How to Practice SCALES
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
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Everyone knows about scales, but do you really know everything? Adam Maness and Peter Martin go through some of the secrets of practicing scales.
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“Not everything is suppose to sound great otherwise you’re not practicing. We are trying to learn the good the bad and the ugly.” Man, that is some of the best and creative advice I’ve heard in a long time. Very liberating. Thank you 🙏 I really enjoy your channel.
as a classical to self-taught jazz muscian this vid was the one i needed. im so hyped to go practice
Did I just hear an Allen Iverson quote in a jazz piano lesson? We're talking about practice man! Love it.
This topic is WAY above my understanding. I didn't realize my basic scales practice is a smidgeon of what I need to learn to accomplish what I want to master. I'm not sure where to start.
Same here, my friend, same here. "Where to start" and "where to go"' have been my main issues learning music/piano, and no one seems to provide an actual full series on the subject.
@@tarukaja8 exactly. ppl either tell u the super basics, like what key is where, OR they just go in full speed and u dont see the link.
Keep with the basic scales, they are of immense value and you will advance. I find the musicians in these videos play way too fast and it does not allow time to analyze what they are doing. I find it frustrating and I'm probably considered an intermediate player.
@@internet6695 yeah.. its like their showing off.
@@internet6695 that's a bit unfair. This particular video is clearly targeted at somebody who's good with their scale knowledge and needs something to spice it up. The point isn't to teach us a specific scale/pattern to play, but to demonstrate how to mix it up and use patterns over scales in general.
Just like this might be a waste of time to somebody who isn't at that level on this specific topic, it's a waste of a higher level players time to hear them breakdown scale building/sequences. Different videos for different purposes.
Excellent video as a guitarist I've done all of what you talked about and it helped a lot. Now as a piano noob trying to get a feel for fingerings so I can do all the broken intervals and voice leading scales and arpeggios.
My old improv teacher on guitar we'd do the voice leading scales and arp's but deciding on a range of the instrument. Then keep playing thru changes ascending thru the changes until till top of the range, then come down and back as necessary. All the time he'd make sure on the changes we'd change to the nearest chord or scale note. Changing on the nearing note would get to be tough as altered scales or altered arp's came in to the picture, but it really taught a lot doing it.
As an intermediate bass player, that was a wonderful presentation on the use and practice of scales! Fourth point is spot on!
The danger for someone who is not melodic, is, their solo sounds like exercises........the slow tip is very important....Thank You for sharing your knowledge.
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I'm a piano Nooby and 90% of what they are talking about is above my pay grade. But I've been practicing my scales like this for a while and have not become bored with scales at all. I'm still just learning the Major and minor, and have added the melodic and harmonic. I should practice the chromatic scales more, but for now I'm not yet ready for those other scales since I believe I should have better chops.
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Oh My Aching Bach.
This video is extremely insightful and helpful!! Gonna start practicing my scales this way TODAY
I am an ancient jazz reed player switching to keyboard...( My fellow frontliners are long gone).
I think it's useful to listen hard to a favorite performer of the style you like and just parrot for a while.
Videos like this help to figure out what's going on.
Late to this video buuuut I think the advice about practicing slowly is great to hammer home. We all think doing something fast is the indicator of fluency and expertise, but it's also a great way to cover up mistakes. When you slow things down there's no hiding place. Great advice for any level.
Amazing material, accessible and yet useful for advanced musicians
9:20 scale running mixing scales is a new idea for me to try thanks.
It would be very helpful if you created a pdf sheet for each lesson. With this your viewers could follow what you do more easily.
they have a circle of fifths image in their minds.. ..
my question is does Dorian start on a particular note? can you a Dorian G scale, A flat Dorian scale? Gsharp minor mixolodian? easy real world examples would really help
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex Hi Marc. This works for me.... LIMDAPL (lydian, Ionian, Mixo, Dorian, Aoelian, Phrygian, Locrian). It might take a moment to wrap your head around it but for me it works.
Start with the context of the circle of fourths clockwise. (G - C - F- Bb - Eb - Ab - Db ) .
Start on C and play the G major scale starting on C and you get C - Lydian
Start on C play the C major scale - that is C Ionian (natural major)
Start on C play F major scale (F is the fourth above C) that is C mixolydian.
Start on C play Bb major scale (Bb is the fourth above F) that is C - Dorian.
Start on C play Eb major scale - that is C Aoelian
Start on C play Ab major - that is C Phrygian
Start of C play Db major - that is C Locrian
At this point you've played every church mode for that starting note.
All you have to do is know the 12 major scales, remember "LIMDAPL" and go around circle of fourths. Start challenging yourself by asking what notes make up "Bb mixolydian scale? or the Eb Lydian until you start to see the relationships. Hope this doesn't confuse you too much. Dan.
@Bloopy Bloop nicd thank you
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Thanks! After an improv course I took I came out with a brand new focus on scales. And then I saw this. Perfect timing.
Excellent and the best on you Tube for Jazz Paino .Thank you guys.
Please make a tutorial on the different right hand patterns to use to practice scales and exercises we can learn as well.
Love how you hip cats incorporate 'modern' vernacular in your playing, phrases like "boring AF", "IRL students", "#YMMV".
Be honest: nobody but Peter knows what YMMV means until he explains it.
the whole "AF" thing is painfully corny and this dude managed to drag it out twice in about thirty seconds
Aebersold was explaining scale practicing in his book, but you managed to dive deep into the "be creative" part, super helpful
Really appreciate it when you put these on youtube! Thank you!
Damn. This video goes deep. Thank you for sharing this!
Guys, This is super helpful. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Excellent advices. I have to include these in my piano routine. Thanks for sharing!
The presenters: talking normally while playing these awesome sounds
The noob (me) who has been playing music for over 50 years and still has much to learn about independence of hands: "Don't interrupt me, I'm trying to concentrate!"
You know when you've attained not just technical proficiency but confidence in your playing by being able to play and talk without tripping over your sentences and thoughts, while still playing flawlessly. Great fun to see two great pianists who are passionate about teaching and performing share their secrets with the rest of us. Thank you for posting this.
I loved this video. Infinite shapes and variation. There's just no end to it.
Also singing the notes in thirds before you play the next not to check yourself. i do inward outward intervals upward scales as well
4:38 to get to it
Peter Martin is a beast
It's amazing how much, Terrence Fletcher, can be humble
So with practicing scales, is it beneficial to learn and get grounded in one key at a time or spread it out?
thanks for the lesson!
Can anyone help me find the software they use for the light up keyboard?
Sick vid folks I appreciate the insight that practicing isn’t necessarily about playing what sounds good
awesome video..i learnt so much
This was the post of 2020 with regards to practicing and developing from scales - beginner to advanced. ✊🏾😎
This is cool stuffs for 2 yrs practice in all scales and chords 😎🤭
Keep these episodes going...you guys are awesome!
Great Video!
Love your Podcast, they help me to Bring my Improvisation skills to the next level!
i love this channel. Always learning something. Thanks, fellas
What a great episode. So much practical advice. Love it. Thanks
Great great stuff ! Thank you !
Thank you two so much! Learning a ton from you.
Buenos días amigos de Open Studio.. por favor, podrían programar para que aparezca en español sus interesantes conversatorios?? Soy fans del trabajo que hacen, y no hablo inglés, sería genial poder entender todo lo que conversan 😁😁👍.. un abrazo desde Venezuela !!
Hay una opcion en youtube que te traduce todo automaticamente en casi todos los idiomas!
Super informative show. Subscribed! BTW, I practice polyphonic scales to further mess with my brain and form new connections. Cmajor in the left hand g minor in the right etc etc.
Awesome sauce!
Hey guys, as a new member to Open Studio, the Piano Access Pass, (love the courses), it would be great if you could include a PDF of some of the material on the podcast. Great job ...
what time stamp u want from it?
Thanks guys , waiting for this since the pentatonic lesson . love it
I totally love your channel!!! Jazz is slowly starting to make sense! I'm learning so much and I'm truly grateful for all the advice! Thank you both so so so so so much, Adam and Pete!! 🙋🙋👌👍🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶
As a jazz piano teacher with long experience, I would like to hear and see explanations regarding the playing movements on the keyboard, which has a considerable place in the classical piano. This is important for the style of sound, a sense of swing and protects against problems with hands, as was the case with Bud Powell.
You guys are awesome ♥️
Awesome video. The greatest advice? We study the good, bad and the ugly to figure it out. I am a very novice piano player. But, this video gavee me the confidence to push forward. BTW, I love the picture of T. Monk in the background!❤
What do you do with your left hand? Same thing?!
Great stuff!!
Question: If I’m still trying to get my scales up to 240bpm (2 notes per click), should I be doing the exercises that you guys show on this video even if my scales are only at 140bpm? I guess, should I focus on being creative with my scales now instead of waiting till I get up to a certain tempo with them linearly?
Be creative with what you've got. I'm moving into my 2nd year piano and I can be creative although limited. I practice for X hours and I "jam" creatively for another X hours. Good journeying. Learning itself is fun..
Also. If you play scales slowly your muscle memory absorbs better than if you take off running. Right, guys?
@@ArthurRosch I would argue not so much emphasis on slowly but being very mindful of the physical movement and what you feel in your arms/hands whilst playing, this will force you to play slower but just playing slowly isn't the aim.
You guys are amazing teachers
I just came across this. You guys are great. Thank you, and subscribed!
Thank you sirs..
lol its really weird actually seeing you guys after only listening for so long. Peter looks like that alien from American Dad and Adam looks like a honey badger
thank you for all your work. Love it
Thank you!
This was definitely one of the most impactful insights I have heard around something so basic and simple. Now if you can break down “shapes” we will be cooking with gas! Lol Great stuff!
This might be helpful. ruclips.net/video/oSQVZaAhqm4/видео.html&ab_channel=OpenStudio
Great video! Looking to implement playing scales in thirds. Does anyone have any resources for fingerings? Thanks
Hey you guys… Hey Peter it's Jeff Paris. Thanks for all your help back when you had the Peter Martin online.
Back then we corresponded about fingering for the broken thirds in both hands. I know you probably advocate that we come up with our own fingering.
However your lefthand/right hand pentatonic scale figuring sheets have really helped.
You're fingering for B minor pentatonic for instance is one that I would've never figured out for myself.
Could you guys put together some PDFs for the broken thirds both hands major and minor as well as some of the other scale variations you detailed in this video and make that available to us… for whatever you want to charge.
Peter your fingering for the Pentatonics was rock solid and I know that it'll be great to have the other scale variations written out with fingerings as well.
I LOVE, LOVE ,LOVE YOU GUYS ! SO MUCH WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE ! IT'S AN XPLOSION ! I CAN'T GET ENOUGH ! MY WEAKNESS IS THE GRUNT WORK OF GETTING THROUGH A WHOLE COMPOSITION, EVEN A WHOLE GIG. OR A WHOLE CAREER. CAN YOU OFFER ANY HELP HERE IN THIS AREA ? MANY THANKS !
Cant thank you enough, guys! This was such an eye opener!
This is fantastic! Im sick of playing scales the "normal" way. Is this type of "concept" or "method" included in one of the courses on the website? Keep it up!
You guys are going a little too fast - but I liked this a lot overall - great insight.Thanks!
1.Play scales in 8thnotes.qurater notes 16th triplets slow at 70 BPM each note is accented
Listen and feel what you play
2.Then move up scale in 3rds 4th 5th
I enjoy this, although actually for the more advanced stuff, slow presentations are useful.
Loved that one thanks
Great tips! For piano: what do you recommend for the fingers? Eg RH 1313131313 as much as possible, 132435132435, is there a recommended logic?
You guys are great..love what your doing... trying to get my scales practice right... only thing...I wish you guys could slow down a bit for us mortals...😄
You know......a PDF sheet for each lesson would be awesome for us mere mortals...👍
@@eugeneharris5820 This might be helpful. ruclips.net/video/oSQVZaAhqm4/видео.html&ab_channel=OpenStudio
Fantastic! I really like your content.
You guys have deepened my love and appreciation for scales! Implement! Implement! Implement!
Thanks for the great content!
I love you guys
I love it
Really great stuff. thanks for sharing
13:55 on the diminished scale run you take your shape through D then F minor then Ab then B minor. Why are F and B in minor? Thanks in advance for any help.
D is the relative minor of F major, Ab is the relative minor of B. Major keys share the same notes as their relative natural minors, so that's probably why they grouped them like that.
Great stuff me being a saxophonist at intermediate level I see how I can make my scales more interesting thanks and God bless
Everybody loves you guys.
Hi there, Adam and Peter! Thanks so much for these great insights (and your sessions in general). I have this question:
I'm an electric bass player (with a formal Jazz degree) and I've been playing and soloing mostly with the vocabulary that I acquired by ear, by digesting lots of Jazz music (of course some scale practice here and there). Now I want to revisit my playing by approaching scales much more methodically in order to expand my vocabulary; and I want to start literally at the basics, working my way up to more and more interesting scale/harmony combinations.
***Do you have any recommendation or resource where to start?***
Some kind of "scale bible" that orders scales by how common/basic vs. specialized/complex they are? Preferably even with some explanation or context or even recommendations of exemplary recordings? That in combination with the tips you gave in this episode will get me a long way, I'm sure.
Thank you! Greetings from Berlin/GER, Malte
@Malte Hager: Hi Malte! Searching for the same holly grail myself, and coming to yr question a year+ later, I wonder, have u found anything close to that yet? I would really appreciate some directions :)
Grüße nach Berlin und dich aus Kroatien.
@@MoVed33 hallo “Mo” : )
No, haven’t found anything yet, but honestly also haven’t been searching much. But if I find something I’ll let you know! Grüße nach beautiful Kroatien!
@@MRegah As far as the "holy grail" of jazz youtube tutorials go in my opinion this is the one: ruclips.net/video/R-d4PmAXsms/видео.html
@@tylerwaltner1823 thanks, Tyler! I‘ll have a good look at it!
Thank you! Inspiring video. Good stuff!
This was great! I will have to apply to saxophone
The Half-Whole ° scale!
I think you guys should try Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble in the 21st century!.....I think you know who is who.
Awesome video!
Is it just me, or was Adam's diatonic custom shape the most beautiful thing ever?
How long should I practice scales
Love yours vid!!
Greetings to both, speaking of metronome in this type of practice ... how to determine when to increase the tempo? and how much is it good to increase it? Thanks Adam and Peter 👍🎹
Change the tempo linearny up 10 then change the tempo slow slow slow - then siper fast
When its enough ?
Record yourself and listen if you are happy with the result
Good stuff as always!!
Is this a conversation on how fast I can do different scales, or is it instructive? I don't see anything type of instruction.....
Just y'all talking.
It is instructive, but they are not teaching you shapes for scales, but rather what it means to actually "know" those scales, and how getting to know them even more might benefit your improvs. They're also encouraging you to come up with your own shapes when practicing scales.
I think the reason why the video is structured like this is because they are not talking to an audience that already knows scales, so there's no point in making a tutorial on how to play scales in a certain way.
@@SamothIorio interesting point.
@Bloopy Bloop one thing about opinions, we all have them. My friend read the title of the video again. " HOW to......." I understand exactly what they were saying the HOW was nowhere in it.
Hey Fred, Which bit didn't you understand?
I wonder if you're familiar with Piano Pig? I think his videos could be helpful with some of the concepts here. There's definitely a whole lot of assumed knowledge with these guys! :)
@@anitaaustralia read an earlier comment
Awesome
Very interesting 🙂
Damn good video!!!!
What’s a great content! Love it!
Some of the greatest piano tips I've ever come across
This podcast sounds familiar. Did you release the audio in the past?
This is the only time I’ve seen Adam win an intro