Milwaukee Tools New Gen 3 M18 Fuel Compact Wrench Vs. M12 Stubby Impact Wrench
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2020
- Brian Eslick from How to Automotive www.howtoautomotive.com/ talks with you about the new generation 3 Milwaukee Tools M18 Fuel 3/8 Compact Impact Wrench and the M12 Stubby Impact Wrench to help you decide which tool would be best for you.
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I own mostly snapon impacts but that stubby 3/8 Milwaukee is a beast. The combination between power and size is awsome.
M12 stubby hands down love that little guy
The m12 did great with the small cp battery pretty sure with the xc battery they are the same power
@@legros731 the 6.0 gave mine a noticeable boost in power over the 2.0
@@jake-mv5oi doh made a error wanted to said more power fucking auto correct
U love the m 12 stubby and everyone else that use it, that include me
Compact and powerful
Btw I love your video man! You make it really easy to narrow down your decision on tools. I also love the live demonstrations. Keep on killing it borther !
excellent comparison, best on RUclips! I have been on the fence, but ultimately I had to focus on what this tool is for and with me it is to maneuver and get into tight spots. That M18 battery in the way bothered me and I was glad to see that concerned addressed in this video. So there has to be a trade off and when the big torque is needed then you go to a breaker bar or a heavier impact. The stubby seems clearly to be optimum for all the smaller fastener removals, plenty of torque for those applications, light weight and small size....just the ticket and clearly this is what it was designed to deliver.
I’m hooked on your vids since I just got into the Milwaukee platform lol. M12 stubby is by far my favorite. I’m also looking at the new gen 2 m18 mid torque.
Can’t go wrong with the June to mid torque. Glad you like the videos thank you for watching!
Well done! The sign of a good review is a balanced discussion.
Thank you! Which one do you like?
@@HowtoAutomotive Excuse me I was wondering if new compact will lose power overtime. Your the closest I know to a mechanic that uses these tools and would appreciate your input.
Great review. From the perspective of practical application, it was especially good.
Took my brand new stubby to the junkyard. It was amazing seeing how it spun off rusted bolts, in 15 yr old cars. All with a small foot print, and lightweight. Shady junkyard dudes were eye balling it too!
Nice!
hahaha
Great review, really like seeing the comparison while actually working on a job. Subbed
Glad you like the video thank you for the sub and for watching!
Thanks for this. I will likely get both, but will start with the M12 Fuel Stubby. Need something that can work in the small spaces around an engine.
Great review on using the tools in actual repairs and not just torque testing.
Thank you!
Most useful video! Thank you. I didnt even know the stubby existed. Ended up exchanging the 3/8 m18 for the m12 stubby since i have a million batteries. Then got the m18 1/2 mid torque as well. What a combo! i didnt realize how dumb i was being.
I’m thinking of doing the same combo but afraid that I might need the high torque for the m18
I'm all in on m12... love that line! That being said, m18 is where is at. I own both, but my m12 is what I grab 90% of the time
Awesome job comparing the two….thank you
I like the 3/8” drive M12 Stubbie it’s good for a lot of jobs. If I need more power I jump to the 1/2 drive M18 mid torque. I like the Mid torque because it has to hit less and is therefore much quieter. I have 2 and 3 Ah compact batteries and a XC 6.0 for the M12 and 5 Ah for the M18.
Probably better to get both. Just bought the M18 gen 3 1/2” but w 650 ft lbs. I did also buy a pair of M12 4 amp per hour batteries with charger for $129 at Home Depot online. I’ll will get the M12 stubby but want the updated version with the 3 led lights.
Excellent video. The main point is that if you're working on heavy duty components such as suspension and chassis, you need something that exceeds 250ft lbs and these two wrenches won't cut it.
I was check out the Compact at Home depot today and boy it really felt good in my hand. I really like it. I think it was an M-18
Stubby ❤️❤️❤️❤️Thank you for sharing this research ✌️
Thank you for watching!
The M12 Stubby and the M18 Mid Torque Gen 2 are the power couple. Yeah that means 2 battery platforms, but I have both anyway and the flexibility of the Stubby would be worth it even if I didn't.
Agreed 3/8 stub & 1/2 mid
@@soundretarded Personally, I went 1/2" for both. The lighter mass of the 3/8" anvil and sockets rob power, and the Stubby is so short that length of the socket isn't a problem for me (and I work on a Mini - lol).
I'll stick with my m12 1/2" and 6 AH battery. The heavier sockets and bigger battery seem to give it a big boost in power. I'm just a DIYer though.
the 3/8 is stronger than the 1/2 version
@@dwrldgster3151 no
@@SnD340 it is !
Great info and video. Thanks
Love my M12 Stubby.
One of my favorite as well!
I just got the M12 stubby and it’s awesome! I believe the M12 Stubby and the M18 Mid Torque seem like they would make an awesome pair. Even now that the new Gen mid torque is a little bit more compact then the previous Gen!
I agree the stubby in mid torque combination is awesome!
This is the combo that I'm going for lol one for light/ medium (stubby) other for mid to big jobs (mid torque). I won't need anything more than 600ft tq so I'm good lol
@@oserratos those are the two I use the most. Rarely use the high Torque
@@HowtoAutomotive thanks man. Thought was a great combo myself. Won't need anything else for a good while. 👍🏽
Agreed. 3/8 Stubby and 1/2 Mid-Torque.
Great combination!
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
Good video Brian. I’ve been wanting to get one of those m12 compact but just don’t have money for it yet. I could see both of them being limited to just under the hood / interior work at least from where I’m at in the rust belt PA. I have the snap on cordless 3/8 gun 12V and the only bolt that it’ll touch under the car are the caliper like bolts.
Yeah I would say they’re both light to medium duty tools. In the rust belt you may want to step up to the mid torque .
Just recently bought the M12 stubby..i live in Ct and have to deal with the northeast brown loc-tite too..first job i used it on was a full brake job and alternator replacement on an older mazda 6..did the job remote so air tools werent an option..worked fine on caliper and the alternator bolts i could access with it..struggled a bit with the caliper mounts so i switched to an 18v ryobi..12v did take the bolts loose but with some effort whereas the 18v spun them right out...18v ryobi has 2 years of regular use on it..lot of suspension work..its a good affordable option. But man those compact 12v guns are really nice just for the weight savings..especially for an old fart like me.
@@JimsRustyOldNuts I agree the weight saving is hugeAnd the ability to be mobile.
I've owned the m12 stubby for almost a year now, and it is a slick little beast. Absolutely love it. Personally I wouldn't buy the m18 stubby simply because why buy two tools to do the same job. You can't go wrong either way. Now I'm looking to get the newer mid torque. (Been a mechanic for a little over a year and a half)
You would love the new mid torque!
i just got the compact 3/8 to replace my stubby bc once those m12 batteries plastic clips breaks (which they always do) the damn thing is a nightmare to use bc the battery rattles loose under impact. there great for the ratchets, horrible for any impact guns those clips can’t hold up
Milwaukee 2554-20 M12 3/8 stubby with 4.0ah battery and Ridge R8621B 1/2 high torque 1/2 impact covers the heavy suspension with Milwaukee 2126 M12 underbody LED light covers most of my automotive needs. I do have full tool Snap Air tools as automotive tech as back up if the cordless battery stuff runs out in middle of job.
thanks, should have also tried stubby with 3.0 XC battery to see if it would do it
I’ve been wanting to add the M12 3/8 to my toolbox for a while now. I think it’s probably inevitable that Milwaukee will redesign the M12 at some stage with the new halo lights so for me personally I think I will hold off. I already have the M18 1/2 high torque. I purely wanted the M12 for the tight spots.
I suspect they will have an upgraded version out soon. But I have not heard of any.
11 months later and im also waiting for a new gen stubby. I am invested into the m18 line and not the m12 and this would be the first m12 tool id want. Id feel more comfortable buying it if it had a little more oomph.
@@wettosixecho I said same thing to someone else about gen 3 m12. It takes Milwaukee 6 years to upgrade from fuel gen 1 to gen2. So we are looking at roughly 2024 spring
@@herogreat2797 2 years later we are still waiting haha
Still waiting unfortunately @herogreat2797
Great video, thanks.
I do like the m18 3 light feature. But for the price the m12 stubby is definitely the better option. If you need anymore power than you might want to have the m18 fuel full size impact gun for the big jobs like I do. But definitely grab for the m12 stubby first.
i have all m12 and I love my lil homies
In my humble opinion for the compact size go to the m12 fit more places
I own the M12 Stubby and it is a great tool.
I have being looking for reason to get the high torque but all I am working on is a motorcycle and the stubby is powerful enough for all I do😂
M12 with a 6 amp battery and heavy wall sockets is the ticket
Don't forget universal sockets/adapters for those tighter spots!
Great video!
Great review
Thank you!
I love this real world comparison
Thank you!
Damn bro, both tools look amazing! I think as a DIYer the M12 makes more sense (all else aside). BTW, I can't believe I haven't subscribed to your channel before with all your great reviews. Subscribed! Cheers!
This is exactly what Im talking about. Real world applications. You have the best comparison vids dude. Keep it up! Would you recommend 3/8 or 1/2 for the M12?
I got the 3/8 mid torque and getting the 3/8 stubby for ally engine bay /small stuff. You hardly use the 1/2 and for those very little times you'll use the 1/2, throw on an 3/8 to 1/2 adapter.
@@oserratos Got the 3/8 with the 2.0 battery as well with the TF-332M impact set. All together for under 250
thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching!
great info
I use the M12 3/8 stubby more than any other battery powered tool I own, I wish it had the 3 lights like the newer M18 tools though, I might buy the M18 compact, it would be nice in between the stubby & high torque I use
Great vid.
This comparison was great albeit flawed. I love the work you put into it, but I feel as though it wasn’t a fair fight. The M12 stubby with a 6 amp hour battery would have performed just as well if not better according to torque test channel and many others. I understand the benefit of running the 2 amp hour battery to save space but the 6 amp hour battery on the M12 really doesn’t impede as much in tight spaces as the M18 5 or 6 amp hour battery. Therefore I believe the better choice of the two would still be the M12 so long as you’re OK with swapping batteries more often. Regardless it was still A great video and I appreciate the time and effort you put into it. Thanks again. Cheers!
Definitely the M12 stubby. The whole point is compact and tight spaces, if space isn't an issue get the M18 mid torque. Get both and you'll be set for most jobs. This M18 compact is geared for the person who has M18 platform and doesn't want to get into the M12 platform and wants a smaller option.
I got Dewalt 12 volt stubby and the 20 volt mid torque, perfect combination, and it's easy to own both 12 and 20 volt with Dewalt cuz all chargers work with 12 and 20 volt batteries, some tools like the stereo take 12 and 20 volt batteries too
m12 stubby is where it's at, I had a normal sized impact, wasn't exactly enough for me needs. I bought a high torque used for a great price, and sold my normal impact, came to the realization rather quickly working mostly on suspension/brakes that the high torque is very nice, but very large ... to large most of the time in fact.
I got a stubby, and love it, I don't see a real need for the m18 compact, it's small, I'll give it that, but with the larger battery it really takes away what I love about the stubby. The stubby fills a legitimate need for folks, this can as well, but it has a downside.
If you just had the m18 compact you could probably make most things work without issue, but coming from too large, the stubby impressed me with what it can do.
Great video
Thank you!
DEFINITELY THE M18 WE DO LOT OF TRANSMISSION REMOVE R AND R. BY THE WAY BRAIN GREAT VIDEO.
Thank you!
Great Video
Thank you!
Wouldn’t the 3/8 long reach or standard m12 ratchet be more suited for the bolts in the engine Bay Area?
Question let me explain first each battery has different levels theres alway some ending part to the batteries example ho. cp. Xp. Cps ect ect not the same second the m12 does have all kinds of sizes and different labels off each sizes i have a m12 6.0 that seems never dies . So my questions what batteries version was he using? Xp? Cp?
Battery life? using the Stubby with a 4 or 6 AH battery would have made a hell of a difference, while still keeping the M12 stubby more compact than the M18. The watt-hours on that M18 5Ah are much higher than the M12, 2Ah. All keep my M12 stubby not worth the upgrade quick yet, maybe when gen 2 Stubby comes out. Thx for the review, awesome.
M12 stubby 1/2” w/4.0 battery here, way lighter for the day literally does most jobs.
do you do any engine work? I got the 3/8ths on that deal. Then realized that there is no benefit. Socket sets are 7mm -19 where as a 1/2 you have 8mm to infinity almost. So I figure with the 1/2 if I need smaller stuff I can just get the adapter to go from 1/2 - 1/4 for any small stuff such as motorcycle work and like engine stuff
@@WestCoastShredders Yes adapter from 1/2” to 3/8 or 1/4 is the way to go 100%. Yes mostly tires/brake/engine works but it definitely won’t take crankshaft bolt for sure, I also bought the GEN3 1/2” mid-torque so unless u work on trucks otherwise it’s plenty enough.
M12 3/8 can do suspension work?
@@andytsoi1465 you using the mid torque on trucks? Trying to decide between the gen3 mid and the high torque
@@michaelstavila2750 For truck, u might as well get the high torque one in case of something very rusty.
I bought a m12 stubby 1/2 works great and I was gonna buy the other m18 version just so I can use it for a longer period of time and I bought the mid torque with 550lb by mistake 😅
I own both, in reality the M18 has about 25% more power which just enough for tougher jobs that usually require a mid-torque.
IMO you meed both 1/2 M18 compact + 3/8 m12 stubby is a perfect combo for 95% of situations. * the m10 needs the 3.0 or 6.0 high output batteries to get the most out of it.
not to be an ass... or nitpicking... just saying for the sake of understanding
'duty' isn't a measure of power but time (and so, toughness). if you can use a tool 24/7, say in a factory, it's a heavy duty cycle tool.
i know the term was corrupted by marketing...
even a tiny screwdriver is heavy duty if it can be used continously in the correct manner and application, and still hold up.
thanks for the comparison,
i have the M12 stubby
I'm looking at picking up the m18 kit here in the next week or so. I'm using it mostly for lugnuts and wheelbearing type stuff. My main concern is will the m18 have enough lead in its pencil to handle axle nuts?
I've seen videos of it taking off nuts up past 500 ft lbs of torque
Me at 1:48 "OOOOO a 4runner" lol
the m12 does hit harder with the 6 amp battery btw
It does.
Yep
shit smacks
Between the last two recent videos, the M12 stubby is great for light to medium duty work which is probably best suited for a 3/8” drive. For suspension work and removing lug nuts, the Mid torque is the way to go. Do you recommend the mid torque to be 1/2” drive?
They just released a brand new mid torque. you'd probably want a 1/2 because midtorque is going to be used for heavier stuff. Stubby should be 3/8
Get the 1/² the sockets are heavier
Thanks for the good advice. Just picked up the 1/2” drive. Was thinking of using a smaller battery like CP 3.0 to keep it lighter than using a 6.0 battery.
Recently got the m18 stubby in a 3/8 not sure if i made the right purchase cause haha
I just ordered the M 12 stubby with a friction ring And a free 2 amp hour battery FOR 179$
Nice!
Lol same, gonna be getting a m12 6.0
@@bigchungus7720 Yeah me too. I also already have two of the bigger style three amp hour batteries so I can set it up right
With that deal came with atleast a 4.0 though.
The 4.0 and the 6.0 batteries are by far the best. 6.0 is best imo.
Thanks for the review. For battery life just put the bigger battery in the m12. There's now a 5.0ah m12 battery that is high output it will give you more power.
I have the new battery’s and they are making a big difference .
@@HowtoAutomotive awesome :) milwaukee never disappoints
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Milwaukee pack out system with socket set with stackable boxes on wheels are good for road service calls for tow truck drivers
I use them in my Jeep when I take it off road.
M12 + 6ah for me the best
I've got the M12 stubby but I find myself using the snap on 14.4V the most because the rocker trigger.. even though it's longer i find it still gets into places better because the m12 stubby is too chubby.
Okay so here’s my dilemma.
I’d love to get the m18 compact and the m18 high torque so I can use the same batteries for the both guns
With the stubby I’d have to buy a different battery.
But stubby looks so much more efficient and I love the small package.
So it’s either
1. One m12 3/8 stubby and battery
One m18 1/2 high torque impact wrench and battery
Or
2. One m18 3/8 compact wrench
One m18 1/2 high torque impact wrench and 1 battery for both guns.
Which combo sounds the best to you guys? 1 or 2 ?
I’m finally investing in some tools for my automotive journey 😊
Home Depot has combo deals all the time. There might be a deal for Labor Day.
This is a good review, having torque you can’t use is like having no torque at all.
With the m-18 you can use the 3.0 battery and save some space and weight over that big 5.0 battery.
Which one one would you use to repair power wheelchair
I would go with the M12. Same power but smaller.
At this time I plan to get the 3/8 stubby but dont have a full set of impact rated sockets currently, what are your thoughts on using the stubby with non impact sockets on light duty work until I can buy more impact rated sockets?
I think you’ll be fine. Because it only has up to 250 foot pounds of torque and you’re going to be using them on smaller fasteners you’re not gonna have a problem.
@@HowtoAutomotive That is basically what I was thinking. I do plan on getting 3/8 impact rated sockets when I can afford to. I already bought a decent set of 1/2 inch impact rated sockets for my new mid torque.
@@HowtoAutomotive Guess who just scored a new 3/8 stubby? this guy!
@@punkin7144 nice!
@@HowtoAutomotive Hello Brian, I was wondering if you make a video of your more commonly used sockets, adaptors, extensions, and adaptors when using impact wrenches for automotive work when your time allows?
Does it reverse?
M12 stubby paired with a m18 mid torque.
Do you see any benefit of going with the 3/8 Stubby over the 1/2? I saw another reviewer demonstrate that the 1/2 was able to break lug nuts faster than the 3/8ths because of the slightly larger anvil inside of the 1/2 in. Would be interested in seeing your comparison of the two sizes in a real world environment.
Actually the 3/8 has way more break away power than the 1/2 Milwaukee
The stuby did great with the cp battery pretty sure it will have removed the subframe bolt with the xc battery
The only advantage a see is the longer run ti.e for the m18
You’re probably right it might’ve done it with the XC battery
The main advantage of the m18 besides more ipm I'd being able to run the high output batteries. Obviously the down side is the size. On the m12 the 6.0 turns it into a different impact, it hits!
So 4.0 battery or 6.0 for m12 stubby?
6.0
Next time try the M12 with 4 amp batteries because 2 amp will not produce 250ft pounds
Why do you use the 3/8 over 1/2 inch??
The main reason is I have a lot more socket options. And if I’m using half-inch stuff I will go for the mid torque or the high torque.
@@HowtoAutomotive i see
M12 all day
The bigger battery will give it a significant amount of more power.
How much is M18
Seeing you let them bolts just fly off into the engine bay is painful to watch
Not by choice. I have to stand off to the side so I don’t block the camera. Normally I would be more squared up in a better position to catch this before they drop.
Not trying to be picky, but I think there is a mistake on your thumbnail title.
so what is the mistake so it can be corrected?
Doug H. in VA on the thumbnail it says m12 compact. Shouldn’t it say m18 compact?
Anybody got news if a new m12 stubby is coming out ?
I was just at their pipeline event in Milwaukee and there was no mention.
That m18 5.0 battery is so big it defeats the purpose, a smaller 3.0 high output would’ve been more comparable. Especially if you threw a bigger 3.0 on the m12 as well. Both tools are almost the same size with the battery’s off.
I use m12 stubby for so much if it can’t handle the job I break out a cheap harbor freight air powered impact.
Picture is very misleading. This is not the mid torque it’s the compact 3/8. No wonder I was reading the comments and a bunch of morons were saying the stubby was better. Well it’s about the same as the compact but the mid torque will blow it out of the water
Missing lugnuts test
Every video out there has the Lugnuts in it. I wasn’t gonna do it
I was disappointed with the new M18 1/2".
I want it i want it i want it 😕
This basically means:
If you live in a rust-free area: M12
Canada or Rust Belt: M18
Umm... no. They both have the same torque. If you need more torque get the mid torque or the high torque. Completely different units than the ones in this video.
I couldn’t stand the fact that you are just letting the nuts and bolts just fall when you take them off. That’s one of my biggest Pet peeves.
Can’t help it I’m running a camera and microphone. It’s not the same as working with the camera off. I don’t like dropping them.
Did you have any experience with the M12 prior to this video? 🤣
None. 1/2 M18 mid torque 2nd gen ftw.
3rd gen mid torque smokes the 2nd gen. I think the point is to choose between the compacts.
What??? Why would you ask that question? You don't "choose"....... you go out there and get BOTH. Both are necessary.
Makes sense to me. But not everybody can afford both so they have to make a decision.
M12 is GARBAGE...AT LEAST THE ONES CONSUMERS BUY(THE ONES THEY SEND RUclipsRS ARE BETTER). MINE DIDN'T LAST A YEAR AND LESS THAN 30 TIMES TOTAL
I assure you the ones that they send us out are no different than the ones you get. Sorry you had a bad experience
Did anyone else notice he is wearing a mask 😷 working on a car....what is this world coming to
Dust……