7 yıldır ilk kez dinliyorum bu albümü. sen bizde kaldığın dönem dinliyodun benim de baya hoşuma gitmişti ama sen gittikten sonra ben grubun ismini unuttum. Sürekli aklıma geliyodu ulann bi albüm vardı ebuş dinliyodu diye ama bi türlü bulamıyodum. Taa ki bugüne kadar. Senin yorumunu bulmak da büyük bi sürpriz oldu 7 yıl geçmiş be 😳
2020 anyone? Coming back after all these years anyone? Or is it just me that was left with a lifelong impact from this band? I've always loved this band.
Okay I can hear it in some parts, but the vocals could do better in my opinion, because it's just lame hardcore vocals that are annoying as fuck. They don't complement the music at all. It's like he's all on his own out there.
This band is more of substructure-rip off. Which indeed was influenced by the contortionist. They were influenced by cynic and post-metal bands such as Isis.😁
Man, the instrumentals on this are amazing. The singer ruins it for me. It just sounds like he's singing over the music, not trying to complement it. I feel like if he didnt sing as often and picked and choosed when to sing, I personally would be way more down for this band. Im going to listen to this a few more times since this is my first play through and Ive never listened to these guys before. So hopefully it grows on me. I just feel like Im listening to a different version of Within The Ruins. I really want to like this band, based on the instrumentals alone.
Singing over the music? That's impossible when you mix the album in the studio. You can reduce or increase the volume of a track so it blends with the other tracks.
Joe P I wasn't referring to the volume, more the feel of the vocals along with music that was being played. I guess it's hard for me to describe. The groove of it doesn't match the music. I've always have liked a 'less is more' with this music. I'm sure others don't find it distracting, and I don't mean to be offensive, it's just my personal preference/opinion. I'll still listen to it though.
Nate DePagter I think your opinion is definitely justifiable. Most metal singers nowadays have lost the capacity of guiding you through the music, and the music has become more and more complex, in this scene. It's no secret that we don't have the Mike Pattons, the Rob Halfords and the Phil Anselmos as once.
+Lewis Taglialavore I lot of people, myself included, prefer to have a whole package. What's the point of listening to a band if you're always going to have that thought of "Man I really hate _____..." in the back of your head anytime you listen to them?
+Alex Knott what I mean is maybe the vocals aren't your most favourite part of the album but they aren't awful. They still sound good and suit the music and the guitar is insane. People can't be open minded these days and just enjoy a bit of everything. Metal heads especially are stupidly picky.
Agree man. I would much rather have these vocals than the generic prog metal clean vocals so many bands trying to be progressive are using nowadays. They seem to be carving out a pretty unique sound for themselves.
I'm gonna be that guy and voice my distaste about the drums...they don't sound good...again. It matters, a lot. The entire composition suffers to me now. I welcome the butthurt with open arms
Barry Wood Comments like these are getting old quick. There are only so many ways you can sing for any given genre. Do you seriously expect bold new vocal styles to just come shitting out of the walls every band? You remember when it wasn't so because at some point during the last decade we've come leaps and bounds ahead of where we were before, not progress isn't so easy to make. The vocals are fine, and they suit the music.
Barry Wood Well if you ask me i could name 5 other artists that could scream this song better than they did. Quite frankly i find bands everyday with a bold new vocal style. So take your shitty comment that you didn't think through very well and peace!
hahahah, I was thinking the same thing when I read your comment :D ..I like the vocals though.. so sick of the whole 'modern metal' screaming pussy crap
I looked up Misery Index and heard the Calling. ugh dude I did not like that shit at all to be honest. its all thrashy and boring, and the vocals are way worse. I know its all opinions but I can't personally see how you think Misery Index is better than this.
I've said it a number of times...SubGroove has the sickest lineup I've ever fucking heard.
This band slays!
Have you tried Slam ?
Yes, I came here because someone mentioned them in the comment section. Thank you random guy.
Erra augment
this kind of sound needs this kind of vocals. absolutely right decision.
7 yıldır ilk kez dinliyorum bu albümü. sen bizde kaldığın dönem dinliyodun benim de baya hoşuma gitmişti ama sen gittikten sonra ben grubun ismini unuttum. Sürekli aklıma geliyodu ulann bi albüm vardı ebuş dinliyodu diye ama bi türlü bulamıyodum. Taa ki bugüne kadar. Senin yorumunu bulmak da büyük bi sürpriz oldu 7 yıl geçmiş be 😳
This album and Exoplanet go hand in hand!
I feel as though this band is a fusion of Fallujah and The Contortionist. This is good, very good.
If those 2 band fucked...this is what has hatched
Why is everyone complaining about the vocals?They are fine and this album is fantastic!!
Best album of 2014?? so far!!
I wasn't really into this until I got to "Primitives". You guys caught me with that track. This is some good stuff!
this kind of sound need this kind of vocals. absolutely right decision.
I DO CONCUR!!!
This is really fucking good. Will be keeping an eye on these guys. I wish the vocals had a bit more variety though.
AMAZING! DON'T CHANGE VOCALS THIS IS PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL. QUESTIONS OF ORIGIN THO, YES!!!!
intro made me smile like hell
I have ordered this. This is the best album of 2014!
that remark is a little bold...
Sphelpsx In which way?
it aint the best album.
Sphelpsx It's an opinion. For him it could be the best album of 2014, for you it could be the worst.
Sphelpsx I see it is your opinion, but your opinion falls invalid to me, right here.
This deserves more views, astonishingly inspiring for me.
Cheers from Italy dudes!
notice how awesome the vibe is when the vocals stop at 3:50
Everyone saying that the "vocals ruin it" is pretty damn lame.
Sounds like the vocalist from... everything else these days.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Just found these guys, holy shit this is good
What a beautiful masterpiece!
2020 anyone? Coming back after all these years anyone? Or is it just me that was left with a lifelong impact from this band? I've always loved this band.
2021. I did not like them before but no i like sone tracks like Survival Notion.
Justin, who played guitar in this, was my teacher in high school. He's an awesome guy. I believe he has now left the group.
@@alexlehrersh9951 Survivalist Notion is also my favourite but i enjoy the majority of the album.
holy shit this is awesome!!
this is one great album
I saw someone compare this vocalist to the Acacia Strains vocals. Don't ever do that.
soh good
Love this band now.
awesomeeeeee
Hell yeah!
This is fucking awesome I love it my new faav band
I don't see the similarity to The Contortionist at all.
Okay I can hear it in some parts, but the vocals could do better in my opinion, because it's just lame hardcore vocals that are annoying as fuck. They don't complement the music at all. It's like he's all on his own out there.
This band is more of substructure-rip off. Which indeed was influenced by the contortionist. They were influenced by cynic and post-metal bands such as Isis.😁
I think it is a bit more prevalent in their first album.
id much rather these vocals than tesseract/ periphery vocals any day of the week
im so tired of the brutal instrumentals on top of dudes singing like girls. this is awesome. bout time i heard this band
@@HexOmega3113 - try konvent, primitive man, aegaeon, ulthar, fuming mouth, scorched, false, yellow eyes, numenorean, outer heaven, inter arma, spectral voice and krypts
Nice sounds... lml
Vocalist kinda sounds like the dude from the acacia strain..
Yeah, I can hear that for sure.
This shit is fantastic.
Someones been listening to Stories.....
Man, the instrumentals on this are amazing. The singer ruins it for me. It just sounds like he's singing over the music, not trying to complement it. I feel like if he didnt sing as often and picked and choosed when to sing, I personally would be way more down for this band.
Im going to listen to this a few more times since this is my first play through and Ive never listened to these guys before. So hopefully it grows on me. I just feel like Im listening to a different version of Within The Ruins. I really want to like this band, based on the instrumentals alone.
Singing over the music? That's impossible when you mix the album in the studio. You can reduce or increase the volume of a track so it blends with the other tracks.
Joe P I wasn't referring to the volume, more the feel of the vocals along with music that was being played. I guess it's hard for me to describe. The groove of it doesn't match the music. I've always have liked a 'less is more' with this music. I'm sure others don't find it distracting, and I don't mean to be offensive, it's just my personal preference/opinion. I'll still listen to it though.
Nate DePagter I think your opinion is definitely justifiable. Most metal singers nowadays have lost the capacity of guiding you through the music, and the music has become more and more complex, in this scene. It's no secret that we don't have the Mike Pattons, the Rob Halfords and the Phil Anselmos as once.
I don't really dig his vocals, but the rest is awesome!
woohooo if you like the acacia strain but don't like how much range their vocalist has, this is the band for you
> Implying that Vincent has range
More than this
Just because he doesn't use it in recordings, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. I've seen him use his full range live, and he is an absolute monster.
Fallujah vibes!
The vocals aren't necessarily bad timbre or tone wise, but it sounds like he's struggling in some parts (voice cracks, etc.) Still heavy as balls!
maybe that cracking was intentional? It could be used as a way of putting emphasis/emotion into it.
MossadAgent100 definitely possible!
is there an instrumental version of this
Honestly I came to listen to a Strandberg Boden.
Not sure why much hate against the vocalist, sounds fine to me? I guess its just opinion tho
+Freedish911 I agree dude, and even if they arent keen on the vocals cant they enjoy the album for the parts they enjoy anyway?
+Lewis Taglialavore I lot of people, myself included, prefer to have a whole package. What's the point of listening to a band if you're always going to have that thought of "Man I really hate _____..." in the back of your head anytime you listen to them?
+Alex Knott what I mean is maybe the vocals aren't your most favourite part of the album but they aren't awful. They still sound good and suit the music and the guitar is insane. People can't be open minded these days and just enjoy a bit of everything. Metal heads especially are stupidly picky.
+Alex Knott Yea thats true
Agree man. I would much rather have these vocals than the generic prog metal clean vocals so many bands trying to be progressive are using nowadays. They seem to be carving out a pretty unique sound for themselves.
release an instrumental version and id buy it
We need this^
Holy shit -iDol-Hands they actually have that, and it's FREE :D
theroomcoloredcharlatan.bandcamp.com/album/primitives-instrumental-2
Kevin Benoit sweet find. def downloading that.
-iDol-Hands Indeed, I downloaded it immediately. Love it.
And we actually need LESS of people that like things that are 'pay what you want' to just not fucking pay anything.
Cheap fuck.
i guess people with the name Evan think alike. would def prefer an instrumental
Hey Evan, you can get an instrumental version from our bandcamp!
awsome u guys are doin good stuff keep it up
I am the Devils like hahaha!
i like the vocals, but they sit on top of the mix too much. The drums sound so good though.
Drums are too triggered for me
I'm gonna be that guy and voice my distaste about the drums...they don't sound good...again. It matters, a lot. The entire composition suffers to me now. I welcome the butthurt with open arms
Nah, no butthurt here (at least for me!)
yeah the drums overpower the mix rather than complement it :(
Daniel Haynes no butthurt here
With aaarms wide opennn (creed) lol
OfArgento haha i was thinking that before i read your comment.
with arms wide open...under the butthurt....ill show you everythang!
The musicianship is fantastic, but the vocals kind of kill it, sorry. I think this guy sings for about 25,000 other bands.
Barry Wood Its how music works now a days
Vrhzz *
I know, I just remember when it wasn't so.
Barry Wood Comments like these are getting old quick. There are only so many ways you can sing for any given genre. Do you seriously expect bold new vocal styles to just come shitting out of the walls every band? You remember when it wasn't so because at some point during the last decade we've come leaps and bounds ahead of where we were before, not progress isn't so easy to make. The vocals are fine, and they suit the music.
Barry Wood Well if you ask me i could name 5 other artists that could scream this song better than they did. Quite frankly i find bands everyday with a bold new vocal style. So take your shitty comment that you didn't think through very well and peace!
Barry Wood Didnt mean to tag you man hahaha i understand what you mean. that was meant for Xea Vos
This needs to have pure clean vocals or none at all imo..
Id like this album as an instrumental but the vocals are super mehhhhh
+Bryson Jack theroomcoloredcharlatan.bandcamp.com/album/primitives-instrumental-2
+Bryson Jack Agreed. Not much range.
Stop complaining
If this album was instrumental it would be awesome! ....vocals aren't that great..def some of the most boring screams I have ever heard
+Commissar Evan We have the album available as an instrumental download! theroomcoloredcharlatan.bandcamp.com/album/primitives-instrumental-2
+CamTRCC thank you sir, definitely going to pick it up now
these screams are terrible and boring.
Bleh. Why did misery index take me here...? Hahaha. It's not bad, just over this whole Deathcore thing. It's all generic and boring at this point.
I dont know if you didn't even listen to this at all but it is not deathcore. Honestly the majority of the album is straight up prog.
yeah way more prog with deathcore elements, lets not be genracist here
hahahah, I was thinking the same thing when I read your comment :D
..I like the vocals though.. so sick of the whole 'modern metal' screaming pussy crap
I looked up Misery Index and heard the Calling. ugh dude I did not like that shit at all to be honest. its all thrashy and boring, and the vocals are way worse. I know its all opinions but I can't personally see how you think Misery Index is better than this.
the vocalist whhhyyyy just nooo
Finally good recommendations
Sounds like the vocalist from... everything else these days.
Your band have better vocals?