completely replaced some shots with new CGI.
@@theemrpoint123 well I can definitely see a lot of it was repurposed and recomposited. The colors just pop and seem to have more detail. They definitely spliced out each individual frame and added things. I would say they used AI upscaling a little bit because that would be cheaper though. Who knows.
A definite vast improvement from the 2001 Director's Cut. However some of my complaints from the 2001 Director's cut again made it to the latest version. First off, Jerry Goldsmith created the score for the original 1979 film that covers the entire film and the Director's Edition cut some of the scenes short like the Klingon Battle, going through the Cloud, and the V'ger fly over. When they shorten the scenes they also shortened Jerry Goldsmith's score and it IS very noticeable almost like a scratch in the vinyl. Also annoying is still they shortened the cloud power field from 82 A.U.s to 2 A.U.s. Overall a good attempt and vast improvement from the earlier 2001 Director's Cut, but I still prefer the theatrical 4k edition for having the true 'un-cut" version.
Would you consider doing a comparison on 88 Films & Arrow’s blu ray of 8 Diagram Pole Fighter?
Don’t know :)
@@Mymoonization Ok no worries
The 4k paramount plus directors cut looks better to me then the theatrical 4k
You missed the Epsilon 9 tactical display showing one of the Klingon white blips disappear.
Why are some of the images different in the 4k than the bluray? Example: Golden gate bridge
It’s the new director’s cut
They re-did those shots in the first director's cut because Robert Wise wanted the audience to see more detail of futuristic San Francisco.
@@mr.metamovies2419 At the time this movie was made, I don't think San Francisco was such crap. Thanks to liberals. They turn everything into crap. Their latest victory? Disney.
There's no comparison. The director's edition is the definitive film.
I appreciate the updated visuals as many are superior. I am just pissed that I bought the 4K box set and this updated version is literally released months later. If this was an update years after the 4k box set, I would feel like I was not getting screwed over on my purchase. But the fact that this was released within 6 months of the 4k box set is ridiculous. Middle finger to Paramount or whoever else is responsible. Regardless, thank you My Moonization for the comparison video.
I find that you don’t have to watch these videos in 4k hdr to see the difference. RUclips usually streams these comparisons in 1080p or 4k without hdr. It is more the color grading and contrast adjustments that make the difference. I have my is Ultra set to 4k 60hz without hdr for the best results. If it was hdr that made the difference you would only see the improvement when streaming in full 4k HDR.
I thought the picture quality was fantastic but the remix of the soundtrack was too quiet and they changed the warp sound effects which bothered me as well as the torpedoe effect. Was nice they removed the spots on the camera which ruined the Enterprise flyby. Also, the Enterprise with the Sun coming up on the horizon was too dark. I prefer the theatrical version but this is also fun to watch.
Very cool.
You should have shown that in the Paramount + 4k version, they finally fixed a minor blooper at the end. In the final scene where Spock and McCoy were standing behind Kirk, they were wearing each other's department colors on their environment jackets. Now they're wearing their correct colors.
This isn't really blowing up my skirt. It's kind of an insult to Robert Wise besides calling it "The Director's Edition." Even after all these iterations, I still prefer the TV version, which was Wise's preferred cut.
The human adventure is just beginning.
I just watched this on a browser with no ability to select 4K. It doesn't look 4K. Probably auto depending on internet speed... I think the app allows you to download something.
There is a big difference you don't realize it until you see especially the new scenes
This is probably my least favorite of the original Trek movies, but I still enjoy it for what it is. And now I’m going to have to buy the 4K when it comes out.
I respect your opinion but...I mean, c'mon. Surely you don't think this is worse than Star Trek V.
Call me crazy but it’s my favorite.
I thought the director’s cut was a big improvement.
@@zorakj Yep. The Director's Edition is a very tightly put together film.
10:11 No offense meant to anyone involved with the actual production; this shot really took me out of the story. It's the worst matte painting I've ever seen in a big budget film. 10:23 This is so much better, it's just too bad they couldn't somehow fix the other basic flaws with the movie.
(My favorite, an alien race of sentient machines capable of granting sentience and incredible power to a box of scientific instruments. However they can not clean a brass name plate. Nor read the gold record we included to tell them about _how humanity built this _*_Voyager_*_ contraption to see the solar system._ )
Actually the updated backgrounds and effects were done years ago when they released the Directors Cut on DVD. I was upset when it wasn't part of the Blu-Ray set. Either way I still love this movie.
I’ll just stick with my original laserdisc release.
Overall the 1080p blu ray is still the best available version and transfer of this movie
The rotoscoping in the scene between Kirk, Spock and Bones just before reaching V'ger is dire and should not have passed quality control. Looks like a student did it. The new titles in the directors edition are probably intended to give it an element of class but the gold shine effect and the "shimmer in" effect just makes it look like cheesy. I actually miss the original bold white titles.
Otherwise the 4k directors edition was a worthwhile watch.
I really wish they'd fix the rotoscoping on that scene though or just put back the original in its place before it hits theatres.
There's also a number of other issues with this release - look at the CGI shuttlecraft launching in the background of Starfleet HQ when Kirk is talking with Sonak... on the DVD release this looked fine... but with the 4K release at the end of the shot the shuttle model just hands there in mid-air for about 4 frames which is jarring when you watch it. That's just poor keyframe animation - plain and simple. The final shot of V'ger just before it explodes - the blacks look way too black - it looks like a still image placed in the centre and it detracts from an otherwise great FX sequence, which is a shame as some of the other work in this release (especially the colour balance and audio mix) is great. The only other thing I could live without is the really cheap and cheesy rotation of the Enterprise as it flies to the end of the V'ger ship just before Kirk orders "hold relative position here". The original FX shot was better IMHO. Thankfully the issues are so minor its easily corrected for personal home viewing by taking the next the directors cut has to offer and merging it with original shots that were better left untouched.
cool got sd on ps4
9:17 Ahhhhhhh what happened
The problem I always had with the DC effects is that they didn't blend in well with the original footage. It was okay on DVD but in 4K those effects look especially bad.
As I recall the uniforms in the movie were grey, in this presentation they look duck-egg blue. Not far off from the "COMMENT" button to the lower right as I type this.
Wow chalk and cheese..........the 2021 4K just doesn't cut it !
Yup !!
just my 2cents: a 4k transfer not even 6 months old (was released in 2021 september) why the f. needs another 4k release, that (apart from the extra scenes-) looks different even in the same scenes?
The 4k release some months back was the 79 theatrical version, This 4k is the Directors cut, Very different to the 79 version.
Very different version. The Director's Cut of this film is the very best director's cut of any film I have ever seen. On my website, I gave the original cut 71/100. The director's cut I gave 94/100. Most director's cuts are not as good as the theatrical.
I'm not sure that it would be worth getting this over the current 4k edition. I don't have Paramount plus, nor a Blu-ray, so this is just an opinion based on the images show.
For the most part, it's not worse, with some colour changes looking better. There's an extra sharpness in some shots shown, but I almost feel that it lacks a sense of atmosphere. Like you are just watching someone on a set, rather than someone on a ship, that's maybe got a few plasma leaks here and they're, colouring the atmosphere a little. Also, I'm not sure changing ships in the earth transport hub is a good idea. I feel, it's best to leave those things alone. Tidy then up, clean and colour correct but I'm not, personally, a fan of changing things like that. Which leads me to V'geer.
I grew up with not knowing what it looked like, it was mysterious and massive and huge. It has swallowed planets and solar systems. It's so enormous that, it was almost in comprehensible.
Now, I know that technology has progressed and maybe if they had what we have now it may have been different but I believe, that like in the best Horror, what your imagination makes up, for what's not seen is best. So showing an actual ship, however accurate it probably is, is not for me. It spoils it a little, it takes the mystery out of it.
I think I'll stick with the DVD version i have, or maybe get a LD instead, now that would be cool.
Dear Andrew
This is quite understandable :)
The 4k edition theatrical cut looks like a severely botched transfer - the 1080p blu ray actually is actually sharper and more detailed a lot of the time. I'd also love to know what they did to the colour timing on the 4k edition! The Director's Edition 4k looks really nice... except for the altered/added effects shots which all look pretty terrible IMO.
Well most films out on 4K are basically 2K with regraded colors + upscaled resolution. I doubt studios are going to put money into a film rescan in 4K session again.
For this one there are several scans from the original negatives and archives including in 8K and for the special effects in 6K and all in a 4K DI.
This is not a dig, but I can see why some actor's don't care for 4K. You can really see how old they are. It's great for the backdrop, costumes, but it's not kind to some actors.
With flying vehicles and transporters….why does the golden gate exist in the 24th century?
Why not 😉!!!!
3:39 OMG that looks so fake!
LOL, yeah it looks a 1960's painting of the future.
It does look fake. Hmm. I suppose it could be a particle of pre-animate matter caught in a matrix!
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Who else misses Leonard Nimoy?
I just hope they did not remaster the outline of Stephen Collins's junk in his tight uniform
when he was standing in the corridor. No one needs to see that in 4K.
They did fix that so the bulge is not there any more.
@@trhansen3244 That was a good idea. No need to see the bulge of a man who went on to become a pedophile.
I may be in the minority when I say that I like the original version better. I don’t like new effects in old films as I view movies as time capsules to what kind of effects were possible at the time (although for this movie great care was taken to make the effects seem like they were from the 70s). I’m glad that both versions are readily available. George Lucas needs to take a hint.
The most important thing is your feeling and your opinion which counts the rest it remains subjective and it's very respectable.
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Yes. The new effects also can seem out of place given the old feel of the rest of the movie. It takes you out of it. I even like how V'Ger had not obvious shape in the original. It made it appear vast and unknowable. Seeing it as a whole has never sat right with me.
I'm not sure how I feel about the new effects. May stick with the theatrical.
It is not a Robert Wise film. It is a Star Trekfilm. Therefore as a Robert Wise film I will ignore it.
Then why the hell I buy the 4K pack for 75 bucks?!? Why waste money then?
I cant believe they changed the effects and the colortiming ....
No matter how good this looks, why would you change a good thing?
I banished all 3 Star Wars movies from my memory after Lucas destroyed them by "changing" them and will do the same with this edition.
Luckily i have 2 out of 3 SW originals unaltered in 4K with the third still beeing worked at from original reels!
Hang on to your old 4K UHD the motion picture as its gold!
I love all things concerning Star Trek and they should just release the unaltered director's edition when released on 4KUHD so all are happy.
I think keeping V'Ger mysterious was better. The new shots just aren't as good. It's generally a vast improvement, but there were at least two or three shots in there that are clear regressions.