Small correction for anyone trying to use the Eufy lights with WLED: In LED preferences they need to be color order BRG with W and G swapped, I said W and B in the video. Full explanation of using WLED with Eufy/Govee here: ruclips.net/video/F7IhSKJ41rU/видео.htmlsi=720loC0GEXehwGlS&t=332
Thanks for the update! When you show "Home Assistant: No" for the Eufy lights, does that just mean direct integrations from HA to Eufy, or does that include the WLED integration in HA? I would assume any lights that are WLED compatible would be HA compatible, but wanted to check before purchasing the Eufy ones!
Seems like you’re going to do a video mid November… looking forward to it! (I’m hoping to find out how to extend beyond 100ft with Eufy… I’m planning on using 2 kits, just need to know how to connect them together … possibly with WLED?)
@@TheHookUp Can do a walkthrough on how you set up wled to control the Eufy lights? I’m puzzling over using the included 36v power supply where most controllers seem to have an input range of 5v-24v. How do you manage it?
Great video on permanent exterior lighting. I can't believe that you went to the trouble of buying all of the different types of lights, and actually hanging them on your own house. The side by side comparisons of all of the different lights puts your videos and your channel at the next level. Thanks again for all that you do.
I can't imagine the money and especially the time you put into these videos. Hanging and re-hanging light strips on a two-story house has to be mind-numbing work! Excellent video, I hope it pays off many times over.
thanks for another awesome video. Just cut the cables and installed my Eufy on my Dig-quad. In case anyone else is trying to use WLED with the Eufy lights, I had to swap W & G to make it work rather than W & B. It was otherwise exactly as outlined. Great tutorial!
Dude! This is an awesome tutorial. Thank you for putting the time to make it happen. I went with the Govee non-pro version, and I'm glad I did. The app is fantastic, and I love that I can run them on WLED. It would be great if you could show us how to integrate some of the most compatible light kits into an X-lights Christmas show. Thanks again, bro.
will be the way you can extend some of them beyond what the manufacture says. as its just a simply setting in the WLED software. will be interesting to see if voltage drop then plays a roll, why they likely set the limit. @@TheHookUp
What a great video. This is exactly what I needed to see. Just today, I got a quote for $10k to have lights installed! The lights looked identical to the YPS puck tracks. I think I'll be doing a DIY install and saving myself some serious $.
This could not be more timely for me. I'm just not really ready/able to spend the time doing all the wiring/dealing with the power supply & electronics stuff which comes with doing a custom setup with RGBIW strips or whatever. Have recently been close to pulling the trigger on a Govee set so this is much appreciated!
Thanks! Extremely informative. I was thinking of covering the Govee cable with wire concealer/cable hider in between each light, will that interfere with light output/scallop?
2024 - this channel rocks, not ready yet to buy, but will come back here… maybe one of the prime days I’ll make the purchase… leaning to give, but that eufy one looks interesting Thank you for the great info!
Thanks a ton for this video! I've been seeing a lot of Govee reviews lately, and I was considering them... but after your review, I'm leaning toward YPS. It just seems like a lot easier to get a "clean" install with those, and I'd really not have to climb up on a ladder in the dark to try adjusting individual bulbs. That, along with the higher density allowing for more flexibility, I'm really leaning that direction. Only downside is the Govee would be ready to go for the wife to start playing with, but YPS is gonna put a lot on my plate to get to the same place ;)
YPS is definitely better if you feel comfortable, or feel like you might want to do more hobby type stuff down the road. If you just want lights, and you don't want to expand later then Govee is the way to go. Eufy is a nice middle ground.
Perfectly timed video, I've been looking at these kits for a few days now. I just started the video but I'm confident that after this the decision will be a doddle after one of the insanely thorough comparos you do.
I just did some Ray Wu RGBW TM1814's and their aluminum track, they look awesome (similar to the YPS but way brighter) and the warm white is excellent. No bleed through from the blue like you get with some LEDs. Pricey though. 30M of track, 14 strings (280 pixels) and meanwell power supply for about $650CAD to my door.
Bro serious? Looking the Ray Wu store it looks like 30M of track is $1k plus $600 for shipping to here in the US. That's before the strings and power supply...
You are blowing my mind right now. How did you review all these in the time it took me to make one video? Aslo, I can put the Eufy in WLED!?! I had a similar track to the YPS 10 installed at my house but it has warm white. I paid a ton for the install. Amazing video!
I saw your video, the install looks great! Yeah, the eufy just takes a 5v data signal, so connect the data wire to a WLED controller, positive on the LEDs to the Eufy power supply, and negative of the Eufy power supply to both the LEDs and the WLED controller (common ground).
@@TheHookUp Eufy notes that you cannot cut to shorten, but I assume that is thrown out the window if you abandon their native controller and wire them to a WLED controller? I currently have strips similar to yours and am interested in adding the under soffit look as well, being able to add to WLED for xLights is key.
You can definitely cut and shorten them. I think the reason they say that is that the final LED in each string has a capacitor in it. I assume that makes it easier to cross gaps with the extension cables, but it could also be used for some sort of software detection of how many strands are attached.
Thanks so much. I’ve been looking up spotlights recently to add the “washed” look, and your demo of the YPS track has me sold. I’ll need to introduce 12V into my setup - it doesn’t seem like you needed power injection, which is nice.
@@TheHookUpWhat about the 5 LED/m variant? Still every 100 lights (10m) or can you get away with further? Even with the 10 LED/m variant, if you have a 20m segment, would that be a middle and end injection or just middle? If just doing 1 parallel run of ~100ft of power cable with tapping into it along the way, do you recommend 16awg or 14awg?
For the wired types like Govee, I used a 8" long 2x4 scrap to space them off the wall of the house. Made things simple, Also note that around my windows they were further recessed than the bulk of the house. So the length of the 2x4 accounted for it and I just rotated it for those situations to keep uniformity.
Excellent comparison video. I bought the GoVee permanent outdoor lights, non-pro version back in July and just got them installed over the last few weeks. I’m very happy with the way it looks. I had made a cardboard template to keep the light nodes 3 inches from the wall for installation without having to keep pulling out a tape measure or ruler. So that was a useful thing. If I were to do it again, I would probably bring the lights 4 inches out from the wall. I don’t see any advantage to the Govee pro other than the warm white lights and it’s not really something I would be using very often. Plus, I’d rather have the brightness and more lights than the Govee Pro array gives. I have thought about running a separate string, just for warm white, if such a thing exists, but I would only be using that for security, or perhaps non-holiday accent lighting, but I don’t know. It’s still not worth it to me to get the Govee pro at this time. I took my time spacing the light nodes over the center of large windows, and other features of the house, so that worked out fairly well, and I think the wired system as opposed to a track system provides more flexibility for this. The wires are not really visible at all from the front of my house unless you get right underneath the eaves. So that doesn’t concern me very much. I definitely recommend buying more clips though that’s essential I think.
The Govee PRO product page states in the fine print it supports up to 150 feet so that explains the extra power.. Also in the fine print they indicate a new driver module coming soon to go further. The Splicing parts / kit is what really has me interested in the pro.. I am really not great at soldering and past efforts even with heat shrink, hot glue and silicon have had water get in so I had given up a long time on doing year round out door LEDs again.. IT is a shame it doesn't seem to work with WLED, I hope someone figures that out and adds support as light shows is something I would love to do down the road.
It's definitely something that could be solved with software/code addition to WLED. They respond to the WS281X protocol, but the I couldn't figure out what was happening... normally it's obvious when there is an extra channel being sent, or missing a channel, but half the string was doing the right thing and the other half was doing other weird colors. I don't know why only half of a strand would be affected.
Great video as always! I totally agree with you about needing to have a warm white. It's a non-starter for me for permanent install. Would be able to use year round with warn LEDe.
Just finished installing the Govee's a few days ago, and after seeing this I feel pretty good about my choice. The price point was awesome ( they were on sale for Prime Day 2 ) so factoring that in they are great for the money. Now I kind of want to mess with WLED though...
Wow, you’ve outdone yourself here! Thanks for the honest, unsponsored review. This definitely took a lot of work. I think I’m going to go with the Eufy since I already have so many of their products, but it’s close with the regular Govee. Thanks again!
Absolutely incredible video. Mind blown on your commitment to excellence and thoroughness... as always! I'm a latecomer to this one. Darn... YPS puck track went up to $345 per 50ft it appears. On the flipside, the Govee non-pro and Eufy go on sale for < $200 for 100ft.
Is there a led strip with great diffuser making it not obvious where each light source is suitable for outdoors? Not a fan of the 'spotlight' effect on the wall next to where each light is..
The YPS track would accomplish that if you tilted it back towards the wall by 45 degrees. Some of the neon rope lights that I reviewed a while back are waterproof if you REALLY didn't want any visible dots.
@@TheHookUp Ah got it thanks... sadly due to my location it seems none of the affiliate links work.. I'll look at the neon rope lights (hopefully I can find it :D )
Greetings from Australia! Thank you so much for all the time, effort & money you put into these reviews. They are amazing. Especially renting the cherry picker lift must have been expensive & a pain but we really really appreciate it. Just don't go bankrupt with your reviewing addiction.
Great review! I think Eufy's future doesn't look very promising if they continue with their fully closed ecosystem. Personally, after 5 years, I'm getting rid of their cameras and sensors. I got tired of waiting for a good integration with smart hubs.
I think it's interesting that they have responded to all the questions about integrations with "not yet", but I don't think they have plan s on doing it.
Homebridge works pretty good with the eufy cameras and much cheaper than competitors “hubs” that can only do one thing where homebridge can do much more
Love the video, I am sorry I couldn't help but think "Make your neighbors, hate you with this one simple trick... hang 6 different LED lights up at once!"
You can make the Eufy lights warm white when making a color combination. Just click on it white (it’ll become pure white) then un click it and it becomes warm white. Worked for me.
Thanks for the video. Any chance you have a dedicated Holiday Lights update video in the works? I'm curious to see how your Holiday setup has evolved since your last video. :)
Thank you for yet another awesome video! I watched all your permanent light videos a couple years back and you inspired me. I purchased all the WS2812B 5v 30m, defusers, DigQuad but haven't had the chance to get it all setup. After seeing this, im now thinking of picking up the Eufys to use with the quad and use the strips for another cool project like the light tree you have setup. What do you think is the better option would be? Given you are running and have installed both setups pretty much identical to what i currently have, wanted to ask your opinion. The Eufi kit seems like a much easier option than all the soldering and install of the older strip video. Also, how did you handle going from the 1st to 2nd floor? Did you just make some extention wires?
Amazing tutorial. I would 100% pull the trigger on buying permanent lights. My only issue is that most likely every year they will continue to update them.
Phenomenal review. I picked up a set of the Govee Pro lights in white. The PSU on this does not say it is waterproof on the bottom or on the govee main site. I am not sure if you are US based or not. One thing I would incourage when doing reviews is to add feet/inches when mentioning sizes. Products here are always set to feet and inches, it one of the most annoying things about products coming from abroad like China/Govee. They do things in meters. But just a great and concise review. That light show rabbit hole is making me think twice about these pro govee lights. The eufy lights also had a feature which was unique. It could integrate into their camera's and security cams somehow. I know the govee pro have matter integration but that is still being hashed out to how well they play.
Great and timely video sir! For the Eufy lights, if you have and install more than 1 set, are they controlled interdependently well with the app? AND is it possible to add one segment to a set - having one set with 7 segments and the other with 5 segments? - my first floor has a bit more to cover than the 2nd floor.
As always, great analysis and comparison Rob. I'd love to go the permeant route, but with a mid-century modern roofline, I don't have continuous soffits and my trim is not white. So any of these would stand out like a sore thumb in the off season. The quest continues ...
I was going to avoid buying a style I like that only comes in black, for that reason, but then I saw online that cords can be spray painted with Rustoleum. I just wonder how long it will last in the weather.
Great review. Thanks for all the great info. On the Eufy lights, if I wanted to cut and extend them the 10' you said worked, what kind of wire do I need. 3 wire or 4 wire? Thanks!
For starters... Great video and perfect timing. That said, now im in a pickle. I saw your video from 2020 and around June of this year started working on getting 200mts of ws2812b, QinLED Uno and so on. Question: If you could do it again, would you go with the any of these or the DIY RGB strip? I like the effects you can make with the RGB, but LOVE the ease of install of these!
I like them both. The strips look much more "festive" to me, I have them pointed out towards the street so it's a very obvious effect while the wall wash pattern is a bit more subtle.
@@TheHookUp Appreciate the response. Guess you werent kidding when you said 'I respond to most of the comments'. My wife liked the strips so ease of install goes out of the door! Cheers mate!
Amazingly timely. I really want to buy a set, but I also really want to do WLED in the future. And after seeing the pictures I realize I need that separate warm white LED too. Sounds like Eufy is the way to go for me. This is amazingly helpful, thanks so much.
@@TheHookUp- for 100% WLED DIY with pucks, do you think there's a cheaper route vs. buying the Eufy and throwing away the controller? I'd love it if I could just buy the strips/pucks themselves with no power supply/connectors/controller/etc.
@@TheHookUp Are the white LEDs on the Eufy individually addressable? Using the Uefy controller I can’t seem to set just one led on warm white while all others are off. Can it be done with WLED?
My go to now is tru-tone bulbs. They use the old school c7 and c9 connections (the best of all Christianmas lights ever) and they use the warm white long LED filaments with a colored glass giving them the most authentic non-flickering incandescent look you can get!
Great review but one thing I have NOT seen on any of these permanent light reviews is maintenance and repair. LED's are notorious to stop working LONG before the manufacture claims. This is not because of LED failure, it's typically a cheap circuit failure. What is the repair/replace process of a single failed puck in the middle of a string? Do the manufacturers even make this available or possible or do they consider the string disposable if things start to fail within a string? I haven't found any information on this from any of the manufacturers yet.
It would be the same as any other LED repair, just cut out the bad LED and splice in a new one. For me, I ended up with 2 extra LEDs after my install, so I could just keep those around in case I needed to repair one. That said, the heat dissipation on these appears to be very good and they didn't get noticeably warm, even after an hour+ of runtime, so the circuits should last a long time.
@@TheHookUp Yes I get that but let's just say you use 100% of the product for install. A year goes by or longer and you have a single LED fail in the line. Can you go back to let's say Govee and they can sell you a replacement LED fixture to repair your broken one?
Hey- so one problem I have with WLED (or all individually addressable LEDs) is I can’t seem to find an animate on option. I want control over a soft on animation, or ripple to on, or fire to on, or firework to on etc… sort of like the high end light saber I have. I imagine pairing that sort of effect with home assistant. Imagine having a laser sensor at the end of your patch way that wince broken draws the path to your house and emanates up your house to reveal all, or stairwell lights sequentially powering on as you climb. I’ve searched and searched but maybe not using the correct terminology to find what I’m looking for. It doesn’t have to be WLED- but that’s all I can ever find.
@TheHookUp fantastic video! Thank you for showing the YPS 5 and 10 puck density. Which do you prefer? I am thinking of going with 10 and then I can always program it to appear like the 5 if I like that better. I also want to do an Xlights show in the future. Edit: I typed my comment before listening to the end!
I just installed the Oelo permanent lighting system a few days ago, and my neighbors thought I was crazy with the 45 foot man lift LOL. You installed 5 different systems! Your neighbors must think you’re absolutely insane. Great video. Oelo is a 36V system that comes in aluminum tracks, kind of like the YPS tracks you showed here. The Oelo is expensive, but it comes with everything you need and it’s 36V, which I really wanted because I had some extremely long runs and I didn’t want to deal with power injection. I looked at YPS, but I didn’t want to have to figure out my own power supply, controller, weatherproof box, etc. I paid about $2500 after taxes and shipping for 150 linear feet of the Oelo system in aluminum, which comes out to roughly 200 lights (I estimated a YPS system would have been in the high $1000s after I added all the other stuff I would need). And that Oelo price I paid is after a 25% discount, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have done it. Expensive, but like it said came with everything and all the components are very high quality. Except for the app - the app is pretty weak, but it does the job. Great customer service though, and I found out they’re working on a new controller/app that’s coming out in 2024.
I'd guess that the Govee lights are probably controllable in Wled as long as you do some segment funkiness. I was able to get their string lights working with my Dig Uno (WLED), by creating 2 offset segments that controlled every other LED (meaning that one segment controlled the white LEDs and the other segment controlled the RGB LEDs.
Yeah, you could probably figure something like that out for WLED animations, but unless the color order is correct in the LED preferences window everything would get all messed up when sending e131 data from XLights (which is the main reason I'd want to have WLED control over the Govee app).
News: Eufy now sells the E22 series, which adds a cool white LED to the mix! So three LED's per light instead of two (RGB/warm white/cool white)... and it is currently the SAME PRICE as the E120 model you reviewed! (Currently on sale < $200 for 100ft!) This increases the peak brightness and color range significantly. Nice upgrade... only I'm hoping somebody figures out if it can work with WLED before I buy it!! Oh, I see that Govee also now has "Govee Permanent Outdoor Lights 2" which sit somewhere between the last gen non-pro and the pro.
The Pros and Cons of the kits you list at the end of the video says that the Govee Pro LEDs are WLED compatible. Does that mean you could use their lights with a different controller to use WLED to control them? I like the installed look of the YPS kit but I'm concerned about how hard it will be to trim the tracks to the right length if they don't match the size of the house. I use WLED for other LED strip projects, so I like the option of using that to control the lights.
Govee pro is not currently WLED compatible. Govee (non-pro) is WLED compatible. I wouldn't be surprised if someone forks the WLED code to add Govee Pro compatibility, but it hasn't happened yet. As shown in the video, trimming the YPS tracks is extremely simple, a $10 pair of tin snips is all you need.
I buy all of my lighting for my larger projects in custom lengths direct from Ali Baba... I mostly use GS8208 or SK9822... I always order double what is necessary for my project if it's a long-term project, that way I have a plug and play replacement for any parts that fail. If the LED will be exposed to the elements, I always order IP68, which is not really obtainable on the market without a custom order. The sellers are often cool with a smaller order, so long as you know exactly what you want.
Hello do you have a video explaining LED light strips, controllers and power supplies for longer than 16ft runs ....I have a pergola with 2 - 56ft sections? Thanks
Have you reviewed “Ledating” outdoor lights. In case I missed it- where would you put them on your list. I like that Novostella comes in black, I wish the others did!
The DIY option is still going strong (you can see it in the flames in this video). The plastic diffusers have yellowed significantly due to UV, but colors and brightness are still good. I'm honestly amazed every time I fire them up and there are no issues after 5+ years.
@@tonverra Just a totally different look. My LED strips are pointed at the street, so you see the LEDs directly. The scalloped/lensed options are more of a wall wash, while the YPS track is a combo of wall wash and direct view.
So while I think the light show stuff is neat, i didn't see anything regarding the CRI scores. Which LED kit will do the best for every day incandescent-like warm accent lighting?
@@TheHookUpDerp! I didn't realize that the average score was the same as CRI. Thanks! I'm down to my last few incandescent outdoor accent lights and am looking into replacements for all of it at once.
Hi I’m looking into adding permanent lights on my house this year. Have you ever used or heard of enbrighten eternity lights? I’d love to see your opinion on them. There isn’t much out there about them but they seem to have a lot of really nice features and a lifetime warranty.
... Narrator: As it would turn out, TheHookUp's prior content covering safe home network architecture was a warning & not merely instructional ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @@TheHookUp
Such a great video and super impressed with all of that effort. One question; Would you ever consider running COB led lights over these? Im not a huge fan of the scalloped look and I have been searching for a COB LED that would work based on your other video with COB lights.
To do a house in COB addressable would be a much larger project, and much more expensive. Depending on the density of the COB strip, you'd quickly run into pixel limitations with many controllers, not to mention the much beefier power supplies that would be needed, and of course a ton of power injection... It's definitely doable, but it would take three times as long and cost three times as much, and be three times the hassle and expense when there's a failure. If you were looking for a similar effect, then I might suggest one of the milky silicone profiles that can be hung and can illuminate up to 360 degrees. Just my thoughts on it...
As always .. very informative video.. great effort … hats off to you… I’m planning to use yps.. can you pls advise which controller and power supply to use which is great and reliable
I just received my Govee Pro kit and it comes with a power supply that has the same model number as yours SOY-3600300US-306A, but it says "FOR INDOOR USE ONLY DRY LOCATION USE". Did they put the wrong power supply in the kit?
Nope. It looks like a completely different power supply that just happens to have the same model number. Mine says "LED Drive (Switching power supply)" at the top where yours says "CLASS 2 POWER SUPPLY", too. I see the date code on yours says 2333 and mine says 2023-09 I've submitted a support request to Govee so hopefully they'll send me a suitable one that will work for outdoors while I work on getting an outlet in my attic to plug it in inside.
Just heard back from Govee support: "The power brick can be use outdoor" Not really the answer I was expecting, but I've changed the plan up a little bit and think I have a way to have the brick and control box inside the garage, so I guess it's okay in the end. Not sure I trust that answer when the supply itself says dry locations only... 🤷♂️
Small correction for anyone trying to use the Eufy lights with WLED: In LED preferences they need to be color order BRG with W and G swapped, I said W and B in the video.
Full explanation of using WLED with Eufy/Govee here: ruclips.net/video/F7IhSKJ41rU/видео.htmlsi=720loC0GEXehwGlS&t=332
Thanks for the update!
When you show "Home Assistant: No" for the Eufy lights, does that just mean direct integrations from HA to Eufy, or does that include the WLED integration in HA? I would assume any lights that are WLED compatible would be HA compatible, but wanted to check before purchasing the Eufy ones!
@@PiercingGoblin Just the Eufy controller, WLED will always work with HA.
How do you connect the Eufy kit to WLED?
Seems like you’re going to do a video mid November… looking forward to it!
(I’m hoping to find out how to extend beyond 100ft with Eufy… I’m planning on using 2 kits, just need to know how to connect them together … possibly with WLED?)
@@TheHookUp Can do a walkthrough on how you set up wled to control the Eufy lights? I’m puzzling over using the included 36v power supply where most controllers seem to have an input range of 5v-24v. How do you manage it?
Great video on permanent exterior lighting. I can't believe that you went to the trouble of buying all of the different types of lights, and actually hanging them on your own house. The side by side comparisons of all of the different lights puts your videos and your channel at the next level. Thanks again for all that you do.
Well 148 links and no reply’s lemme change that
You are a WILD MAN!!! Installing all those lights at the same time?!?!??? Wow. I'm super impressed. Super great review! A++++
There's the guy! Funny story, when I was adding tags to this video it suggested I add the "HandyDadTV" tag.
I can't imagine the money and especially the time you put into these videos. Hanging and re-hanging light strips on a two-story house has to be mind-numbing work! Excellent video, I hope it pays off many times over.
thanks for another awesome video. Just cut the cables and installed my Eufy on my Dig-quad. In case anyone else is trying to use WLED with the Eufy lights, I had to swap W & G to make it work rather than W & B. It was otherwise exactly as outlined. Great tutorial!
Your review blows out of the water every single other review about permanent LED lights I have seen and | have watched a lot. A thousand thanks!
Dude! This is an awesome tutorial. Thank you for putting the time to make it happen. I went with the Govee non-pro version, and I'm glad I did. The app is fantastic, and I love that I can run them on WLED. It would be great if you could show us how to integrate some of the most compatible light kits into an X-lights Christmas show. Thanks again, bro.
I'll be making that video (xlights with off the shelf kits) in mid/late November.
will be the way you can extend some of them beyond what the manufacture says. as its just a simply setting in the WLED software. will be interesting to see if voltage drop then plays a roll, why they likely set the limit.
@@TheHookUp
Anyone know if it would be possible to sync multiple separate buildings like home and garage?
Specifically with Govee and a Weld controller
@@erichubbard7754wled yes
Wow! You really went above and beyond to make this video! Great job man!
I hope that is a play on words for me renting a lift.
What a great video. This is exactly what I needed to see. Just today, I got a quote for $10k to have lights installed! The lights looked identical to the YPS puck tracks. I think I'll be doing a DIY install and saving myself some serious $.
😮😮 that's a lot! Didn't realize it can run that high for professional installations.
Jellyfish? Lol
This could not be more timely for me. I'm just not really ready/able to spend the time doing all the wiring/dealing with the power supply & electronics stuff which comes with doing a custom setup with RGBIW strips or whatever. Have recently been close to pulling the trigger on a Govee set so this is much appreciated!
Yeah he talked me out of it as well 😂
Your work is impeccable man. Youve one of the best review channels. Your patience and indepth analysis is insane!
Thanks!!
Went with the Govee Pros and have zero regrets. They're beautiful!
are you still loving the lights ?
@@gallardo360 They've been working great so far! I hope they can last a few years before requiring a change.
I did want to see every light kit lit up. Great vid and thanks for the hard work you did installing each kit, but mostly filming, and editing.
This video is pure gold
Thanks! Extremely informative.
I was thinking of covering the Govee cable with wire concealer/cable hider in between each light, will that interfere with light output/scallop?
Nope, that should work fine. I've seen people using vinyl J-channel from home depot to do that.
Man, this video does not have the views it deserves!!!! Well done!!!
On behalf of Govee, thanks so much for the reviews and roundup. Was super interesting, and glad you liked the lights. Cheers!
2024 - this channel rocks, not ready yet to buy, but will come back here… maybe one of the prime days I’ll make the purchase… leaning to give, but that eufy one looks interesting
Thank you for the great info!
Thanks a ton for this video! I've been seeing a lot of Govee reviews lately, and I was considering them... but after your review, I'm leaning toward YPS. It just seems like a lot easier to get a "clean" install with those, and I'd really not have to climb up on a ladder in the dark to try adjusting individual bulbs. That, along with the higher density allowing for more flexibility, I'm really leaning that direction. Only downside is the Govee would be ready to go for the wife to start playing with, but YPS is gonna put a lot on my plate to get to the same place ;)
YPS is definitely better if you feel comfortable, or feel like you might want to do more hobby type stuff down the road. If you just want lights, and you don't want to expand later then Govee is the way to go. Eufy is a nice middle ground.
Project Farm vibes are strong with this video. Great job 👍
Love me some Project Farm
Perfectly timed video, I've been looking at these kits for a few days now. I just started the video but I'm confident that after this the decision will be a doddle after one of the insanely thorough comparos you do.
I just did some Ray Wu RGBW TM1814's and their aluminum track, they look awesome (similar to the YPS but way brighter) and the warm white is excellent. No bleed through from the blue like you get with some LEDs. Pricey though. 30M of track, 14 strings (280 pixels) and meanwell power supply for about $650CAD to my door.
Don't suppose you have a link to what you got..as well as the channels? This is the route I'd like to go. Nice warm white is key. Thank you
Yes, would love the link for all that's required for this -- YPS is sold out of their puck tracks.
Bro serious? Looking the Ray Wu store it looks like 30M of track is $1k plus $600 for shipping to here in the US. That's before the strings and power supply...
@tburch12785 each "order" of track is 10 1 meter sections. For some reason it only shows you that on the desktop site, not the mobile app.
@@xnizonyt ohhh yeah that makes a difference lol. Thanks man.
You are blowing my mind right now. How did you review all these in the time it took me to make one video? Aslo, I can put the Eufy in WLED!?! I had a similar track to the YPS 10 installed at my house but it has warm white. I paid a ton for the install. Amazing video!
I saw your video, the install looks great! Yeah, the eufy just takes a 5v data signal, so connect the data wire to a WLED controller, positive on the LEDs to the Eufy power supply, and negative of the Eufy power supply to both the LEDs and the WLED controller (common ground).
@@TheHookUp Thanks for the info. I might have to try that out. I'm still have a ton to learn about what my WLED system can do.
@TechWithBrett xlights!
@@TheHookUp Eufy notes that you cannot cut to shorten, but I assume that is thrown out the window if you abandon their native controller and wire them to a WLED controller? I currently have strips similar to yours and am interested in adding the under soffit look as well, being able to add to WLED for xLights is key.
You can definitely cut and shorten them. I think the reason they say that is that the final LED in each string has a capacitor in it. I assume that makes it easier to cross gaps with the extension cables, but it could also be used for some sort of software detection of how many strands are attached.
Thanks so much. I’ve been looking up spotlights recently to add the “washed” look, and your demo of the YPS track has me sold. I’ll need to introduce 12V into my setup - it doesn’t seem like you needed power injection, which is nice.
Power injection is needed roughly every 10m.
@@TheHookUpWhat about the 5 LED/m variant? Still every 100 lights (10m) or can you get away with further?
Even with the 10 LED/m variant, if you have a 20m segment, would that be a middle and end injection or just middle?
If just doing 1 parallel run of ~100ft of power cable with tapping into it along the way, do you recommend 16awg or 14awg?
For the wired types like Govee, I used a 8" long 2x4 scrap to space them off the wall of the house. Made things simple, Also note that around my windows they were further recessed than the bulk of the house. So the length of the 2x4 accounted for it and I just rotated it for those situations to keep uniformity.
Awesome work! You never let us down with the in depth reviews. Keep it up!
Excellent comparison video. I bought the GoVee permanent outdoor lights, non-pro version back in July and just got them installed over the last few weeks. I’m very happy with the way it looks. I had made a cardboard template to keep the light nodes 3 inches from the wall for installation without having to keep pulling out a tape measure or ruler. So that was a useful thing. If I were to do it again, I would probably bring the lights 4 inches out from the wall. I don’t see any advantage to the Govee pro other than the warm white lights and it’s not really something I would be using very often. Plus, I’d rather have the brightness and more lights than the Govee Pro array gives. I have thought about running a separate string, just for warm white, if such a thing exists, but I would only be using that for security, or perhaps non-holiday accent lighting, but I don’t know. It’s still not worth it to me to get the Govee pro at this time.
I took my time spacing the light nodes over the center of large windows, and other features of the house, so that worked out fairly well, and I think the wired system as opposed to a track system provides more flexibility for this. The wires are not really visible at all from the front of my house unless you get right underneath the eaves. So that doesn’t concern me very much. I definitely recommend buying more clips though that’s essential I think.
Nice, the template is good idea.
Great idea using the template, as popular as Govee is perhaps someone has made a 3d printable mounting bracket
Do you soffits? If so, what type and length of screw did you use?
What clips did you go with the ones that come with or did you find other clips that worked?
Yeah I’m kicking over the idea of running a warm white strip next to the Govee pixels as well just for later.
The Govee PRO product page states in the fine print it supports up to 150 feet so that explains the extra power.. Also in the fine print they indicate a new driver module coming soon to go further.
The Splicing parts / kit is what really has me interested in the pro.. I am really not great at soldering and past efforts even with heat shrink, hot glue and silicon have had water get in so I had given up a long time on doing year round out door LEDs again.. IT is a shame it doesn't seem to work with WLED, I hope someone figures that out and adds support as light shows is something I would love to do down the road.
It's definitely something that could be solved with software/code addition to WLED. They respond to the WS281X protocol, but the I couldn't figure out what was happening... normally it's obvious when there is an extra channel being sent, or missing a channel, but half the string was doing the right thing and the other half was doing other weird colors. I don't know why only half of a strand would be affected.
The Pro works with 200ft. I've got it installed
Impressive review!
Great video as always! I totally agree with you about needing to have a warm white. It's a non-starter for me for permanent install. Would be able to use year round with warn LEDe.
Very professional review ...
Loved the use of the man lift ...
Just ordered 3 Govee standard kits...(1 for Moms home)
Just finished installing the Govee's a few days ago, and after seeing this I feel pretty good about my choice. The price point was awesome ( they were on sale for Prime Day 2 ) so factoring that in they are great for the money. Now I kind of want to mess with WLED though...
did you do the pro or standard? How do you like the white? I want to do whites most of the year and use the colors for special occaions
I've just watched a video showing how to use them with wled
Wow, you’ve outdone yourself here! Thanks for the honest, unsponsored review. This definitely took a lot of work. I think I’m going to go with the Eufy since I already have so many of their products, but it’s close with the regular Govee. Thanks again!
Absolutely incredible video. Mind blown on your commitment to excellence and thoroughness... as always! I'm a latecomer to this one. Darn... YPS puck track went up to $345 per 50ft it appears. On the flipside, the Govee non-pro and Eufy go on sale for < $200 for 100ft.
Is there a led strip with great diffuser making it not obvious where each light source is suitable for outdoors? Not a fan of the 'spotlight' effect on the wall next to where each light is..
The YPS track would accomplish that if you tilted it back towards the wall by 45 degrees. Some of the neon rope lights that I reviewed a while back are waterproof if you REALLY didn't want any visible dots.
@@TheHookUp Ah got it thanks... sadly due to my location it seems none of the affiliate links work.. I'll look at the neon rope lights (hopefully I can find it :D )
Greetings from Australia!
Thank you so much for all the time, effort & money you put into these reviews. They are amazing.
Especially renting the cherry picker lift must have been expensive & a pain but we really really appreciate it.
Just don't go bankrupt with your reviewing addiction.
These are awesome. Can you show us how you use them with the WLED controller. I think that would be the best way to go.
Yeah, I think I'm going to take a "week off" video mid November and show how I have all my light show stuff installed and setup.
As always that would be greatly appreciated.
@@TheHookUp
Great review! I think Eufy's future doesn't look very promising if they continue with their fully closed ecosystem. Personally, after 5 years, I'm getting rid of their cameras and sensors. I got tired of waiting for a good integration with smart hubs.
I think it's interesting that they have responded to all the questions about integrations with "not yet", but I don't think they have plan s on doing it.
Homebridge works pretty good with the eufy cameras and much cheaper than competitors “hubs” that can only do one thing where homebridge can do much more
Love the video, I am sorry I couldn't help but think "Make your neighbors, hate you with this one simple trick... hang 6 different LED lights up at once!"
Not gonna lie, the JLG manlift makes a LOT of loud beeping noises when you move it. Pretty sure my neighbor who works at home does hate me now.
I work with these lights a lot. Thanks for doing a side-by-side video! It was fun to see and your hard day's work and editing is appreciated!
Which do you like working with the most?
Thank you TONS for putting so much effort in these. You have no idea
You can make the Eufy lights warm white when making a color combination. Just click on it white (it’ll become pure white) then un click it and it becomes warm white. Worked for me.
Amazing review! Thanks for doing all that installing so we don't have to!
To make things easier, you can always use a woodworking clamp to hold up the lights while you work on a section. Good video!
There’s Project Farm for tools and then there’s The Hook Up for tech. Great work, keep it up!
Thanks for the video. Any chance you have a dedicated Holiday Lights update video in the works? I'm curious to see how your Holiday setup has evolved since your last video. :)
Yep, November.
What about some wiremold plastic channels between each pucks to have nice straight hidden cables?
Would love to see an updated video with all the nights lights getting released and which ones are WLED compatible.
Thank you for yet another awesome video! I watched all your permanent light videos a couple years back and you inspired me. I purchased all the WS2812B 5v 30m, defusers, DigQuad but haven't had the chance to get it all setup.
After seeing this, im now thinking of picking up the Eufys to use with the quad and use the strips for another cool project like the light tree you have setup.
What do you think is the better option would be? Given you are running and have installed both setups pretty much identical to what i currently have, wanted to ask your opinion. The Eufi kit seems like a much easier option than all the soldering and install of the older strip video. Also, how did you handle going from the 1st to 2nd floor? Did you just make some extention wires?
Awesome comparison! Never seen a review with them all installed and side by side!
I want to use the Govee but have stucco soffits. The 3D printed mounts are a great idea. Now I think I can go ahead with my lights.
Amazing tutorial. I would 100% pull the trigger on buying permanent lights. My only issue is that most likely every year they will continue to update them.
“You taught me everything I know about exterior illumination”
Wow! Detailed, but to the point review! Loved it and you helped tremendously in making my decision.
good timing for this video and very in depth as usual :)
Phenomenal review. I picked up a set of the Govee Pro lights in white. The PSU on this does not say it is waterproof on the bottom or on the govee main site. I am not sure if you are US based or not. One thing I would incourage when doing reviews is to add feet/inches when mentioning sizes. Products here are always set to feet and inches, it one of the most annoying things about products coming from abroad like China/Govee. They do things in meters. But just a great and concise review. That light show rabbit hole is making me think twice about these pro govee lights. The eufy lights also had a feature which was unique. It could integrate into their camera's and security cams somehow. I know the govee pro have matter integration but that is still being hashed out to how well they play.
Great and timely video sir! For the Eufy lights, if you have and install more than 1 set, are they controlled interdependently well with the app? AND is it possible to add one segment to a set - having one set with 7 segments and the other with 5 segments? - my first floor has a bit more to cover than the 2nd floor.
Really excellent job. Man you did a lot of work. Covered all aspects of outdoor lights. Thank you
Thank you! The detail of this review, as always, is amazing.
I prefer the scalloped designs for festive lights, but prefer the YPS for a more year round usable light.
I agree, it's hard to choose, that's why I went with both... lol.
@@TheHookUp Haha, I was thinking about doing the scalloped lights and doing a neon style LED strip similar to what you had in an old video
As always, great analysis and comparison Rob. I'd love to go the permeant route, but with a mid-century modern roofline, I don't have continuous soffits and my trim is not white. So any of these would stand out like a sore thumb in the off season. The quest continues ...
The aluminum tracks come in a bunch of different colors, you could probably color match your soffit.
I was going to avoid buying a style I like that only comes in black, for that reason, but then I saw online that cords can be spray painted with Rustoleum. I just wonder how long it will last in the weather.
@@natashafarrell4526I've had my 🟣 cat6 cables for my cameras painted white for 3+ years now. In the shade, but Vegas heat
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This video helped me tremendously. Your hard work and head ache of work is greatly appreciated. 👏👏
Was very helpful think imngoing with the govee lights after your video. Thanks for taking the time to do the video
Great review, as always! You have a great engineering mind and never leave a stone unturned, GOLD STAR 😀
Very nice Job Sr.!
Congrats and thank you so much for your hard work!!!
Wow! Thank you so much for doing this video! Happy new year!!! Will save this for the upcoming holidays.
Which ones would be better for weather with lots of snow? I would be concern with snow hanging from the soffit and getting into the lights.
Great review. Thanks for all the great info. On the Eufy lights, if I wanted to cut and extend them the 10' you said worked, what kind of wire do I need. 3 wire or 4 wire? Thanks!
For starters... Great video and perfect timing. That said, now im in a pickle. I saw your video from 2020 and around June of this year started working on getting 200mts of ws2812b, QinLED Uno and so on. Question: If you could do it again, would you go with the any of these or the DIY RGB strip? I like the effects you can make with the RGB, but LOVE the ease of install of these!
I like them both. The strips look much more "festive" to me, I have them pointed out towards the street so it's a very obvious effect while the wall wash pattern is a bit more subtle.
@@TheHookUp Appreciate the response. Guess you werent kidding when you said 'I respond to most of the comments'. My wife liked the strips so ease of install goes out of the door! Cheers mate!
I've just started looking into these style lights and thought "I'll wait for The Hook Up to set me on the right path" - perfect timing, thanks!
Haha, happy to help!
Amazingly timely. I really want to buy a set, but I also really want to do WLED in the future. And after seeing the pictures I realize I need that separate warm white LED too. Sounds like Eufy is the way to go for me. This is amazingly helpful, thanks so much.
Yep, seems like Eufy is your best bet.
@@TheHookUp- for 100% WLED DIY with pucks, do you think there's a cheaper route vs. buying the Eufy and throwing away the controller? I'd love it if I could just buy the strips/pucks themselves with no power supply/connectors/controller/etc.
The pucks don't have the same "scalloped" look as the lensed nodes from Eufy/Appeck/Govee.
@@TheHookUp Are the white LEDs on the Eufy individually addressable?
Using the Uefy controller I can’t seem to set just one led on warm white while all others are off. Can it be done with WLED?
@@FreQi Yes, it can easily be done in WLED. According to Eufy that functionality will also be added to their app after the next update.
My go to now is tru-tone bulbs. They use the old school c7 and c9 connections (the best of all Christianmas lights ever) and they use the warm white long LED filaments with a colored glass giving them the most authentic non-flickering incandescent look you can get!
I wish they'd open up their website for orders already 😍
Technology Connections here on RUclips has done some excellent videos about those bulbs.
You're an animal! Thank you so much for taking the time to do the video. Informative and very helpful. Appreciate all your hard work
Thanks Rob. Great comparison as usual! Appreciate the effort! 😊
Great review but one thing I have NOT seen on any of these permanent light reviews is maintenance and repair. LED's are notorious to stop working LONG before the manufacture claims. This is not because of LED failure, it's typically a cheap circuit failure. What is the repair/replace process of a single failed puck in the middle of a string? Do the manufacturers even make this available or possible or do they consider the string disposable if things start to fail within a string? I haven't found any information on this from any of the manufacturers yet.
It would be the same as any other LED repair, just cut out the bad LED and splice in a new one. For me, I ended up with 2 extra LEDs after my install, so I could just keep those around in case I needed to repair one. That said, the heat dissipation on these appears to be very good and they didn't get noticeably warm, even after an hour+ of runtime, so the circuits should last a long time.
@@TheHookUp Yes I get that but let's just say you use 100% of the product for install. A year goes by or longer and you have a single LED fail in the line. Can you go back to let's say Govee and they can sell you a replacement LED fixture to repair your broken one?
Govee sells single extension strands, so 12 LEDs on Amazon. You can also buy single strands on eBay.
Hey- so one problem I have with WLED (or all individually addressable LEDs) is I can’t seem to find an animate on option. I want control over a soft on animation, or ripple to on, or fire to on, or firework to on etc… sort of like the high end light saber I have. I imagine pairing that sort of effect with home assistant. Imagine having a laser sensor at the end of your patch way that wince broken draws the path to your house and emanates up your house to reveal all, or stairwell lights sequentially powering on as you climb. I’ve searched and searched but maybe not using the correct terminology to find what I’m looking for. It doesn’t have to be WLED- but that’s all I can ever find.
That's definitely possible in WLED. WLED not only supports macros but you could send that as data through Node-RED.
I've done this in weld using the presets then put them in a sequence. Or call as needed from home assistant
@@TheHookUp any chance you have a video or short covering how?
@@firefon326 excellent. Do you happen to know any good resources to learn how?
@TheHookUp fantastic video! Thank you for showing the YPS 5 and 10 puck density. Which do you prefer? I am thinking of going with 10 and then I can always program it to appear like the 5 if I like that better. I also want to do an Xlights show in the future. Edit: I typed my comment before listening to the end!
I'd definitely go with 10 puck. For stationary patterns I prefer 5 puck, but for animations 10 puck is much better.
@@TheHookUp that was my conclusion after watching your video 5 times over. Best of both worlds!
Incredible job - nobody else would go to all that trouble to review LED's - you are a MONSTER! 🙂
I just installed the Oelo permanent lighting system a few days ago, and my neighbors thought I was crazy with the 45 foot man lift LOL. You installed 5 different systems! Your neighbors must think you’re absolutely insane. Great video.
Oelo is a 36V system that comes in aluminum tracks, kind of like the YPS tracks you showed here. The Oelo is expensive, but it comes with everything you need and it’s 36V, which I really wanted because I had some extremely long runs and I didn’t want to deal with power injection. I looked at YPS, but I didn’t want to have to figure out my own power supply, controller, weatherproof box, etc. I paid about $2500 after taxes and shipping for 150 linear feet of the Oelo system in aluminum, which comes out to roughly 200 lights (I estimated a YPS system would have been in the high $1000s after I added all the other stuff I would need). And that Oelo price I paid is after a 25% discount, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have done it. Expensive, but like it said came with everything and all the components are very high quality. Except for the app - the app is pretty weak, but it does the job. Great customer service though, and I found out they’re working on a new controller/app that’s coming out in 2024.
I like how Chris Maher was able to wire the Govee to WLED controller
Yep, I tested all the LEDs in this video for WLED compatibility.
I'd guess that the Govee lights are probably controllable in Wled as long as you do some segment funkiness. I was able to get their string lights working with my Dig Uno (WLED), by creating 2 offset segments that controlled every other LED (meaning that one segment controlled the white LEDs and the other segment controlled the RGB LEDs.
Yeah, you could probably figure something like that out for WLED animations, but unless the color order is correct in the LED preferences window everything would get all messed up when sending e131 data from XLights (which is the main reason I'd want to have WLED control over the Govee app).
Damn nice testing. Answered all of my questions.
News: Eufy now sells the E22 series, which adds a cool white LED to the mix! So three LED's per light instead of two (RGB/warm white/cool white)... and it is currently the SAME PRICE as the E120 model you reviewed! (Currently on sale < $200 for 100ft!)
This increases the peak brightness and color range significantly.
Nice upgrade... only I'm hoping somebody figures out if it can work with WLED before I buy it!!
Oh, I see that Govee also now has "Govee Permanent Outdoor Lights 2" which sit somewhere between the last gen non-pro and the pro.
The Pros and Cons of the kits you list at the end of the video says that the Govee Pro LEDs are WLED compatible. Does that mean you could use their lights with a different controller to use WLED to control them?
I like the installed look of the YPS kit but I'm concerned about how hard it will be to trim the tracks to the right length if they don't match the size of the house. I use WLED for other LED strip projects, so I like the option of using that to control the lights.
Govee pro is not currently WLED compatible. Govee (non-pro) is WLED compatible. I wouldn't be surprised if someone forks the WLED code to add Govee Pro compatibility, but it hasn't happened yet.
As shown in the video, trimming the YPS tracks is extremely simple, a $10 pair of tin snips is all you need.
I buy all of my lighting for my larger projects in custom lengths direct from Ali Baba... I mostly use GS8208 or SK9822... I always order double what is necessary for my project if it's a long-term project, that way I have a plug and play replacement for any parts that fail. If the LED will be exposed to the elements, I always order IP68, which is not really obtainable on the market without a custom order. The sellers are often cool with a smaller order, so long as you know exactly what you want.
This was so in-depth and helpful. Very much appreciated!
Great video! Thanks for all the info. Have you ever looked into the Twinkly lights? I’ve been wanting to splice and extend those.
Hello do you have a video explaining LED light strips, controllers and power supplies for longer than 16ft runs ....I have a pergola with 2 - 56ft sections? Thanks
Have you reviewed “Ledating” outdoor lights. In case I missed it- where would you put them on your list. I like that Novostella comes in black, I wish the others did!
I would be interested to see how these hold up to your DIY version from some years back
The DIY option is still going strong (you can see it in the flames in this video). The plastic diffusers have yellowed significantly due to UV, but colors and brightness are still good. I'm honestly amazed every time I fire them up and there are no issues after 5+ years.
@@TheHookUp thanks! do you think these options outperform your DIY option tho?
@@tonverra Just a totally different look. My LED strips are pointed at the street, so you see the LEDs directly. The scalloped/lensed options are more of a wall wash, while the YPS track is a combo of wall wash and direct view.
@@TheHookUp thank you! Appreciate the info!
So while I think the light show stuff is neat, i didn't see anything regarding the CRI scores. Which LED kit will do the best for every day incandescent-like warm accent lighting?
All the screenshots from the Hopoocolor have CRI listed (Ra). I think the Eufy warm white was like 81 and the Govee was 84.
@@TheHookUpDerp! I didn't realize that the average score was the same as CRI. Thanks! I'm down to my last few incandescent outdoor accent lights and am looking into replacements for all of it at once.
Hi I’m looking into adding permanent lights on my house this year. Have you ever used or heard of enbrighten eternity lights? I’d love to see your opinion on them. There isn’t much out there about them but they seem to have a lot of really nice features and a lifetime warranty.
Do you have a link for extra clips for the Govee
How do you feel the pucks compare to pixel lights?
Definitely much brighter than individual pixels. They are also much lower profile, so the tracks can sit behind the drip edge of the soffit.
So much works for that video maannnnn😂🎉nice work
Somehow you are always reviewing interesting things that I want!
All part of my master plan.
... Narrator: As it would turn out, TheHookUp's prior content covering safe home network architecture was a warning & not merely instructional ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @@TheHookUp
What would be the better choice as far as non holiday season security lighting and farthest distance output for when set you white lighting?
Such a great video and super impressed with all of that effort. One question; Would you ever consider running COB led lights over these? Im not a huge fan of the scalloped look and I have been searching for a COB LED that would work based on your other video with COB lights.
To do a house in COB addressable would be a much larger project, and much more expensive. Depending on the density of the COB strip, you'd quickly run into pixel limitations with many controllers, not to mention the much beefier power supplies that would be needed, and of course a ton of power injection... It's definitely doable, but it would take three times as long and cost three times as much, and be three times the hassle and expense when there's a failure.
If you were looking for a similar effect, then I might suggest one of the milky silicone profiles that can be hung and can illuminate up to 360 degrees.
Just my thoughts on it...
As always .. very informative video.. great effort … hats off to you…
I’m planning to use yps.. can you pls advise which controller and power supply to use which is great and reliable
I just received my Govee Pro kit and it comes with a power supply that has the same model number as yours SOY-3600300US-306A, but it says "FOR INDOOR USE ONLY DRY LOCATION USE". Did they put the wrong power supply in the kit?
Does it say "Rainproof" on it?
Nope. It looks like a completely different power supply that just happens to have the same model number.
Mine says "LED Drive (Switching power supply)" at the top where yours says "CLASS 2 POWER SUPPLY", too.
I see the date code on yours says 2333 and mine says 2023-09
I've submitted a support request to Govee so hopefully they'll send me a suitable one that will work for outdoors while I work on getting an outlet in my attic to plug it in inside.
That is very strange.
Just heard back from Govee support: "The power brick can be use outdoor"
Not really the answer I was expecting, but I've changed the plan up a little bit and think I have a way to have the brick and control box inside the garage, so I guess it's okay in the end.
Not sure I trust that answer when the supply itself says dry locations only...
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Same here. White and "FOR INDOOR USE ONLY DRY LOCATION USE"