Hey I tried making my own today and I can't get a steady stream of steam I did a 10' 1/4 in roll of copper and wound it into a 2". I have it tapped straight into a hose outside. I am using mapp gas as well.
Sounds to me like your coil might be to short , i would have to see it , tell you what some time today im gonna be posting a video of the one i just built yesterday and ill try to go over some problems and solutions , a garden hose is only like 30 psi so you will need at least 100 psi for a good steam blast like the one in the video , either your coil is to short or your pressure is to low and your getting vapor lock , the input pressure must exceed the the boiler pressure to function properly .the boiler pressure is the result of coil size heat input and orifice dimensions
So what do you think a good linear foot of copper tube would be to wind into a coil. Also how can I make a charge tank. And the best way I can describe how the coil acted was when the water was turned on anymore than 1/4 turn the coil just couldn't get hot enough to turn it into steam
im not sure how to tag you ? any way it sounds like you need a longer coil and a pre heater , check out this test ruclips.net/video/AByuw_dgkVE/видео.html. I found that you need map gas also , the propane did not fair well
no sir but my thought is it would glow red hot emitting infrared heat to the coil i like it ., i have decided to add a stainless steel cowling to the coil hoping it will contain the wasted heat and glow red hot to heat the exterior of the coil
Yes i even consider placing a stainless steel helix inside to act as an infrared emitter . past testing has shown that poor heat transfer takes place between the coil and the center pipe , i have built several super heated steam devices and had to braze the coil to the combustion liner , a very expensive move in my position and then i decided at least with the coil being expanded lengthwise the flames could pass threw and heat the sides of the steam line
Сделай спираль под конус, помести в закрытую ёмкость ( в твоём опыте ты греешь атмосферу ) и подавай воду капилярно из простого ведра расположенного выше уровня спирали. Создай герметичную, конусовидную камеру сгорания. Термоизолируй еёчтобы исключить тепловые потери. Пламя уменьшится и КПД повысится.
Have you considered trying this using a Tesla valve (a sort of one way simple valve) to regulate the water travelling into the coil? I was curious and had the idea that it would allow for a lower necessary driving pressure for the supplied water.
no the water pressure dictates the output pressure , in this test we used 50 to 100 psi of air pressure to pressurized a bottle of water with a straw down the center , kinda like when you squeeze a juice box and juice sprays out the top
Im trying to build this out of 3'8 ID tubing so it has a nice big flow. Do you think this is to big for proper pressure? How big should i make the coils and how long each coil?
I dont recommend that at all friend , you need a small coil to keep the water moving very fast , i feel like a big unit will give pulsating splatters and not a constant flow also the torch can not heat up such a large volume of water quickly and this would result in a sudden large spray of fluid and steam then only very hot low flow steam might come out , but try it bro i could be wrong , the idea is to only boil a very small amount as it flows quickly threw the pips , then the boiling steam excelerates it , my boiler uses 2 coils , it starts really small then gets bigger to make room for steam . also in a small tube the pressure can stay very high , this allows the water to get hotter then 212 geg or 100 c without boiling , then as it exits the high pressure tube it "Flashes " into steam with tremendous energy , with a large tube you wont get the flash effect unless your building a massive coil with a huge fire ball and very high pressure flow
It's just 3/8 do you really think that is to big? What did you use? 1/4? What would be idea to increase pressure flow (sorry for multi post) I'm very talented at many things so I learn very quicjly
It was still to be portable just a little more industrial type for bigger projects. But not to to big. How much psi do you think I would need for that to work? I was going to make an attachment that hooks up to the water hose or other fitting and a possible pump integrated into design if need be. Your project is pretty legit but I'm going to nna tweak it to some of my knowledge maybe put a Handel on. A have a torch head high temp gets bigger then the demonstration in your video however it's just slight more flame like but I feel like it still reaches the same temp, my question would be is that at a rapid point VS to how you had yours set.
sorry friend but i cannot give my email , these days its hard to tell who is tricking you but i would be glad to help you , just use the PM system on youtube or just use the video as a discussion platform
Is that copper tubing?
Hey I tried making my own today and I can't get a steady stream of steam I did a 10' 1/4 in roll of copper and wound it into a 2". I have it tapped straight into a hose outside. I am using mapp gas as well.
Sounds to me like your coil might be to short , i would have to see it , tell you what some time today im gonna be posting a video of the one i just built yesterday and ill try to go over some problems and solutions , a garden hose is only like 30 psi so you will need at least 100 psi for a good steam blast like the one in the video , either your coil is to short or your pressure is to low and your getting vapor lock , the input pressure must exceed the the boiler pressure to function properly .the boiler pressure is the result of coil size heat input and orifice dimensions
NOBOX7 ahhhh I see thank you
Is there a parts list? Really want to try building this myself. What are you using to supply water?
So what do you think a good linear foot of copper tube would be to wind into a coil. Also how can I make a charge tank. And the best way I can describe how the coil acted was when the water was turned on anymore than 1/4 turn the coil just couldn't get hot enough to turn it into steam
Im still working on a perfect coil size myself . i have some videos coming up and one uploading now to examine what needs to be done .
NOBOX7 can you tag me in the vid
Trying to get one built today but I don't wanna waste more money on materials when I'm not sure if it will work
im not sure how to tag you ? any way it sounds like you need a longer coil and a pre heater , check out this test ruclips.net/video/AByuw_dgkVE/видео.html. I found that you need map gas also , the propane did not fair well
Have you considered a steel pipe in the center to evenly transfer heat to the coil?
no sir but my thought is it would glow red hot emitting infrared heat to the coil i like it ., i have decided to add a stainless steel cowling to the coil hoping it will contain the wasted heat and glow red hot to heat the exterior of the coil
Yes i even consider placing a stainless steel helix inside to act as an infrared emitter . past testing has shown that poor heat transfer takes place between the coil and the center pipe , i have built several super heated steam devices and had to braze the coil to the combustion liner , a very expensive move in my position and then i decided at least with the coil being expanded lengthwise the flames could pass threw and heat the sides of the steam line
Сделай спираль под конус, помести в закрытую ёмкость ( в твоём опыте ты греешь атмосферу ) и подавай воду капилярно из простого ведра расположенного выше уровня спирали. Создай герметичную, конусовидную камеру сгорания. Термоизолируй еёчтобы исключить тепловые потери. Пламя уменьшится и КПД повысится.
Have you considered trying this using a Tesla valve (a sort of one way simple valve) to regulate the water travelling into the coil? I was curious and had the idea that it would allow for a lower necessary driving pressure for the supplied water.
great idea on the tesla valve , i know exactly what your talking about
Pipe size
Soo, pressure came from the heat coil right? No need pressure water?
no the water pressure dictates the output pressure , in this test we used 50 to 100 psi of air pressure to pressurized a bottle of water with a straw down the center , kinda like when you squeeze a juice box and juice sprays out the top
Im trying to build this out of 3'8 ID tubing so it has a nice big flow. Do you think this is to big for proper pressure? How big should i make the coils and how long each coil?
I dont recommend that at all friend , you need a small coil to keep the water moving very fast , i feel like a big unit will give pulsating splatters and not a constant flow also the torch can not heat up such a large volume of water quickly and this would result in a sudden large spray of fluid and steam then only very hot low flow steam might come out , but try it bro i could be wrong , the idea is to only boil a very small amount as it flows quickly threw the pips , then the boiling steam excelerates it , my boiler uses 2 coils , it starts really small then gets bigger to make room for steam . also in a small tube the pressure can stay very high , this allows the water to get hotter then 212 geg or 100 c without boiling , then as it exits the high pressure tube it "Flashes " into steam with tremendous energy , with a large tube you wont get the flash effect unless your building a massive coil with a huge fire ball and very high pressure flow
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It's just 3/8 do you really think that is to big? What did you use? 1/4? What would be idea to increase pressure flow (sorry for multi post) I'm very talented at many things so I learn very quicjly
It was still to be portable just a little more industrial type for bigger projects. But not to to big. How much psi do you think I would need for that to work? I was going to make an attachment that hooks up to the water hose or other fitting and a possible pump integrated into design if need be. Your project is pretty legit but I'm going to nna tweak it to some of my knowledge maybe put a Handel on. A have a torch head high temp gets bigger then the demonstration in your video however it's just slight more flame like but I feel like it still reaches the same temp, my question would be is that at a rapid point VS to how you had yours set.
ive decided to go an entirely different route friend , i think we need a better torch
how many ounces of silver does that thing have? you could retire with it.
not sure what your talking about , if your referring to the brazing , its bronze or brass pretty sure its just brass
I noticed you sold one of these units to a machine shop. How do I get one?
Well my new version is far better then this .
ruclips.net/video/_v3tllZNBuk/видео.html
email me at nobox7@yahoo.com
Heh, I like it!
Thanks more footage coming soon , i cleaned a chain saw with this and it worked great
Reminds me of the "heat exchangers" my buddy and I used to build to heat our pool. This one works way better.
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Hey brother congratulations for making such a great steamer ..If you don't mind can I have your email I need your help.
Thanks
sorry friend but i cannot give my email , these days its hard to tell who is tricking you but i would be glad to help you , just use the PM system on youtube or just use the video as a discussion platform