@@TheCarsfan4ever I think it is Kobe's actually it was just when he was 15 or 16 so obviously his signature is gonna change once he became a NBA player and adult.
I was tired in an airport line in Mexico and thought fuck it, I'll sign up for TSA Precheck right now. Clicked on the first link on Google, paid the $200 fee or whatever it was, and that was that. I check my email the next day, and realize I had another $90 fee to pay and that the email wasn't from a .gov address. I immediately looked them up and found tons of people saying that was a scam site. I emailed them and told them to refund me, or I'd report them to my bank for fraud. They immediately refunded me and sent me a nice email. I even got to keep my appointment with TSA since they did actually submit my application. Scammers don't want friction. They want to fly under the radar as long as possible. The best kind of scammer is the one that makes a happy customer.
All the upvotes. 🤦♂️ Let's just throw our money at a guy solely because he's nice to us meanwhile nobody will authenticate his product that "claims" to be legit. All of you are easy marks. You're exactly what Nigerian and Indian scammers look for. Gullible and naive with zero street smarts.
You're an easy person to scam then lol xDDD Scammers are some of the coolest, most personable people you will ever meet. That's why you drop your guard and BOOM. He stole all your money
I mean that should be the normal way to deal with stuff like this, not even stuff like this, more like everything to be honest. Just be respectful and kind all u gotta do fr
@@MistahHeffoPSA, TWN Galaxies, SGC, and CGC, all regulatory bodies. All of them have been sued for deceptive business practices. That’s not a good sign for the legitimate merit of any in the space.
so all i gotta do is seem genuine and take returns if im running a scam since i know another sucker will buy it anyway? Hmmm they are naiiivveee....now i know why scams exist! 😂 Its honestly a 50/50. He could have been completely truthful or he's not the dumbest scammer in the world and knows its a good replica and another person will buy it anyway and eventually someone will keep it. Allows you to keep your scam going if you accept returns vs the buyer processing a claim against you. Seems like common sense to me. So definitely 50/50 here. Could go either way. Wouldn't be worth the risk for me as a buyer and a collector. I would need to know thats its 100% authentic without a shadow of a doubt. Otherwise ill spend the rest of my life wondering if its potentially a fake. Esp if im spending a lot of money.
@@RSpracticalshooting no he said "my sister is the same age as Kobe and we went to the neighboring school." I took that to mean Kobe would go around to high schools in the area like Overbrook or wherever and sign things. Even if he was a few years out of high school, his autograph would change substantially. He went to the league as a kid
@@realelplaga explain to me why a random high schooler at the time would just go around signing basketballs for no reason? Watch the video again and come back.
@@uprising1557 he was known as the next mj? everything about hi. led him too be just an amazing ball player and he was that way from a young age so why would it not make sense 🤷
I wouldn't say I'm 100% convinced that its authentic, but I am 100% in agreement with what the seller says about the rating system. You just have to use your own judgement these days and go from there.
He stamped his credibility with me when he not only handled the unhappy customer with awesome professionalism, but the offer to take it back sealed the deal man
@@sneakynuna lot pf brick and mortar stores have ebay stores and list their info. The invoice couldve also had a contact number. Sellers will often write things like "contact me with any issues before reporting to eBay." As they want to keep their #'s high for cust satisfaction.
@@alexlayne967 I bought a Japanese figure once and it was sent with a fake hand (3d printed imo). I messaged the guy and he straight up started insulting me. He said I could return it if I paid for shipping, I sent a ticket to eBay with pictures of the fake vs a real, and in the meantime he accidentally refunded me without a need for shipping. eBay then claimed my reporting was invalid and that the hand was real, and the guy got his money back too 😂. I ended up selling the figure to some guy for 30 instead of the 70 I paid and the guy told me to just throw away the fake hand. Moral of the story: ebay doesn't know shit
Dude knows it’s real. And knows he will sell it if you send it back. Lucky for him you recorded this call. Dude is running a clean operation. And hopefully gets more business.
@@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly with the information gathered from this clip, there is no definite answer to its authenticity. We can only speculate, so anybody's opinion is valid, at least until he gets another expert or two to look at it.
@@r33th not saying whether in this case it’s real or not, but as a Philly native, Kobe would do that kinda thing whenever he was around, so it’s very much possible.
I will bet anything it is fake, while PSA I don't really trust as I assure you they authenticate fake signatures, I agree with them in their assessment especially "Excessive pen pressure" Kobe isn't putting much effort into his auto, whoever made that auto put effort into it
Dude seemed legit, had a good backup story and offered to refund it, I think he knows it’s legit. Especially in settings where they’re signing a lot, I saw a “celebrity” autograph that was just a scribble and line, no kidding. I had Ronald Reagan’s autograph when he visited my school in 4th grade, it was just 2 “R’s”
Look at your own signature. Mines all over the place. now imagine if you did that all the time for random strangers half drunk outside of a club after playing a show while you’re just trying to smoke a cigarette. Autograph authentication is an educated guess at best scam at worst.
I don't know... Selling 100 signed basket balls and refunding the 20 who complain or question it, is a great way to maintain reputation and make a killer profit. It's on the list of unethical business models that have proven successful for some scammers.
@@geesegoose6174 fr lol, and besides the sellers story seemed pretty tight, but either way you have a 5050 chance of getting a true autograph of his early years or not… 400$ and now 200 to have psa or beckett say it’s not.. but only cause we don’t know.. oh btw that’s 200$ 🥸 wtf LOL. Seller even offered to refund his cash and take it back so I’m like 98% on the sellers side and I believe him like 80% it’s real
Dude was pretty chill, even offered to refund you if you have doubts on the product. Item description didn't say any lies they only specified that in their opinion they believe it is authentic but can't guarantee it. Really it's up to you what you're doing with this tho.
I never understood autographs tho. Because usually with authentication, they usually look at size, and loops, if that person stop wrote or stop again just to write his signature. Or if it's the same signature. I mean, over the years signatures may change for that individual, or the size, Bal point, will look different. Even when I'm doing my signature sometimes it looks different or I may make a loop a tiny bit bigger or smaller at times. Signatures is definitely weird.
Oh he sounds genuine so he must be genuine? That is exactly what scammers love to hear, and thats how they successfully scam people. By acting genuine.
@@knekoosh1613 that's not how scammers work. Sales on these things aren't guaranteed, if they're grifters they wouldn't even pick the call to begin with and if it's some sorta long scheme, it's cheaper to just fake another autograph than take back the ball.
@@knekoosh1613 Do you know how the concept of time works if it was a scammer and they got money already they wouldn't take back the ball back and sell it to someone else because they would lose time and potentially not find a buyer for some time
Obviously there is no way to be 100 percent the same but key aspects of the signature will remain the same. Like always putting a line on top of a Capitol “J”, a loop for “t” rather than a single line, doing a dash rather than a dot above a “I”, the spacing, and even add ons like a small picture with their signature. That is how they determine if it’s real or not. Vincent Price would draw himself above his signature. Walt Disney would do a Mickey Mouse after his signature.
That's right I went to the bank after losing my id and the staff on that day did not know me however they checked my signature and it was slightly different and they questioned this itwas virtually the same except one part was more elongated etc anyway I explained I only needed a few hundred besides you got cameras and I know x who works on Friday and so on so they gave it to me . However that signiture was signed 15-20 years ago when I opened it so off course it would not be 100% matched it was 98% the 2% was the elongated part but anyone could tell it was similar also I wrote it fast because most people can't forge unless they do it slowly and can do it fast after extensive practice but I wanted to sign fast to show its mine. Anyway yeah you are right no two signatures are EXACTLY the same
@@facenut @thisbk22 the commenter meant “the seller said “you can send it back” because the autograph costs a lot more now 😂” aka the seller is happy to take the ball back so he can refund the guy and sell the ball to someone else at a much higher price.
The fact that the seller somehow never brought anything to the authenticators as they barely tricked people by stealing their money and handing out a piece of paper is very unnice.
My vote is this guy is legit. The way he talks... he ain't a scammer. He just doesnt want an unhappy customer and hes clearly knowledgeable and sounded pretty exact with the way it goes.
Told you his whole backstory and everything, honestly if he’s lying he’s really really good at it, he didn’t pause or stutter like he was coming up with these details, and he immediately gave a detailed explanation of why they wouldn’t authenticate the ball, as well as his words being backed by the piece of paper they sent you for your $215
@@jamesmekhael3988 or he’s just a liar. You haven’t met a pathological liar yet. They lie so well they borderline convince themself of the story, it’s how the lie is sold so well. He may not be lying but, just always keep this in mind.
@@DDaltonn I suggest looking into the Deception Detective on YT, he says a lot about the language people will use when lying and how people lie. This guy pretty much nailed the checklist for telling the truth. Everything was short sweet and to the point along with direct language. He even offered to take a return.
@James Mekhael You know why the story was good? Because it's be rehearsed and used by his company before. Obviously, he's going to refund the one person who checked. Because the other 387 people who bought one didn't check.
@dubaibank rule 1 of selling stuff. Don't sell fakes 😴 bro no matter how much you licked my ass if you're tryna sell me something that's fake and pass it off as legit, I'm getting my money back regardless. Whether I gotta beat it out ya or have a court tell you. Little thing called consumer rights bud
He’s right about Beckett to, their card grading recently took a big dive in people using them after a video came out of someone using PSA getting a 10 and then sending the exact card to Beckett and getting an 8!
I think it’s always been like that though. BGA 10’s are unbelievably rare, they seriously don’t hand out BGA 10’s to almost anything. PSA 10’s are exponentially more common.
Not if they are claiming lies about the authenticators. and then refusing to work with authenticators. Those are red flags. Everything this seller said was a red flag.
@@idontplay3v3No but when you have thousands of well documented signatures from someone like Kobe patterns still show up, even considering the differences. They will almost certainly never say “we know with 100% certainty this signature is fake”. They’ll just say they can’t authenticate it. I get your point though for sure.
True, I'm just a bit curious as well ! How could they authenticate without witnessing it?!? Wtf, how can they authenticate witness picaso? This is Kobe, this is much more recent to authenticate.
Definitely, my sister actually got a signed poster from post Malone twice only because her best friend worked for post Malone production company so she got back stage tickets twice where she got it signed twice, one I’m 2017 and one in 2021. The thing is, the signature is quite different, the 2021 seemed like he quickly signed it, detail. 2017 Malone wrote her name and signed it with a lot more detail signature.
Exactly like on that list it says “written slowly”. How the hell can you tell if you wrote it slowly??? As well, it’s a basketball it’s gonna look different it’s a bigger signature as well, the ball has the grip ripples which makes it hard to write on.
@@dribble.2kwrld345 also the size of the marker top too would make it different size as if he signed with a needle point pen. Also who signs the same EXACT signature every time for their whole life ?
@@calebmoss3823 exactly. I don’t I mean I do now. I just stick with my initials which is DSJR but it’s still not the exact same every time. Just even like if you didn’t write signature. Just if I wrote my name alone not in cursive it’s not gonna be the exact same no matter what. As well like said in the video the list that Beckett sent it said “writing was slow”. How can they tell if someone wrote slow or not??
lol he lied and passed the buck of blame onto the authenticators, because the alternative was to admit the signature is fake. For starters, when they look at signatures they're not looking to perfect matches that look identical, they're looking at the fine details, like pressure and lines and how they usually shape letters in a general fashion. The signature on that ball is so vastly different than actually authenticated signatures that there are not even minor similarities in it. Almost as if it was written with a different hand with a different grip making different strokes. Hence why the authenticators went about describing the fine details. But it's also not an exact science, which is why they use words like "our opinion" the same way a historian might say "in my opinion" about some historical fact. Because you cannot be 100% certain, and why would them being dead make it so the rules change. Might as well say you don't authenticate ANY signatures unless you witness it, whether their dead or alive. Their story makes no fucking sense whatsoever. He lied, and lied more, and then accused others of doing wrong.
unfazed makes me wonder why he was unfazed almost as he was expecting it because he knows it's fake. Then he stuttered and doesn't say the school he went to like he didn't know the school he went to just the "neighboring high school"
@@yimmy7160 I sell and buy online. Believe when I say that his response sounds genuine and he wasn’t trying to dispute the legitimacy of the claim. Also the name of the neighboring school is useless information and doesn’t matter much regarding the authenticity of the ball. Also the seller was 100% correct about companies being strict with authenticating merch of dead people. I guess you watch clickbaity videos and just fall for all the exaggerations.
The fact that he spoke to you after you called with an issue and calmly went through everything on why that problem wpuld occur is an amazing start. But, the whole refund thing just seals the deal
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Not only was the dude really chill, he even offered to take the ball back and give your money back. That's surprising but in a nice way.
@@crunchybannana2267 my point exactly, since it's something they're very much willing to do it's certain that they're not trying to scam anybody.
@@TheCarsfan4ever I think it is Kobe's actually it was just when he was 15 or 16 so obviously his signature is gonna change once he became a NBA player and adult.
@@andrewharbison720 signatures from his younger years would usually cost more, not less, which makes it even more surprising
Imagine the seller says “ oh yeah , I said you can send it back but never said I’d give your money back “ 😂😂
@@TheCarsfan4ever probably cuz people think it’s fake since it cant get approved as being legit
Bro was legit. The scammer is the company that printed a 215$ paper for you 😂
100% hahah 200 dollar for the paper when the ball was like 400?! 😂
If you believe dude was legit, I have a bridge to sell you in a desert because holy shit you're gullible
@@chanel777The guy never showed the price of the ball so I don’t get where your getting 400$ from 😂😂!!!!!!!!????
@@telipale4057i think he showed the price in the previous video when he first bought it
@@telipale4057are you okay buddy? He quite clearly showed the price of the ball.
He had strong points, was very chill, and offered you a refund, I think it’s real
Maybe that's his whole scam, he doesn't care to take it back cause someone else will buy it.
I used to sell fake clothes and I always offered to take it back because I was scared of the popopoliceeee
But the guy cool u right
I was tired in an airport line in Mexico and thought fuck it, I'll sign up for TSA Precheck right now. Clicked on the first link on Google, paid the $200 fee or whatever it was, and that was that. I check my email the next day, and realize I had another $90 fee to pay and that the email wasn't from a .gov address. I immediately looked them up and found tons of people saying that was a scam site. I emailed them and told them to refund me, or I'd report them to my bank for fraud. They immediately refunded me and sent me a nice email. I even got to keep my appointment with TSA since they did actually submit my application.
Scammers don't want friction. They want to fly under the radar as long as possible. The best kind of scammer is the one that makes a happy customer.
@@ConniseurHQion think you get insoluble for scamming someone
@@Iggyprofess what does that mean
Whoever you bought that from is a pure professional. I'd definitely buy from him. Chill, respectful and wanting the customer to be happy.
It's obviously fake 😭 I can't believe you think it's real 😂 standard ebay scammer right there
All the upvotes. 🤦♂️ Let's just throw our money at a guy solely because he's nice to us meanwhile nobody will authenticate his product that "claims" to be legit. All of you are easy marks. You're exactly what Nigerian and Indian scammers look for. Gullible and naive with zero street smarts.
@@Ovahlls Scammers don't offer you your money back, moron.
@@Ovahllsnoone said its real, can you not read?
@@Ovahllshe never mentioned anything about a ball being real
Bro almost convinced me to buy sumn with how cordially he handled that call 😭
You're an easy person to scam then lol xDDD Scammers are some of the coolest, most personable people you will ever meet. That's why you drop your guard and BOOM. He stole all your money
@@chrishansen5784 bro you are 10 look how you write a reply...
@@mortarq people write all types of ways dawg quit assuming random shi
That’s because this is an ad.
@@mortarq should i be short and bland like you? Add nothing of value to anything i comment on?
Seller handled that call with real professionalism. Made me feel good to be a human 😅
Gay cringe 🤮
Still prolly cap
Or he's a really good liar
I mean that should be the normal way to deal with stuff like this, not even stuff like this, more like everything to be honest. Just be respectful and kind all u gotta do fr
@@grizzzymd being profesional doesn't correlate to lying or not. nobody said he was telling the truth just that he's professional
All I'm gonna say is, every time I write my signature it looks different lol
100% no two of my signatures are even remotely the same. It's the Authenticators who are the scammers
@@MistahHeffoPSA, TWN Galaxies, SGC, and CGC, all regulatory bodies.
All of them have been sued for deceptive business practices. That’s not a good sign for the legitimate merit of any in the space.
Me to bro , every signature is a new adventure every time I gotta sign 😊
On everything
It’s not supposed to be….but mine is just scribbled cursive rough looking no rhyme or reason it’s unique though
Store owner seemed genuine. And offered money back. You got yourself a Kobe ball
I wish Kobe signed my balls 😢
so all i gotta do is seem genuine and take returns if im running a scam since i know another sucker will buy it anyway? Hmmm they are naiiivveee....now i know why scams exist! 😂 Its honestly a 50/50. He could have been completely truthful or he's not the dumbest scammer in the world and knows its a good replica and another person will buy it anyway and eventually someone will keep it. Allows you to keep your scam going if you accept returns vs the buyer processing a claim against you. Seems like common sense to me. So definitely 50/50 here. Could go either way. Wouldn't be worth the risk for me as a buyer and a collector. I would need to know thats its 100% authentic without a shadow of a doubt. Otherwise ill spend the rest of my life wondering if its potentially a fake. Esp if im spending a lot of money.
If he signed it in high school its gonna be substantially different than any recent autograph
No, he signed it for the high school because that's where he used to go.
@@RSpracticalshooting no he said "my sister is the same age as Kobe and we went to the neighboring school." I took that to mean Kobe would go around to high schools in the area like Overbrook or wherever and sign things. Even if he was a few years out of high school, his autograph would change substantially. He went to the league as a kid
@@realelplaga explain to me why a random high schooler at the time would just go around signing basketballs for no reason? Watch the video again and come back.
@@uprising1557 he was known as the next mj? everything about hi. led him too be just an amazing ball player and he was that way from a young age so why would it not make sense 🤷
Dude was famous in highschool, B4 social media... He had to be signing autographs. The celebrity shit was just different back then.
I thought he was gonna get cussed out but the dude was pretty chill
The ball's real. Sellers right here.
I wouldn't say I'm 100% convinced that its authentic, but I am 100% in agreement with what the seller says about the rating system. You just have to use your own judgement these days and go from there.
that a professional scammer
He’s very understanding like we need more people like this honesty and kindness
That was a stand up seller. He was very customer oriented and even offered for you to return the ball. That's a real reseller!
Seemed legit to me he even offered to take it back so that gives him more credibility in my opinion
Nobody else like the comment… because you know why 😂
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Bro sounds like he helps a security guard through the first few nights of his new job.
man behind the slaughter
Huh???
I'm gonna take a random guess and assume this is an Among Us reference right?
@@MrBeenus coreect
"the animatronics may get a bit quirky at night"
Wow, an honorable seller. Knowledgeable, had the history with Kobe, and most important, offered a return, no questions asked. Props to you.
Great service. Good honest, business. Couldn't be more professional than that.
I have always questioned autograph authenticators. I cannot write my name the same every time.
Agree
@A Nice Guy Have A Nice Day ^^ nothing you said is true lol. You're clearly a child. Nice run-on.
@@aniceguyhaveanicedayyeah man, cause actors dont sign napkins all the fuckin time
Same, when i watch pawn stars
My signature is never the same and often has extra letters in it that are legible compared to the actual signature.
He stamped his credibility with me when he not only handled the unhappy customer with awesome professionalism, but the offer to take it back sealed the deal man
Fake video. There is no way to contact a eBay seller on personal numbers.
@@sneakynunThis is Etsy not ebay lol
@@sneakynuna lot pf brick and mortar stores have ebay stores and list their info. The invoice couldve also had a contact number. Sellers will often write things like "contact me with any issues before reporting to eBay." As they want to keep their #'s high for cust satisfaction.
@@sneakynunif it’s a business with a eBay website they normally leave their website name on it so you can call with concerns on their business phone…
It’s still fake
Dude was extremely comfortable on the phone, wasn't any wavering in his voice. Dude seemed honest, I'd keep that ball.
Customer service done right. Informative, respectful and even offered a refund.
Let's just say if they were trying to scam you, it takes balls to pick up your call and talk to you about it while also offering you to return it lol.
Yeah I'm pretty surprised how they handled it honestly. This series was surprising
He could also just be playing dumb, I've had people do that that have sold me fake stuff. They let you return it so you can't leave bad feedback
@@alexlayne967 they dont have to risk losing money though
Lmao maybe naive as fuck
@@alexlayne967 I bought a Japanese figure once and it was sent with a fake hand (3d printed imo). I messaged the guy and he straight up started insulting me. He said I could return it if I paid for shipping, I sent a ticket to eBay with pictures of the fake vs a real, and in the meantime he accidentally refunded me without a need for shipping. eBay then claimed my reporting was invalid and that the hand was real, and the guy got his money back too 😂. I ended up selling the figure to some guy for 30 instead of the 70 I paid and the guy told me to just throw away the fake hand.
Moral of the story: ebay doesn't know shit
Dude knows it’s real.
And knows he will sell it if you send it back.
Lucky for him you recorded this call. Dude is running a clean operation. And hopefully gets more business.
Buddy no he’s just a good salesman and has had that same talk before.
@@Axel227 you are clueless. The ball is real. I'm from Philly and Kobe would do this up at lower merion all the time
@@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly with the information gathered from this clip, there is no definite answer to its authenticity. We can only speculate, so anybody's opinion is valid, at least until he gets another expert or two to look at it.
@@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly sure and anyone could lie and say they have one of those balls
@@r33th not saying whether in this case it’s real or not, but as a Philly native, Kobe would do that kinda thing whenever he was around, so it’s very much possible.
I’m with the seller on this one, seems a genuinely nice helpful guy
Thats an authentic signature for sure. Just listening to him on the phone its legit
I will bet anything it is fake, while PSA I don't really trust as I assure you they authenticate fake signatures, I agree with them in their assessment especially "Excessive pen pressure" Kobe isn't putting much effort into his auto, whoever made that auto put effort into it
Dude seemed legit, had a good backup story and offered to refund it, I think he knows it’s legit. Especially in settings where they’re signing a lot, I saw a “celebrity” autograph that was just a scribble and line, no kidding. I had Ronald Reagan’s autograph when he visited my school in 4th grade, it was just 2 “R’s”
Look at your own signature. Mines all over the place. now imagine if you did that all the time for random strangers half drunk outside of a club after playing a show while you’re just trying to smoke a cigarette. Autograph authentication is an educated guess at best scam at worst.
Or he is very smart.
Everything he told him over the phone legitimately added up. Definitely a solid source if you ask me.
I don't know...
Selling 100 signed basket balls and refunding the 20 who complain or question it, is a great way to maintain reputation and make a killer profit.
It's on the list of unethical business models that have proven successful for some scammers.
😂😂😂Lol so true
That's how you do customer service! 👏
Now stop being an annoying customer
@@ilikeanimals5015 worddd
@@ilikeanimals5015I wouldn’t really call that annoying.
The seller deserves the world man. It’s so good to see great customer service
Great customer service. Professional, calm and receptive.
I mean as soon as I saw how much you paid to get it authenticated, I’m on the the sellers side on this one 😂
for real, that's the REAL scam
I agree
How much do they charge
@@albertphillips3313 the video posts the price, over $200 for a certification that 'they can't verify it' lmfao
@@geesegoose6174 fr lol, and besides the sellers story seemed pretty tight, but either way you have a 5050 chance of getting a true autograph of his early years or not… 400$ and now 200 to have psa or beckett say it’s not.. but only cause we don’t know.. oh btw that’s 200$ 🥸 wtf LOL. Seller even offered to refund his cash and take it back so I’m like 98% on the sellers side and I believe him like 80% it’s real
Dude was pretty chill, even offered to refund you if you have doubts on the product. Item description didn't say any lies they only specified that in their opinion they believe it is authentic but can't guarantee it. Really it's up to you what you're doing with this tho.
I never understood autographs tho.
Because usually with authentication, they usually look at size, and loops, if that person stop wrote or stop again just to write his signature. Or if it's the same signature.
I mean, over the years signatures may change for that individual, or the size, Bal point, will look different. Even when I'm doing my signature sometimes it looks different or I may make a loop a tiny bit bigger or smaller at times.
Signatures is definitely weird.
@@j.rjunior5584 my signature looks very different every time even though I do the same signature. So yeah idk hoe they tell what's authentic
No he said that the ball was signed by kobe but he can't get it authenticate it item is described as being signed by kobe
@@j.rjunior5584 fr like tf they expect kobe to be a human printer
He can send it to me. I’d be honored to have it
The guy sounds so genuine that it might actually be signed
Oh he sounds genuine so he must be genuine? That is exactly what scammers love to hear, and thats how they successfully scam people. By acting genuine.
This is called a smooth talker.
I mean if they offer for you to give it back then it seems pretty legit imo
They can just scam someone else that’s why they want it back 💀
@@knekoosh1613 no, thats dumb. Why would they spend extra time to get the ball back, and send him the money too just to wait for another buyer.
@@zepperdepep cause that buyer dosent want the ball cause he’s not sure it’s real and they can just get the money back with the other sell….
@@knekoosh1613 that's not how scammers work.
Sales on these things aren't guaranteed, if they're grifters they wouldn't even pick the call to begin with and if it's some sorta long scheme, it's cheaper to just fake another autograph than take back the ball.
@@knekoosh1613 Do you know how the concept of time works if it was a scammer and they got money already they wouldn't take back the ball back and sell it to someone else because they would lose time and potentially not find a buyer for some time
How many people actually sign there names the exact way every time
Obviously there is no way to be 100 percent the same but key aspects of the signature will remain the same. Like always putting a line on top of a Capitol “J”, a loop for “t” rather than a single line, doing a dash rather than a dot above a “I”, the spacing, and even add ons like a small picture with their signature. That is how they determine if it’s real or not. Vincent Price would draw himself above his signature. Walt Disney would do a Mickey Mouse after his signature.
That's right I went to the bank after losing my id and the staff on that day did not know me however they checked my signature and it was slightly different and they questioned this itwas virtually the same except one part was more elongated etc anyway I explained I only needed a few hundred besides you got cameras and I know x who works on Friday and so on so they gave it to me . However that signiture was signed 15-20 years ago when I opened it so off course it would not be 100% matched it was 98% the 2% was the elongated part but anyone could tell it was similar also I wrote it fast because most people can't forge unless they do it slowly and can do it fast after extensive practice but I wanted to sign fast to show its mine.
Anyway yeah you are right no two signatures are EXACTLY the same
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@@kennymccormick8295 get a life
@@jameshealy2375 get an education
At least he said he could take the ball back and he was being kind❤
He's right about the authentication companies they have been caught lying.
Bro gave info and didn’t seem bothered at all, offered to take it back I mean what a good guy
Dude seemed legit tbh and what he's saying makes sense as it's a very "hot" product to fake so they don't want there name against possible fakes
That was the most chill dude if he even was trying to scam you he even offered a refund
The guy passed the vibe check so hard. Great attitude to what could be a difficult social situation to navigate.
He sounds genuine and gave you the choice to send it back..
Ngl the story sounds kinda true
Doesn’t make it true tho
@@jeffreydavis2578 doesn’t make it not true
@@imadeyoureadthis1500 Aight go off and buy fake shit and get scammed I could care less
Idk why they even offered a refund. Guy got exactly what he paid and should learn to read.
@@jeffreydavis2578 never said i would buy anything, nice assumption
He seemed really genuine. Seems like a great seller.
That seller is legit. Scammers yell and scream and block you. Rest easy my guy.
Wow. Sounded like a real cool dude. Even offered money back if youre not happy with it.
He’s like “you can send it back “ cuz that shit cost a lot more now 😂
Bro what
@@facenut lmao fr I don't understand him either
@@facenut @thisbk22 the commenter meant “the seller said “you can send it back” because the autograph costs a lot more now 😂” aka the seller is happy to take the ball back so he can refund the guy and sell the ball to someone else at a much higher price.
@@facenut you slow?
@@thisbk2290 you slower?
At least he answered and talked to you instead of blowing you off... Even told you if you want you could send it back that's pretty damn cool
The fact that the seller somehow never brought anything to the authenticators as they barely tricked people by stealing their money and handing out a piece of paper is very unnice.
The customer service alone would make me keep the ball. Gotta love great customer service
Seriously, the Kobe autograph (authentic or otherwise) is just a bonus lol
Lol sucker
Jesus. "Yeah, I'd pay $200 for a basketball and having someone talk to me nicely for two minutes."
The fact this man said he would take it back and tried to explain made me honestly believe him
My vote is this guy is legit. The way he talks... he ain't a scammer. He just doesnt want an unhappy customer and hes clearly knowledgeable and sounded pretty exact with the way it goes.
Told you his whole backstory and everything, honestly if he’s lying he’s really really good at it, he didn’t pause or stutter like he was coming up with these details, and he immediately gave a detailed explanation of why they wouldn’t authenticate the ball, as well as his words being backed by the piece of paper they sent you for your $215
He hit all of the points and was super chill about the situation, even offered to take it back. Balls in your court man.
Pun intended?
@@crnpheonix2507 lol yes of course
I believe him. Companies are corrupt.
Most respectful “what are you gonna do about it” ever
I think the seller is telling the truth, he knew exactly what to say and he didn’t stutter or anything
What a pleasant seller! That's real customer service
That shits real Stevie, that guy was being honest
The seller ain't the scammer. It's the ones who sold you a paper telling you questionable info for 200 some bucks.
Dude was a legit businessman and his ego was in check. I would gladly purchase from him.
Made perfect sense. And im skeptical af. Either that or he needs to do more with his lying cause its A1
Homie already is doing more. He’s selling fake balls and then is able to half way convince the buyer it may still be legit 🤣
@@DDaltonn He had a good story behind it so there’s a good chance it’s not fake
@@jamesmekhael3988 or he’s just a liar. You haven’t met a pathological liar yet. They lie so well they borderline convince themself of the story, it’s how the lie is sold so well. He may not be lying but, just always keep this in mind.
@@DDaltonn I suggest looking into the Deception Detective on YT, he says a lot about the language people will use when lying and how people lie.
This guy pretty much nailed the checklist for telling the truth. Everything was short sweet and to the point along with direct language. He even offered to take a return.
@James Mekhael You know why the story was good? Because it's be rehearsed and used by his company before. Obviously, he's going to refund the one person who checked. Because the other 387 people who bought one didn't check.
That man deserves a raise and with how many points he made and how calm and just real he was and the offer to refund it makes me believe it's real
Dude was chill and offered your money back. Seems legit enough.
The fact he said if your not happy with it send it back. That's a legit signature.
Or he’s just trying to cover his ass and hedge his bets that the next person that tries to buy it isn’t going to do as much research
He'll just find someone else to scam and gaslight
@@justinolbrantz7555 who hurt y’all weirdos
@dubaibank rule 1 of selling stuff. Don't sell fakes 😴 bro no matter how much you licked my ass if you're tryna sell me something that's fake and pass it off as legit, I'm getting my money back regardless. Whether I gotta beat it out ya or have a court tell you. Little thing called consumer rights bud
@@dubaibank yeah , Alex B refunds people for fake 007 graphs so this is in no way a sign dealer is legit
He’s right about Beckett to, their card grading recently took a big dive in people using them after a video came out of someone using PSA getting a 10 and then sending the exact card to Beckett and getting an 8!
And PSA it’s hard to get cards 10’s because they are really really picky
YES!!!!!
Idk how people do not know this! IG you have to be a collector to know!
Man psa just gives out 10s tbh. I’ve seen so many cards with terrible centering that got a 10
I think it’s always been like that though. BGA 10’s are unbelievably rare, they seriously don’t hand out BGA 10’s to almost anything. PSA 10’s are exponentially more common.
He’s either an honest man or he’s playing 3D chess.
“I doN’T tHinK iTS tRuE!” Send it back then 😐
Clear concise response and friendly with good context and info that’s accurate I’d say it’s legit
Some people invest more into a lie than you think
I say he's legit
Not if they are claiming lies about the authenticators. and then refusing to work with authenticators. Those are red flags. Everything this seller said was a red flag.
@@flamesofhellstudiowell signatures arent gonna be the same every single time and people signature change over time
@@idontplay3v3No but when you have thousands of well documented signatures from someone like Kobe patterns still show up, even considering the differences. They will almost certainly never say “we know with 100% certainty this signature is fake”. They’ll just say they can’t authenticate it. I get your point though for sure.
@@-Apollo-13If its from when he was younger that explains a lot. It definitly changed a bit at least as he grew older.
@@flamesofhellstudiono ifnyou are in this world everything he says make sence
This dude deserves more business, great way to conduct yourself 👏🏼
Dude was so chill definitely doesn’t seem to be hiding anything or he’s real good at it lol
Dude is legit be happy you have a piece of a legend in your home. If you don’t want it I’ll buy it from you bc I do. Miss you Kobe and Gigi 😢🫶🏻💕👏
I have no interest in collectibles, nor any interest in sports, yet this guy still just made me a loyal customer with his demeanor.
Bro was top chill and confident and even knew what situation u had going on with the ball for it to be fake
We need more business owners
Like him
Scammers who lie about the businesses that authenticate their products so that they can claim anything they have is legit?
The fact he was gonna buy it back makes it legit for me…
That dude was too nice to scam anybody 😂
when the authenticators are the ones scamming you that’s when you know u can’t trust anyone
True, I'm just a bit curious as well ! How could they authenticate without witnessing it?!? Wtf, how can they authenticate witness picaso? This is Kobe, this is much more recent to authenticate.
#R.I.P, BLACKMAMBA Kobe Bryant
They are getting paid no matter they say it's fake or real....🤔
I think it’s definitely real, some of the stuff on the paper from Beckett was stuff you can’t even tell just from examining it
Well like how many people can sign their signature the same exact way everytime ? That’s what I’ve always questioned
Definitely, my sister actually got a signed poster from post Malone twice only because her best friend worked for post Malone production company so she got back stage tickets twice where she got it signed twice, one I’m 2017 and one in 2021. The thing is, the signature is quite different, the 2021 seemed like he quickly signed it, detail. 2017 Malone wrote her name and signed it with a lot more detail signature.
Exactly like on that list it says “written slowly”. How the hell can you tell if you wrote it slowly??? As well, it’s a basketball it’s gonna look different it’s a bigger signature as well, the ball has the grip ripples which makes it hard to write on.
@@dribble.2kwrld345 also the size of the marker top too would make it different size as if he signed with a needle point pen. Also who signs the same EXACT signature every time for their whole life ?
@@calebmoss3823 exactly. I don’t I mean I do now. I just stick with my initials which is DSJR but it’s still not the exact same every time. Just even like if you didn’t write signature. Just if I wrote my name alone not in cursive it’s not gonna be the exact same no matter what. As well like said in the video the list that Beckett sent it said “writing was slow”. How can they tell if someone wrote slow or not??
Who would have thought a scammer would have such good customer support!
That dude seems so chill I’d love to be friends with him tbh
He showed his anger towards the authenticators just basically taking everyone’s money.
And offered to give yours back.
That’s a cool dude.
lol he lied and passed the buck of blame onto the authenticators, because the alternative was to admit the signature is fake. For starters, when they look at signatures they're not looking to perfect matches that look identical, they're looking at the fine details, like pressure and lines and how they usually shape letters in a general fashion. The signature on that ball is so vastly different than actually authenticated signatures that there are not even minor similarities in it. Almost as if it was written with a different hand with a different grip making different strokes. Hence why the authenticators went about describing the fine details. But it's also not an exact science, which is why they use words like "our opinion" the same way a historian might say "in my opinion" about some historical fact. Because you cannot be 100% certain, and why would them being dead make it so the rules change. Might as well say you don't authenticate ANY signatures unless you witness it, whether their dead or alive. Their story makes no fucking sense whatsoever. He lied, and lied more, and then accused others of doing wrong.
If he was a scammer, he would hang up immediately after you saying “why did PSA say it’s not authentic”
Bros gonna be still investigating this Kobe signature 30 years from now
He clearly and calmly explained why the ball is real and why the company won’t guarantee it based on fear
The fact he said u could send it back and talked with ya seems he not lying imo lol
You just gave him more legitimacy by how showing us how honest the guy is. He won me when he said you can send it back😅
That's good customer service right there!!!
Even if the ball would be fake, that bro handled this situation so calm and well that even buyer starts questioning his existence 😂
“If you don’t want it just send it back, somebody else will pay for it”
I didn't expect this he was calm, polite, and made good points, wow, nice
He’s legit. No scammer would offer to give you a refund
That's a true hustler.
Next series: buying a signed micheal jordan ball❤
Maybe but the reason he started this one is because he loves Kobe and always wanted a ball unless he liked mj since he was little maybe not
If his operation is in fact shady I’d be surprised. He was well spoken, unfazed by the claim, and reasonably fair in the resolution option.
unfazed makes me wonder why he was unfazed almost as he was expecting it because he knows it's fake. Then he stuttered and doesn't say the school he went to like he didn't know the school he went to just the "neighboring high school"
@@yimmy7160 I sell and buy online. Believe when I say that his response sounds genuine and he wasn’t trying to dispute the legitimacy of the claim.
Also the name of the neighboring school is useless information and doesn’t matter much regarding the authenticity of the ball.
Also the seller was 100% correct about companies being strict with authenticating merch of dead people.
I guess you watch clickbaity videos and just fall for all the exaggerations.
That is the best customer support ever. Lays facts and says he'll give a refund. 6/5 🌟
They offered to give your money back. Sounds like a good seller to me.
Bro seemed legit to be honest in my opinion.
Gave you a real explanation and even offered to take it back.
Green flag 👌🏽
Bro sounded so nice and he didn’t block immediately ☺️but still scammed
The fact that he spoke to you after you called with an issue and calmly went through everything on why that problem wpuld occur is an amazing start. But, the whole refund thing just seals the deal