The Sonata: An Introduction

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    0:00 Introduction
    0:41 I: Etymology & Overview
    2:33 II: In the Beginning …
    8:07 III: The Rise of “Sonata Form”
    16:27 IV: Classical Sonata Form
    30:33 V: Form, Principle, or Theory?
    34:26 VI: What About the Other Movements?
    38:52 VII: The Romantic Sonata
    50:53 VIII: (Post)modern Sonatas
    57:18 IX: A Personal Conclusion
    📚 Sources/further reading:
    “The Sonata (Cambridge Introductions to Music)” by Thomas Schmidt-Beste (Cambridge University Press, 2011)
    “Elements of Sonata Theory: Norms, Types, and Deformations in the Late Eighteenth-Century Sonata” by James Hepokoski and Warren Darcy (Oxford University Press, 2006)
    “Sonata Fragments: Romantic Narratives in Chopin, Schumann, and Brahms” by Andrew Davis (Indiana University Press, 2017)
    “Two-Dimensional Sonata Form: Form and Cycle in Single-Movements Instrumental Works by Liszt, Strauss, Schoenberg, and Zemlinsky” by Steven Vande Moortele (Leuven University Press, 2009)
    The diagram showing rounded binary vs. ternary forms, from Dr. Timothy Crist of Arkansas State, may be found at www.clt.astate.edu/tcrist/theo...
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    Music:
    - Giovanni Gabrieli: Sonata pian’ e forte, Ch.175, performed by the brass of the Bavarian State Opera conducted by Zubin Mehta [original upload: rQeikHMQGOM]
    - Thomas Little: Dance! #2, performed by Rachel Fellows, Michael King, and Bruce Tippette
    - Giovanni Gabrieli: Sonata pian’ e forte, Ch.175, performed by the brass of the Festival des Cathérales de Picardie conducted by Bernard Fabre-Garrus [original upload: Jx2xgbBkjbg]
    - Arcangelo Corelli: Trio Sonata in E-flat Major, Op.2 No.11, performed by Roxana Pavel Goldstein, Elias Goldstein, and Monica Pavel and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/CorelliTrio
    - Lodovico Giustini: Sonata 2, Mvt. 2, from Sonate da cimbalo di piano e forte detto volgarmente di martelletti, Op.1, performed by Anna Heller (née Sutyagina) [original upload: LHPq26NoB4Y]
    - Johann Kuhnau: Biblical Sonata No. 1, performed by Igor Kipnis [original upload: zFzvZ-lxSZw]
    - W.A. Mozart: Piano Sonata No. 12 in F Major, K332, MIDI performance available at www.piano-midi.de/mozart.htm
    - Ludwig van Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 1 in F minor, Op.2 No.1, performed by Peter Bradley-Fulgoni and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/beetson1
    - Ludwig van Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 26 in E-flat Major “Les adieux,” Op.81a, performed by Peter Bradley-Fulgoni and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/beetson26
    - Ludwig van Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor “Pathétique,” Op.13, performed by Gabriel Antonio Hernandez Romero and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/beetson8
    - César Franck: Violin Sonata, performed by Regino Madrid and Carl Banner and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/franckson
    - Elliott Carter: Piano Sonata, performed by Beveridge Webster [original upload: SZxp8O_Lvyg]
    - Paul Hindemith: Viola Sonata, Op.11 No.4, performed by Beth Guterman and Matan Porat and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/hindviola
    - Charles Ives: Piano Sonata No. 2 “Concord,” Mvt. 2 “Hawthorne,” performed by Jeremy Denk and available on IMSLP: tinyurl.com/ivesconcord
    - Thomas Little: Sonata for Violin and Piano, performed by Michele Zimmerman and George Mobley and available for purchase at tinyurl.com/myviolinsonata
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Комментарии • 74

  • @ClassicalNerd
    @ClassicalNerd  Год назад +26

    24:10 A quick clarification here: the “essential expositional closure” is not, strictly speaking, the closing _section_ of an exposition in the Hepokoski/Darcy view-rather, it is the first strong cadence into the secondary key, which almost always happens towards the end of a movement. Note how Mozart is clearly _in_ C Major throughout the second half of the exposition, but doesn’t do a strong V-I cadence in C Major until the last section.

  • @josed.vargas3961
    @josed.vargas3961 Год назад +132

    The real sonata form is the keys we articulated along the way

  • @dk7472
    @dk7472 Год назад +42

    The sonata is absolutely one of the musical forms of all time

  • @ChipsAplentyBand
    @ChipsAplentyBand Год назад +4

    "It's not like THE LAST JEDI or something." A+ for contemporary-minded lucidity!

  • @elinathanferlay1013
    @elinathanferlay1013 Год назад +4

    57:00 About Boulez and sonata, I think we have here a recurring pattern in early Boulez's works.
    Between 1945 and 1946, Boulez studied with Leibowitz the twelve-tone technique. He was fascinated by this technique but, at the same time, he was critical about Leibowitz approach of it that he found to rigid and academic. He consequently composed 12 Notations for piano. It was his first attempt in twelve-tone technique and in this work, we can feel the enthusiasm of Boulez for this new technique in the way explores all the expressive possibilities of it. But we also have here an ensemble of 12 pieces of 12 measures, all based on the same tone row of 12 notes. In this repetition of the number 12, there is a kind of satire of Leibowitz's academism and his obsession for the number 12.
    Among Boulez's first works, a lot of them relied on traditionnal fixed form : Prélude, toccata et scherzo (1944-1945, unpublished), Thème et variations for piano, left hand (1945, unpublished), Sonatine for flute and piano (1945), Symphonie concertante for piano and orchestra (1947, lost), the 2 first Piano sonatas (1946 and 1948)... The 2nd piano is especially interesting. It is apparently a traditionnal 4-movements sonata : first movement in sonata form, slow movement in variation form, scherzo with 3 trios, and introduction, fugue and final as the last movement. But on the other hand, Boulez "corrupts" these traditionnal forms: the thematic and tonal opposition in the first movement is replaced by an opposition between 2 "motivic" ideas, the fugue hasn't an melodic subject but a rythmic one etc... By doing this, Boulez destroys the traditional forms from the inside. After this works, appart from the 3rd piano sonata (which hasn't a traditional structure at all), he no more made use of a traditional form.
    After the failure of Polyphonie X in 1951, Boulez began to call integral serialism into question. He thought that serialism had gone too far. It became too rigid and restrained the composers creativity. But before giving up it, he composed a last work : the first book of Structures for 2 pianos. In this work, he pushed the principle of integral serialism the farthest he has ever done. But on the other hand, it is a kind of a reductio ad absurdum to show it was a dead end. As Boulez said it later, by desiring too much controlling all parameters, we paradoxically produce a music that sounds as chaotic as if there was no control at all. After this, Boulez will try in Le Marteau sans maître to develop a less rigid system which gives more place to creativity.
    I have personnally an explanation for all of this: in spite of his reputation of iconoclast, Boulez had a strong sense of the history. He was conscious to be the product of a musical tradition. So when an element of this tradition that had an important place in his personal development came to bother him, he couldn't symply get ride of it. He had to react to it by a work in order to bring an end to it before being able to go ahead. Hence the necessity for him to destroy the old forms from the inside in his 2nd piano sonata before dropping them, or to push integral serialism to its limit in Structures before adopting a less rigid system. It isn't only a provocation, but also a personal necessity in his own personal evolution.
    I don't know how much my analyse is right but it is coherent with what I know about Boulez.

  • @simondanielssonmusic
    @simondanielssonmusic Год назад +20

    This channel is an absolute gem. As someone who came from a pop/rock background and that is now studying a bachelor in chamber music performance, your videos have been a great resource for learning how to approach classical music as an outsider. Thank you! :)

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this! Most non musicians have a hard time understanding key and tonality as well as major and minor.

  • @RedMeansRecording
    @RedMeansRecording Год назад +14

    This is absolutely fascinating

  • @willkeithkellogg1934
    @willkeithkellogg1934 Год назад +6

    Your channel is very based. Thank you.

  • @Jaker99
    @Jaker99 Год назад +9

    One mention that I'd like to make is Charles Rosen with his book 'Sonata Forms'. My music theory professor has been using it for many years now. It provides a profound historical overview on the development of the sonata style as well as explaining where the term sonata derived from and why the classical sonata form which is commonly taught is not really suitable and should be opened. I really like it. Great video, greetings from Germany :)

    • @Darkfusion280
      @Darkfusion280 Год назад +1

      Hey thank you for the tip! I’ll be buying this book 😎

  • @user-fu7zf4ck9z
    @user-fu7zf4ck9z Год назад +2

    According to Jörg Demus, it is JS Bach who first used the sonata form in the D major prelude of his WTC Book 2

  • @ShanevsDCsniperr
    @ShanevsDCsniperr Год назад +6

    one of the most excellent video essays on this excellent channel, thanks for all your work!

  • @edwardwalter3100
    @edwardwalter3100 Год назад +5

    Had been waiting for your next video and it was worth the wait. Thank you for all your hard work.

  • @ivankolobov9502
    @ivankolobov9502 Год назад +1

    Glad you’re back!

  • @dionizos0665
    @dionizos0665 Год назад +1

    A lot of interesting knowledge in one accessible video. Good job!

  • @brendaboykin3281
    @brendaboykin3281 Год назад +1

    Thank you,Thomas. Always excellent. Happy 2023.🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @sr-kt9ml
    @sr-kt9ml Год назад +1

    Your videos are awesome, thank you so much for all the hard work you put into this. I very much appreciate this free lesson, very kind and generous of you to provide

  • @LauraTenora
    @LauraTenora Год назад +1

    Ok. So... I have a new favorite channel now. Great job! Thanks!

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 Год назад +1

    Ur back. Whoo!!

  • @suzyserling277
    @suzyserling277 Год назад +1

    Excellent!!….as always thank you so much!!

  • @younghokim1994
    @younghokim1994 Год назад

    Wow, this is amazing resource. Thank you.

  • @Darkfusion280
    @Darkfusion280 Год назад

    I’m currently finishing up the learning of 3 sonatas by Mauro Guiliani, and this video is super helpful, thank you!

  • @robertwaddell8427
    @robertwaddell8427 Год назад

    Wow! “Sonata allegro” as it was taught circa 1971 quite updated approach via texts you presented. Bravo & thanks for well done presentation. BTW enjoyed your piece. Bet you earned an “A”.

  • @user-vy7fp8np1l
    @user-vy7fp8np1l Год назад +1

    I await each new video with expectation. This is one of the best - tough going at times but well worth the effort. PS Is the 1st movement of your symphony the only one recorded so far? I'm intrigued to hear the rest of it.

  • @johnmcallistermusic
    @johnmcallistermusic Год назад

    GREAT VIDEO

  • @JcFiscus42
    @JcFiscus42 Год назад

    Thanks for the effort in this video. You’ve explained many things that I’ve wondered about sonata form and it’s history and where it went after Beethoven. I discovered classical music entirely through Beethovens piano sonatas, and branch out from there. After a while the only way I understood what happened to the sonata was that simply composers were intimidated by what Beethoven did, and did not want to be compared to him. I thought it was a shame because the sonata form or principle (I like that term better) is in my mind the ideal framework for expressing the hero’s journey through sound. I would add to the definition that the sonata principle mirrors the hero’s journey. The first movement in sonata form does this explicitly, and the total sonata in all of its movements combined continue the hero’s journey in different ways. So a sonata is like a fractal of hero’s journeys. It’s a shame that more musicians and composers don’t consider this an opportunity to create a whole new world of expression. I believe this principle can establish totally original “journeys” from every human that “properly” utilizes it. There’s an objective quality to it, in that absolute music, that has been forgotten, and I’ve always attributed it to the intimidation of climbing that mountain Beethoven conquered. The ones to attempt it were like Brahms and Schubert and Liszt and of course some others, but when you fast forward to today it’s clear to see that this idea has been totally forgotten by music artists. I can only guess that the reason is due to its sheer difficulty in achieving it.
    Thanks again for your video.
    Cheers

  • @Invert_Scrub
    @Invert_Scrub 8 месяцев назад +2

    Me: currently driving a Sonata

  • @charlesmccracken7623
    @charlesmccracken7623 Год назад +2

    I enjoy your channel a lot and you help me understand many musical concepts as well. I like your Great Composers as well. I was wondering if you would do one on Benjamin Britten or Luigi Nono? I would love to learn more about them.

  • @jasnesciemnienie9107
    @jasnesciemnienie9107 Год назад

    Great video ;)

  • @kingconcerto5860
    @kingconcerto5860 Год назад

    My personal favorite sonatas + recommended recordings (listed alphabetically by composer):
    Dukas - Piano Sonata in Eb Minor - (Hamelin/Hyperion)
    Feinberg - Piano Sonata #4 in Eb Minor, Op.6 - (Hamein/Hyperion)
    Feinberg - Piano Sonata #6 in B Minor, Op.13 - (Hamelin/Hyperion)
    Godowsky - Piano Sonata in E Minor - (Aleksander/PPR)
    Rachmaninov - Piano Sonata #2 in Bb Minor, Op.36 - (Osborne/Hyperion)
    Scriabin - Fantaisie, Op.28 - (Hamelin/Hyperion)
    Scriabin - Piano Sonata #4 in F# Major, Op.30 - (Hough/Hyperion)
    Sorabji - Piano Sonata #1, KSS.20 - (Hamelin/Altarus)
    Shostakovich - Piano Sonata #1, Op.12 - (Gugnin/Hyperion)
    Szymanowski - Piano Sonata #2 in A Major, Op.21 - (Debargue/Sony)

  • @endodouble6691
    @endodouble6691 Год назад +3

    God your channel is so amazing 😍

  • @willschmidt8284
    @willschmidt8284 Год назад +1

    Can you do a video similar to this and your concerto video on the Symphony? I’m really interested in how it developed over time.

  • @robertrust
    @robertrust Год назад +3

    I often wonder if our musical tradition will cycle back to composers writing in accepted and regular forms. It feels like we’re in an era of experimentation, trying to find something that will stick.

    • @bdellovibrioo5242
      @bdellovibrioo5242 Год назад +2

      In order for this to happen, the contexts and purposes of new music may need to diversify. Right now there's a kind of arbitrariness to form, since new music that serves a commercial purpose such as film is just "film music" for example (i.e. we don't think of it in formal terms). But we recognize an opera Overture as a form, despite the fact that it too served the practical purpose akin to a film score.
      In other words: Formal diversity really does exist but these days we have special reasons for considering that diversity to be outside the classical tradition.

    • @robertrust
      @robertrust Год назад

      @@bdellovibrioo5242 this is an interesting observation. I wonder what reasons we have for considering certain kinds of music outside of the classical tradition in the present day?

    • @pgbpriuvnri
      @pgbpriuvnri Год назад +3

      If you consider pop music tho, it has a really strict and homogeneous form lol.

    • @robertrust
      @robertrust Год назад

      @@pgbpriuvnri haha, true. Though I hear a lot of innovative ideas coming from country music and rap artists.

  • @michaeleaster1815
    @michaeleaster1815 Год назад +2

    22:39 Is that a bit of Phrygian spice (re: Ab note) in the Medial Caesura? If so, is that part of the relish & celebration? Great video! I'm somewhat familiar with the Sonata form but am learning a lot from this.

  • @thomaswenas-bobbiefet5805
    @thomaswenas-bobbiefet5805 Год назад +1

    36:26 Bach has a scherzo in his a minor klavier partita. Its not the same form as the classical scherzo, but he used the term already.

  • @user-im6te6kb8v
    @user-im6te6kb8v 9 месяцев назад

    Good

  • @NidusFormicarum
    @NidusFormicarum 5 месяцев назад

    So how early did the composers start to treat the dominant in the exposition section as an independent new key and not just like a dominant key centre in realation to the tonic key? In a typical dance, for instance, you often see the first part ending in the dominant, but we haven't really changed key in the large scale of things.

  • @ReinholdOtto
    @ReinholdOtto Год назад +1

    Wow.

  • @foulmercy8095
    @foulmercy8095 Год назад +4

    Hello friend. I just found your videos and they have been as informative as they have been entertaining- that is too say they have been wonderful. But, and forgive me if I overstep, I wish to request you make a video- any video- on the great American composer Louis Moreau Gottschalk.
    I found this man on New Year’s Eve and he has transformed my appreciation for music since. A Lisztian figure in his ingenuity who put notation to the creole music of Louisiana seems like he’d be an interesting figure to anyone, but he’s sadly forgotten.
    Forgive me if you have another way of receiving requests- if you still do them anymore. But I had to spread the word so to speak.

  • @clairewithbanjo4992
    @clairewithbanjo4992 Месяц назад

    What is playing at 27:10

  • @musicalintentions
    @musicalintentions Год назад

    ❤️🎵❤️

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics Год назад +3

    waiting for the neo-baroque peeve

  • @Aakhv
    @Aakhv Год назад +1

    Is there any chance you would do a video of the latvian composer Adolf Skulte?

  • @Warp75
    @Warp75 Год назад

    Could you do a video on Frederick Delius
    Thanks

  • @bdellovibrioo5242
    @bdellovibrioo5242 Год назад +1

    CN: "...the organ sonata, which sort of went off on its own and fizzled out sometime in the middle of the 20th century."
    An organist composer somewhere: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."

    • @noiselesspatient
      @noiselesspatient Год назад

      It could be argued that the organ symphony/sonata/suite has never stopped being composed, but like many 'received genres', they aren't called 'sonata' or 'symphony' any more (c.v. Debussy's 'symphony', La Mer, or Ravel's 'sonata', Gaspard de la Nuit).

  • @hadenplouffe3976
    @hadenplouffe3976 Год назад

    Common Classical Nerd W

  • @johannesbowman2194
    @johannesbowman2194 Год назад

    Ideas for new composer biographies:
    Giacomo Puccini
    Jules Massanet
    Charles Gounod

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics Год назад

    "The second coolest Schumann"

  • @joaobalducci1701
    @joaobalducci1701 Год назад

    hi everyone. came to the latest video to make a nerdy question for the ones of u that understand set theory. why tf i can't find the [0,3,4,8] set in Forte's table?

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Год назад

      Because [0348] is not the absolute smallest (i.e. "left-packed") version of that set out there-that would be [0148], which is Forte number 4-19. A handy tool I like to use is the PC Set Calculator at www.mta.ca/pc-set/calculator/pc_calculate.html

    • @joaobalducci1701
      @joaobalducci1701 Год назад

      @@ClassicalNerd thanks, man. really useful site. though i'm familiar with left-packing, i used to just look for the inversionally equivalent set in the table (and don't apply Forte's requirements for normal order after that). it's really hard to find content about the "deeper" music theory online, your channel's great. thanks again.

  • @PhantomKING113
    @PhantomKING113 Год назад +1

    First comment?

  • @robertcecilmorgan-wilde
    @robertcecilmorgan-wilde Год назад

    Dear me, what scholarship and time you pour into your postings. I only wish you were more widely known. Do you teach a clas (es)? Additionally, I need a way to send a contribution that doesn't involve a middle man ~ so, if you wish to provide such a method for me, I'd like to support your work. Rev. Robert. 😍😍😍

    • @ClassicalNerd
      @ClassicalNerd  Год назад

      Thank you, Robert! I taught a music appreciation class last semester at SUNY Buffalo, where I'm in grad school, and my RUclips experience definitely came in handy. (It's hard to be intimidated by a lecture hall of 80 undergrads when you're used to an audience of thousands!)
      Most ways of funding content like this involves _some_ form of middleman, sad to say; Patreon takes a small cut, but in exchange I do post bonus content, channel updates, book reviews, and the like. If you truly want to avoid such platforms ... shoot me an email. :)

  • @abocas
    @abocas Год назад +1

    I am lost from the beginning .... and it irritates me.
    So I just accept that the thing called sonata is just ..... called a sonata. End of story.

    • @blackmage1276
      @blackmage1276 22 дня назад

      You can watch the video and end up with the same conclusion, as everything in music in the last 70 years has boiled down to anything can be anything. That's not a bad thing, to be clear.

  • @FelipevonMontfort
    @FelipevonMontfort Год назад +1

    Adolf Marx? That can't be good...

  • @mac1024
    @mac1024 4 месяца назад

    Why use a computer to play music in a boring way?

    • @nicksgottheaux6445
      @nicksgottheaux6445 2 месяца назад

      Because that was probably too much of the work to get away with using a recording on RUclips.