W.A.S.P (Heaven's Hung In Black PLUS Reprise) Kel-n-Rich's First Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @Bonehead777
    @Bonehead777 5 лет назад +57

    Excellent. More WASP. Definitely underrated. Definitely excellent.

    • @gemini2012100
      @gemini2012100 5 лет назад +3

      I think people had trouble getting past the image they had.

  • @samdingus9684
    @samdingus9684 5 лет назад +59

    You two need "The Crimson Idol" in your life.....all of it!!! Awesome album by Blackie and the boys!!!

    • @obfish
      @obfish 5 лет назад +5

      Yes, PLEASE!

    • @wadetomczyk8043
      @wadetomczyk8043 5 лет назад +9

      Yessss, one of the best concept albums ever made!

    • @obfish
      @obfish 5 лет назад +5

      My all time favorite album!

    • @damienmaynard8892
      @damienmaynard8892 5 лет назад +4

      #WASP Crimson Idol!!!!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!???

    • @alekskot9240
      @alekskot9240 3 года назад +1

      @@wadetomczyk8043 And then the Headlles Children album... The heaviest album ever made!!! 2 Albums masterpieces!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tox9427
    @tox9427 5 лет назад +40

    #WASP The Headless Children. One of theire most iconic songs with great lyrics, epic as epic should be.

    • @stephenholland132
      @stephenholland132 5 лет назад +1

      I remember the shit WASP got off the PMRC regarding Headless Children, until Blackie explained it was basically a song about how the human race had screwed itself without the alleged Christian Deity.

    • @bluebehir
      @bluebehir 2 года назад

      I keep recommending this song to various reviewers, with absolutely no traction. The song is a true masterpiece, and deserves its moment.

  • @billsmith11
    @billsmith11 Год назад +2

    U 2 are the best reaction out there and as a couple even better
    Here's to many years and fewer tears

  • @cbigb1000
    @cbigb1000 5 лет назад +16

    Long time W.A.S.P. fan, I loved this album when it came out. Thanks for the reaction!

  • @robysuscosas
    @robysuscosas 5 лет назад +22

    Fantastic song by Blackie, WASP have written so many classics, it's unbelievable. The Crimson Idol record should give you enough fuel to last a lifetime. His writing matured so much after "Inside the Electric Circus", it's amazing. Also, try The Headless Children, that is another special album by them. Keep on rocking, guys!

  • @freedomisslavery6840
    @freedomisslavery6840 5 лет назад +26

    The Crimson Idol is a fantastic album. Strongly advise it.

  • @HeavyRulezz
    @HeavyRulezz 5 лет назад +13

    Blackie Lawless is amazing vocalist,WASP legendary band.Hope you guys gonna listen more of them

  • @tomdavis3488
    @tomdavis3488 5 лет назад +2

    O wasp great fucken, band .. all you young pups, please listen and understand , that what you're listening too is something very sincere and beautiful all at the same time,
    ....

  • @treadtyred9742
    @treadtyred9742 5 лет назад +15

    #HappyBirthday-Kel
    #WASP Forever Free.
    The video goes go well with the song

  • @CorM1
    @CorM1 Месяц назад

    These two songs are probably the best songs ever made. The voice the guitar. Nothing else cant beat this amazing art.

  • @natashaweikath1487
    @natashaweikath1487 5 лет назад +4

    Good evening from London, hope you have had a lovely Birthday. Yes that is a lovely idea showing some of those who requested the song, I hope it works for you. This is a beautiful song, I never heard it before, thanks for sharing. Hope you both have a lovely weekend.

  • @ingobordewick6480
    @ingobordewick6480 5 лет назад +10

    This song is so awesome!!! I'm not a W.A.S.P. - Fan, I really don't like them usually, but this one touched me so deep when I heared it the first time.

    • @bigstevebeer
      @bigstevebeer 5 лет назад +2

      Think you need to give them another listen !! Try the Idol , that concept album is amazing.

    • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
      @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 5 лет назад +3

      Perhaps you know them best and were turned off by their 80's stuff. Be sure to listen to their 2000's+ stuff. WASP is very unique in that they progressed and become something much larger than their early 80's work. This is coming from a guy who's generally stuck in the 80's.

    • @alexanderholtet7463
      @alexanderholtet7463 3 года назад

      Hope you know the story behind the quote "heaven's hung in black", and Blackies meaning behind the lyrics.

  • @andycad4112
    @andycad4112 5 лет назад +2

    Happy birthday Kel.
    Love your reactions guy's - you can see how much Kel loves W.A.S.P. I think she'd like What I'll never find and also The Peace by W.A.S.P both songs are awesome.

  • @davidvukoje1406
    @davidvukoje1406 5 лет назад +4

    Miss you, golgotha, scream, Hellion, love machine, b. a. d, mean man, forever free, I could write whole day. W. A. S. P is the best band ever

  • @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
    @Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 5 лет назад +2

    Masterpiece.

  • @jamesmcconnell8969
    @jamesmcconnell8969 5 лет назад +13

    need a road trip reaction to the whole Crimson Idol album!

  • @devildriver9615
    @devildriver9615 5 лет назад +9

    Thats a killer song! 🤘⚡🔥

  • @huck944
    @huck944 5 лет назад +8

    G'day drunk uncle here being persistent.
    #wasp the horror
    #wasp wicked love
    #wasp i can't
    Stay beautiful guys.🇦🇺

  • @ivanereiz2328
    @ivanereiz2328 5 лет назад +9

    Wasp-Golgotha

  • @williambrewer9069
    @williambrewer9069 5 лет назад +11

    One of my favorite WASP songs. Love that you did this! You have to look up what the song is about it'll give you chills.
    President Abraham Lincoln when he saw the casualty reports from the battle of Gettysburg, and after reading that he said, 'Tonight the Heaven's are hung in black.'
    Do Hallowed Ground. Blackie wrote it after 9/11.

    • @US57MC8488
      @US57MC8488 5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for that. I never knew that and I'm pretty up on my history. Much respect to Blackie!

    • @rickschroeder3127
      @rickschroeder3127 4 года назад

      Actually ,it's a conversation between St. Peter and a soldier.

  • @mathiasgustafsson399
    @mathiasgustafsson399 5 лет назад +1

    Hej Kel... Here in Sweden we Love Wasp and Blackie and his music. Rock on and cheers . SKÅÅÅL

  • @drew65sep
    @drew65sep 5 лет назад +2

    Real tasty guitar work in this one...

  • @pierreascencio9140
    @pierreascencio9140 5 лет назад +10

    W.A.S.P - Charisma, Godless Run, Miss You

  • @mikepope1328
    @mikepope1328 5 лет назад +3

    u guys ROCK man

  • @sebastienlavoie9334
    @sebastienlavoie9334 5 лет назад

    I'm sooooo happy you did this one!!! I cry every single time i listen to this song.

  • @walter7895
    @walter7895 5 лет назад +3

    #HappyBirthday Kel, #WASP What I'll never Find is another WASP song that has a lot of meaning to me, it always makes me contemplate my life.

  • @LoomFactor
    @LoomFactor 3 года назад +2

    Their recent 'Golgotha'is intense. Amazing capacity to put out great tunes on a wide range of topics and themes.

    • @LoomFactor
      @LoomFactor 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/lq5UQ8gWU-A/видео.html

  • @Carvetii
    @Carvetii 5 лет назад +1

    absolutely effing awesome I just love W.A.S.P

  • @stephenholland132
    @stephenholland132 5 лет назад +3

    Hallowed Ground, written after 9/11 or Trail of Tears are excellent tracks, more balladic than a lot of their heavier, rawer stuff. My all time favourite band.

  • @mrsadistik2800
    @mrsadistik2800 4 года назад +1

    I'm just discovering your channel, and it's looking like I'm going to have to binge watch all your reactions. 😳This is what I love seeing in RUclips reaction videos, someone progressively getting into the metal genre like she is. Clearly, you have a background in this type of music, already being familiar with similar heavy bands, and you're revisiting it all while exposing her to it along the way, which is honestly amazing to watch. First off, props to her for having such an open mind and letting the music take her on her own journey like this, because when a girlfriend of mine that wasn't in to heavy music would go through my catalog of music and see albums by bands like W.A.S.P., Cannibal Corpse, Iron Maiden, Napalm Death, Judas Priest, Slayer, Black Sabbath, etc, they'd immediately express disgust. No matter how many attempts I've made to have her listen to even one simple piece of music that I felt would be accessible to her, she'd quickly shut it down as just another devil worshipping band that one would have to have severe mental problems to enjoy. It's definitely not about pushing our favorites onto one another, but you never know what you're missing unless you give it this kind of attention at least once. I think I'm going to enjoy diving into your past videos and checking out new posts along the way. 🤘 Since I'm just getting started on your reactions, I'm not sure what other W.A.S.P. songs you may have already checked out, but if you haven't done anything from the "K.F.D." ("Kill Fuck Die") album yet, may I suggest reacting to "The Horror" in the future? Definitely one of their finest performances on a highly underrated and criminally overlooked album. This song, along with "Take Me Up" are my two favorites (three,
    if you're counting the reprise) from the "Dominator" album, so great choice on this one. 🤘😁🤘

  • @ulrichhartel6805
    @ulrichhartel6805 5 лет назад +9

    I recommend you "Hold on to my heart" from WASP a fabulous ballad like only blackie can sing and sadly a very unknown song. that's why I wanted to mention it.

  • @samhouston1979
    @samhouston1979 4 года назад +1

    Happy belated birthday Kel

  • @obfish
    @obfish 5 лет назад +2

    LOVE W.A.S.P.!

  • @markgoody4098
    @markgoody4098 5 лет назад +2

    "Tonight the Heavens are hung in black"..Abraham Lincoln upon hearing the casualties for the Battle of Gettysburg,hence the songs title ,song itself centres around a dying soldier at the gates of heaven and St Peter telling theres no more room because of all the killing ,verses of the song are St Peter ,and the chorus the soldier..just an fyi ..makes the song more profound if you know the meaning behind it

  • @bernardthierstein907
    @bernardthierstein907 Год назад

    Fantastique, grandiose !

  • @robertzach8150
    @robertzach8150 4 года назад

    Soooooooo Amazing at all ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @InfWolf
    @InfWolf 5 лет назад +2

    Hey guys, so glad to see you guys doing another video on this amazing understed band. I could recommend 20 songs off the top of my head from these guys that you guys should listen to. Happy birthday Kel!
    I have been patiently waiting to see you guys do my request so please, whoever reads this comment. Give it a thumbs up. It would be great to see these two react to a great band that they havent done yet
    #Gunsnroses Civil war studio lyric version.

    • @Kel.N.RichReactions
      @Kel.N.RichReactions  5 лет назад +1

      We will get around to GnR. Definitely. May most likely. Thank you for the hashtagged request. We are simply unable to track any other requests at this point. We are having a computer program being created that will track and report requests and will only be able to pick up hash tagged requests in the proper format of:
      #name of artist Name of Song Where YOU are from
      Thank you!!!!!
      Rich

    • @InfWolf
      @InfWolf 5 лет назад

      @@Kel.N.RichReactions thanks for the speedy response. Hope you guys are well! I'm taking a trip to Ormund beach soon and I'm super excited.

  • @cavemanbricklayer4008
    @cavemanbricklayer4008 5 лет назад

    Omfg!!! Wasp was the shit when I was growing up in80s blackie has an excellent voice.

  • @FarazOloumi
    @FarazOloumi 5 лет назад

    Obscure, yet great songs by them! and THANK YOU for actually putting the last dot after the P in the bands name!!! \m/

  • @stevenlochrie3951
    @stevenlochrie3951 3 года назад

    Lost my grandad 3 weeks ago this song reminds me of him I miss him so much 😭😭

  • @paulmallon9033
    @paulmallon9033 5 лет назад +2

    This band is one of the few bright spots that came out of the hair metal scene

  • @xxfamousx951xx
    @xxfamousx951xx 4 года назад

    Great song

  • @danielclaeys4976
    @danielclaeys4976 Год назад

    Hello you guys hope all het well with you ? greeting from an old metal fan from belgium

  • @gsmith7309
    @gsmith7309 5 лет назад +3

    Wasp I'm impressed don't hear them often enough.🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘✌✌✌✌✌💣💣💣💣💣

  • @tonemarieantonsen1597
    @tonemarieantonsen1597 5 лет назад +7

    Happy birthday to you Kel 🎉🎊🎁🎂❤. Please please react #WASP. song GOLGOTHA .Imagine hearing Blackie sing this song live standing on the stage with his impressive 6.4 feeth and big black hair ,just amazing. Get really emotional .☺❤❤

    • @danadickerson91
      @danadickerson91 5 лет назад +1

      Beautiful song. So much emotion emitting from that song. He does a wonderful job of getting that desperation across through his voice and the music.

    • @tonemarieantonsen1597
      @tonemarieantonsen1597 5 лет назад +1

      @@danadickerson91 Have you ever seen W.a.s.p live. 🤔

    • @danadickerson91
      @danadickerson91 5 лет назад +1

      I haven't, no. They were one of the 80's bands that I would have liked to have seen, but never got to.

    • @tonemarieantonsen1597
      @tonemarieantonsen1597 5 лет назад +1

      @@danadickerson91 So sad😔. Been fortunate seeing them twice. Hope get the opportunity too . ☺

  • @saurdino350
    @saurdino350 5 лет назад +16

    W.A.S.P. Sleeping( in the fire),😊please

  • @royisler7448
    @royisler7448 5 лет назад +5

    #W.A.S.P. Golgotha please please please

  • @MrJocky82
    @MrJocky82 2 года назад

    Scream my name and hold onto my heart please!?
    I love wasp so much.
    Kel gets it😎

  • @hannukujanen3522
    @hannukujanen3522 5 лет назад

    love to see ur reaction,I felt the same,thank you

  • @jambosdad4880
    @jambosdad4880 5 лет назад

    Love wasp saw them at donington 92 I only went to see them blackie had a cold but still gave it everything was fuckin brilliant

  • @bernardthierstein907
    @bernardthierstein907 11 месяцев назад

    Fantastique morceau

  • @franktrainer169
    @franktrainer169 3 года назад

    Same here first heard wasp in my thirties love me some wasp

  • @JayTor2112
    @JayTor2112 5 лет назад +11

    #WASP - The Horror
    and that intro to this song made me think of:
    #IcedEarth - Gettysburg 1863

    • @tonemarieantonsen1597
      @tonemarieantonsen1597 5 лет назад

      Love that song ❤

    • @huck944
      @huck944 5 лет назад +1

      I've requested The Horror a few times but I'll do it again.

    • @tonemarieantonsen1597
      @tonemarieantonsen1597 5 лет назад

      Something i find dissapointing is that i do not get any responses of my request. I am a new subscriber and do not know if they have taken any notice of my comments 😔

    • @huck944
      @huck944 5 лет назад

      @@tonemarieantonsen1597 they do respond when they can but they have become so popular that it takes time .

    • @andrewbrorherton6898
      @andrewbrorherton6898 5 лет назад +1

      Gettysburg is one of the great metal masterpieces ever.

  • @BenRai2k
    @BenRai2k 5 лет назад +2

    When is Kel going to get a guitar fret board tattood up her arm? I suggest "Seas of Fire" by Wasp :-)

    • @Kel.N.RichReactions
      @Kel.N.RichReactions  5 лет назад

      Oh god that's good. It can be a stick on that changes with each React vid. Sweeeeet. Or implants of the real thing? Hmmmmmm...... Rich

  • @MrSharkJB23
    @MrSharkJB23 4 года назад +1

    I’ve been a fan of theirs since 1985, as a fourteen year old. Have you listened to “Golgotha” by W.A.S.P.? Musical masterpiece

  • @manowKISS1234
    @manowKISS1234 5 лет назад +1

    #WASP The Heretic I'm from St. Joseph, Missouri, USA the reason I like this song is because it is an awesome song and it has one hell of a drum solo in it! Don't know how to post the link! #hopeIdidbetter! LOL!!!

  • @kelt1971
    @kelt1971 5 лет назад +4

    #W.A.S.P. Blind in Texas

  • @RaskaanRockinValtiaat
    @RaskaanRockinValtiaat 5 лет назад +3

    Accept - Kill The Pain is good ballad too. And new W.A.S.P - Golgotha song is amazing.

  • @soula912
    @soula912 5 лет назад +2

    Godless Run, Miss you, hallowed ground, mean man, wild child, sleeping in the fire 🔥

  • @cavemanbricklayer4008
    @cavemanbricklayer4008 5 лет назад

    Thank you for playing sum W,A,S,P. ON THE ALBUM HEADLESS CHILDREN DO #WASP LAKE OF FOOLS USA very good music do urself the honors of listening to the album u won't regret it

  • @SilverTounge85
    @SilverTounge85 5 лет назад +4

    'The Idol' from 'The Crimson Idol'.

  • @Silent-Lucidity
    @Silent-Lucidity 5 лет назад +3

    Dream Theater shirt!!! Awesome!

  • @joaosantos8430
    @joaosantos8430 5 лет назад +3

    WASP. I miss you

  • @mikkosak
    @mikkosak 5 лет назад

    #wasp I wanna be Somebody Audio. 🇫🇮 I was 10 in 1984 when I heard this for the first time on the field when I was picking potatoes with my family in autumn. Radio was on in tractor and I came an instant fan for this band. At that time I was huge Kiss fan, but Wasp was very Raw in the beginning and that hit like a hammer on little boy... Great memory!

  • @raymondolsen5998
    @raymondolsen5998 5 лет назад +7

    W.A.S.P: Trail of Tears

    • @michaelcroft6913
      @michaelcroft6913 5 лет назад

      Hell YES !

    • @milenawick5594
      @milenawick5594 4 года назад

      I was a fan as a teen but stopped listening because I heard they were devil worshipers. I came across W.A.S.P. again about 3 or 4 years ago... I was so mad at my self for ripping myself off from their great music for all those years. I listen to them daily now, and about two years ago I traveled to Europe to watch them play in Belgium and Paris. My favorite band!

  • @kingdevil66
    @kingdevil66 5 лет назад +2

    Charisma is another great W.A.S.P. song you should listen to

  • @ghfett2002
    @ghfett2002 4 года назад +1

    This is my favorite W.A.S.P. song.

  • @boysrback5690
    @boysrback5690 5 лет назад +4

    Golgotha

  • @RaskaanRockinValtiaat
    @RaskaanRockinValtiaat 5 лет назад

    Twister Sister - The Kids Are Back is legendary song :)

  • @mikehoy2213
    @mikehoy2213 5 лет назад

    Happy Birthday Kel!!

  • @Xwolf-ragex-codm
    @Xwolf-ragex-codm 2 месяца назад

    #WASP " one tribe " - still not black enough album (very obscure and underrated album) from Virginia, usa. keep rockin' to the good stuff 🤘🤘🤘

  • @Silent-Lucidity
    @Silent-Lucidity 5 лет назад +7

    My favorite lyric from WASP: The Gods you worship are steel, at the alter of Rock N Roll you kneel!

  • @azrocker06
    @azrocker06 5 лет назад

    Love that DT shirt huge fan of DT!

  • @bigmike1166
    @bigmike1166 5 лет назад +1

    And once again, members of W.A.S.P. are in the song "Star" by Hear n' Aid ... Dio,Queensryche Priest and others you have watched whom all appear in the song Stars..as does Lynch, of Dokken, Cavazo of Quiet Riot, Malmsteen, Gillis, Dharma, Campbell of Dio and the vocals are soo good. Please react to this song...thanks

  • @krissolet
    @krissolet 5 лет назад +1

    I know I am only one man... But I would like to present you a band that started this classical metal genre... Well they haven't actually started it... I mean Deep Purple was one of the greats that did it... But it seemed that it all started after this one band tried to put it's hand around it and I guess made it there own. The band is called Believer and there tune is called "Trilogy of Knowledge". It's the most beloved tune of theirs... But that's in my eyes... After listening to the trilogy, your ears will never ever be the same.

    • @Lathander73
      @Lathander73 5 лет назад +1

      Dies Irae is my favorite from this band but yours is a solid choice as well. Symphonic thrash metal at its best

  • @gregjohnson298
    @gregjohnson298 5 лет назад +1

    Check out Wasps song " U" from the KFD album lol Awesome!

  • @randygonzalez1375
    @randygonzalez1375 5 лет назад +1

    Wasp forever free. Next please .

  • @rogerherrington5725
    @rogerherrington5725 4 года назад +1

    "Heavens hung in black" was Abraham Lincoln's response when he was told of the death total from the Battle of Gettysburg. Tonight, the heavens are hung in black.

  • @ethanmcgee3648
    @ethanmcgee3648 3 года назад

    Anything off the album Dying for the World, especially “Hallowed Ground”, is incredible. Blackie Lawless wrote the wrote almost immediately following 9/11 and you hear the emotion and anger in every song.

  • @FranciscoMoura-y4t
    @FranciscoMoura-y4t 4 месяца назад

    ❤❤

  • @azrocker06
    @azrocker06 5 лет назад

    Have every studio CD from W.A.S.P. favorite is Headless Children.

  • @BlackieNuff
    @BlackieNuff 5 лет назад

    Love this song. I mixed the reprise with the main song (via a wee crossfade) so that is it one complete, uninterrupted song.

  • @gsmith7309
    @gsmith7309 5 лет назад

    Wild Child 💎

  • @shaunsmith7651
    @shaunsmith7651 5 лет назад +1

    WASP : Golgotha. Blackie Lawless went from Metal Animal to Christian, and still has it!

  • @blacknwhitecookie8967
    @blacknwhitecookie8967 3 года назад

    It's been a while on WASP for you guys. Would love to see what you think about their song, Hallowed Ground. It's beautiful

  • @RavenShinyThings
    @RavenShinyThings 5 лет назад

    yes wasp nice one

  • @nekane6168
    @nekane6168 5 лет назад +1

    #MetalChickPick GO BLACK!!
    #Belzebubs Cathedrals of mourning
    #Belzebubs Blackened call
    Genius and hilarious. Masterpieces. You'll love them

  • @iraqired
    @iraqired 4 года назад

    Chainsaw Charlie! What a great band!

  • @michaelvaughn7735
    @michaelvaughn7735 5 лет назад

    all WASP albums are great. I have them all.

  • @mikeyb8040
    @mikeyb8040 5 лет назад +2

    WASP - The Great Misconception of Me (please) . I know Im not adhering to the new request protocol. But that is one of those epics like Maiden's _Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Much love

  • @dalelammers1
    @dalelammers1 5 лет назад +1

    #Anathema Internal Landscapes. Dallas Texas

  • @bubhub64
    @bubhub64 5 лет назад

    Still have a chewed up drumstick to this day from Wasp drummer Tony Richard's from a Wasp show at The Trubadour in Hollywood in 1983. And also a true story, me and some friends without tickets were able to get into a Sabbath with Ian Gillen concert in 1984 at the LA Forum when we saw a tall Blackie Lawless with his long jet black hair walking by himself on the outer sidewalk of the Forum, where we approached him and asked him,if he could get us inside the show through the back service entrance, just like the kid from Almost Famous. Blackie obliged and was able to get me and three other guys into the show by saying we were with him. He was a super nice guy; different from his raw meat eating and blood spitting stage persona. An aquantance of mine had lied about some tickets that he said would be waiting for us at the Forum will call window. Our luck changed when we saw Blackie walking by himself that night! Also, happy b-day Kel!

  • @damienmaynard8892
    @damienmaynard8892 5 лет назад

    Sound at start of this video very low! This song is good intro to the sounds on #WASP 's Crimson Idol. Great to see you enjoying WASP. More, please!

  • @tomdavis3488
    @tomdavis3488 5 лет назад

    Invisible boy

  • @mikeyb8040
    @mikeyb8040 5 лет назад

    BDSM metal at its best hahahaha. Happy Birthday Kel

  • @pedropinto4008
    @pedropinto4008 4 года назад

    You paused the music in the only second you shouldn´t (first time)and you miss the drive to that climax. Once you start paying attention back to the music ,he was already in the plateau and your minds were:ok, let´s see what he has to offer

  • @tskwerl
    @tskwerl 5 лет назад

    Oh, yeah. Been a W.A.S.P. fan since The Last Command. Blackie has written some of the best power ballads ever made. He doesn't get nearly enough credit.

  • @Surfer-iv4qs
    @Surfer-iv4qs 5 лет назад +1

    Good song 😁
    But Heaven can wait is even better...

  • @jamesnorthup7717
    @jamesnorthup7717 4 года назад +1

    Golgotha!!!