have you noticed that her right wrist is always covered? Even when she was in the orphanage. Each of her outfits covers her wrist. Maybe it means something? I don't know.
A fantastic video which suits Cinder extraordinarily well, especially for the end of Vol. 8 where she has come to realize that "her storm" (her desire and lust for power) was overtaking her strategic choices, so she has learned to temper both. Though she is likely unredeemable (RIP Pyrrha, Vernal, Penny) seeing her push herself through continual failure to learn and improve upon herself has been an interesting journey.
If Kratos showed anything, it is that anyone can change for the better regardless of the number of dead you have behind your back. That said, Cinder is not going to redeem herself or survive.
@@extop1390 When I think of Cinder, I'm reminded of Magus from Chrono Trigger, someone who has an enormous amount of deaths attributed to him. Killed one of the main character's best friends. Believed that power would get him everything he needed, was brought up in an abusive environment (by his three "generals".) but upon his eve of success, it all goes wrong and he loses the power he strived so hard to obtain. Cinder hasn't reached the point yet where she sees her vaunted power is useless. Once she does, it may cause her to reflect on her actions and reconsider her path. She is, after all, the Maiden reflecting Choice.
@@HighPriestFuneralYou yourself hypocritically consider her irredeemable because apparently killing a bandit who kills steals and kidnaps if the payout is high enough is worse than killing NPCs and the same to other two, then surely you consider Neo redeemable despite the fact that she shares with Cinder many similarities, but she only kills NPC but for you of course it doesn't count. Leaving aside your double bar measuring the introspection go away in this volume and nothing change, and you don't give any arguments to justify its survival so reflexión personal or no you don't think she will survive either. Choice in fiction is an empty concept, like fictional characters, their destinies are scripted so they don't really have. Plus everyone on the show has that illusion of choise so literally anyone can represent it. Oh and let's remember that Beacon's Vault is a red herring, which could be an insult at Cinder by the writers calling her a fake maiden.
@@extop1390 Eh... was this meant for me? I think that anyone can be redeemed, it just requires proper reasoning, which is to say that Cinder is not beyond redemption. Neo especially so, upon reading Roman Holiday I have an affection for her character as it enriches the narrative tremendously, for me. Heavens, even Watts wasn't entirely beyond the pale. same with Jacques. I'm much more fond of redemption narratives than "so evil they cannot be allowed to live!" Or "They fell so far they could not get back up."
@@HighPriestFuneral Congratulations from hypocrite you have promoted Brian Griffin. "especially Neo." If you would have left it there but you didn't have to talk about narrative as if RWBY was a masterpiece in that field. Anyone with minimal knowledge in narrative knows that Neo is a fandom mascot position for which she gets favorable treatment from the writers had no reason to she come back and that novel (by the way very funny Roman uses the Grimm's attraction to negativity but in the show he forgets that and dies for it.) only thing that novel does is solidify Neo's position as a character Mary Sue was a child prodigy at everything except making friends, Oh Yeah no sounds like a Mary Sue. Your way of washing your image now is to say you considered those two redeemable and that's your problem using names to measure. You put Vernal as a countdown victim of Cinder then the Shinon victims don't deserve justice for what the Branwen tribe did, nor the Atlas operatives and the soldiers that Neo killed or the hunters that Hazel killed, but the thing is with the RWBY narrative is that if Cinder does something it is portrayed as more heinous and unforgivable and if another character does it it is portrayed as bad but not as bad as if Cinder had done. Wells in your cases kill a random people no is the same that kill a character with time off screen.
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2 years later this amv still makes me feel bad for cinder
Love it! Really fits Cinder well!
Best. Girl.
Facts
I never noticed that scar on Cinders neck till today 😔🥺 poor Cinder
have you noticed that her right wrist is always covered? Even when she was in the orphanage. Each of her outfits covers her wrist. Maybe it means something? I don't know.
@@vnivans4366 maybe self harm ? Damn I hope not . Cinder deserves better . change my mind .
@@cinderfall1396 I agree
@@vnivans4366 Noice
It is hard being an orphan.
This video actually made me care about cinder. Not even the episode did that
Outstanding! Excellent job! As you say, This AMV was awesome!! Well done vNivans. This AMV is really good.
Thank you so much!!!
A fantastic video which suits Cinder extraordinarily well, especially for the end of Vol. 8 where she has come to realize that "her storm" (her desire and lust for power) was overtaking her strategic choices, so she has learned to temper both.
Though she is likely unredeemable (RIP Pyrrha, Vernal, Penny) seeing her push herself through continual failure to learn and improve upon herself has been an interesting journey.
If Kratos showed anything, it is that anyone can change for the better regardless of the number of dead you have behind your back.
That said, Cinder is not going to redeem herself or survive.
@@extop1390 When I think of Cinder, I'm reminded of Magus from Chrono Trigger, someone who has an enormous amount of deaths attributed to him. Killed one of the main character's best friends. Believed that power would get him everything he needed, was brought up in an abusive environment (by his three "generals".) but upon his eve of success, it all goes wrong and he loses the power he strived so hard to obtain.
Cinder hasn't reached the point yet where she sees her vaunted power is useless. Once she does, it may cause her to reflect on her actions and reconsider her path.
She is, after all, the Maiden reflecting Choice.
@@HighPriestFuneralYou yourself hypocritically consider her irredeemable because apparently killing a bandit who kills steals and kidnaps if the payout is high enough is worse than killing NPCs and the same to other two, then surely you consider Neo redeemable despite the fact that she shares with Cinder many similarities, but she only kills NPC but for you of course it doesn't count.
Leaving aside your double bar measuring the introspection go away in this volume and nothing change, and you don't give any arguments to justify its survival so reflexión personal or no you don't think she will survive either.
Choice in fiction is an empty concept, like fictional characters, their destinies are scripted so they don't really have. Plus everyone on the show has that illusion of choise so literally anyone can represent it. Oh and let's remember that Beacon's Vault is a red herring, which could be an insult at Cinder by the writers calling her a fake maiden.
@@extop1390 Eh... was this meant for me? I think that anyone can be redeemed, it just requires proper reasoning, which is to say that Cinder is not beyond redemption. Neo especially so, upon reading Roman Holiday I have an affection for her character as it enriches the narrative tremendously, for me.
Heavens, even Watts wasn't entirely beyond the pale. same with Jacques. I'm much more fond of redemption narratives than "so evil they cannot be allowed to live!" Or "They fell so far they could not get back up."
@@HighPriestFuneral Congratulations from hypocrite you have promoted Brian Griffin. "especially Neo." If you would have left it there but you didn't have to talk about narrative as if RWBY was a masterpiece in that field.
Anyone with minimal knowledge in narrative knows that Neo is a fandom mascot position for which she gets favorable treatment from the writers had no reason to she come back and that novel (by the way very funny Roman uses the Grimm's attraction to negativity but in the show he forgets that and dies for it.) only thing that novel does is solidify Neo's position as a character Mary Sue was a child prodigy at everything except making friends, Oh Yeah no sounds like a Mary Sue.
Your way of washing your image now is to say you considered those two redeemable and that's your problem using names to measure. You put Vernal as a countdown victim of Cinder then the Shinon victims don't deserve justice for what the Branwen tribe did, nor the Atlas operatives and the soldiers that Neo killed or the hunters that Hazel killed, but the thing is with the RWBY narrative is that if Cinder does something it is portrayed as more heinous and unforgivable and if another character does it it is portrayed as bad but not as bad as if Cinder had done. Wells in your cases kill a random people no is the same that kill a character with time off screen.