All Quiet on the Western Front (1979), Paul Baumer's Demise.
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Waltons & all Richard Thomas fans will delight in seeing 'John-Boy' giving the performance of his life as Paul Baumer in this great film. What a good looker he was at this time.
i love this. in the beggining the schoolmaster calls him a dreamer and dreaming on the frontlines will get you killed. the five seconds that he tryed to relive his old life and dream (drawing the same thing) he died.
See, this is a new take on Paul's death. I had always thought this was his way of committing suicide
In these few seconds he was probably feeling more alive than throughout the whole rest of the war.
He should've listened to Kantorek. What will Albert do now? His last friend is dead.
@@nb2008ncAlbert was lost too, he lost his sanity
@@Piece-Of-Time I took the part where Paul was writing him to be that Albert "got over it," like the nun told him at the hospital.
I like that final walk of his down the trench, checking on the troops, showing how much he's changed since he enlisted. He's the "old man" now, like Kat was before, even though he's only maybe 19 years old. The guys who defer to him are even younger.
U like the new one??
@@turkeeee I haven't seen it yet. I'm hoping to.
@@TanzDerSchattenit’s very good
@@TanzDerSchatten its not as good but it is amazing
although the story is different
My 10th grade history teacher showed us this movie to prove a point. At the end of the movie, she asked how many of us felt bad about Paul’s death, and nearly the whole class raised their hands. She then told us that we just admitted to feeling sympathy for the Germans. That was her point. That when in war, there is no good or bad guy. People die from all sides and backgrounds. I gained so much more respect for her for doing that, because she gave me a different view to look at. Just like in the US, France, and all those other countries, there were young men in Germany that DID NOT want to go war. They didn’t want to fight. Everyone likes to hate on Germany for the world’s conflicts, and I get where their coming from. But at the same time, it isn’t the population that’s choosing to go to war, it’s the government officials that are sending people off to die in a battle. It’s why I really enjoyed this movie
Except Nazi's they were bad.
@@johnmitchell540 Except very few Germans were actual Nazis.
My eighth grade English teacher showed us this movie and it was a very powerful experience. Much more recently I’ve been able to travel to the Somme and Verdun. While at Verdun I felt my visit wouldn’t be complete without a respectful visit to the German cemetery at Consenvoye, with the remains of over 10,000 soldiers. Each of them was a young life cut short, a hole left in a family, a life and career that was never lived, grandchildren who aren’t here today, because their government told them they had a duty to go fight and kill another group of people they didn’t even know.
Have you seen the original 1930 version?
Was she German decent or something else like trying to prove a point? I am Bavarian decent who lives in America in December 1966. We Germans always hated that people say that Germany and the Germans always make fun of people who are not connected to Germany, hate mongers, demonic, evil, wicked, murderer, horrible race of people, and blasphemous race of people.
I think the saddest part of this ending is how young all the green soldiers Paul is checking on are. He himself is still a young man but they all all just boys. Tragic.
Incredible story.
Remarque's line about " Even though they escaped the bullets and bombs, they were destroyed by the war" is so tragically true.
I read the memoirs of a German officer in WW2 who had a friend tell him " Enjoy the war. The peace will be terrible" Again, tragically true.
Paul's death came in a moment of joy. Death comes for us all, but this time, his timing was perfect.
"only the dead have seen the end of war." isnt just a touch to those lost in the war. "every night i go to bed i think about it...and all me pals."
If Paul had survived the war he would've been one of those men who remained in the army for life. He would've craved that structure and discipline just to keep himself grounded after all he'd been through.
In the book, it does not make clear, just that he is killed emotionless and he feels its his time, however, they cannot do that for a movie, its right in front of you, not left to your imagination.
The endings to both this and the original are just so sad. Both in the new version and original they find peace in War and that small bit of peace leads to their death.
Opinion of the 2022 version?
We know that Richard Thomas loved playing Paul Baumer and still regards 'All Quiet' as the favorite of his films.
You still here
Ernest Borgine was great as Kat.Every time i read the book i have Baumer and Borgine in my mind,moving through black and white images of the original film.
He stood up to more clearly see the bird and was shot by the 'enemy'. You have to realize that the trenches weren't foot-ball fields apart, in some instances they were separated by hardly any width at all, twenty yards maybe. So by standing, his head and neck were suddenly exposed and an enemy soldier took the chance and shot him.
The distance of no man’s land between the trenches actually varied from as high as 250 yards to as low as 50 yards
@@IamPatrickStar how could they get so close? you'd think that it would be hard to dig when they were close enough that they could throw grenades or shoot each other
@@vilhelmvilhelm2335 it was mostly at the beginning of the war. Plus it wouldn’t be easy to see your enemy from as far as 150 feet away
@@IamPatrickStar okay
in the beggining the teacher told him that dreams were something of his past and if he dreamed on the battlefield he would die. the moment he tryed to relive his innocent past life he was killed. tragedy? perhaps. perhaps a relief but not from the war. from what the war had done to him
The ending of this movie is what i remember most. It was so unforseen...
I agree with you completely. In the film Paul Baumer on hearing the bird is for a moment totally transported up to Heaven amid the 'hell' of the trenches. The smile on his face is so beautiful. (A great performance by Richard Thomas I think).
There's a major difference between the German Empire and Nazi Germany, learn the difference between the two, wise up.
Though 'rough' by our standards, the German Empire was fairly run and promised to be a worthy superpower. There was also religeous freedoms and economic freedoms. the SOCIALISTS (nazis) had screwed it up.
@@mverna3628 I think the Nazis were a logical consequence of the mistreatment of veterans, the "Inflation" as it's called in germany and the treaty of Versailles among other things. So the fuck up was startet by the Entente and brought to an end by the Nazis. Man someone should stop Britain and the USA from making "peace" agreements.
@@durinderunsterbliche6472 ganz genau, die Folgen des ersten Weltkrieges führten überhaupt zum Zweiten
@@mverna3628 The nazis are as socialist as the north korea is a democracy.
@@durinderunsterbliche6472 What do you expect? Thanks to Germany and Austria-Hungary, millions of men died because of old soldiers and leaders wish for another "glorious war". AH sought out a war and was looking for a reason to fight, Germany backed them and many of their generals were seeking out a war as well. Germany brought about their punishment for wiping out generations of families.
It's so weird though. If Paul would've lasted 1 more month in the war he would've made it.
Yeah. Even then, there will still people being killed on the last day of the war. Tragic.
Same as many
@@AJY987
The US especially.
Some units were engaging in assaults last day up to the 11:00 a.m. ceasefire because the officers wanted combat experience in their service records.
It's not weird, it happened all the time. The Red Baron, Manfred von Richthofen also died almost at the end of the war.
Should read about the final casualties on the last day of the war. Lots if tragic stories.
Some artillery stations even timed the impact of their final shell with the ceasefire.
The ending makes this movie all the more powerful.
I’ll never forget getting “in-school -suspension” in 8th grade and having nothing to do all day but read this book. Finished it in 2 days and then later on we saw this version in class and i wrote the best book report I ever wrote. Got an A+. Side note Bilbo baggins and Mermaid Man were in this film
I need to read the book. I saw the 2022 version and was moved.
I remember watching this at some point in one of my high school classes, and it always stuck with me. Never remembered the name of the film until a quick Google search of this ending brought me here.
1930, 1979 and and now 2022, masterpiece story of ww1
22 version is an insult
I just showed my girlfriend the original version of this movie, picked it up from a local library. Sadly, the disk was messed up and skipped around key parts, such as the montage with the boots and Kat's death. Very powerful film., regardless of a scratched disk.
For a made-for-tv movie this was superb. Richard Thomas (fresh from the hit series, The Waltons) played Paul with the sensitivity and conviction required for the role. Unlike the 2022 German version, this film is quite true to the novel in which its based. Director Delbert Mann, (“Marty”) convincingly depicts all of war that is violent, filthy, raw and uncompromising without the violent excess of the 2022 version.
This movie changed me for how I felt about people and war,I joined the marines later in life and thought about this scene all the time. When I want to feel hate for an enemy I think of this movie. It grounds me,this is humanity whether you like it or not.
The best warriors often have respect for their enemy
I'm grateful I didn't have to fight in this war.
In June 2009, an announcement was made that All Quiet on the Western Front will be remade.[2] The cast, crew, and director will be announced before the film's shoot in early 2010. The remake is scheduled for release somewhere between August 2010 and January 2011.
Saw this movie in history class, the ending was pretty sad, but really good.
A moment reaching out for a time of innocence before the war... he might have forgotten the war for a moment, but the war didn't forget him...
That's a very good point especially this week where they have had the funeral of Harry Patch, the last British 'Tommy' (fighter in the trenches) to die from WW1. He was 110 years old.
I think that Paul Baumer represents ALL of those (no matter which country) who needlessly died in the last few moments of that terrible war.
The very last American to die in that war was an Army private from PA who advanced upon a German roadblock, accompanied by one other American, with just a few minutes to go until the cessation of hostilities on the Western Front was scheduled to take effect. The victim had been a sergeant until a few months before, but had lost his stripes and been busted to private for some unknown offense. In the intervening time he'd done everything to get his rank back, to prevent his family in PA from having to live with the shame. He'd volunteered for every extra duty and dangerous mission that came his unit's way, but he was never recognized for it. When word spread that combat would end promptly at 11AM, he contrived to leave his post and mounted his two-man attack on the nearest enemy position, desperate for glory. The Germans had been retreating as usual, but one of their squads happened to be behind a hasty barricade they'd thrown up across the nearest country road. The private's buddy backed off when he saw the odds were several-to-one against them, but the private himself advanced steadily, rifle presented and bayonet fixed. The German defenders stood up and called out several times to remind him that the war was almost over, also making the universal "halt" gesture. Frantically they tried to shoo him away; several pointed at their watches. However, when he'd closed to within only a few dozen yards of the barricade he suddenly brought the rifle to his shoulder and fired one round at them, then another. A machinegun the Germans had covering the obstacle cut him down. It was effectively a suicide.
@@50zcarsman Some can't bear for war to be over if they've prided themselves on it.
An excellent re-make w/great actors for the characters.
I just finished watching this movie, and now I feel so empty. That ending made me feel so sad. (5:34pm-9:12pm, April 9 2023)
notice how in the begining he was a vieve little boy and now he's hardend by war. like how he used to be a non smoker and now he takes drags like he's done it all his life.
what a great movie possibly one of my favorites
1930:paul tried to get the butterfly and got shot by a French sniper
1979:paul tried to draw the bird but got shot by a French sniper
2022:paul got stabbed in the back by a French after the war ends
For a brief moment, I thought I saw John-boy Walton...then I read the description _and I had seen him_ !
How analogous...
People today leave their laid out path of success and go out into the world for adventure, but are considerably changed by the experience. As the main character expresses in the movie after returning home from this adventure, he no longer has the same childhood ambitions of success and accomplishment. He only knows what he has become. So he (us people) mournfully returns to the only world he now knows, only to be shot down as he catches a glimpse of his youthful promise.
I think this ending was the best out of three movies. Even though I've watched 1930 and 2022's versions, I still didn't see it coming
its so sad what man has come too. is it just me who finds horrifying that a man just enjoying nature is shot down immediatley? a great book and movie...one of the few that really display the horrors of war
We all agree that this is a good movie!
Paul wanted to die he realized that is mom is dying all of his friends are dead expect Albert but he will probably kill himself. Yes the war was almost over when he died but he realized what do I have to back to my dead mom? Kat always told him to keep his head down and he knew to do that. He wanted to die peacefully doing the thing he loved, drawing and that’s what he did drawing the peaceful birds that he heard as he passed.
One of my favourite films
the ironic part of this ending is that the war ended 2 weeks later
The communique is dated October 11. The war ended on November 11. That makes it a month--not two days.
Absolutely. In the story, Paul Baumer was one of the last to get killed.
I agree. Always adored Richard Thomas. Brilliant actor.
Remember watching this in school
It was this war that really doomed Europe ...
This movie portraits perfectly the end of Europe hegemony, they just killed each other and bled until they could no more ...
Goodnight, John- Boy.
I've seen three versions of All Quite on the Western Front, the 1930 version, the 1979 version and the 2023 version.
The 1930 version kinda felt weird to me, given that Paul deliberately leans over the sandbag barrier, exposing himself, that never seemed realistic to me, though the calm music ending with a sharp bullet sound and the visual of Paul's hand going numb was pretty strong.
The 1979 version is by far the superior though. It's a very believable scene, Paul hears a bird's singing, gets distracted for just a tiny moment and the scene of his hand cramping up and his body falling into the puddle. It's a gutpunch, that leaves absolutely no doubt how unceremonious his end was... and then we get the title of the movie super-imposed on that tragic visual.
Of course, the 2023 version completely dropped the ball. There were questionable decisions throughout the movie, but that last scene was terrible. I doubt the guy that made the movie really understood the purpose of the book... or war in general. Basically, the whole idea for the title is lost in the newest film.
@hxjay1971 Good news. If you buy the recently released blu-ray version of this film you will get it UNCUT, the full 150 mins restored! The colour and definition is superb.
The wholesale slaughter of millions of young men in that appalling war is without precedent in world history. Paul Baumer here represents all that is good, noble & beautiful amidst the squalor and degredation of the trenches. This makes his sudden demise all the more shocking. A happy ending? Maybe it is seeing his blissful response to the vision of the small bird!
80 percent of that French generations of men were killed or wounded
Well spotted! As a teacher I totally agree. What a fatal lesson to learn though!
It's madness... they all died for nothing, fucking nothing.
I’ve said this for almost 4 years now and I’ll always say it to anyone who doesn’t understand my pain for them. Mum supported me through the 3rd year of this grief that was in covid’s first lockdown in 2020 and recovered after nearly 4 years
@@nicolelawless3199 why does it affect you so much? It's a historic event. Without it we'd not have so many things. These men died for development, for what they believed was right at the time, too.
@Hawkeye7281 I agree, a great ( and inexplicably underestimated) movie. This final scene shows Richard Thomas at his subtle best. Very moving.
He is writing to his friend Albert Crop, one of only 3 of his 15 classmates still alive.
Glad you liked the movie but why do you think the ending sucks?
I think the ending I'd beautiful
Anyone could've seen this ending coming....
At the part where he visits his dead friend's mother he promises that if his friend did not die an instant death he would not come back.
Guess what, his friend didn't die an instant death so....
The book doesn't specify how he died as far as I know from reading the book.
The book just tells he fell.
IIRC his last act before "falling" was reaching out for a butterfly that had come to rest just beyond his trench. It's clear that he had exposed himself thereby and was shot by a sniper.
@@50zcarsman The butterfly was used in the 1930 film, in the book it doesn't specify how Paul was killed. It just says 'he fell in October 1918'.
I just feel awful for Paul’s death. But I had no idea it showed the German side of the war. And yes: in war, there are no bad guys or good guys; only men who are forced to kill one another. War treats everybody the same.
We saw this movie today in school, I knew that he would die , my mom told me, but I was suprised anyway. (sorry for my bad english) Really great acting!
Indeed. Is it totally tragic or should we feel elation that he died in a moment of supreme happiness?
Yes.
Otherwise the allied offensive likely would have seen a darker end for Paul.
especially after the invasion of his homeland. In that respect the relative apathy of his comrades is kind of puzzling... If you have a family, and _your_ the only thing between them and a hostile legion, do you really fall asleep on the job?
He was drawing birds again, exactly what his teacher had told him not to do in class. LESSON LEARNED:
LISTEN TO YOUR TEACHER!!!
Yeah I think he was fed up with War and he didn’t believe in violence
great movie
Is... Is that Johnboy Walton???
i had this recorded on vhs off the tv years ago,now i have it on dvd i have found some parts are cut out i dont no why,can any one help me and let me no where i can get a copy of the full uncut version from.my vhs copy got recorded over by my dad and it is safe to say there was some choice words exchanged that day, a great film which should never be cut.
Forgive and forget!
The war had changed Paul and he was scarred for life. He had nothing left to live for. All his war buddies we're dead. All he knew was life in the trenches and on the battlefield. Had he made it to armistice he wouldn't fit back in with civilian life. There was nothing left for him in this world. When Paul was killed, it was all for the better.
@Hawkeye7281 This movie is WW1 not WW2. World War 2 started 1939, this is 1918.
He obviously researched the death scene before going through with filming it. Notice how he goes rigid like a person with sudden brain trauma might, just before falling stiffly sideways into the mud.
I'm not sure he would have clutched the drawing upon being shot, rather than dropping it.
@@TaxingIsThieving If you get your brain destroyed suddenly things tend to tense all the way up. Hands grip, teeth clench, back arches. It's not pretty. Sometimes it doesn't appear to be quick either, if the brain stem thinks about running away while the rest of the brain isn't there anymore.
I watched this in history class
i saw this movie in school
@Ghostlyape123 The movie was just following the book. If you go read the book you will understand.
I was 5 years in trench (1991-1995)... My friend died 2 days before ending of war....
1914, 1941, 1991 - the same thing...
@DavidJY1970 Unlike WW2, there was no 'enemies'. Just one large alliance fighting another large alliance.
Paul's death was far too melodramatic in the latest film. This scene is faithful to the book, and far more effective at highlighting the obscenity of war.
A good french film called "les croix de bois" (wood cross) were made with french veterans of the ww1, for peoples who want to see more about this conflict
i was watching this in history and everyone was all connected to paul. then the ending came and i yelled BOOM HEAD SHOT! every one stared and laughed/cryed
@polarisathena No the war ended on November 11th, 1918
This days was October 11, 1918
wait.. he got sniped?
Sadly yes, I knew something was coming
@@nicolelawless3199 ITS BEEN 4 YEARS lmao. I appreciate the reply tho. Nostalgia. Was a freshman when I posted that comment
wasnt he drawing a bird in the beginning and his teacher said something like dont have your head in the clouds? ironic
@Gymroids thanks very much for your help i best grovel round her indoors and see if i can get a blue ray player still on the dvd.thanks again mate much appreiciated
I was just watching this on the Charge! Channel lol which is old school and this scene was on and I had no idea it was ending and I looked down at my phone for a sec and looked back up and he was dead in the trench and I had no idea how it happened. I missed the ending of Fight Club in the theater by going to the bathroom at the crucial moment too. My timing sucks. Thanks for posting this.
the war ended on 11pm on november 11, 1918 its ironic that he died about a month before the war ended, if he hadn't sketched the songbird he would have survived the war
"Keep your head down" -Kat
Goodnight John Boy!
...and we complain if there's a storm and our electricity goes out. My God.
I so agree with you.
@TheSabbath8 its a month before. i watched it in my history class and my teacher said 1 month.
this is Second Saddest WW1 ending after Blackadder
well, that was certainly depressing, poor bugger sees a thing of beauty in this war and ends up copping a snipers bullet.
Poor fucker never stood a chance.
I have seen the original black and white version as well this movie he played johnboy in thd Walton's
Did anyone hear the BBC Radio 4 afternoon play version of 'All Quiet on the Western Front' today (Saturday 7th November)?
hes looking at the bird drawing a picture of it like you see him do in the beginning of the movie at his school before he left. A british sniper (or any allied nation sniper) shot him when he stupidly stood up to draw the bird and the shot came from behind him from where his comrades were facing (the enemy trench)
He had enough i think...
after Kat's death he did not really care...
sad though..
@peacefulfb This was around the time they got rid of the spike. They found it to be unpractical, due to being an easy target.
The Germans were issued steel helmets in 1916 for the Battle of Verdun.
That's a very subtle point.
Although this is quite the best and haunting scene of the movie, there are so many annoying wrong details in uniforms and equipment like rifle, bayonet, greatcoat cut and buttons, tunic collar, belt, belt support straps (in particular!!!) that mess up the whole movie for everyone who is just a little bit interested in ww1 stuff. But nice captured Britisch boots at the very end.
Yeah but it’s a super low budget movie so I’ll give it a pass
@@hunter70558 Don't believe it was very low budget, there were some film stars acting in it...and even if budget was low, why spending money for dispensable things?
@@jachrikow well I mean it was a made for TV movie so it just naturally has a low budget but yeah I mean they probably could have got better equipment even with their budget. The 1930 version actually looks better in this regard. I guess just laziness or a just focusing on the story rather than the feeing of the time. Still at some points like after the lieutenant is shot it feels realistic
One of my favourite films. But. November not October
I've watched that movie and the original dozens of times I never could understand why at the end it says October all quiet on the Western front when it ended November 11th 1918
According to the book it is in October that Paul, the narrator, is killed. That day was so still all along the front line that there was nothing new to report.
There's nothing too puzzling about it. The communique is typical of what the German army issued every day about the progress of the fighting. Paul was killed by a sniper on what was considered a quiet day--no major action--by the German High Command.
epic fail. WW1 ended on november 11th, not october 11th.
You miss the point- Paul Baumer was killed in October. He nearly made it through the war.
I agree!
That is the only thing I was concerned while serving in Iraq’s war, snipers. Specially on quiet days.
the main thing , it wasnt one of ours !!,