When Cincinnati scores 38 or more points this year their record is one win, two losses. The rest of the NFL is 21-0. Zero, no losses, good teams, bad teams, the whole lot.
Agree.H is the defacto GM.He is responsible for the draft and trades.He chooses the personnel.He is more responsible than anyone,for what players,are on the team.Will the Bengals get rid of him? No.Unlike other NFL teams.Bengals ownership,does not care about wins or loses.Or whether the seats get filled in the stadium.Why? Because the NFL,shares revenue,amongst the 32 teams.So,no team,is going to lose money.No matter,how many people actually go to the games.The majority,of all the teams revenue,comes from the huge tv deals,they negotiate.Not attendance at games.
Some of u are flat out luney. Tobin is not the problem. He is not a player developer. Coaching is. For anyone to blame duke tobin is just an idiot that doesnt have a clue. Drafts have been good, its developing these guys and gettin the best out of them. That is the problem. That is coaching. Period
@johnbach2380 lets be real, every team has a few bums that didnt work out. Oline has been the worst lately when it comes to drafting, ill give ya that. But the drafts have been good overall. Last year, every guy drafted, played significant snaps. Yes we miss on some, as every team does. This literally comes down to coaches and players, bottom line
@@cham5275 Miss on some is fine. Out of the league in the 3 years, being drafted in 2nd 3rd rounds is DISASTEROUS. Dax Hill is a question mark. Murphy looks to be serviceable at best. "Good overall". Besides Joe and Jamarr I have no idea what you're talking about.
Here is the question nobody will ask Zac at the press conference: "What did the Super Bowl team have in personnel that this team does not have and why did that happen?"
I love how Jake has ti rationalise the bengals failure by playing down the Steelers offense. Steelers are literally middle of the league, not great but the difference is they play complimentary football. Bengals are putting all their eggs in the Burrow and chase basket and neglecting the rest of the team. Steelers one of the most complete teams in the NFL and your hate fuels them.
Disagree.Most of the high draft picks,over the last few years,for the Bengals,have been on defense.They have just drafted poorly.Look at Dax Hill,for example.He was a first round pick.For years,they could not figure out,is he a safety? Or is he a corner? The answer is,he sucks at both.Look a DE Myles Murphy.They took him in the first round.So far,he is a bust.Poor drafting is killing them.
If we lose to the Cowboys,with a backup QB the seat will be hot in Cincinnati. Lou Anarumo will not be our coordinator next year,he may not finish out the year. So will be the DB’s coach on that side of the ball. Marion Hobby along with Darren Simmons is the only assistant coaches that deserve a job. Zac Taylor will have to learn how to draft and develop a TE,RB and wide receiver #2 behind Jamarr. The new O line coach will have to develop a LG and RG from the draft,as well as Matt Lee. Let’s not forget how bad this O line has played the past 5 weeks. You are right Jake,the Bengals need a GM,along with larger scouting department. Duke Tobin needs to resign after the season. We need a GM here in Cincinnati who can develop players on both sides of the ball.
I've been saying "enough is enough" for literally 50 years with the Bungles. The Browns run a business and as long as Cincinnatians keep buying tickets, they'll keep doing the same. Every organization is perfectly designed to get the results that it gets.
Zac has only had two winning seasons as coach for bengals. How in the world is he not on the hot seat? They need to hire a real coach. Hire Bill B. And let him run this team for three seasons and see what happens. They will be winning SB before the third season. But we all know Zac isn’t going anywhere because he had lucky season and went to SB. Been completely trash four out of 6 seasons.
Unfortunately when you said that the Organization should be embarrassed and there should be some form of accountability, unfortunately there won't be any. I've said it time and time again this organization runs this team like a small business that's afraid to take risks and would rather live in their mediocrity. They believe the draft can fix everything and they have let so much talent walk that has never been fully replaced Whitworth, Bates, Reader, and Higgins is next to name a few. This is the unfortunate culture of Ownership and the Front Office, which doesn't match the passion of us as fans which sucks.
Ultimately the ONLY thing that matters and what is remembered year to year is the postseason performance and who wins the Super Bowl. Marvin Lewis led a hood organization, just sayin.
Agree.This is the same teams,that kept the coach with the worst winning percentage in the history of the NFL,(David Shula),as a head coach for 5 years! Zac isbn't going anywhere.At least until his contract expires.
I will always be confused on why Zach got that 2nd contract. He was a desperation hire who struggled to find a DC who wanted to work with him. Give him credit he accomplished more than most but small franchises like the bengals need a coach with pedigree and resources to make up for the front office shortcomings. Now that we have a practice facility high draft picks and a top 3 qb, there will be amazing candidates wanting this job
He accomplished nothing. He rode the defense to a Super Bowl and then blew that defense up. Only runs the ball to set up the next pass, makes bad decisions under pressure and has lost 9 of 10 first two games in his disastrous tenure. He and should Anarumo should be fired.
It’s the front office they are wasting Burrows prime years. No excuse for letting Reader walk. Not signing better free agents over money. Do they really care about winning. I’m tired of watching winning teams plug holes while we sit on our thumbs. It’s sickening to go thru this with a once in a lifetime quarterback.
This organization needs to completely revamp the whole front office, but who will want a job here when they’re going to have to answer for the cheapness of the ownership? Draft good guys and you’re forced to let them walk. This organization is a joke.
burgh fan. just listening, drafting is tough. consider broderick jones, troy fautanu kenny pickett, roman wilson. the tough part for bengals is there so much skill joe and chase and higgins it’s frustrating. hang in there
The offense is not the problem.They have been scoring 30 plus per game the whole season.The defense is giving up even more points per game! Hence,the 4-8 record.
brown is the one who needs to go. sell the team to someone who is gonna actually make the right moves and not worry about leftover cap at the end of the season. everybody blaming tobin. yea he's sus but brown is the real problem in cincy.
I’ve said numerous times, the bengals are built for the NFC where they play finesse football. That’s why they beat those teams. They are soft like Charmin.
They let the whole defensive backfield go except Britt at Corner.That played in Super Bowl.The front office should be fired.Organization failure.They don't scout players 100 per cent.1 and 5 at home.Ridiculous..Zac can't coach any more.Briing a new coach in.Get Aaron Glenn of Detroit.l Defensive Coordinator..
With as much as you want to say the Steelers offense is bad, it’s actually not since Wilson has taken over. It’s a top 10 offense since he’s been starting
I normally don't listen to these podcasts because I know what I am going to hear. Paul Brown brought this expansion team to Cincinnati in the late 1960s after his time in Cleveland. The entire time he was alive and either coached or ran this team they never won a playoff game on the road. That did not happen until 2021. Folks, Paul Brown, as an owner, a coach in Cincinnati was the beginning of the downfall. His son continued the trend. This is a rich business like family who has never ever drafted well, makes seldom trades never of any value, signs only badly needed free agents and when they do those are not highly rated, Stone was not, Moss was not, Rankin was not, Gesicki was lanquishing on his last teams depth chart, they caused an immediate distraction with the Chase contract situation, they already have proven, like Jesse Bates, the franchise tag means Higgins is gone, Hendrickson had asked for a trade but like a real pro he stayed and is busting his A$$ still 11.5 sacks this year, they will never re-sign him, this roster is not only stacked with starters mentioned not doing anything, but depth, players they drafted they continue to hold who have done absolutely nothing, Trayveon Williams, Chris Evans (IR now but did nothing a year ago, would have been the same this year), Cameron Sample (same as Evans), Joseph Ossai, Myles Murphy, Volson, Drew Sample (signed a 3 year extension, in his sixth year drafted by Cincinnati), finally cut Irwin, Burton ain't making it he is too immature replaced John Ross drafted right before Patrick Mahomes, the DBs they drafted, Dax Hill and DJ Turner (IR) maybe, the rest awful, Njongmeta who was raved about in preseason has never had his name called in the regular season, have to go out and grab Shaka Heyward who has been bounced around from the practice squad to the main roster to being cut and back again, they have a total of five TEs on the roster I guess to help the OL block so you need that much depth there? It is horrible and I really haven't spoken about the default starters. Pathetic illiterate Pratt, soft Hubbard, sick Rankin, terrible Taylor-Britt, over the hill Hilton, while their division rival signed all-pro Derrick Henry the Bungles settled for Zack "backup in Indy" Moss. Stone is overrated and the Bungles keep getting burned by overrated players that played with good players on their former committed teams. Remember historic free agent Brandon LaFell? Brought over from New England, he was terrible, but looked good for the Pats catching passes from Tom Brady so they brought him over to compliment AJ Green. This story is historic and never has a happy ending even in their 0-3 Super Bowl record seasons. This comes down to an ownerships lack of commitment to both it's city and fans. The problem is severe, has never changed, has hounded this franchise for decades since it's inception. Lot's of lows, occasional highs, but years and years of what can only be described as garbage in and garbage out. If you don't make a commitment or invest in it, what do you expect to come out of it? One thing that ALWAYS comes out is the fans ALWAYS take the loss for ALL of it.
In reality.This is what should happen.Duke Tobin,and the whole coaching staff,should be fired.In reality.This is the Bengals.Not only will none of them get fired.They will all get contract extensions.
We know that Lou is a good D coach from 2021. He put it together. The Tallent determinators have issues though. And, on the offensive side, we need better blocking schemes for the rin game. And we need to be able to make adjustments at halftime both on offensive and defensive to turn things around need be.
lol bengal fans are funny 😂😂😂😂 when you talk about the Steelers you have zero clue what they are trying to accomplish. We don’t need 400’yds to win games haven’t you learned smh
No defencive coach can overcome: loss of great safety, loss of leagues best nose tacle, injurys to 2 starting CB's, bad free agent signings, like 3 of them! Who could dowell in that kind of situation?
The problem starts with the fact that the Bengals do not have a real General Manager. Mike Brown tries to fulfill that role, but he is about as effective as Jerry Jones is. With a real General Manager, you have a real search for a head coach and you get a real head coach. With a real general manager, you hire a good scouting staff that can find those obscure players that miss the sights of Mel Kiper, etc. but who can make a difference for a team. With a real head coach, you can get good coordinators who will in turn hire good position coaches. It might be worth the owner's time to have a look at how the Detroit Lions have done things. See how Brad Holmes set up shop and how he recruited Jack Campbell. How they will be a Super Bowl contender for years to come. Joe Burrow and Ja'Mar Chase will only tolerate playing for a mediocre team for so long before they want to go somewhere else.
As a diehard Steelers fan I have to say you guy have good players on D. You guys got out coached. Most of the passing yards were to the RBs getting in behind your LBs. Coach knew your tendencies and greenlit Russ to audible when he saw certain looks all game. The defense wasn’t prepared schematically.
Pretty sure the pick 6 just pissed of Pittsburgh. Obviously Tay-Brit grabbed 14 by the Helmet and pulled him down. So... can really complaint about the refs ya know ? Also chase brown 11 carries 30 yards outside the 40 harder. So was the Running game actually Working ????
Marion Hobby and Darren Simmons are the only assistant coaches that deserve a job! Zac Taylor has 5 weeks to show me,is he the guy? I don’t see any captains on this team motivating players as they come off the field. Your captains like Burrow,Chase,Hendrickson and Hubbard need to be motivating players as they come off the field making plays!
We been waisting draft picks on a RB that saw 1 carry this year,drafting multiple TE’s than never panned out. Wasted money at trade deadline with a backup practice squad RB,then signing a DB that isn’t on the field. Terrible Free agency along with bad drafting the past two years. Let so many captains like Joe Mixon,Jesse Bates,DJ Reader walk out the door. Those are players you build around on that side of the ball,and we didn’t sign any of them. We should have traded Tee Higgins back in March for an early second and late 5th round pick. Mike Brown could have secured the middle of that D line with that 25 million they paid Tee Higgins. We need to let Troy and our new GM take control of this team and scouting department. Duke Tobin needs to step aside,the same way Marvin Lewis did 5 years ago. Mike Brown will have to wrap his head around that,and let Mr.Tobin run off in the sunset. We need a GM Mike,it takes them 6 weeks to get ready for the season,and they have no direction late in the year. The draft and development has to be better,it starts in the scouting department head. We need a GM!
Guys Steelers averaging 27 under Russ wilson. Raven Game All FG Falcons game (opener) under Fields All FG. NOT 3 Games. PITTSBURGH offense on the rise. Cleveland loss Ina BLIZZARD... also 2 blown Deep P.I. s vs Pickens by refs and a total Wiff on Winston TD (4th down) (Herbig had sack brutally obvious hold ignored. Don't act like a 9-3 Steeler team is Trash. That's the Karma that has them Owning both Ohio Teams. Respect
I knew the Bengals was going to ruin Joe Burrows first five seasons when they went and got the offensive lineman from Dallas Cowboys who was on his last leg..Smh Patchwork on the offensive line for a top level quarterback
It really wasn’t that close boys. You were gifted a touchdown right off the bat with that weak ass pick 6. And where did you read the Ravens had a good defense this year?
Fire the lot, sign Chase and Tee. Cut under performing defensive line, linebackers and pass coverige players. Sign a guard and use our young players to see who we can count on!!!! Come on!!!!!
Duke Tobin has got to GO !!! Fans need to buckle down n be serious n not attend games and make em feel it in their pockets!! I have no faith in changes being made !! Zac will be here next year and so will Tobin 😂 this organization is the laughing stock of the NFL!!!
On the surface Duke Tobin has all of the passion energy and obsession with winning as Mike Brown. He has worked under him since he was in his 20’s. I believe he is being trained to run a lot of this organization in the next few years.
That is on Burrow.He is too careless with the ball.He was directly responsible for 3 turnovers Sunday.He was more the cause of them losing,than there terrible defense was.
No reason for sll this talk. They have no players on defense besides trey. And its gonna get worse after they sign chase. If they do. Taylor isnt going anywhere. And its going to get wayyyyy worse.
Over Reaction post-game. You cannot fire a Coach that designed the offense that is scoring 30 points a game. Its not by accident. The two main coaches that need to go is Oline Coach Pollack and Lou and the whole Defensive staff. Bates is playing much better since he left. Bates was hot and cold under Lou. Lou's Defense has always a bend not break. They were never a top defense.
So he deserves no blame because he is an offensive based HC? He has final say on his staff and arguably more say so on draft and FA than any coach in football. The Bengals coaches are part of the scouting process for the draft. His inability to have his team ready to play at the start of a season is also troubling.
@@maanaboulhosn9369 Not blame enough to firing Taylor. Yes, he is overall responsible, but this is totally Lou's defense. Taylor is also responsible for letting Pollick continue as Oline coach. But neither are reasons to fire Taylor.
Good point. It’s a good point. Holy fuck if we’re just 10-15% better in all phases of defense we’re a playoff team. But ZT needs to take responsibility for this team not coming out of the gate better. ZT needs to show more backbone and attitude.
His inability to call effective run plays allows D to tee off on Burrow. Fire him and get a tough defensive coach like Aaron Glenn. He will turn that defense around in 1-2 years
Yeah idk how everyone keeps talking like this Zac Taylor has a lifetime contract. This 🤡 has a top 5 QB and arguably a top 3 receiving duo & Chase Brown who is having a break out year. This 🤡 loses every big game. 41-52-1 coaching record.
When Cincinnati scores 38 or more points this year their record is one win, two losses. The rest of the NFL is 21-0. Zero, no losses, good teams, bad teams, the whole lot.
If I grew up in Cincinnati instead of Pittsburgh - I'd still be a Steeler fan.
I was very happy to see you guys go to the SB a few years back.
Even when we were good and winning we were “soft”. Getting bullied is part of the organizational DNA.
Duke Tobin should 1000 % be answering questions at the podium
Agree.H is the defacto GM.He is responsible for the draft and trades.He chooses the personnel.He is more responsible than anyone,for what players,are on the team.Will the Bengals get rid of him? No.Unlike other NFL teams.Bengals ownership,does not care about wins or loses.Or whether the seats get filled in the stadium.Why? Because the NFL,shares revenue,amongst the 32 teams.So,no team,is going to lose money.No matter,how many people actually go to the games.The majority,of all the teams revenue,comes from the huge tv deals,they negotiate.Not attendance at games.
Some of u are flat out luney. Tobin is not the problem. He is not a player developer. Coaching is. For anyone to blame duke tobin is just an idiot that doesnt have a clue. Drafts have been good, its developing these guys and gettin the best out of them. That is the problem. That is coaching. Period
@@cham5275 Zach Carter and Jackson Carman is because of coaching? 🤣🤣🤣
@johnbach2380 lets be real, every team has a few bums that didnt work out. Oline has been the worst lately when it comes to drafting, ill give ya that. But the drafts have been good overall. Last year, every guy drafted, played significant snaps. Yes we miss on some, as every team does. This literally comes down to coaches and players, bottom line
@@cham5275 Miss on some is fine. Out of the league in the 3 years, being drafted in 2nd 3rd rounds is DISASTEROUS.
Dax Hill is a question mark. Murphy looks to be serviceable at best. "Good overall". Besides Joe and Jamarr I have no idea what you're talking about.
Zac has another year on his contract. So look for him to stay.They let 18 players go from Super Team.All Defensive back field except Britt.
Here is the question nobody will ask Zac at the press conference: "What did the Super Bowl team have in personnel that this team does not have and why did that happen?"
Anyone can figure that out.Just google what players were on the 2020 and 2021,Bengals teams.Then compare them to now.
@@snave59That’s not the point stupid. The point is to hear the coaching staff admit they f’d up.
We don’t play our draft picks we waste them on the bench
Wow, you guys are so right. Love you Maan, you are so right, so Fire Maan for Office!
Thanks for watching!!! We appreciate it
Thanks for DJ Reader!
He's only on loan until you win the Super Bowl! 😂
I love how Jake has ti rationalise the bengals failure by playing down the Steelers offense. Steelers are literally middle of the league, not great but the difference is they play complimentary football. Bengals are putting all their eggs in the Burrow and chase basket and neglecting the rest of the team. Steelers one of the most complete teams in the NFL and your hate fuels them.
Disagree.Most of the high draft picks,over the last few years,for the Bengals,have been on defense.They have just drafted poorly.Look at Dax Hill,for example.He was a first round pick.For years,they could not figure out,is he a safety? Or is he a corner? The answer is,he sucks at both.Look a DE Myles Murphy.They took him in the first round.So far,he is a bust.Poor drafting is killing them.
Wish you guys were the ones asking the questions at the press conferences
If we lose to the Cowboys,with a backup QB the seat will be hot in Cincinnati. Lou Anarumo will not be our coordinator next year,he may not finish out the year. So will be the DB’s coach on that side of the ball. Marion Hobby along with Darren Simmons is the only assistant coaches that deserve a job. Zac Taylor will have to learn how to draft and develop a TE,RB and wide receiver #2 behind Jamarr. The new O line coach will have to develop a LG and RG from the draft,as well as Matt Lee. Let’s not forget how bad this O line has played the past 5 weeks. You are right Jake,the Bengals need a GM,along with larger scouting department. Duke Tobin needs to resign after the season. We need a GM here in Cincinnati who can develop players on both sides of the ball.
The Steelers offense is not awful by no means. Not even close to awful
I've been saying "enough is enough" for literally 50 years with the Bungles. The Browns run a business and as long as Cincinnatians keep buying tickets, they'll keep doing the same. Every organization is perfectly designed to get the results that it gets.
Love you guys. Keep up doing this!
Thanks for watching
Not that the theme is wrong, but Mims and Burton were top 100 picks in last years draft.
Zac has only had two winning seasons as coach for bengals. How in the world is he not on the hot seat? They need to hire a real coach. Hire Bill B. And let him run this team for three seasons and see what happens. They will be winning SB before the third season. But we all know Zac isn’t going anywhere because he had lucky season and went to SB. Been completely trash four out of 6 seasons.
Unfortunately when you said that the Organization should be embarrassed and there should be some form of accountability, unfortunately there won't be any. I've said it time and time again this organization runs this team like a small business that's afraid to take risks and would rather live in their mediocrity. They believe the draft can fix everything and they have let so much talent walk that has never been fully replaced Whitworth, Bates, Reader, and Higgins is next to name a few. This is the unfortunate culture of Ownership and the Front Office, which doesn't match the passion of us as fans which sucks.
You can’t go 0-3 every year
Facts!!
Marvin Lewis almost NEVER lost a game when Cincy scored 25+ pts. Just sayin...
Ultimately the ONLY thing that matters and what is remembered year to year is the postseason performance and who wins the Super Bowl. Marvin Lewis led a hood organization, just sayin.
On the surface Duke Tobin has all of the passion energy and obsession with winning as Mike Brown.
Zach is not getting fired. The Browns Blackburns are not driven by winning for the city, or for the team or for themselves.
Dontbsee Burrow staying too much longer if the team doesn't improve
There's no way the Browns will fire Taylor. They want to squeeze every penny out of every contract that sign someone to.
Agree.This is the same teams,that kept the coach with the worst winning percentage in the history of the NFL,(David Shula),as a head coach for 5 years! Zac isbn't going anywhere.At least until his contract expires.
I will always be confused on why Zach got that 2nd contract. He was a desperation hire who struggled to find a DC who wanted to work with him. Give him credit he accomplished more than most but small franchises like the bengals need a coach with pedigree and resources to make up for the front office shortcomings.
Now that we have a practice facility high draft picks and a top 3 qb, there will be amazing candidates wanting this job
He accomplished nothing. He rode the defense to a Super Bowl and then blew that defense up. Only runs the ball to set up the next pass, makes bad decisions under pressure and has lost 9 of 10 first two games in his disastrous tenure. He and should Anarumo should be fired.
Take a shot every time Coach says "Maan". 😂🤣😂🤣
Ownership and front office are reaping what they sow this year.
Yes they are
It’s the front office they are wasting Burrows prime years. No excuse for letting Reader walk. Not signing better free agents over money. Do they really care about winning. I’m tired of watching winning teams plug holes while we sit on our thumbs. It’s sickening to go thru this with a once in a lifetime quarterback.
Who Dey forever but we as fans should demand more. We are the best fans but, this crap sucks. Ughh!!
This organization needs to completely revamp the whole front office, but who will want a job here when they’re going to have to answer for the cheapness of the ownership? Draft good guys and you’re forced to let them walk. This organization is a joke.
burgh fan. just listening, drafting is tough. consider broderick jones, troy fautanu
kenny pickett, roman wilson. the tough part for bengals is there so much skill joe and chase
and higgins it’s frustrating. hang in there
The offense is not the problem.They have been scoring 30 plus per game the whole season.The defense is giving up even more points per game! Hence,the 4-8 record.
Agreed clean house. This is crazy
brown is the one who needs to go. sell the team to someone who is gonna actually make the right moves and not worry about leftover cap at the end of the season. everybody blaming tobin. yea he's sus but brown is the real problem in cincy.
Right,get real football people in the front office, but when they are all family members. Oh well, guess only thing is to sell the team...😢😮😢
They have to change their system… throwing the ball 50/60 times a game is not a winning formula; especially in the AFC NORTH 😑💯
This
@ “THE”: Past, Present and Future 🥸
I’ve said numerous times, the bengals are built for the NFC where they play finesse football. That’s why they beat those teams. They are soft like Charmin.
Stat of the game, Tee Higgins, Drew Sample and Alex Cappa had the same number of tackles as Sam Hubbard and Trey Hendrickson.
Fire Lou 🔥, Fire Zac 🔥, Fire Simmons, Tobin 🔥, and all the rest of the Bengals coaching staff, there is no reason to wait.
It will never happen but I want Louis Riddick as GM, Belichick as HC, Vrabel as the DC & heir apparent.
We can always dream Chris!
They let the whole defensive backfield go except Britt at Corner.That played in Super Bowl.The front office should be fired.Organization failure.They don't scout players 100 per cent.1 and 5 at home.Ridiculous..Zac can't coach any more.Briing a new coach in.Get Aaron Glenn of Detroit.l Defensive Coordinator..
Winning is not an incentive for the Browns Blackburns, it’s a nice to have.
With as much as you want to say the Steelers offense is bad, it’s actually not since Wilson has taken over. It’s a top 10 offense since he’s been starting
Juat stopping by to say hi. 🖤💛😘
Thanks for dropping in Ken. Enjoy the rest of a testing schedule ahead.
Bill Belichick! He worked for Mike Browns father. Why not get him?
Season was over when we lost to patriots chiefs by 1 Lmao 😅 we shoulda seen it coming
I also agree on THAT'S pretty much!No different from last year on DEFENSE PERIOD!!!😭
I normally don't listen to these podcasts because I know what I am going to hear. Paul Brown brought this expansion team to Cincinnati in the late 1960s after his time in Cleveland. The entire time he was alive and either coached or ran this team they never won a playoff game on the road. That did not happen until 2021. Folks, Paul Brown, as an owner, a coach in Cincinnati was the beginning of the downfall. His son continued the trend. This is a rich business like family who has never ever drafted well, makes seldom trades never of any value, signs only badly needed free agents and when they do those are not highly rated, Stone was not, Moss was not, Rankin was not, Gesicki was lanquishing on his last teams depth chart, they caused an immediate distraction with the Chase contract situation, they already have proven, like Jesse Bates, the franchise tag means Higgins is gone, Hendrickson had asked for a trade but like a real pro he stayed and is busting his A$$ still 11.5 sacks this year, they will never re-sign him, this roster is not only stacked with starters mentioned not doing anything, but depth, players they drafted they continue to hold who have done absolutely nothing, Trayveon Williams, Chris Evans (IR now but did nothing a year ago, would have been the same this year), Cameron Sample (same as Evans), Joseph Ossai, Myles Murphy, Volson, Drew Sample (signed a 3 year extension, in his sixth year drafted by Cincinnati), finally cut Irwin, Burton ain't making it he is too immature replaced John Ross drafted right before Patrick Mahomes, the DBs they drafted, Dax Hill and DJ Turner (IR) maybe, the rest awful, Njongmeta who was raved about in preseason has never had his name called in the regular season, have to go out and grab Shaka Heyward who has been bounced around from the practice squad to the main roster to being cut and back again, they have a total of five TEs on the roster I guess to help the OL block so you need that much depth there? It is horrible and I really haven't spoken about the default starters. Pathetic illiterate Pratt, soft Hubbard, sick Rankin, terrible Taylor-Britt, over the hill Hilton, while their division rival signed all-pro Derrick Henry the Bungles settled for Zack "backup in Indy" Moss. Stone is overrated and the Bungles keep getting burned by overrated players that played with good players on their former committed teams. Remember historic free agent Brandon LaFell? Brought over from New England, he was terrible, but looked good for the Pats catching passes from Tom Brady so they brought him over to compliment AJ Green. This story is historic and never has a happy ending even in their 0-3 Super Bowl record seasons. This comes down to an ownerships lack of commitment to both it's city and fans. The problem is severe, has never changed, has hounded this franchise for decades since it's inception. Lot's of lows, occasional highs, but years and years of what can only be described as garbage in and garbage out. If you don't make a commitment or invest in it, what do you expect to come out of it? One thing that ALWAYS comes out is the fans ALWAYS take the loss for ALL of it.
We are gonna gave a long time with zac taylor. See how long it took to get rid of marvin lewis
😂😂😂😂😂 bungles are back. Fire all of em !!!
In reality.This is what should happen.Duke Tobin,and the whole coaching staff,should be fired.In reality.This is the Bengals.Not only will none of them get fired.They will all get contract extensions.
YES Sir😢
Maybe Mike Brown REALLY don't care PERIOD😢
We know that Lou is a good D coach from 2021. He put it together. The Tallent determinators have issues though. And, on the offensive side, we need better blocking schemes for the rin game. And we need to be able to make adjustments at halftime both on offensive and defensive to turn things around need be.
Taylor doesnt play the type of football you have to play to win in the north
The Bengals need a FireMaan to put out the dumpster fire.
lol..thank you
How many times can you throw a dump off pass to a running back,
Well in an average game.There are 75 offensive plays per team.So the answer is around 75.
Jake got two things wrong this year. The decision to draft Amarius Mims did work out,and his prediction for the Bengals record this year.
lol bengal fans are funny 😂😂😂😂 when you talk about the Steelers you have zero clue what they are trying to accomplish. We don’t need 400’yds to win games haven’t you learned smh
No defencive coach can overcome: loss of great safety, loss of leagues best nose tacle, injurys to 2 starting CB's, bad free agent signings, like 3 of them! Who could dowell in that kind of situation?
The problem starts with the fact that the Bengals do not have a real General Manager. Mike Brown tries to fulfill that role, but he is about as effective as Jerry Jones is. With a real General Manager, you have a real search for a head coach and you get a real head coach. With a real general manager, you hire a good scouting staff that can find those obscure players that miss the sights of Mel Kiper, etc. but who can make a difference for a team. With a real head coach, you can get good coordinators who will in turn hire good position coaches. It might be worth the owner's time to have a look at how the Detroit Lions have done things. See how Brad Holmes set up shop and how he recruited Jack Campbell. How they will be a Super Bowl contender for years to come. Joe Burrow and Ja'Mar Chase will only tolerate playing for a mediocre team for so long before they want to go somewhere else.
As a diehard Steelers fan I have to say you guy have good players on D. You guys got out coached. Most of the passing yards were to the RBs getting in behind your LBs. Coach knew your tendencies and greenlit Russ to audible when he saw certain looks all game. The defense wasn’t prepared schematically.
Appreciate you joining us and thanks for commenting Don. We definitely got outcoached!
Pretty sure the pick 6 just pissed of Pittsburgh.
Obviously Tay-Brit grabbed 14 by the Helmet and pulled him down. So... can really complaint about the refs ya know ?
Also chase brown
11 carries 30 yards outside the 40 harder. So was the Running game actually Working ????
Marion Hobby and Darren Simmons are the only assistant coaches that deserve a job! Zac Taylor has 5 weeks to show me,is he the guy? I don’t see any captains on this team motivating players as they come off the field. Your captains like Burrow,Chase,Hendrickson and Hubbard need to be motivating players as they come off the field making plays!
We been waisting draft picks on a RB that saw 1 carry this year,drafting multiple TE’s than never panned out. Wasted money at trade deadline with a backup practice squad RB,then signing a DB that isn’t on the field. Terrible Free agency along with bad drafting the past two years. Let so many captains like Joe Mixon,Jesse Bates,DJ Reader walk out the door. Those are players you build around on that side of the ball,and we didn’t sign any of them. We should have traded Tee Higgins back in March for an early second and late 5th round pick. Mike Brown could have secured the middle of that D line with that 25 million they paid Tee Higgins. We need to let Troy and our new GM take control of this team and scouting department. Duke Tobin needs to step aside,the same way Marvin Lewis did 5 years ago. Mike Brown will have to wrap his head around that,and let Mr.Tobin run off in the sunset. We need a GM Mike,it takes them 6 weeks to get ready for the season,and they have no direction late in the year. The draft and development has to be better,it starts in the scouting department head. We need a GM!
Guys Steelers averaging 27 under Russ wilson. Raven Game All FG
Falcons game (opener) under Fields All FG.
NOT 3 Games. PITTSBURGH offense on the rise.
Cleveland loss Ina BLIZZARD... also 2 blown Deep P.I. s vs Pickens by refs and a total Wiff on Winston TD (4th down) (Herbig had sack brutally obvious hold ignored.
Don't act like a 9-3 Steeler team is Trash. That's the Karma that has them Owning both Ohio Teams.
Respect
I knew the Bengals was going to ruin Joe Burrows first five seasons when they went and got the offensive lineman from Dallas Cowboys who was on his last leg..Smh Patchwork on the offensive line for a top level quarterback
You guys should look up the Steelers offensive stats with Wilson before you do a show
We are gonna lose chase Higgins and burrow. And I don't blame them
Defense is terrible. Many new players required.
100%
This team plays way too much zone too.
It really wasn’t that close boys. You were gifted a touchdown right off the bat with that weak ass pick 6. And where did you read the Ravens had a good defense this year?
1:07:36 Jake is right it will happen.
just lose out then fire all the coaches.
Bengals D is a practice sqaud team
Fire the lot, sign Chase and Tee. Cut under performing defensive line, linebackers and pass coverige players. Sign a guard and use our young players to see who we can count on!!!! Come on!!!!!
Duke Tobin has got to GO !!! Fans need to buckle down n be serious n not attend games and make em feel it in their pockets!! I have no faith in changes being made !! Zac will be here next year and so will Tobin 😂 this organization is the laughing stock of the NFL!!!
This guys backing the brown family 🤣🤣🤣
Fire the whole defense
Like i said ride with who got u there apple is in miami Mixon is in texas there best players are gone
Losing tyler boyd helped the offense. 🤣
Myles Murphy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Burrow = Dan marino 2024😢😢😢
Stop your crying 😢 😢
The bungals 😂
Steelers dey
On the surface Duke Tobin has all of the passion energy and obsession with winning as Mike Brown.
He has worked under him since he was in his 20’s. I believe he is being trained to run a lot of this organization in the next few years.
Clean house
Who won the ping pong games?
I did 21-14.
Fire the coaches bcuz Burrow keeps turning the ball over?
That is on Burrow.He is too careless with the ball.He was directly responsible for 3 turnovers Sunday.He was more the cause of them losing,than there terrible defense was.
@@snave59stupid comment
No reason for sll this talk. They have no players on defense besides trey. And its gonna get worse after they sign chase. If they do. Taylor isnt going anywhere. And its going to get wayyyyy worse.
😂😂 😂, relax Cincy, Pittsburgh Steelers #1
Bengals Owners, fans, youtubers have one thing in common. Burrow is Good, everyone else is trash. The reason, they only paid him. What a cheap team.
Pratt sucks
Stop acting like zac doesn't need to go he does
Isn't that what they said?
@ericray185 I didn't stay and listen
Dey are the steelers
The Browns are the worst owners in the NFL. The Bengals will be middling to poor forever with the Brown family in control.
Burrow is not rhe best qb in the nfl mahomes is better
Same shit different toilet
ITS THE LITTLE THING THAT KILLING US
SMH
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Stop saying Burrow is the best QB in the NFL. The best QB wins games and Championships and you know. Who that is.
Hahahah Joey b the best qb bruh … skill set. Teams win games not just qb1
Over Reaction post-game. You cannot fire a Coach that designed the offense that is scoring 30 points a game. Its not by accident. The two main coaches that need to go is Oline Coach Pollack and Lou and the whole Defensive staff. Bates is playing much better since he left. Bates was hot and cold under Lou. Lou's Defense has always a bend not break. They were never a top defense.
So he deserves no blame because he is an offensive based HC? He has final say on his staff and arguably more say so on draft and FA than any coach in football.
The Bengals coaches are part of the scouting process for the draft.
His inability to have his team ready to play at the start of a season is also troubling.
@@maanaboulhosn9369 Not blame enough to firing Taylor. Yes, he is overall responsible, but this is totally Lou's defense. Taylor is also responsible for letting Pollick continue as Oline coach. But neither are reasons to fire Taylor.
You need to fire Zac it's all his fault the teams soft he soft
Good point. It’s a good point. Holy fuck if we’re just 10-15% better in all phases of defense we’re a playoff team. But ZT needs to take responsibility for this team not coming out of the gate better. ZT needs to show more backbone and attitude.
His inability to call effective run plays allows D to tee off on Burrow. Fire him and get a tough defensive coach like Aaron Glenn. He will turn that defense around in 1-2 years
Yeah idk how everyone keeps talking like this Zac Taylor has a lifetime contract. This 🤡 has a top 5 QB and arguably a top 3 receiving duo & Chase Brown who is having a break out year. This 🤡 loses every big game. 41-52-1 coaching record.
IFS Zach LEFT the BENGALS WOULD HE finds a new jobs in the NFL?