The Ultimate Imagic/Atari 2600 Tier List - ALL RELEASED GAMES RANKED

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  • Опубликовано: 18 июн 2023
  • Join us for a captivating journey back to the golden era of gaming as we rank every Imagic video game cartridge released for the Atari 2600, organizing them into tiers based on their quality and impact. In this exciting video, we delve into the archives of gaming history, exploring the groundbreaking titles that defined a generation.
    Relive the nostalgia of the Atari 2600 as we meticulously analyze and evaluate each Imagic game, placing them into tiers based on gameplay, graphics, sound, and overall significance. From the legendary classics like "Demon Attack" and "Cosmic Ark" to the hidden gems such as "Fathom" and "Star Voyager", we leave no stone unturned as we examine each game's unique features, gameplay mechanics, and its place in the wider gaming landscape.
    Whether you're a devoted Atari enthusiast or a curious gamer interested in the history of video games, this video provides an engaging and informative experience. Join us as we embark on this epic journey to rank Imagic game for the Atari 2600, carefully placing them into tiers that reflect their quality and significance.
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  • @chazcov08
    @chazcov08 11 месяцев назад +36

    I still remember the day I beat Demon Attack! It took 84 waves to do it, and I called my friend to tell him. He wasn’t home, so I asked his mom to give him the message. I said, “Just tell Kurt, ‘84 waves!’ He’ll know what I mean!” And his mom was like, “Okayyyyyyy…”. LOL! He called me back later and yelled into the phone, “84 WAVES!!!” LOL! Oh, what a fun childhood we had!

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 месяцев назад +4

      You're kidding me!? I need to play it again I guess... after about 30 waves I figured there wasn't anything more. 😥🤣 Silly me

    • @chazcov08
      @chazcov08 10 месяцев назад

      @@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 yup. After you complete the last wave, the screen just goes blank. Nothing more after that.

  • @IuriFiedoruk
    @IuriFiedoruk 11 месяцев назад +65

    Demon Attack is one of the games from the 2600, I can still play today and have fun.

    • @legendsflashback
      @legendsflashback 11 месяцев назад +4

      With best cover ever

    • @PCKid32
      @PCKid32 11 месяцев назад +9

      Me too. My favourite 2600 game. Play it regularly. I was in my 30s when it came out. I finally beat it one night. Sat on the floor in my lounge, my wife went to bed and at 3 in the morning level 245 ended the game. No congrats. No game over just a blank screen. I sat there like a zombie. Due to the shocking ergonomics of the joystick I couldn’t initially get my hand off it. It was cramped shut. But it was so worth it.

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder 11 месяцев назад

      I’d never heard of it or iMAGIC. I don’t know whether they released here in the Netherlands. We weren’t a big ATARI country either more a home micro country. But I’ve played most Activision games at the toy stores and a friend. But I can’t recall any iMAGIC. And I gotta say these look nice. Laser Gates looks Nice too.

    • @Mrshoujo
      @Mrshoujo 11 месяцев назад

      @@CallousCoder Imagic is how it's typed. Capital I.

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder 11 месяцев назад

      @@Mrshoujo for some reason the dictionary kept making it a lowercase I could’ve be bothered 😉

  • @vjhernandez13
    @vjhernandez13 11 месяцев назад +24

    Of all my Atari 2600 games, Atlantis had the best sound effects. I fondly recall turning up the volume to better feel the impact of those explosions!

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 10 месяцев назад

      Back in the day, a neighbor loaned me some of his Atari cartridges. Two of them were Activision Skiing, and Atlantis by Imagic. At the time, I was impressed with the graphics of both games and especially at how challenging Atlantis was.
      I recently picked up one of the Atari Activision packs online which has 15 games, and also includes the DOS Box conversion that enables one to play these great old games. Most of the games are by Activision, but the one exception is Atlantis.

  • @danhulshult4614
    @danhulshult4614 11 месяцев назад +20

    John,
    I love your channel and you have excellent content!
    I am 70 years old and over the years have tried to complete my library of Atari games. Your ranking of IMAGIC games is spot on. I owned every one of the ranked games except Winged War.
    I say “spot on “ with one HUGE exception. To this day ( I’m 70 years young ) I still play my all time favorite IMAGIC game which is Subteranea. Your rating is correct for the first two levels , however, a few years back I continued to play beyond level 3 and , boy , was I surprised and now addicted to this game. It speeds up and gets WAY more intense. I still love this game!
    Again, love your channel and keep up the excellent content.
    SIDENOTE: Are you still officially unemployed? And putting all your effort and energy into your passion?
    It shows you love what you do.
    Thanks for being there for this “seasoned “ player!
    Dan

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +2

      Hi, Dan. Thanks for watching and for all the kind words. I'm am still "funemployed" and my daily job is GXG content. If you have an interest, I do a daily vlog (and have since the day I was laid off) over on my own channel. You may enjoy following that journey: youtube.com/@jonofgenxgrownup

    • @SongbirdPro
      @SongbirdPro 11 месяцев назад

      Have to agree. Always been a fan of Subterranea.

  • @yandman26
    @yandman26 11 месяцев назад +10

    Fathom is absolutely an S tier game. Look at the Sprite design, look at the scrolling, the volcanoe. The different things you're required to do.

    • @Mrshoujo
      @Mrshoujo 11 месяцев назад

      *Volcano
      Too Much Volcano

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I think I have it on my wish list if ever buy more 2600 games. Looks like it has enough to do to keep me interested for more than a couple minutes. I think I'd seen a print ad for _Trick Shot_ so too bad it sounds so limited.

  • @heloripascal8997
    @heloripascal8997 11 месяцев назад +8

    Picked up Demon Attack for my VCS when it came out. Admittedly it was the shiny box that got my attention but I was not disappointed. Imagic and Activision made some of the best games I ever played.

  • @JeffBreyer
    @JeffBreyer 11 месяцев назад +8

    I picked up a 2600 a few years back. I wasnt around when it was a thing, but along with the console I did get a copy of Demon Attack. I couldn't believe how fluid the graphics were. The sprites were really unique. Sounds felt right. And I thought the 2600s controller would be terrible to play with but it actually was quite good.
    Really impressive. Definitely S tier.

  • @jfunk513
    @jfunk513 11 месяцев назад +3

    Demon Attack and Cosmic Ark are games I played a lot as a child (especially Demon Attack). Rob Fulop (founded Imagic after receiving a voucher for a turkey as a bonus instead of a bonus check from Atari) is one of my all time favorite programmers

  • @Cafeman_2D
    @Cafeman_2D 11 месяцев назад +10

    I am truly enjoying the tiered lists. Several of these I never played. Demon Attack, Atlantis and most of all Dragonfire were my favorites.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback and for watching! 😀

    • @legendsflashback
      @legendsflashback 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@GenXGrownUp great video

  • @jackfrost3910
    @jackfrost3910 11 месяцев назад +2

    I literally mapped out fathom since the manual told me "Free the mermaid seven times and watch for a special surprise." I was confused back in the day when I did, nothing happened except for a bunch of random letters and numbers appeared at the bottom of the screen. Pitfall II had the character celebrate the best they could, and I was expecting something similar. I didn't know until years later it displayed an address on the final screen.

  • @R4D4_
    @R4D4_ 11 месяцев назад +9

    Love the tier videos! I preemptively vote for Parker Bros. next!

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 11 месяцев назад +14

    Moon sweeper among other games just looks mind blowing ,and since some atari 2600 games do show more then 3 spries atonce,i might wonder how this was done,it’s possible that they rendered extra sprite trough software or they used the background as an extra sprite alternative or they cycle trough each 3 sprites by by showing each of them at different positions depending per frame to make it appear as if there’re more sprites on screen.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is only sprites and background. And background is always done in software as there is no framebuffer at all. So you can say that any animation of the background is a software “sprite”
      If the sprite data of the player 1 and 2 is the same you can in hardware set to reaper it 2 or 3 times as fixed positions. So you can get 6 sprites that way and even trick it to display even more repeat if it’s static so up to 12 hires sprites in a line I think.
      Also you can use ball 1 and 2 plus missle to form gfx acting as and extra sprite. Especially since you can choose to expand those 1 px wide objects to 2x / 4x pix.
      That is pure hardware.
      Then you can either flicker every other frame to have more appearing to be on the same line. Or interlace to give another illusion of more in a row
      This is again about how much you can have on a scanline.
      If they do not overlap scanline wise you can of course multiplex and reuse each sprite as much you want. This is how lines and starfields usually are done with the missile / ball sprite

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I'd be interested to know how M-Network avoided flicker with _Dark Cavern_ since there are 5 enemies. I think _Mouse Trap_ by Coleco had only 3 to avoid it. _Wizard of Wor_ could have 5 enemies, but I don't think they even tried, or learned from _Pac-Man_

  • @deementia6796
    @deementia6796 11 месяцев назад +7

    I totally understand why the games get the rankings they get. Hell, I'm glad that he rated some of the games more fairly than other reviewers, because he actually went through the manuals to learn how to play the games .. something that many of the younger reviewers don't bother with .. "well, it's a 2600 game so it SHOULD be simple. If I can't figure it out on my own, it MUST be the designers fault that I can't just pick up the game plot!" I loved the games ranked S and A as well, but I do have a fondness for both Riddle of the Sphinx and Trick Shot. As an only child, there were SO MANY games that needed another player or the game was pointless, and most of the time I was by myself. Riddle of the Sphinx was so detailed that I could get immersed in it, and those times I could beat it were just SO Glorifying to me! And Trick Shot was one I could play with a friend, or just play as both players and play "pool" on a console that felt more like real pool. It wasn't until a year later with "Billiards" for the C64 that I was able to get a better version.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! 😀

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I remember two kids traded games (and manuals). When they wanted to trade back, one said his grandma threw away the manual because it was just paper on the floor to her. When I hear that people as kids didn't read the Atari manuals, I just think, when was "RTFM" invented?
      Also, hearing there are games that use the B&W / Color switch to do something just makes me think that's so dumb. At least people could think about switching the difficulty switches. I think the advanced throwback consoles don't even have switches for B&W TVs!

  • @lo1bo2
    @lo1bo2 11 месяцев назад +5

    Not directly related to this video, but sometimes I think about buying a wood grain six switch version of the Atari VCS. I have my childhood "Vader" 2600, but something about having all the switches on top and the classic color appeals to me.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 месяцев назад

      I have a heavy sixer of both Atari and Sears make...one is fried, though possibly fixable. The other...idk i don't really sell my stuff. Having all the switches on top was nice, made it feel like a spaceship console.

  • @RCfromtheNYC
    @RCfromtheNYC 11 месяцев назад +6

    Of the games covered in this video, I enjoyed Demon Attack, Cosmic Ark, aaaaaand...Riddle of the Sphinx. It took me about an hour to get a feel for the dual stick controls, and it is the only game that I had someone help me to finish (volun-turned a cousin to sit with me for over 3 hours).

    • @MrJacksspleen
      @MrJacksspleen 6 месяцев назад

      My cartridge would freeze up all the time as you were right in the verge of finishing the game... and broke my soul.

    • @Breakfast_of_Champions
      @Breakfast_of_Champions 4 месяца назад

      This reviewer here even gave away he didn't really solve the riddle as he claims you can't go back😉

  • @kurtmager1626
    @kurtmager1626 11 месяцев назад +3

    I had both Fathom and Wing War, but for the Colecovision. Wing War was released in the US, but only for the Colecovision. Those versions of each. They were my two favorite Colecovision games out of my small collection, but I put Wing War on a higher tier than Fathom.
    The reason is because while both were expanded upon for the better system, they are both essentially the same game, the difference being Fathom is broken up into stages, and Wing War is one HUGE world filled with more variety.

  • @TheMultiGunMan
    @TheMultiGunMan 11 месяцев назад +5

    There's quite a few great games on this list. You're making me want to go play some games on my Atari 2600.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry-not-sorry. 😜

  • @The_Badseed
    @The_Badseed 11 месяцев назад +4

    Man Imagic made some great games. Even though it was kind of a stinker, I loved riddle of the spinx. I had a thing for RPGs even back then, riddle and raiders of the Lost ark were as close as possible to a 2600 rpg. Great video

  • @curtismanley3459
    @curtismanley3459 11 месяцев назад +4

    Loved Cosmic Ark and Demon Attack as a kid playing the 2600. I always thought that Demon Attack was a follow up to Phoenix with the birds flying back and forth. I didn't care... just thought it was fun.

  • @GamingTheSystems1
    @GamingTheSystems1 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great video. I too loved the silver box design. I wish I was better at Demon Attack so I can see all the different demons.

  • @michaeljarvisakasleepyjarv1698
    @michaeljarvisakasleepyjarv1698 11 месяцев назад +2

    John I absolutely love your channel, it stirs up so many great childhood memories. I played the heck out of many of these games and wanted them all but only had Drangonfire, Atlantis , Cosmic Arc, Demon Attack, Star Voyager, I had Fathom but I never could get good at it. I liked Fire Fighter too, played it a lot. Laser Gates was one of my favorites, it was kinda like Vanguard but not as multi leveled both were in my top played carts.

  • @MannyCakes1984
    @MannyCakes1984 11 месяцев назад

    Another awesome video. I have to say, all these games that are featured are pretty solid. Great work as always.

  • @BuzzGarwood
    @BuzzGarwood 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another gem of a video! Great job!

  • @neildestefano991
    @neildestefano991 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic!! Demon and Cosmic are my favs!

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really love this series, I know you put a lot of effort into these types of videos, and that's what makes this so engaging. Thanks for all your hard work and research.

  • @johnenoch6222
    @johnenoch6222 11 месяцев назад +5

    Imagic games were great and got the most out of the 2600. Loved Demon Attack, Dragonfire, and Atlantis. Awesome stuff Jon!

  • @handyhank1967
    @handyhank1967 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for this.. I forgot about a lot of these games. I loved Demon Attack.....

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      You're quite welcome. I thank you for taking the time to watch.

  • @jeremiahthomas8140
    @jeremiahthomas8140 11 месяцев назад +2

    I cannot do a tier list of Imagic since I have never learned how to play Riddle of the Sphinx. Cosmic Ark was a favorite as a kid. As an adult, I found and enjoyed Atlantis, Star Voyager, Dragonfire, and No Escape. I had Demon Attack as a kid, but it was never a favorite.

  • @OriginalGrasshopper
    @OriginalGrasshopper 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another awesome ranking vid! Thanks Jon. Please do an M-Network one next.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I saw a TV ad again where the TV they're playing on flies across the room. Compared to Atari sports games, theirs looks cool. But they didn't have one-player options and they also competed against all those other 1982 carts, including the Realsports games that I'm told are buggy. Still, worth watching a ranking of them, if he can do that for mostly 2-player games.

  • @ButterSpider3
    @ButterSpider3 11 месяцев назад +1

    Solid ramking. I had a couple imagic games. But some of those are just unheard of to me. Another informative video. I really enjoyed this. Maybe even more than the activision ranking. I was aware of almost all of them. About half if these were news to me.

  • @JohnSTF72
    @JohnSTF72 11 месяцев назад +2

    Cosmic Arc, Demon Attack, Fathom, Laser Gates and Subterranea were a major part of my childhood playing with the 2600. Never heard of 'No Escape' before to be honest. Thanks for this cool Tier List.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      The space part of _Cosmic Ark_ was based on _Space Zap!_ a tabletop arcade game I got to play at a store in 1981, with four big buttons for shooting. After the asteroids come from each direction, you have to time your shot to shoot a tie-fighter that circles you. It's either a bonus or you must shoot it to avoid losing a life.

  • @JohnHenrySheridan
    @JohnHenrySheridan 11 месяцев назад

    Another fun video thank you Jon!

  • @neilthomas6042
    @neilthomas6042 11 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting and entertaining video. Funky boxes and box art.

  • @jayme69
    @jayme69 11 месяцев назад

    Fantastic work Jon! Really enjoyed this new tier list. Thanks and keep up the awesome work :-)

  • @jameserdmann2468
    @jameserdmann2468 11 месяцев назад +3

    I completely forgot about moonsweeper! I loved that game. I can see your point about the controls though.
    Dragonfire was the bomb also.
    These tier videos are fun!

  • @Dave-ms3ri
    @Dave-ms3ri 11 месяцев назад +2

    As you said, there is so much to Riddle of the Sphinx that you miss without the manual. Even with the manual the difficult level is very hard for two big reasons: you can’t win unless you completely counterintuitively go backwards to the oasis to get the staff, and for some of the items required you either have to hope Isis gives it to you or you have to learn how to shoot and evade while using the shovel.
    On the easy level it’s fairly boring. At its most difficult it’s an interactive puzzle that fights you while trying to solve it. When I was 9 it was a point of pride that I figured it out before the adults.
    I think I’d probably rate it a bit higher, the only downfall is replay value because once you solve the “riddle” definitively all that’s left is speedrunning it, which I became very good at. Just dig up the sceptre and it goes very quickly.
    I’m enjoying your lists, by the way. I of course disagree with some of your choices (Atlantis doesn’t deserve that high of a rating, for example, not for an awkward fixed shooter), but it’s good to see these games highlighted for the technological tour de forces that they were to the ‘80s. Thanks for the time and effort.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I was so glad a friend let me play _Riddle of the Sphinx_ at his home. I think he had the manual so that was a good thing. I picked it up at a thrift store around 1990, so had to take notes to figure it out again on my own. Now we can just download the manuals.

  • @jim1174
    @jim1174 11 месяцев назад +3

    One of my favorite imagic games was Dracula for intellivision.

  • @10yard
    @10yard 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another fantastic video that I am going to watch again. Thank you 10 year old Jonny!

  • @djgrom9542
    @djgrom9542 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this list. There are a few I have never heard of and now I have to go and find them :)

  • @tony--james
    @tony--james 11 месяцев назад +2

    if you watch the 1984 movie "Electric Dreams" when he's in the computer store, you can see a Store Display rack for these Imagic games, there's a still picture of it on IMDB , in the movie's photo gallery, interesting to see them like that back in the day,

  • @Skorpio420
    @Skorpio420 11 месяцев назад +3

    Another awesome video! Hopefully you do a Parker Brothers video.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +2

      Let me catch my breath, then I'll see what I can do! 😀

  • @JGreen-le8xx
    @JGreen-le8xx 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fathom was literally The Little Mermaid BEFORE The Little Mermaid. You have Flounder, Scuttles, and trapped Ariel.

  • @djgrom9542
    @djgrom9542 11 месяцев назад +2

    My favourite part about Cosmic Ark was the booklet. It said something like 'The game ends when you run out of energy and die' I never forgot that sentiment :)

  • @frankc4755
    @frankc4755 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Jon, Excellent job on the Activision and Imagic tier lists !!! Now that you tiered 2 of my top 3 video game publishers for Atari (Activision #1, Imagic #2, in that order for me), maybe one for my #3, M Network? Maybe honorable mention, Parker Brothers? LOL! Thanks for all your content! I never miss a post!

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      Activision had 6 games I know of that sold over 1 million, including Pitfall! which probably sold 4 million! Imagic had 3 games that sold over 1 million, including _Demon Attack_ that sold 2 million, probably just falling out of the top 10. Parker Bros. had two games that sold over 1 million, including _Frogger_ that sold 4 million! (I like _Q-Bert,_ but I don't think it made 1 million). Coleco had 1 title that sold 4 million, _Donkey Kong_ though I don't think they had "it going on." Of the 27 games that I'm told sold over 1 million, the other 15 were made by Atari.
      M-Network had none; though they advertised on TV, their 2-player ports from Intellivsion just couldn't breakthough in 1982's competitive year. Maybe if they had done it in 1981 when competition was weaker, and made 1-player game variations since that was the thing in the early 1980s, while 2-player games were so 1977-1980. Certainly the "Super Challenge" of _Super Challenge Baseball_ was to find another kid who had the game or was willing to learn the controls to get good at it. Same with _Armor Ambush_ which was leaps and bounds above the tank part of _Combat,_ a 1977 game that made the console look bad in 1981-4.
      I read Mattel couldn't even get a 1-million seller for the _Intellivision,_ though the console sold 3 million, as their best selling game, _Baseball_ sold maybe 900,000.

    • @user-ei6tt6er1p
      @user-ei6tt6er1p 3 месяца назад

      Some M-Network games were so good… Soccer, baseball, dark cavern and space attack. Kool-Aid was cool because it was different. They tried with the Tron games but nothing beats the arcade version of Tron.

  • @tarzankom
    @tarzankom 10 месяцев назад +2

    I had Demon Attack for the Vic 20. It was one of my favorite games.

  • @AllOuttaBubblegum123
    @AllOuttaBubblegum123 11 месяцев назад +2

    I loved cosmic Ark as a kid. I recall renting it for weeks at a time lol.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I think some kids "rented" games by buying a game and then returning it for an exchange. Certainly there were a lot of taped-up games in bins for Atari games at Zayre's.

  • @tchoupitoulos
    @tchoupitoulos 11 месяцев назад +1

    They made an Intellivision-only game, Safecracker!, that was also very good. Also had the two-screen gaming implementation: In the first, you're driving between locations on an isometric view plane of city blocks, trying to find the safe as well as parts of the safe combination while avoiding (or shooting down) police cars. In the second, you attempt to crack and open the safe.

  • @Shenanigans0409
    @Shenanigans0409 11 месяцев назад

    Love these.

  • @fazares
    @fazares 11 месяцев назад

    fantastic video

  • @teamoptimus7069
    @teamoptimus7069 11 месяцев назад

    Hey, first off I'd like to say I love the channel you do great work on your content. Second, there will probably be future live streams of some of these games as well as Activision titles on my twitch channel. Thank you for the inspiration and keep up the great work.

  • @WagnersTechTalk
    @WagnersTechTalk 11 месяцев назад

    Loved this look at all the Imagic games, thanks Jon! Atlantis is my favorite as a little Jon-e.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      You bet, Jon. I thank you and Little Jonny thanks you!

  • @charlesronk2989
    @charlesronk2989 11 месяцев назад +1

    Back in the probably early 80's, my brother in law who was laid off from Comcast Cablevision Wrote a preface for a comparison book. He sent it to all the game manufacturers of the time. They all but one sent him every game and every attachment along with a new system. The one company said he had to complete 2 chapters before they would send him the rest of their stuff. I remember spending the night with him and my sister trying out all of these systems and games he had. He never did write any more to the book.

  • @dublinfool25
    @dublinfool25 11 месяцев назад

    I'm subscribing because you, like me, proudly displays their 2-XL. Just awesome.

  • @larrythebatmanfan
    @larrythebatmanfan Месяц назад

    Good list and rankings!!!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for watching! 😁

  • @andyleclerc3600
    @andyleclerc3600 11 месяцев назад +1

    I only ever found 3 of the games, the good news, is they were all indeed TopTier...Atlantis, Cismic Ark and Demon Attack. And Imagic wasn't joking when their ads said "Until now, you've had it easy". These games were tough to master.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      And they knew those games were good, because they paid for TV ads!

  • @OG785
    @OG785 11 месяцев назад +1

    I didnt play many imagic games but did have Atlantis and really enjoyed it. Thanks for the memories.

  • @drno-xc1yt
    @drno-xc1yt 11 месяцев назад +2

    Imagic had so many really good VCS games - Atlantis, Cosmic Ark, Demon Attack, and of course Dragonfire.
    It always sucked when you lost that middle turret in Atlantis.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      I haven't put the time in to learn to play with just the right and left turrets, so once the middle is gone, I'm in trouble. Much as I loved playing Atari, the one-button joystick was such a limitation!

  • @sinistermoon
    @sinistermoon 11 месяцев назад +1

    I remember being so happy when I finally got all of the Imagic games for 2600! I still have them all.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      Oh, wow! Even a Wing War? The box for that one isn't actualy the chrome we know from North America, but a sort of weird orange box.

    • @sinistermoon
      @sinistermoon 11 месяцев назад

      @@GenXGrownUp I have all of the North American and European releases :)

  • @goldhawk81
    @goldhawk81 11 месяцев назад

    Great list and the way you rate games as if you were playing as a 10 year old is exceptional. I agree with you on most of the list and also think of them as if I were a child playing them. Cant wait for your next review list.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the kind words, goldhawk81. I'm very glad you're enjoying my productions! 😀

  • @shawnwade302
    @shawnwade302 11 месяцев назад

    I found at a garage sale a couple years ago a Atari 2600 console. All the switches were there but most of the major internal components we're gone. This same Atari 2600 console now houses a raspberry pi 4 and now it plays all Atari games all NES and SNES and all Sega Genesis games. My proudest achievement on this was having an HDMI port installed on the back.

  • @markstahl1464
    @markstahl1464 11 месяцев назад

    So many games I’ve never seen before! Cool!!

  • @peterperpetua2974
    @peterperpetua2974 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, I always enjoyed Imagic games. One interesting note even though released by Imagic, Laser Gates was actually programmed by Venture Vision (a sequel to Rescue Terra 1).

    • @Mrshoujo
      @Mrshoujo 11 месяцев назад

      Fun fact: The boss on 2600 Laser Gates is a 6507. For Atari 8-bits, it's a 6502.

  • @vincentferrari
    @vincentferrari 11 месяцев назад +2

    Imagic was one of those developers that just stood out to me as a kid as someone who made quality games and I agreed with this tier list in its entirety, although I'd put Subterranea a tier higher (nitpicking, I know).
    Also Carnival did, in fact, come out for the 2600. I had it, and it was made by Coleco. Another game I loved but those DAMNED DUCKS.

  • @pandeia72
    @pandeia72 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have Demon Attack. Its amazing. One variant that I played so much was that playing with two players, it is one cannon but changes the player randomly. 🔥 😊

  • @derekbuckler9888
    @derekbuckler9888 11 месяцев назад

    I was born in 74' johnny, so I grew up playing the Atari 2600. God knows I spent so much time playing Atlantis, and cosmic ark to. I didn't know the name of the company made these wonderful games, great vid!😮

  • @Alpha5119
    @Alpha5119 11 месяцев назад +1

    Im so glad you did this list. I would have rated them almost the same. Cosmic ark has always been a go to game . There are some games in there I never played and im going to check them out.

  • @Knome-Ansland
    @Knome-Ansland 11 месяцев назад +2

    I remember Demon Attack was one of my favorites ever.
    The moment I defeated the final enemy on the last board, the screen went blank.
    No evidence to show the friends! 🤨

  • @markstahl1464
    @markstahl1464 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, that picture of you as a kid is LEGIT!!! Wood paneling and all…..

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +2

      It is, isn't it? The tube TV, the toy microscope - it definitely lends to my dork cred!

  • @CrimeSchool138
    @CrimeSchool138 11 месяцев назад

    Trick shot is great Dad and I loved it!

  • @GAMECLOSET
    @GAMECLOSET 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great list. I agree with your grades for sure. Several of the Imagic games like Demon Attack, Cosmic Ark, and Atlantis, I bought (well, my parents bought for me) in 1982/83 and I always seemed to get them on sale from an old store franchise called Big Town, in Lorain, Ohio. (Oddly, all of my Imagic games were bought there and not Sears, Kmart, Gold Circle, Hill, or Zayre… yeah that’s a list alright). Some of these games in the lower end, I didn’t play back in the day, so unless it was an exceptional game like Laser Gates, I passed quickly. 😂

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад +1

      The first three you mentioned sold at least a million and maybe two for _Demon Attack,_ though I wonder, how much of their profit went to Atari in a settlement or lawsuit judgement from that game?
      But I was writing to wonder if they knew that having games with titles starting A,B,C or D would give them an advantage on shelves of first looksee?

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have students today who love the simplicity, tight controls and challenge of dragonfire.

  • @frankschuler2867
    @frankschuler2867 Месяц назад

    We didn't have a bunch of Atari games when I was a kid and we didn't have much access to discovering what else was out there. As an adult, I started looking more deeply into some hidden gems for the 2600, and I discovered Demon Attack and Atlantis sometime in my 40's. I was impressed. As a 40+ year old video gamer, I really do enjoy them. Anyone interested should check them out. One nice thing about 2600 games is that many of them can be obtained for very little money. I probably added 30 games to my 2600 collection several years ago for less than $100. Many of the games only cost me a dollar or two. Granted, they are going to leave a lot to be desired by younger gamers, but they really are a lot of fun if you give them a chance. Worth it!

  • @backinthedaygamer
    @backinthedaygamer 11 месяцев назад +2

    Demon Attack is hands down one of the best Atari games and the best Imagic title. I used to play it w my
    Gramma back in the day.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 месяцев назад

      LoL i was afraid my Mom who was super religious would think "Demons are evil" so I actually scratched out the word Demon on the cartridge label so she wouldn't throw it away.
      One of my favorite games on the Atari VCS though, right up there with Phoenix, and a few others I could play for hours, weeks, months, years...even now, especially while high.

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de 10 месяцев назад

    Wow, am I glad i just discovered this channel! It feels like home.
    Imagic was probably the most consistently excellent game maker for the 2600, and their box art and ads were like nothing else out there. I spent many, many happy hours playing Star Voyager, Cosmic Ark, and Atlantis.
    Weird anecdote: The last video game I played as a single man was Demon Attack. The morning of the wedding I was at my best man's house getting ready and had some time to kill. He had Stella on his computer, and I actually thought "what do I want my last pre-marriage game to be?" Demon Attack it was!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  10 месяцев назад

      Happy that you found me - welcome! Thatks for sharing the story - love it! 😀

  • @ShadeofJeremy
    @ShadeofJeremy 11 месяцев назад

    Okay, so I've played a lot less of these than I thought. So I cannot really comment on your rankings much. But I will say that I'm with you on Firefighter. I have played that one quite a bit. True it's not really a very good game. But so what i enjoy it. The concept of fighting fires and rescuing people rather than shooting bad guys or whatever, it appeals to me. Anyway another fun video and I'm looking forward to more as you put them out keep up the good work.

  • @techdistractions
    @techdistractions 11 месяцев назад

    Loved it - got a few to “new ones” to play on the harmony now :-)

  • @wallacelang1374
    @wallacelang1374 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have around 8 Imagic game cartridges for my Atari 2600 which I regularly play and they are all fairly good games:
    • Atlantis
    • Cosmic Ark
    • Demon Attack
    • Dragonfire
    • Fire Fighter
    • Riddle Of The Sphinx
    • Star Voyager
    • Trick Shot

  • @TitanTed
    @TitanTed 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cosmic Ark started as a clone of Midway's Space Zap, same mechanic for the asteroid portion of the game. The second part was added on to keep the game from getting too repetitive.

  • @Irish37
    @Irish37 11 месяцев назад +1

    Actually, "Riddle Of The Sphinx" was my favorite Imagic game. My brother and I used to love to play it. We'd take turns. One would read the manual out loud while the other played the game, then we'd switch. I loved the fact that it was a game you could actually win, instead of an ever-increasing difficulty rating and then you'd lose. I think it's the godfather of dense, complex, story games like Myst.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      It did have some innovative ideas, but not yet well executed. It sounds to me like you formed some pretty awesome memories with your brother over this game, so while I'm not promoting Riddle of the Sphinx, I give you and your brother's memories a solid "S" rank!

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      @@GenXGrownUp It was a better adventure game than _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ which I couldn't figure anything out on my own without the manual, or a walkthrough guide or video online.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  7 месяцев назад

      @@sandal_thong8631 No? I loved Raiders and replayed it hundreds of times as a kid!

  • @retrojoe85
    @retrojoe85 11 месяцев назад

    I am a 1985 italian guy, in the '92 I got my very first console, an Atari 2600.
    At that time, the 2600 (in Italy it was called as "Duemilaeseicento" or "Atari Duemilaesei") was the console of the poorest families but man, what a ton of fun I had with this machine.
    Still love it, and in those days it was common to get some Imagic games during schoolmates' exchanges.
    I tried them all, except Demon Attack and Wing War: so, my biggest complain about Demon Attack comes from the fact that I've tried it only a few years ago.
    Best Space Invaders-style game on the 2600. Period.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      That's a really interesting bit of history I otherwise didn't know about. Thanks for sharing with us!

  • @pugslt1
    @pugslt1 11 месяцев назад +1

    I overheated my 7800 playing Demon Attack. Greatest gaming memories from that game.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 месяцев назад

      Oof...I have a 7800, I'm mostly worried about it's wonky AC adapter plug in... it's not a usual 1/4 inch jack, but something goofy with a blue plastic end. Chuck Norris and Artillery game double ender combo is fun though...and Pole Position II is a big improvement over the original port on 2600.... it's pretty close to the arcade version.

  • @PCKid32
    @PCKid32 11 месяцев назад +1

    So relieved to see my favourite 2600 game Demon Attack got an S. If you look back you’ll see I suggested you do Imagic and you did so thanks for that.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't need to check the receipt - I got you. 😁

  • @MikesTek
    @MikesTek 11 месяцев назад +1

    My two favorite Imagic games were Cosmic Arc and Star Voyager. I know you weren't a big fan of the 2nd one, but as a kid it was great game. It had a ranking system that you went through and made the game have replay value so you could always try to get higher. I know this sounds like just a high score, but it was somehow better. I'm sure it doesn't hold up today, but I used to play that for hours.

  • @daviddavies3637
    @daviddavies3637 11 месяцев назад +1

    I sold my copy of Riddle of the Sphinx a few years back. Had never figured out how to play it properly in over 20 years. Now I learn that you needed two joysticks. It was still boxed with manual as well. Goddammit. At least I still have my Atlantis, which I did play a LOT of.

  • @skreeog
    @skreeog 11 месяцев назад +1

    I very much like your content... and i wholly approve of your message!

  • @mymomsaysimcool9650
    @mymomsaysimcool9650 9 дней назад

    That foil packaging was so 80’s. Always meant quality to me.

  • @markhickerson7431
    @markhickerson7431 9 месяцев назад

    I had Demon Attack on the Intellivision. It was one of my favorites. Imagic also released a game called Beauty and the Beast on the Intellivision. You had to use windows that opened and closed to climb up a building while the beast would throw barrels at you along with other hazards. The funny thing was you could fall off the side of the building and it showed you falling each level you had made it up. And then you would have to start your climb again.

  • @KeithPhillips
    @KeithPhillips 11 месяцев назад

    *TOTALLY CRUSHING IT AGAIN, JON!* 😋

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад

      Yes, I come up with all of my best ideas all by myself. Nobody helped. 😜

  • @RonAlbaneseEntertainment
    @RonAlbaneseEntertainment 11 месяцев назад +1

    Imagic was truly amazing, in that the entire library’s presentation was incredibly highly stylized - and there were more than a few great games … then, there are those exclusive Intellivision titles!

  • @chrispapanastasopoulos9192
    @chrispapanastasopoulos9192 6 месяцев назад

    You just jogged my memory…there was a Curtis Mathis TV store within walking distance. And they had a 2600 setup with Atlantis. They would let me and my sister play there for a while. It was so much fun to go there while on summer vacation. The other option was the Perry Drug store in the same open mall but I only had a buck or two at most to use on the coin op games there.

  • @pauleckert4321
    @pauleckert4321 11 месяцев назад +1

    So was thinking for a NEO GEO tier you can do it by type. Start with the fighting games then shooters ect. Just an idea as I would love to see youre take on them. Keep up the good work.

    • @buckeyechad1
      @buckeyechad1 11 месяцев назад

      Love your shooters idea. Fighters without KOF would be grand. KoF just overdone and too long a video. IMO no offense sir. Honestly

    • @pauleckert4321
      @pauleckert4321 11 месяцев назад

      @@buckeyechad1 True about KOF. There are good fighters that not alot of people know about that were on there such as Mark if the Wolves and Breakers. I hope he does do some NEO tiers.

  • @TCGView
    @TCGView 11 месяцев назад

    I turned away to look at something else while this video was on and then I heard the sounds. The sounds of Cosmic Ark. Those sounds alone took me way back.

  • @brayvt71
    @brayvt71 11 месяцев назад

    Jon - great video as always. Gotta disagree with the Moonsweeper ranking, though. I noticed the footage didn't include using the shield when in space or shooting at the airborne enemies when on the planet. You knew about those features, right? Both involved pulling back on the joystick when firing. I'll be the first to admit it was a bit awkward, but it made the space scene livable and shooting enemies out of the sky was so much fun. Of course, disagreeing with parts of the list is part of the fun. Keep up the great work!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      I did have some shielding in my footage, maybe I just didn't talk about the game long enough to get there. I have heard Moonsweeper is a favorite of some, just not for me. Thanks once again for watching! 😀

    • @brayvt71
      @brayvt71 11 месяцев назад

      @@GenXGrownUp Since you took the time to understand Riddle of the Sphinx I should've known you knew the ins and outs of Moonsweeper! Looking forward to seeing more on your channel - you've got great delivery and opinions.

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад

      @@brayvt71 Thank you. Please keep calling me when you see stuff like that. I'm far from infallible and always open to learning more about the stuff I'm passionate about!

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 3 месяца назад

    Oh man no wonder I could never figure out Riddle of the Sphinx! I had no idea you needed to use controller 2. Still I do remember getting pretty far just fumbling around. I remember collecting some of the treasures and dropping them off. I definitely used my imagination to fill in a lot of the gaps in that game.

  • @MrDuneedon
    @MrDuneedon 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s strange; I owned and played an Atari 2600 growing up, but never owned *anything* from Imagic. I don’t remember my friends having too many of these games, either. In any event, loved the video!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! 😀

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 7 месяцев назад

      Many programmers who left Atari said they didn't like having to program many game variations. But perhaps that's why I was leery of buying 3rd party games. Then Atari's game variations became just difficulty levels you were likely to skip. Imagine if Atari _Pac-Man_ was good and had different mazes to try out?

  • @therealfodder
    @therealfodder 11 месяцев назад +1

    While not all games landed I think Imagic had some of the most interesting game designs of the time and their technical mastery of the VCS rivalled Activision. I wonder if the devs at the time shared techniques? Anyway - great video!

  • @MrSmriley
    @MrSmriley 4 месяца назад

    For me, Riddle of the Sphynx was so completely different that I absolutely loved it.

  • @tfofgaming3413
    @tfofgaming3413 9 месяцев назад +1

    Imagic was phenomenal, and to me, gives the 2600 most of its top-tier games. Activision has a few too, and there are some games I like that don't belong to some major publisher back then, like Phoenix, that I love. Then of course are the arcade ports...the 2600 is just a classic, what more can be said? this video kinda makes me wanna make a tier list of my collection of games for it.

  • @Enriqueguiones
    @Enriqueguiones 11 месяцев назад

    Is there any news on the Atari Gamestation Plus/Pro? I thought it was gonna be released this month!!

    • @GenXGrownUp
      @GenXGrownUp  11 месяцев назад

      Nothing official yet, but I did publish a video just last week with some cool unoffical news found in wholesaler listings. ruclips.net/video/PpOZUAW5qZM/видео.html

  • @SylveonTrapito
    @SylveonTrapito 11 месяцев назад +2

    I can't believe most of my favourite games of the 2600 was almost all from Imagic. I guess even as a kid, I could tell wich games were good and wich ones not.