New Malinois - Will He Protect His Owner?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- An old friend of mine imported a new Malinois from Holland. He knew that I've been teaching my son about protection dog training so he stopped by so we could have a look. I've known this fella since I was a young dog trainer so don't think any of the kidding was in any way mean spirited. We were all just hanging out and having fun.
These video clips were originally going to be a part of the Teaching My Son To Train Protection Dog series, but we had some equipment malfunctions which led to lost clips and poor audio.
Some of my instagram followers talked me into posting it here also.
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Great video Stonnie, don't pay them trolls no mind!
@@forrestmiller6161 Thanks!
I've seen lots of dogs fail without a sleeve. It's great that you brought this to people's attention. Not all will attack.
My doberman has really great protection temperament maybe too much. She is 2 yrs old is she too old to train?
I’m sorry to say this but you guys completely failed this dog because he didn’t get any commands. Here in Germany or the Netherlands we train our dogs to attack on command so it was very unfair for the dog plus you can see his owner doesn’t really have a connection with the dog and doesn’t train the dog with the right commands
Well the first reaction looked like a casual conversation in a supermarket. I wouldn’t expect the dog to do anything lol.
That's the whole point though, that's exactly how you get robbed. It almost happened to me once but there was already too much distance and dude could tell I was on his ass lol.
@@reitairue2073 Then again the big difference is how you (owner) command the dog. If to protect or to stand down, alert commands or quick reaction commands are necessary to complete the whole picture and point of protection. Gun training is another aspect, doubt the dog had counter arms defence training. Would have acted automatically otherwise. Good demonstration but a little broad. Another aspect is : pairing with a new dog, insertion of you (the owner) as their actual owner should be done in a certain way.
My 2 cents as a total dog owner amateur with a passion for this. Pls, do correct me if wrong.
Appreciated
Sorry @Reitairue wasn't intended for you but the video itself
You don’t want a protection dog, that just attacks anyone you talk to. Pointless video
@@reitairue2073 the second dog was just overly aggressive, you can't just have you dog looking to kill anyone who comes within a fucking mile of you
That first dog has incredible potential. I've seen plenty of dogs hit harder, but he's a quick as any and has an excellent bite. Also, when he understands what's expected of him, he is very alert and has great presence.
At what age does it become inappropriate to speak about a dog's potential?
@@StonnieDennis that is a wonderful point Stonnie. People think just because they got a Malinois or are working line German Shepherd that is automatically going to defend them. Even a big scary looking dog like a Corso. Kind of like how people have to work on muscle memory in a stressful situation. But they have to have good nerves to deal with it from the get-go
@@StonnieDennis At what age are they deemed to be untrainable?
My assumption is that the dog is trained to attack the bite sleeve. That is his playtime.
The dog knows what’s going on as soon as he sees the sleeve .
trueeeeeee
Shitty trained dog unfortunately
That’s not true. Dog is well trained but not practical yet. Needs transition to real life situations. Owner needs to know a bit more too. He’s a little bit behind the action.
bottom line:
bad guys with sleeves beware
Virata btw it's *truuuuue, not "trueeee"
I agree with the watch command. Dogs are dogs that are not mind readers. They need a leader to say go!
Also it's clear to any greenhorn this particular dog is not to that point in it's training yet. Equipment has to be faded. The last dog he got out was just a reactive fear biter
Doug needs a watch comand. It puts the dog in alert mode with out attacking. Also train with dummy arms in a Hoodie, hiding your arms under a protected front portion. Sew the one arm bent and the other only slightly bent. The Dog should target the arms, especially if one is holding a weapon. Dogs that go into alert mode on there own are annoying to live with.. Love your channel
Ty, Andy. I agree. I did notice that my dog has issues with some ppl vs others. She looses it if someone is high and comes over to say hi, or is just has a slimy nature. I think she has higher standards for integrity than even I do, which is helpful...but....poses issues when at least half or more ppl are the ones she doesn't like. Lol. The world is full of suspicious characters that I should keep an eye on, according to her. Idk that she is all that incorrect. Lol, but anyway, she has been trained up to this year to be good being in public but since covid restrictions, she has become more picky about who she is willing to trust. I thought it was the masks....but she was fine today with the masked lady in the drive thru. Idk...obviously she needs more time around all types in masks.
Hi Andy, you say dogs that go into alert mode on their own are annoying. But isnt that what trump is doing in this video here?
@@jackofallsales4535 I think they are great ,I don't want a dog that when is danger I have to be the one to send him off ,the dog should be able to attack without me
@@jackofallsales4535 George gives a command with stomping his feet and squaring his shoulders towards the BJJ-Cop if you look closely
Yes--that kind of IS what Trump is doing, and its a little (or a lot) worrisome. I "THINK" Stonnie's son is giving nonverbal cues to do that, I'm really not sure. With a true "Protection Dog", the owner/handler NEEDS to be the one making the decision to "Watch" (posture/bark) or attack/bite. The dog SHOULD NOT be the one making that decision.
Normally, an official KNPV trained dog has a command on which he alerts as soon as someone gets too close and another command to attack, this dog was not officially trained and will need a lot of training to become a good protector.
I really love where you went with this most important aspect in k9 security training. I worked in military working dogs as a veterinary tech and also spent time in sentry dog work. Where your headed is risky for liability that we didn't have in the military; as we all got bit multiple times and never had a law suit case Lol. I can't wait to see how you transition to getting a bite game taught dog to respond to a real threat without a bite sleeve. We used a meat cutters arm protection sleeve under heavy BDU uniforms to make that transition as low risk as we could. Good luck and God bless.
The first dog is missing experience in real life scenarios as well as the handler. Dutch dogs are not shown to deem the situation worthy of engaging with the decoy, they are shown to wait for the handler to give a command. Dutch dogs(like the first) are trained for competition, and not for Civil protection, that does not mean that he will only bite if someone is "attacking you with a stick and sleeve", but they will only learn to engage with threats after being shown that they always have to be on alert. The main factor of all this is that it is also a NEW dog for the owner so there is a severe lack of bonding, and if your dog has no attachment to you he has no reason to protect you. The second dog, aside from having a bond with the little kid. was shown to deem worthy when he can engage with a decoy. His grip was solid, but if pressure was applied to the second dog I think there you will see why he paid "the big bucks" for his euro import. Malinois and Dutch Shepherds are known for being explosive in split second situations which is why they are also often seen as "nervy dogs", in particular the working protection lines, which is why trainers are training more on the dogs composure so that he can be taken down a busy street, and the handler not worrying about the dog trying to engage with every person that walks by. It would do both dogs justice to see another video of both after both have had more work put into them, and if the scenarios were made to be closer to "the real thing", because then you add a whole other factor of a chemical and hormonal changes that happen in the Handler, Dog, and Decoy. When you make it as real as possible the dog will deliver as real results as it can.
You make some good points, but most of them are not applicable to this situation, since the Dow was sold as a personal protection dog. Also, new is a relative word, as the dog has been with the new handler for a couple of months.
The second dog is just a dog that lives with us and my son trains; he’s a teaching dog if one wants to look at it that way.
Also, the lack of bonding that you referred to should in no way affect the dogs flinching and hesitancy. If you know anything about dog training, and it sounds like you do, you know where that came from.
If I was that chap with the first dog I would ask for my money back, I've only watched this video once but it looked like the dog flinched when the cop pulled the gun and shot. The first dog should get aggressive on command.
Yeah as an owner of a Malenois, I can assure you the breed are incredible protection dogs. Once the bond is made, they are incredibly loyal and protective. A guy walked up behind my wife and our boy lunged at the poor guy.
In the video the gun mugging is very subtle, I think in real life the dog would sense your fear/apprehension and respond.
Very, VERY good demonstration of the flaw of so many "highly trained" personal protection dogs. Makes me happy to have a dog myself who will act like Trump if someone comes even close to me. A tad inconvenient sometimes, but we live very remote and I'm quite fond of that space she creates around me, because here in the woods, you just never know. Thanks for putting this out here!
Thanks for watching. Their are lots of trade offs in life, we all have to figure out which trade offs we can live with.
@@StonnieDennis Good point! - I definitely like your way of thinking. You got a new subscriber :-) Blessed new year to you!
Well said madame, in the woods you never know. I live on an island, mostly woods
My hound-pit mix Lela is that way. She has zero tolerance for people or animals approaching me, especially if they try to sneak up.
Same here
But will that Malinois bite a un-sleeved person on command? Great video none the less.
Doug’s dog? For sure, with a bit of practice.
Trump? Of course.
Wow, so insightful...trolll...
Yes that's what worries me as well.. does one have to train with a muzzle maybe??
They see the sleeve as a game??
Yes, sleeve is a game and trains dog to not fear confronting a person to their face. BUT dog has never been trained to alert or to recognize a threat vs a non threat. Potential hazard if he mistakes someones winter bubble jacket for a bite jacket. This dog has only basic training but never moved to advanced scenarios.v
@Johnny Appleseed this channel doesn't focus on protection training, and the first dog wasn't trained by this guy, so.... I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
Absolutely love you work! Thank you so much for spreading your knowledge! With humor!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely brilliant video, it should be shown to every Malinois owner that believes bite work using a sleeve is going to turn out a great protection dog. Yes bonding with your dog makes a difference and that takes time so a new dog won’t be so protective BUT sleeve work is basically a game for the dog. In real life someone trying to attack you won’t be wearing a bite sleeve. I was always taught to train my dogs to real life situations and that’s what I do. My dogs know what a bar, stick, knife, baseball bat etc looks like when someone challenges them. You have to be very careful of course when using these objects but I want my dogs to be able to detect a threat instantly. Great video that I am sure will make many k9 owners think 👍
The dog was looking at him waiting for him to tell him something.
What does that tell you?
Hes a dog that has been trained to be a civil protection dog,the other is a high risk close protection dog..........they both have there merits.........dog no 2 is much more reactive and you would need to keep your eye on in public more dog one is more controlled and better suited to a family with kids and a normal level of threat.
@@joanapaiva7554 Mines the same, she does really nice bitework but is super calm and friendly in everyday situations. However she barks instantly if I even whisper 'watch him' and if give her a slight tug on the lead at the same time she will be rearing up on the end of the lead even if its someone she knows well.
Ive trained lots of different mali and mali x and live with two in my home and hands down id take a calm dog over a prickly highly driven dog any day of the week...........will take more time and skill on my part with training but it in my opinion is better for what i and most people need........if i have to train up a sentry or high threat dog i take a prickly dog and work with them i have found knpv lines to GENERALLY be highly driven and produce some of the best dogs ive worked especially regarding prickly dogs but also the odd calm and confident family protection dog
@@joanapaiva7554 My girl Mia is first and foremost a family pet. We live in the UK and being mugged at gunpoint just doesnt happen, Knives maybe but guns extremely rarely, the only people that tend to get shot over here are gang members getting shot by other gang members so TBH I dont feel the need for a trained PP dog (presence alone counts for a lot) but shes from a line of police and prison dogs so it seems only fair to let her do what she was bred to do. Still very nice knowing that shes done all the decoy and environmental work just in case I did ever find myself in a bad situation, but day to day, having a take anywhere meet anyone kind of girl is way more important to me.
Yup, I would trust my gsd to protect me over any other dog..protection trained or not. She’s not trained in protection, but has proven that she will protect me from a threat. Great point u make here!
The expensive Dutch dog looks sleeve happy to me. Novelty dog. My free 60 pound female German shepherd mix goes ballistic if any weirdo gets near me. Trouble is, she thinks the mailman is a weirdo. Has jumped over fence and run down the street to chase his truck and try to get him. Real pleasure to see Dog expert like stony do simple clear instructional video. Maybe I should sign up for some help.
Your baby will be put down soon with no training
I'm not sure if you read these comments. But what is the training to teach a dog to bite someone without protective gear on is there a slim sleeve that can wear under a long sleeve hooded sweatshirt so the dog can actually learn to bite someone
Totally agree. And when **** happens, the dog is 'taken care of'...
Officer Doug has those MMA ears.
Love your videos. We made a walking area in our backyard with different surfaces, heights, jumps after seeing your training area. 4.5 month Mal was a little feisty on this afternoon's routine. 😄 overall good training sessions today. Thank you for your encouragement and training I am learning!
Happy New year!
I really like the Carlson Gracie hoodie Stoney... calm attentive and polite or else.
The first dog from Holland is great dog and knows what he is doing, It needs to gain more experience with new owner, it's just buying protection dog doesn't mean it automatically will protect you in any situation, you need to put some work to it, same as buying a gun, if you haven't shot before buying a gun doesn't mean you are protected, random guy on the street will stab you with knife few times and run away before you pull you gun out, you need training. Second dog is a great dog too but you can see it has more experience. So yeah great job great dogs, keep doing it. Love your videos
This video was great ! George's dog's name is great, too.
Thanks!
@@StonnieDennis Yeah I had to go back on the video just for the name 😂 Well played!
The dog flinched upon hearing the air gun noise!
That Dutch Mal is probably doing exactly as he was trained. If you trained him that anyone approaching you is a threat, he would absolutely go for them. Unless your dog has a leave it command some shepherds and others can be super reactive and imagine having that do anywhere in public. I met one last week. Poorly trained dog and handler had very little training. Love your show Stonnie. I live out here in the "Bay Area, where we make lattes for antifa". I love Noname. Lost my dog after 15 years she was a monster high drive Border collie/ lab accident. I'm thinking bout a black lab or Dutch Shep.
Your boy was sold a washout lol.
Its not the dog...its the way je was trained...poor training.... he's sleeve happy
My dogs always protected me with no attack training . German shepherds and Rottweilers ! I go to Egypt where my friend runs a training facility for police and military dogs , he works with Malinois mostly but these dogs are natural protectors . I never worry that my own dogs aren’t going to protect me . I do like that these guys do training with and without the sleeve
That was lame. The dog knows its play time when he sees the bite sleeve..
Stonnie, let the truth be told! Very well shown... Lover your work!
My super friendly 2 yr old GSD/Husky mix about lost his crap when I was stopped at a corner on the way to the dog park. I was smoking with the window down and a homeless man asked for a cig, I grabbed one and was starting to hand it to him when his hand went into the car my dog lunged from the backseat, his paws on the center console barking as I have never heard. The guy quickly moved his hand out the window I handed him the cig then as we drove away I praised my guy :)
How does a "Fancy Protection Dog From Holland" not have a "go" command? Something doesn't add up. Even a sport dog has a bark and hold command..Is Doug sure he received all of the commands and training info on the dog? What Doug does appear to tell the dog works, and works well. Granted, a well trained protection dog should have some intuition. Any chance we could see Doug handle Trump and Georgie handle Doug's dog?
People have the mistaken perception that dogs respond to words like robots. There’s a lot more to managing a dog than simply learning vocabulary words.
That’s a big problem with dog sales in general, in kennel Training ( board and train) programs, etc..
Doug and the dog just need a bit of practice in real world scenarios.
The attack command is ‘stellen’ in dutch. Dutch and german language is very useful for training dogs.
I understand that you are away from town, but can second dog be walked inside of town with that kind of alert attitude? (without muzzle)
and is there a way to "fix" first ones behavior?
Trump is a manageable dog around town, but he would not do well in urban environments with panhandlers, loud drunks, etc...
Doug’s dog is a very good dog. He just is not familiar with these particular scenarios and expectations.
Where did you get the second dog, the GSD? I like his build and short hair. Looking for a well bred GSD.
In the 70's we were starting a K-9 unit on our police dept, the handlers would ask patrol officers to help train. After some time the dogs got used to attacking the guy in a uniform, not good. They need to be trained to anticipate aggression not equipment. Good video.
I have an 8 month old female Malinois and I was very surprised how hard her bite is for a female Malinois puppy. I made a protective bite sleeve out of thick high density padding and a neoprene sleeve off of a winter coat and at first she wasn't biting that hard and when she really clamped down on it I said ouch and she immediately let go and just after a few days of me saying ouch and her releasing she started reading my facial expressions and started releasing before I could say ouch. She's highly intelligent and very fun to work with and at times it seems like she's reading my mind.
Amazing video! Love your channel! Love your home and property and the way you handle the dogs!
But... what if Trump misreads? What about when Doug just wants to say hello to George and Trump after Trump has alerted Stonnie, is Doug now forever a threat in Trumps mind? Or... did George actually send Trump a subtle alert?, Think we need a redux addressing these questions, what happens if... threat come up from behind or blind sides George??? Not dissing you just asking questions...Trump is a very impressive dog.
Trump is super well socialized so it is unlikely he will make that type of mistake. He was just playing a role, honestly.
@@StonnieDennis so did George subtly alert Trump or did Trump make the threat call?
martyisabeliever if I had to guess he made the threat call I’m training my malinois for future protection and BARK is the signal for a threat.
@@martyisabeliever No, he simply noticed the change in Sam's posture.
@@StonnieDennis redux... blind side or from behind please. No "acting"👍😎
Great video Stonnie! Very informative. Thank you for sharing.
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Thanks for watching!
@@StonnieDennis I have a 1.5 year old Giant Schnauzer, she’s not formally trained just natural guarding instincts. I just know that when anyone comes to the door we don’t know, she throws such a fit. Sure looks so aggressive, even if she doesn’t bite I’m ok because nothing gets by her, and I feel safer that she alerts us and we can take care of the rest. I remember an earlier video when u said that and it’s always stuck with me.
george is amazing, your work is great.
The cop has some trained ears.
Feel sorry for the guy that thinks he can out wrestle this cop 🤣🤣
The question is! Did he buy this dog as a finished protection dog? If so, get your money back.
There’s real personal protection dogs and then there’s sport protection dogs. This could be a finished dog if he’s only interested in sport.
@@jacobhartwell8211 two separate dogs in my opinion! There’s a protection dog or a sport dog. That’s just my opinion on that. I would still be asking the question I asked, due to the fact, it sounds like he bought the dog for the purpose of protection, not a sport dog.
@@charlesferrell387 fair enough! Just made the distinction for people who may know less than we seem to.
The dog saw Sam's ears and said NAW BRO I DONT WANT THAT SMOKE!
I'm watching this video while holding my 4 year old mal like a literal baby. I've had to work so hard to train her not to treat strangers like an object to bite. I didn't believe people when they told me that this breed was challenging and I shouldn't just have one as a companion animal. Four years and a lot of training later, she's the best damn dog I've ever owned.
“Trump”!!! 👍👍👍
Sam also looks like John Cena 😂
Great Videos. I'm gonna keep on watching and learning.
I agree- the dog associated the sleeve with defense...command would help- the breed is highly intelligent - sure to pick it up quickly
another quality vid
happy new year to you and you family all the best for 2021
Thank you! Happy New Year!!!
My dutchie attacked two illegal aliens that tried car jack me. He had very little bite work prior to the incident. He knew I was in real danger. I've actually found it harder to work him with the sleeve. He likes fresh meat instead.
Strong dog!
@wowalinbie Your dog is the exception rather than the rule.
Also, you are wrong about owner's being calm. Lots of people are super calm in stressful situations.
Don't be so quick to make blanket statements based on limited experiences.
@wowalinbie Ideally, that quality is what is known a a perception of vulnerability and intent.
My dog is a protection dog and did bite someone who had no equipment on. They barged in my house and my dog reacted immediately. I have a Belgian Malinois as well, trained in protection. I’ve actually had to stop her from alerting to people that she didn’t like the way they were acting. As soon as I tell her to bite she will bite no matter what the person is wearing. I mix it up so she knows when I command to bite, she bites.
I'm no expert, but when we got our mal we also invested in professional training by experienced mal handlers. We are by no means novice dog owners, but I was particularly apprehensive about the breed, as anyone with a brain should be. Our dog loves bite games, but has no formal bite training. He can go out with us to Home Depot or wherever and be calm, and be travels with us when we go anywhere. But he always wears a 'do not pet' vest in public....for his protection as well as other people's safety because if someone runs up on us he may react and has reacted, putting himself between us and the stranger, growling and barking. I don't mind this because he is firmly under our control and responds to an "off" command and goes back to heel or down.
We haven't trained him not to bark at home when the doorbell rings or someone is outside because that's our first alert system. I can't say how effective he would be at active protection, but like our trainer said, bad guys don't know of your dogs training level and skill.
Officer Sam's ears are freaking epic! I'm assuming his grappling is very high level.
So the dog has a nice start! He could do great in trials. He just needs tweaking for "street smarts".
Sounds like there was a miscommunication between the buyer and the seller.
There seems to be a lot of miscommunication between buyers and sellers in the dog business.
Where did you get the dog from?
Hey Stonie. With your training will the dog bark at everyone that approaches who it’s with. For example. If my wife takes my dog running with her, will the dog go after another runner?
We were just goofing off in this video, but in general I like dogs who have an innate perception of vulnerability and danger.
A natural guard dog understands what is and is not a legitimate threat, as long as they’ve had proper socialization and basic training.
@@StonnieDennis do you have any recommendations on who could provide the proper training where the dog will not only react to someone that’s wearing protective gear?
Nice video Stonnie!! I wondered this myself if the trigger for the dogs in Shutzhund training or otherwise was the bite gear.
He looks to be a insecure dog. Needs some socialisation and some confidence excercises and he'll shine. He looks to have a nice steady bite- no regripping or anything. But he was still insecure at the first, he wants to bite, there is some excited tail but it's still very low Imo. And then you can see he warms up and becomes secure. Most likely because he knows what to do and feel like he's in control and knows what he is supposed to do.
He stress yawns a bit, and tends to keep his tail low. I'd say less corrections for that dog and a lot of rewards for what is wanted of him to the point where the dog feels like he can do no wrong and is the best in the world, y'know? Because that is what I see; a dog who is afraid of corrections or afraid to act "wrong". But of course, everyone reads dog differently. I wish you luck!
I think you made some great points!
Yep, at one point his tail was even tucked between his legs. I agree he needs confidence and trust in his owner. My Rescue Dutch Shepherd is very good at reading people and threats. I think this dog has nice potential. Have fun!
What happens if dog switched from biting his arm and bite his thigh instead?
Then You just got bit......🤷🏾♂️
First timer here, thank you for showing the difference. Tons of sleeve happy jokers out there. I'd bet the malinois would chase down with some live fire. I'm also curios if he would even try to regrip without access to the sleeve. Looks like I'll have to subscribe to find out. You ever spend anytime in Paducah? Be safe and God Bless
That's exactly what I suspected would happen. Exactly WHY I haven't and would never have mine trained that way.
Malinois are naturally protective, and have pretty darn good instincts about people. The point is to train them to obey...not train it out of them, and only to training gear.
My last and current Mal instinctively watch my front and back.
Facts I agree 👍 with you 100 percent
I think my female Dutch Shepherd liked this video more than I. Such a great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The point of the video... dont wear bite sleeves around town.
😄😄😄
That dog is gun shy, of sound, and of guns.
Was stonnie’s son wearing a new england patriots beanie? Stonnie, im disappointed
LOL...I know zero about football...
Good thing he’s a mal and can easily be trained like trump. I have a mal/gsd mix and she’s the easiest dog to train I’ve ever seen.It took 1 day to potty train her and after working with her for. Few months she will bite command of course sit,stay,lay, crawl and I’ve trained her not to take food until I tell her to. I can put a piece of streak in her face and until I say (get it )she will not touch It. I’m no professional dog trainer but have learned a lot from this and other RUclips channels thanks.
He knew y'all was playing cuz he saw the toy gun and thought, "R tey playn cowboyz and robbers". But, sees man-with-stick and says all right, lunch!!@LOL
This middle aged housewife really enjoyed rooting for Trump while making dinner. Fun video, thanks Stonnie!
I’m glad you liked it!
My Malinois will not let anyone with in leash distance.Nobody can get in my space.He's got my 6 everywhere I go.What's crazy is when he's off leash he's a great scout and keeps an eye out front and then he comes back to check on my 6.It seems on leash is when he's most protective and he he establishes a safe distance for me.Some people he let's know they're a little to close.
Did you do a part 2?
I really want to see a Mal reaction in this situation that had no prior training of bite work. Never saw a sleeve nor the person before.
Good video idea!
It’s complicated. Protection (schutzhund) is a game. It’s a sport. They know the sleeve is there and that’s what they want. That’s their reward. Real life is different. I’ve had 3 trained GSD’s and they all had different personalities. Having a bond helps. My first, he and I really bonded and he was naturally tough. Very protective and mentally strong. There was 4 times things got iffy and every time this dog was ready. More than ready actually. My other two were just as trained, but way more laid back. So while all 3 were intimidating and that helps, all 3 were trained (sch 3), all three were different. Last thing. Some of it boils down to the dog knowing a real threat in real life versus working in the field. They sense it. I was walking my first in my neighborhood and a drunk homeless guy appeared out of no where and ask for directions and I lived in a nice area so that was odd. My GSD was off leash and while this guy was talking my dog walked over to a tree and pretended to pee on it. Leg was up, not a drip came out, but his eyes never left the guy and I knew from his body language if that guy moved in a wrong way, he was gonna get it. My other two wouldn’t have been like that. So you never know. Hopefully the breeder or trainer will be honest in their assessment.
So my question is, how do you get the dog to protect you and attack without people wearing the sleeve? Do you cover the sleeve with clothes and in courage the dog to bite? I have a Mali and he loves bite work. We train to a good standard but I’m always interested in other dog handlers techniques
There’s a fairly broad range of methodologies, but they pretty much all center on different types of scenario training; muzzles, hidden sleeves, fake arms, etc...
What I find interesting though is that some dogs need very little, to no, specific training. It just comes natural to them.
I’m the farthest thing from an expert on the protection/sport/police dog niches though so you should really check out some of the folks that do this type of work for a living.
OBJECTION ! Leading the witness
Officer Sam definitely fights on his days off look at those ears
I have a house full of mals and 1 cane corso. Mals are fun and trainable..but the corso will protect naturally..and they have a nice off switch
This tickled me but so true
I love this channel
Good point
Damn this man just shat on his friend's big ticket pup 😂😂😂 so mean hahaha but good stuff
the dog was trained to attack the sleeve, and not the agitator?
Obviously the hound is sleeve happy.
I have a Belgian Malinois that end up being mine after a death in the family she has been with me pretty much since a year old. Thing I can't figure out is two people that have never been with her before or over to the house. One she would like to have for supper and the other she loves all over them. Just curious if anyone has a clue on this behavior. She is going on 9yrs now and as active as ever.
BJJ with the cauliflower ears. Badass
Ya, don’t mess with a guy with ears that look like that 👍
This is great and a very important question.
I have a 2yr old Mal. I’ve trained him in general obedience and scent work. My buddy was over, had a couple beers and starts the “I love you man” and starts hugging me roughly. Red saw this, didn’t like it and started nipping at me??
Why did he do this and how do I correct this?
I'd be curious to what Stonnie says if he replies. I'm by no means a dog trainer, but for the "why" of it, I have certainly noticed my dogs do not care to hang out with drunk people - I think it has something to do with when someone is inebriated, they are essentially no longer balanced. Some people get overly affectionate, some get mean, but the "filters" come off, if you know what I mean. My aussie is particularly sensitive to peoples' moods and intentions. Mals are, at heart, herding dogs, so the nipping MAY have been your dog's attempt to move YOU from what he perceived as danger. If you have a redirection or "stand down" type of command that's what I would do, but that's just me. YMMV.
@@smileyginger1 Yes, exactly. I want to know the why. My trainer said he’s confused and politely asking me what’s going on and why is he doing that? If things got “real” the protective nature of my Mal Reddington would take over.
When the dog did bite, it last on with the full mouth not just the front half like it's been taught. Once he loves his daddy I have no doubt he'll put two and two together.
That’s why you get three sleeves put the dog in a muzzle make sure the dog runs by each sleeve without even noticing it and hits the agitated with a muzzle he’s just wearing regular clothes and then you do it with five sleeves down in the agitator hidden with a sleeve and see the dog passes all the sleeves up he should pay no attention to equipment and look just for the guy and then see if he takes a real bite little steps at a time
You need to add a watch command or something that gets him ready to go detect threat.
He looks like a level 1 protection or maybe even 2 but not threat detection learnt.
This man should take the dog to American Standard Training in Florida for a consult.
LOL…so he could walk around and zap dogs all day?
Does the handler know how to handle this dog? Does not look like it to me. Does the dog have to be turned on with a command?
My 2 will bite anybody or anything that comes even close, i live on a remote farm so that's just what i want. They alert me when a person or car enters our drive way 300 meters away or if a car stops on the main road. Great dogs! Incredible intelligent.
Get a Rottweiler. They read threatening situations extremely well, with little or no training. Great video.
I have an 8 week old Rottweiler 😊
Was the dog trained in civil protection?
Or just sport, i would say his defense drive is pretty low. I good test for the dog is the bad guy to throw the sleeve and see if the dog is interested in the person or sleeve.
When should that test take place? Before or after being sold as a personal protection dog?
@@StonnieDennis good question Stonnie. Me personally would no take the risk of buying a dog with out visiting the breeders or kennel and the people behind the training.
Extremely sturdy dogs even though they don't appear that way.
Mine protects me from Billy Blanks, when he appears on my TV
Hey Stoney, are you going to be doing more videos on how you fix this dog?
Maybe, but really, other than being under socialized a f trained a little harshly, he is a great dog.
People often think they want a man fighter, but then realize that they have opened up Pandora’s box...
I noticed that the dog flinched when Doug raised his hand to pretend to fight the assailant. The dog is just confused in the scenario and expect a correction from a handler and ready to brace for it.
The dog definitely flinches a lot...
@@StonnieDennis didn’t use the Stonnie method I guess?
It's the signal, the first one the guy should try saying guard or defend or attack in Dutch and maybe bend his knees a little and see what happens. Also if the first two are new to each other then they need to work together and learn each others language they become brothers and that's when it happens it's like a mental link.
Should that kind of stuff have been worked out before the dog was sold?
Tell me more about this mental link and brotherhood.
If one has a mental link with a dog doesn’t that mean they shouldn’t need a leash, Training collar, etc…
@@StonnieDennis This dog was sold to unknowing people!Kind of a scam really but a common one.
Great video that shows it isnt enough just to teach the dog to bite.
This is a great video. People send thousands but real life scenarios aren’t trained. The dog should know metal/aggressive objects. Knifes guns bats. Quick motion is key
If someone gets too close to us or looks at us for an uncomfortable amount of time my dog will literally go sick, im trying to correct this, i got her for security and guarding purposes, if i tell her to leave someone alone she will, if someone just so happens to come too close, she WILL let them know there too close and to back off. Saved me a few times actually, should i correct this behaviour or is that not necessary? Im not a social person anyways, billy no mates 😅 so it dont affect my life personally her doing that
For families who want a home guardian then go with a working line German shepherd that has higher defense drive and less prey. The prey driven dogs are more sports orientated.
Malls are so prey driven they want to work for themselves out of extreme drives to please their own nature. That's what makes them good for multiple handlers like the police forces because so long as the dog is getting it's rewards it's happy to bite anyone for any handler. Multiple officers can use the same dog.
German shepherds however with the higher defense drivers will bite out of real protection for their loved ones and not just for the reward of the game. This makes them less suitable for multiple handlers but more suitable for home guardians.
Malls have been known to bite their own handlers if they move too fast or in extreme cases have been told to sit by the person there meant to bite and could be turned back around on the handler as a game to them.
I've own dogs for 35 years, raised 3 and buried 3, currently on the 4th one. I would never buy a grown dog, I would raise it myself and protect it when it is a pup with my life. When my dog is grown, you would not be able to look at me sideways, all without any of the fancy training.