John Bedini said you can Not swap the batteries. A different energy. However the primary battery does not need any charge in it,,,the system will run and perform with a dead primary battery! Really incredible
In video I just watched, I thought I heard him say you could switch it ( make something to automatically switch out the batteries, that's the way I saw it ) , and run it till the bearings wear out . That is something I thought of myself before seeing the video. But then he also talks about it being different form of energy and it won't work. ( ?? )
The exciter works on a dead battery? I'm not really familiar with the Bedini device but that alone tells me this thing is taking advantage of parametric variation of the field storage coefficients, like a dead capacitor the dead battery will have at least some latent charge, oscillating that in the correct manner will vary either the inductance, capacitance, or resistance of the circuit with respect to time which is known to either synthesize or destroy power in the system. Steinmetz referred to this as Synchronous Parameter Variation.
This was super cool sir. Check out "air core vs iron core- they are all the same" by Paul Babcock ( friend and associate of John Bedini ). It's well worth your time sir. Thank you for uploading.
It's not the battery that's charging the battery it's the spike....the peak in the spike produces a different type of energy, it reads as a negative on the meter, this system requires patience and alot of understanding......try the shawnee circuit and throw out what you think you know....... It does work, you need to think in a different way.... Read all the info on this... Tesla made it work
Leave the negative hooked to the battery. Take your positive lead of your meter and hook it to the collector side of the neon light and you can let the motor run
If you don't put a capacitor across the charge battery. The battery will charge the battery with a weird form of electricity because the source for that form of electricity is the coil, not the supply battery. The capacitor across the charge battery alters that weird form of electricity to a normal form of DC. Listen to John Bedini talk about it. I recall that he has a video on it.
A good test but the multi tester will not correctly measure the voltage spikes from the collapsing magnetic field. To do that an oscilloscope with a a high voltage probe is required.
I wonder how much extra charge you get, if you use this with a solar panel as your supply voltage, then parallel the solar panel voltage into a charge controller, plus feed the charging side of the bedini motor into the solar charge controller to see what the increased charging wattage is, when using the bedini motor.
BEMF spikes can reach a thousand volts. I wouldn't hook up the meter directly into it without a load. Oscilloscopes will see these high voltage spikes but average meters can't. There's a risk of burning your meter especially when the coils become large enough to reach 1-2k volt spikes. It does charge the secondary battery, but it takes a while. This is because BEMF spikes are mostly voltage with very little current. Plus, Each spike is only 50% of the energy spent to energize the coil. I built a couple of these hoping to achieve overunity but it failed for obvious reasons, but I did learn a lot. If you want to increase the efficiency of your coil, use an iron pipe as the core (not a solid iron core).
gconol Very interesting information and thanks for the comment. I am just a rookie with this stuff but I do like to experiment with it. It was definitely a fun little project.
Great job sir! Please what is the ohms resistance of ur primary coil and secondary coil . Mine is going on now but the source battery discharge in minutes and output is below 4v dc
Thanks! I don't know what the ohms resistance is of the coils. I built this device many years ago. I left a link in the video description of the source I used to build the motor. Maybe you can find the information you are looking for there.
Good video ;) And that does not look like a iron core, more like a thick copper stranded hollowed piece of shit core... And I'm impressed that it worked so well :) Well done!
From what I remember watching on videos of coil construction, it called for a bundle of TIG welding filler rods and where I work we have a lot of electrical steel . I was wondering if a core made of that steel would work better than lousy welding rods. Wondered why he didn't use something like that in the first place?
I would be interested to measure the current going out of the supply battery and the current going into the other ,is this not simply similar to using a step up module ?
Hello, Thank you for your work my friend ! This is great to have people trying to find new ways to create energy ! I have some questions/remarks : To me, the fact that it produces 14V out of 12 is not so much a conclusion that it creates energy. It is what transformers do. They change voltage, but energy is conserved (or diminished). So voltage without current does not mean anything with regards to create energy. Don't you think ? The fact that it can charge a battery and also make the motor run, only enables us to say that energy from first battery goes into the motir, and also creates 14V (out of a transformer effect due to the inductors) which enable to charge the second battery. The interesting thing would be to figure out the rate of charging of the second battery, and the rate of discharge of the first. Put another way, to calculate the COP and the efficiency of the whole system. Do you have any way to do that ? I don't see anybody performing measirement of energy, in order to compute a COP efficiency coefficient. Because Free energy is all about over-unity ! I have a hard time finding proof that people are creating over-unity (or at least, a great efficiency motor). THank you my friend ! Keep on :)
I don't have an answer to your question. I just built this motor as a hobby project. I enjoyed the build and it's fun to mess around with. I don't have a way of measuring any of the charging and discharging data. I just like projects like this and don't know any of the technical aspects of the device. Thanks for your interest.
LiPo4 batteries will not need to be desulfated so that benefit will not work but it may slowly charge the battery. I have not tried it on any LiPo4 batteries and don't think I would. I really don't know how a LiPo4 battery BMS would react to this type of voltage input.
@@WannaBFree Can you give me a rough drawing of your bedini design. Of where your wires goes and everything because im building one exactly like yours.
@@Pabkojdim I used the Daftman SSG circuit on my bedini motor. Here is a link where you can find the diagram of the circuit. www.daftman.000a.biz/circuits.html On the top left of the first page you'll see "Bedini SSG Circuit" that's the one I used. Let me know if you were able to find it and have fun with the build.
Voltage must contain a current component or current must contain a voltage component. You can have voltage with a zero current component, and you can have current with a zero voltage component, but neither one of them can do work without either component being present. In other words, both components must be present to some degree. I can only explain it in terms of particles. I can't explain it in terms of wave potentials. I believe it has to do with electron spin. When the electron spin in one direction the result is voltage. When the electron spins in the other direction, the result is current. You need both types of electrons to product normal electricity, capable of doing real work.
If you are asking how much did the primary coil cost I really have no idea. I just used 1/8" welding rods for the core and then a spool of wire for the windings. I built this many years ago. I think the whole thing cost me around $60 to make but I don't remember for sure. Sorry but I don't understand what you are asking about the number of cables.
EMF - Electric Motive Force Bedini has been adamant that his motor/energizer does not work with the back EMF. In fact, that is one of the reasons why he's had such a difficult time getting his machine to go main stream. He also does not like it when people call it a generator either.
I built one and it ran about 4 month and I finally turned it off.. using two batteries one charging one running I to with a voltage switch the went from the lower battery too high battery... No problem
@@floyd2970Looks like you achieved COP of 1 and there is not fun in that so you turned it off. If you like to play real thing try Adams motor/generator. Must have drive coils with narrow core to minimise dragging. Back spike of drive coils with snoober use to drive production coils. To se timings and what is actually happening you need osilloscope. Pitty i bought Siglent 2 months ago and did not unpack it yet. You just can't see real picture with AVO metter because is frequency dependant. On higher speeds/frequency use shootky diodes. Cheers!
@@floyd2970 sounds like what I was thinking. If you set one up with robotic switch that would , separately from the system, automatically switch the batteries every day, you could put it away in a corner and like John said " run it till the bearings wear out. " The closest thing I can think of to a true perpetual motion machine. ( just for the heck of it )
Just found this about a week ago, with the cost of living crisis and all prices in general going up, You could run a 12V heater off of this am i right?
Not off the bedini mate there's very little current but you could run the heater off the battery then charge it back up again. To run a heater takes a load of amps 👍🏼
We are not shown enough of a picture of the real connections, nor are we show or given the details of what comprises the Red Wheel with the Ball Bearing in the center. Sorry, got to go to something real...
This guy missed something profound while the system is running at full speed. It is the changes of magnetic fields of the coil every time the magnet on the rotor passes the coil.
The wheel isn't supposed to be run under load. It's like an energy storage device coupled with a voltage booster. The spinning wheel acts to store kinetic energy. The coil system boosts the voltage in short pulses enough to drive small amounts of current into the charging battery. Great for lead acid batteries. Bad for lithium ion unless you have a super cap and a bridge rectifier. It will desulfur lead acid batteries because it has a pulsed back current that reverses polarity for a few miliseconds shorter than the original pulse.
John Bedini said you can Not swap the batteries. A different energy. However the primary battery does not need any charge in it,,,the system will run and perform with a dead primary battery! Really incredible
This is just impressive PERIOD. How can something so simple charge the battery ??? Mr. John Bedini must of been the cat's meow.
@@victoryfirst2878 A Bedini motor is a useless piece of junk.
In video I just watched, I thought I heard him say you could switch it ( make something to automatically switch out the batteries, that's the way I saw it ) , and run it till the bearings wear out .
That is something I thought of myself before seeing the video.
But then he also talks about it being different form of energy and it won't work.
( ?? )
The exciter works on a dead battery? I'm not really familiar with the Bedini device but that alone tells me this thing is taking advantage of parametric variation of the field storage coefficients, like a dead capacitor the dead battery will have at least some latent charge, oscillating that in the correct manner will vary either the inductance, capacitance, or resistance of the circuit with respect to time which is known to either synthesize or destroy power in the system. Steinmetz referred to this as Synchronous Parameter Variation.
Hope you incorporate this in your solar system.. you can stretch power out even more., 👍👍
This was super cool sir. Check out "air core vs iron core- they are all the same" by Paul Babcock ( friend and associate of John Bedini ). It's well worth your time sir. Thank you for uploading.
It's not the battery that's charging the battery it's the spike....the peak in the spike produces a different type of energy, it reads as a negative on the meter, this system requires patience and alot of understanding......try the shawnee circuit and throw out what you think you know....... It does work, you need to think in a different way.... Read all the info on this... Tesla made it work
Leave the negative hooked to the battery.
Take your positive lead of your meter and hook it to the collector side of the neon light and you can let the motor run
If you don't put a capacitor across the charge battery. The battery will charge the battery with a weird form of electricity because the source for that form of electricity is the coil, not the supply battery. The capacitor across the charge battery alters that weird form of electricity to a normal form of DC. Listen to John Bedini talk about it. I recall that he has a video on it.
If you could put extra coils around the wheel, what sort of output could you get then?
A good test but the multi tester will not correctly measure the voltage spikes from the collapsing magnetic field. To do that an oscilloscope with a a high voltage probe is required.
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Yes they can shock you. BTW I love the Daftman!
I wonder how much extra charge you get, if you use this with a solar panel as your supply voltage, then parallel the solar panel voltage into a charge controller, plus feed the charging side of the bedini motor into the solar charge controller to see what the increased charging wattage is, when using the bedini motor.
BEMF spikes can reach a thousand volts. I wouldn't hook up the meter directly into it without a load. Oscilloscopes will see these high voltage spikes but average meters can't. There's a risk of burning your meter especially when the coils become large enough to reach 1-2k volt spikes.
It does charge the secondary battery, but it takes a while. This is because BEMF spikes are mostly voltage with very little current. Plus, Each spike is only 50% of the energy spent to energize the coil. I built a couple of these hoping to achieve overunity but it failed for obvious reasons, but I did learn a lot. If you want to increase the efficiency of your coil, use an iron pipe as the core (not a solid iron core).
gconol Very interesting information and thanks for the comment. I am just a rookie with this stuff but I do like to experiment with it. It was definitely a fun little project.
Great job sir! Please what is the ohms resistance of ur primary coil and secondary coil . Mine is going on now but the source battery discharge in minutes and output is below 4v dc
Thanks! I don't know what the ohms resistance is of the coils. I built this device many years ago. I left a link in the video description of the source I used to build the motor. Maybe you can find the information you are looking for there.
I built a 3 coil. it works. I put 1v in got 11v out.
Nice!
That`s a flashy t-shirt, for sure. Lol! It goes well with the multimeter.
I can only guess that each of the two wave potentials convey separate spin information and that these wave potentials combine. I don't know.
nice work try use a biflilar coil and gorget abaut magnets use a self oscilation , or frequency generator and you forget abaut neon bulb in cirkuit
Very good congratulations!!
Thank you! Cheers!
The neon bulb will actually light at 90 volts.
Great video
Glad you liked it
Generator nya sangat bagus👍
Good video ;) And that does not look like a iron core, more like a thick copper stranded hollowed piece of shit core... And I'm impressed that it worked so well :) Well done!
Thank you!
From what I remember watching on videos of coil construction, it called for a bundle of TIG welding filler rods and where I work we have a lot of electrical steel . I was wondering if a core made of that steel would work better than lousy welding rods.
Wondered why he didn't use something like that in the first place?
Sir can i ask the question? What arrange the magnet please? Thank you
Sorry it's been too long since I built this, I just don't remember. I believe all that matters is that the magnets are all the same orientation.
@@WannaBFree thanks sir
You're welcome
very good explanaition, good vid!
Thank you.
well done buddy
Thanks 👍
What turns of coil and wire number plz answer
Here is a link to all the information I used to build this Bedini Motor.
rpmgt.org/JoinBediniList.htm
Super 👍
I would be interested to measure the current going out of the supply battery and the current going into the other ,is this not simply similar to using a step up module ?
That would be interesting to know. I don't know enough about it to tell if it's like a step up module or not. Sorry I can't answer that for you.
Good vid mate! And after all this time, whats the final verdict? Does it REALLY charge multiple batteries off one battery?!
Thank you. I don't know about multiple but it will charge a 12V battery using a 12V battery as a power supply.
@@WannaBFree thankyou!
@@WannaBFree hello sir, how to make the coil(solenoid type ).. please share the circuit details
Here is a link to all the information I used to build this Bedini Motor.
rpmgt.org/JoinBediniList.htm
Nice job mate
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Hello,
Thank you for your work my friend ! This is great to have people trying to find new ways to create energy !
I have some questions/remarks :
To me, the fact that it produces 14V out of 12 is not so much a conclusion that it creates energy. It is what transformers do. They change voltage, but energy is conserved (or diminished).
So voltage without current does not mean anything with regards to create energy. Don't you think ?
The fact that it can charge a battery and also make the motor run, only enables us to say that energy from first battery goes into the motir, and also creates 14V (out of a transformer effect due to the inductors) which enable to charge the second battery.
The interesting thing would be to figure out the rate of charging of the second battery, and the rate of discharge of the first.
Put another way, to calculate the COP and the efficiency of the whole system.
Do you have any way to do that ?
I don't see anybody performing measirement of energy, in order to compute a COP efficiency coefficient. Because Free energy is all about over-unity !
I have a hard time finding proof that people are creating over-unity (or at least, a great efficiency motor).
THank you my friend !
Keep on :)
I don't have an answer to your question. I just built this motor as a hobby project. I enjoyed the build and it's fun to mess around with. I don't have a way of measuring any of the charging and discharging data. I just like projects like this and don't know any of the technical aspects of the device. Thanks for your interest.
Where does the wind come from and where does it end. Energy is like the wind
Do when we made it, the light only came out 4-5 volts.
Can bedini motor charger charge 12v into 4 batteries
I think it would but it would take a very long time
Curious after 9 yr are you still doing this?
I do from time to time but most of my batteries today are LiPo. This device is not necessary with the LiPo battery chemistry.
@@WannaBFree does it work on LiPo4 type batteries? I have a little solar setup w those type batteries and curious.
LiPo4 batteries will not need to be desulfated so that benefit will not work but it may slowly charge the battery. I have not tried it on any LiPo4 batteries and don't think I would. I really don't know how a LiPo4 battery BMS would react to this type of voltage input.
Made our mind the light it came out so little. Only 3 volts out
Nice to see
Awesome design!!!
Thank you 👍
@@WannaBFree
Can you give me a rough drawing of your bedini design. Of where your wires goes and everything because im building one exactly like yours.
@@Pabkojdim I used the Daftman SSG circuit on my bedini motor. Here is a link where you can find the diagram of the circuit. www.daftman.000a.biz/circuits.html
On the top left of the first page you'll see "Bedini SSG Circuit" that's the one I used. Let me know if you were able to find it and have fun with the build.
@@WannaBFree
Which side of the spool did you put towards the wheel is it the finish coil wings or the start of the coil windings?
If you could take a close up picture and send them to me. That would be nice. I just like your compact simple method.
I think the 2nd battery has smaller capacity, that why the voltage increase so fast
is there any schematic and how does the wire turns.and the parts no. so i cn try to make it..
+Doms cruz Yes, do an internet search for "Bedini Motor" and you will have many choices of info and schematics to build one yourself.
Voltage must contain a current component or current must contain a voltage component. You can have voltage with a zero current component, and you can have current with a zero voltage component, but neither one of them can do work without either component being present. In other words, both components must be present to some degree. I can only explain it in terms of particles. I can't explain it in terms of wave potentials. I believe it has to do with electron spin. When the electron spin in one direction the result is voltage. When the electron spins in the other direction, the result is current. You need both types of electrons to product normal electricity, capable of doing real work.
How much will the primary coil be? What is the number of cables?
If you are asking how much did the primary coil cost I really have no idea. I just used 1/8" welding rods for the core and then a spool of wire for the windings. I built this many years ago. I think the whole thing cost me around $60 to make but I don't remember for sure. Sorry but I don't understand what you are asking about the number of cables.
Help me a little?
I want to make
Here is a link with a lot of information about these motors - bedinimotors.blogspot.com/2010/06/bedini-ssg-circuit.html
How many patches to give
very good explaination of this " battercharger" without the pseudo scientific techno blabla! good vid
Thank you.
A simple coreless re emf charger is way more effective. Check out the improved ssg circuit on my channel.
I think this is a transister?
EMF - Electric Motive Force Bedini has been adamant that his motor/energizer does not work with the back EMF. In fact, that is one of the reasons why he's had such a difficult time getting his machine to go main stream. He also does not like it when people call it a generator either.
The truth can be painful to the bearer...
I built one and it ran about 4 month and I finally turned it off.. using two batteries one charging one running I to with a voltage switch the went from the lower battery too high battery... No problem
@@floyd2970Looks like you achieved COP of 1 and there is not fun in that so you turned it off. If you like to play real thing try Adams motor/generator. Must have drive coils with narrow core to minimise dragging. Back spike of drive coils with snoober use to drive production coils. To se timings and what is actually happening you need osilloscope. Pitty i bought Siglent 2 months ago and did not unpack it yet. You just can't see real picture with AVO metter because is frequency dependant. On higher speeds/frequency use shootky diodes. Cheers!
@@floyd2970 sounds like what I was thinking.
If you set one up with robotic switch that would , separately from the system, automatically switch the batteries every day, you could put it away in a corner and like John said " run it till the bearings wear out. "
The closest thing I can think of to a true perpetual motion machine.
( just for the heck of it )
It’s cool, but without knowing the amps I’m pretty sure all you’ve got here is a transformer with extra steps.
amps X volts = watts
mow many ampere you get from that coil dude ??
i confusing to think the coil... how you can make coil there input from batery and output to charge batery in one coil.. ?
I am not sure, I have not measured the amperage from this coil.
It's actually a double wound coil. Essentially it's two coils in one with two sets of wire on the same core.
ok... thanks for replying...
Your welcome :)
In Nature the back EMF is 15 times more power !!!
Just found this about a week ago, with the cost of living crisis and all prices in general going up, You could run a 12V heater off of this am i right?
Not sure, I've never tried that.
Not off the bedini mate there's very little current but you could run the heater off the battery then charge it back up again.
To run a heater takes a load of amps 👍🏼
We are not shown enough of a picture of the real connections, nor are we show or given the details of what comprises the Red Wheel with the Ball Bearing in the center. Sorry, got to go to something real...
It's ac current hold BOTH ends in of an the charging wire and I
It will shock you the tighter you hold the the More you will feel it lolo
LOL
This guy missed something profound while the system is running at full speed. It is the changes of magnetic fields of the coil every time the magnet on the rotor passes the coil.
Seeins as how you're feeding an already fully charged battery... I'm failing to see how the wheel is going to run under a load... Cool toy though...
Thanks Jack. It runs the same on a discharged battery as it did on a fully charged battery.
The wheel isn't supposed to be run under load. It's like an energy storage device coupled with a voltage booster. The spinning wheel acts to store kinetic energy. The coil system boosts the voltage in short pulses enough to drive small amounts of current into the charging battery. Great for lead acid batteries. Bad for lithium ion unless you have a super cap and a bridge rectifier. It will desulfur lead acid batteries because it has a pulsed back current that reverses polarity for a few miliseconds shorter than the original pulse.
@@brutusmaximus5380 how does the cap and bridge relate to lithium ion? Thanks
So the theory was to keep spinning the wheel using pulses, and use the the continuous motion to create continuous current?
Yes
AC, DC, Impulse per Tesla
So this is why more and more hobbyists have been disappearing lately...in their spare time.
Joule thief