Théodred, Prince of Rohan - Epic Character History

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Théodred was the son of Théoden King, and the Prince of Rohan, whose time came to an unfortunate end in the war against Isengard. Today, we explore this prince’s history and what could have happened if he had survived! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Комментарии • 89

  • @paulsteinhauser434
    @paulsteinhauser434 2 года назад +49

    Theoden raised his son well, even though it sadly came to a swift end.

  • @Relics_of_Arda
    @Relics_of_Arda 2 года назад +15

    What I like about the new logo is that it looks like a mix between Bilbo's door with Rohan and Gondor designs.

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад +1

      You nailed it in one sentence! Glad you enjoy the design 🙏☺️

  • @orrointhewise87
    @orrointhewise87 2 года назад +49

    "No parent should have to burry their child."
    I definitely think he would have been a great king. But he more importantly would have been able to bring back his father from the brink. Probably a reincarnation of Helm Hammerhand himself. Would love to have seen him at the charge of Pelennor fields, take down orcs and men of the east, and even get married and seeing the crowning of Aragorn. Sigh. 💔

  • @garmisra7841
    @garmisra7841 2 года назад +8

    It's not really gone into in depth but I imagine Theodred was pretty badass. He was like Eomer's big brother, and someone the future King of the Mark really looked up to.
    Grimbold was a bad ass too, rallying his forces in the retreat from the Fords of Isen, and fighting and falling like a true valiant G on the Pelennor fields.

  • @apdarkness3027
    @apdarkness3027 2 года назад +7

    A most interesting chronicle of yet another hero of Arda, like many great warriors of Rohan Prince Théodred understood and accepted that the protection of his people demanded the most labor and sacrifice.

  • @thebrotherskrynn
    @thebrotherskrynn 2 года назад +3

    No parent should ever have to bury their child, his father burying him reminds me of Alfonso burying his own heir and living years after the fact consumed by grief. It also reminds me of Andromache in the Greek Myths burying Astyanax her son by Hector.
    Truly, though Theodred would have made a great King, thank heavens Rohan still had Eomer as a spare heir. Thankfully Theoden did not long outlive his son and instead died as his son did; valiantly ere he went to join him.

  • @ErnestoCifer
    @ErnestoCifer 2 года назад +3

    I started binging all your videos recently after a long time, and I was excited about the new logo

  • @mikemichailidis1685
    @mikemichailidis1685 2 года назад +6

    It's a pity Theodred died so young and because of Isengard raiding Rohan all the time alongside the men of Dunland

  • @beaupreston9872
    @beaupreston9872 2 года назад

    Amazing video as always, I love the story of Theodred. He’s possibly one of my favourite characters from Rohan. I’m so glad you enjoy the logo too! It was so fun to design and seriously appreciative to see my work up on your channel🙏☺️☺️

  • @istari0
    @istari0 2 года назад +1

    I think a video on what if Théodred survived the battles at the Fords of Isen and played a bigger role in the War of the Ring would be an interesting one.

  • @eebee8052
    @eebee8052 2 года назад +1

    the quest in lotro where you ride with theodred is one of my favorites..

  • @magmar7118
    @magmar7118 2 года назад +1

    I have a “what if” video topic suggestion: What if Frodo didn’t have the mithril shirt and died in Moria? Perhaps Sam would be the new ring bearer, or would the Fellowship’s quarrel get them all killed?

  • @jesuscoyt-munoz2753
    @jesuscoyt-munoz2753 2 года назад +1

    Hello Yoystan I really like this video as I was always fascinated by Theodreds history and I feel like a, “What if,” video you could do is if he survived the attack from the Uruk hai. For me it wouldn’t change that much at most it’d just include another fierce warrior on the side of Rohan but I’d like to hear your thoughts.

  • @michaelshen2803
    @michaelshen2803 2 года назад +1

    "No parent should have to bury their child."

  • @paulwagner688
    @paulwagner688 2 года назад +9

    Imagine at the Hornburg with Aragorn, Eomer, and Theodred. But would Theodred have wed Imrahil's daughter instead of Eomer? Hmm.

    • @robertdendooven7258
      @robertdendooven7258 2 года назад

      I am surprised he hadn't married before the War given his age. It wouldn't have worked in Tolkien's story though.

  • @marionbaggins
    @marionbaggins 2 года назад +4

    Man, Théodred you and Boromir would have done so much, but you guys were killed too soon!
    I think Théodred would have been another elder brother to Eowyn with Eomer in the early days of Eowyn, growing up with Boys...I know what's that like!!!
    Thanks, Mellon for Théodred ECH, Until Why Men can't go to Valinor... *Is reason called: The Trio of Ar-Pharazôn + Sauron + Numenoreans* Marion Baggins Out!!!!

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 2 года назад +1

    Yes logo is great

  • @GUMMRUCHK
    @GUMMRUCHK 2 года назад +1

    This is why monarchs are supposed to have numerous children.

  • @Halbared
    @Halbared 2 года назад

    Where is the first picture of the death of Théodred from?

  • @altal2993
    @altal2993 2 года назад

    Question: If The Rings of Power fundamentally change the narrative, characters and indeed the legendarium, will your upload s reflect the new or the old?

  • @MalloryIsaiah
    @MalloryIsaiah 2 года назад +3

    I just did a video of his dad Théoden king of Rohan go check it out

  • @alanmike6883
    @alanmike6883 2 года назад

    Yoystan.
    Noble and true likely how father and cousins..
    The king that never was...

  • @enemy-rogue
    @enemy-rogue 2 года назад +2

    Great content as always. Here is a great soundtrack for a future video: ruclips.net/video/Q21sr60ox0A/видео.html I think it would especially fit a topic related to the first age.

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 2 года назад

    Theored son of theoden . Rest in the peace.

  • @natedorney7032
    @natedorney7032 2 года назад

    Wes Thu Hal, Theodred

  • @carlambroson8872
    @carlambroson8872 2 года назад

    He was strong in life! His spirit will find its way to the forge of your father’s!

  • @12345678900987659101
    @12345678900987659101 2 года назад +1

    Westu hál

  • @orangexlightning
    @orangexlightning 2 года назад +43

    "No parent should have to bury their child."
    Good afternoon Yoystan! Always good to see another upload. New logo is legit!

  • @catherinewhite2943
    @catherinewhite2943 2 года назад +14

    I wonder that Wormtongue got as far as he did insinuating himself into Theoden's councils with Theodred alive.
    Perhaps Theodred's death prevented a too-early attack on Isengard that would have prevented a decimated Rohan from arriving at the Pelennor Fields, and helping Aragorn to choose the Paths of the Dead.

    • @istari0
      @istari0 2 года назад +2

      I think Saruman had a great deal to do with that. Theoden was clearly under the influence of more than Grima's voice.

  • @twall415
    @twall415 2 года назад +20

    Your lesson from this story reminds me of my mom, who passed away earlier this week. Untimely and unnatural, and so unfair, but in mourning we owe it to our loved ones past and present to carry the torch that is passed to us.
    Thank you for another meaningful video Yoystan, and I look forward to tuning in again next week. Kudos to Raffe for your new thumbnail.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  2 года назад +7

      I'm so sorry for your loss Tom

    • @rondawiebe1505
      @rondawiebe1505 2 года назад +3

      ❤️

    • @alanmike6883
      @alanmike6883 2 года назад +2

      Tom you have my sympathy. I know all too well what it's like
      .
      🙏

    • @twall415
      @twall415 2 года назад +1

      @@MenoftheWest Thank you Yoystan ❤️

    • @twall415
      @twall415 2 года назад +1

      @@rondawiebe1505 Thank you Ronda ❤️

  • @shadowofchaos8932
    @shadowofchaos8932 2 года назад +7

    Tolkien decided to kill Theodred for the story. Events would definitely be different for Rohan if he survived. It made King Theoden a more tragic character in the final book.

    • @carlambroson8872
      @carlambroson8872 2 года назад +2

      Perhaps if Theodred survived, perhaps Theodin would have also.

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317 2 года назад +9

    Just have to say I love the new logo! My Master Sauron would be pleased

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад +1

      Awesome to hear! It was so exciting to create this one for Yoystan ☺️

  • @rondawiebe1505
    @rondawiebe1505 2 года назад +8

    Theodred gets too little attention. As Boromir, Theodred died well.

  • @christianfarren1179
    @christianfarren1179 2 года назад +20

    “He was strong in life. His spirit will find its way to the halls of your fathers.”-Gandalf the White.
    Never knew he had so much backstory.
    Pleasantly surprised by the new logo as well. The style reminds me of the Norse sagas that inspired the Legendarium.

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 2 года назад +7

    I dig the new logo too, reminds me of the upcoming animated film about the Rohirrim.
    A most ill tragedy that Theodred was cut down while young and not able to succeed his father and prove he was equally a great hero & king of his People.

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад +1

      I appreciate the feedback on the logo! Thank you ☺️

  • @Huskytabby
    @Huskytabby 2 года назад +4

    Another great video, Yoystan!

  • @phajthoj
    @phajthoj 2 года назад +12

    Theoden: "No parent should have to bury their child"
    Gandalf: "Theodred's death was your making"

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 2 года назад +4

      “…none of your making.”

    • @phajthoj
      @phajthoj 2 года назад

      @@timonsolus depends if you blame theoden from being mind controlled by Saruman

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 2 года назад +5

      @@phajthoj : Theoden was an ordinary man. Not a pure Numenorean like Aragorn or even a less pure one like Denethor. And he was up against the most powerful of the 5 wizards - Saruman the White. Also, his closest advisor, Grima Wormtongue, was a traitor and was actually poisoning the king - not with lethal poisons but with ones designed to weaken his body and weaken his willpower.
      So it’s not surprising that he fell under Saruman’s evil mind control spell.

  • @Relics_of_Arda
    @Relics_of_Arda 2 года назад +5

    First!

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 2 года назад +1

    In The Two Towers film, Theodred is portrayed younger than he was in the book. His death is a major event early in the movie, whereas, in the book, it has all happened by the time the Three Hunters come to Rohan. He is brought heavily wounded albeit barely alive to Edoras and tended by Eowyn before dying. His burial is shown in the extended edition. Theodred was played by Paris Howe Strewe.

  • @marcusaurelius9577
    @marcusaurelius9577 2 года назад +2

    Do you think since Sauron has a physical body do you think he would be able to reproduce
    And have children and if he did how powerful do you think the child would be

    • @caiobotelho9733
      @caiobotelho9733 2 года назад +2

      Probably,melian did it.
      As powerfull as luthien

    • @istari0
      @istari0 2 года назад

      I think it is possible although other than Melian none of the Valar or Maiar are known to have had offspring. As to how powerful they would be, a lot would depend on the other parent.
      I have my own private theory that Morgoth used Sauron to create dragons as Sauron was particularly known for his shapeshifting abilities; this would help explain why dragons are so intelligent and powerful. But it's just my theory; I've never run across anything in the Legendarium to support it.

  • @jackcroft4969
    @jackcroft4969 2 года назад +1

    recent subrscriber, love your channel

  • @azhr8499
    @azhr8499 2 года назад +1

    906th person to view

  • @Dare_To_Game
    @Dare_To_Game 2 года назад

    I do like the new logo. I think its a little less Gondor, and a little more Rohan. Reminds me of a family crest that you would get from someone who left Gondor and formed a new house in Rohan. Bringing the crest of the citadel with them, but adopting many of the aspects of Rohan.

  • @Toviyah
    @Toviyah 2 года назад +3

    Amazing new profile picture!

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад

      So glad you enjoy it! I loved making it 😁

    • @Toviyah
      @Toviyah 2 года назад +1

      @@beaupreston9872 oh you made it! That’s so amazing you’re such a good artist!

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад

      Thanks so much!! It’s so nice seeing such great feedback ☺️

    • @Toviyah
      @Toviyah 2 года назад

      @@beaupreston9872 You keep getting great feedback because your work is amazing haha

  • @scottgrunow5201
    @scottgrunow5201 2 года назад

    Interesting that perhaps Elfhild is the only example in Tolkien's corpus of a woman dying in childbirth.

  • @sockshistorychanel7715
    @sockshistorychanel7715 2 года назад

    Can you cover the history of any of the following (listed in order of how much I want to see them)
    Goblin Town
    Lake town
    Dale
    Iron Hills
    Grey Mountains
    Blue Mountains
    Linden
    Ossiriland

  • @jeffbosworth8116
    @jeffbosworth8116 2 года назад

    Strange reason for liking Theodred: In a boardgame I got in the earl 80s (or was it late 70s?) the picture of Theodred was way cooler than Eomer's,

  • @michaelheatherwall2495
    @michaelheatherwall2495 Год назад

    Thank you for making this video. I learned something things I didn’t know about these events. One of my favorite minor characters so so glad to see this!

  • @treyreveal9780
    @treyreveal9780 2 года назад +1

    Logo is top tier

    • @beaupreston9872
      @beaupreston9872 2 года назад

      Awesome feedback, it a such a fun collaboration! ☺️

  • @erikfurst8984
    @erikfurst8984 2 года назад

    You should do a “what if bilbo hadn’t given up the ring?” video

  • @atlasfeynman1039
    @atlasfeynman1039 2 года назад

    The screenshots from LOTRO are awesome! I own the same mount.

  • @wojta610cz5
    @wojta610cz5 2 года назад +2

    Would love to see video about Erkenbrand

    • @robertdendooven7258
      @robertdendooven7258 2 года назад +1

      Is there really much info about his exploits before arriving back at Helm's Deep. I have seen Tolkien's stories of the first and second Battles of the Fords of Isen, but there really was no description as to where Erkenbrand was with all his men. If he was on his way to the fords, then why didn't he attack the army from Isengard? Did he see the army was too big and moved aside to follow after them?

  • @TomLaios
    @TomLaios 2 года назад

    2:53, why are the riders posed on railway tracks?

  • @ronnie5340
    @ronnie5340 2 года назад

    What are your thoughts on the moria game?

  • @stimpsonjcat67
    @stimpsonjcat67 2 года назад

    Damn Yoyst...this is the stuff you do so well.
    I can sort of keep up based on my knowledge, but props for your work tying it all together.

  • @ronnie5340
    @ronnie5340 2 года назад

    Wha video game zrethose images from?

  • @matthewwilson8292
    @matthewwilson8292 2 года назад

    Just game from LOTR FOTR at the Royal Albert Hall - still can’t get enough :) Great video!

  • @scottcameron174
    @scottcameron174 2 года назад

    This part of the tale in both the books and the movie always makes me tear up.