People are being sold on the idea that they need thousands of dollars worth of technology and other options in order to take a truck off road. How foolish. A base model truck with the right set of tires has always done just fine for me. There's good reason why the Detroit News always refers to light duty trucks as being "profit rich" for the manufacturers. They keep adding baubles to trucks and the public keeps paying extra to get them.
And they lock the good options behind expensive packages. Front and rear lockers would be a great off roading benefit, but it's locked behind special packages.
Exactly. And in today’s world, people are fucking stupid. That’s why I dealerships. Also put market adjustments on their vehicles from 2000 bucks all the way up to 50,000 bucks because they know a stupid person is gonna come into the dealership and spend the money Lol. If people had a brain, they would be able to use it correctly, but they don’t.
I couldnt agree more. The biggest mistake I have ever made, was buy a new truck. I love my truck, dont get me wrong, but I dont use it the way I want to. I dont want to scratch it brake it. In the future, I would buy a clean 2500 diesel truck from an older gentlemen who used it to tow his 5th wheel to Florida.
I had a rebel for a few years and absolutely loved it. One of the most comfortable and yet still capable vehicles I’ve had. Zero complaints with it. Had to switch to a 2500 for towing reasons but the rebel will always have a soft spot in my heart
@@UvidCo nah, doesn’t really offer a whole lot more than how I ordered my current 2500. Only major did the hood and some cosmetic interior crap on the seats
Ram should have put the 6.4 SRT inside this GT. That alone would have helped a lot and would cost peanuts to do (relatively). That and a front locker would help separate the GT from the Rebel but then I'd be mad if the SRT was only available in the GT and not a plain big horn or whatever.
As someone who sold there 392 Challenger is currently in the market for a truck, I definitely wish they put that motor in the truck. Such a fantastic engine. Give me 25 on the highway in that Challenger
Good looking truck. Glad they didn't use that dial shifter for the transmission. As for it being "old", I think there is something to be said for having a proven, reliable platform (versus something new with the inevitable issues that pop up).
Bought my 22 Rebel GT in Sept. Was built in April , considered used w/ 2,500 miles. Billet silver no graphs. Fold out side rails ,bed cover. I added the spray in liner , rain guards. total 64.5k . Feel like that was a great deal. No back gate or Ram boxes though. 9 speaker Alpines are just fine. I LOVE IT .
Just traded in my 2019 rebel for a new 2023 rebel g/t and like you said the gear shifter and exhaust no red trim sold me….! Love it especially love the trade in value my 2019 still had! Great review guys !
The rebel gt is more on road that can off road it shows it goes & it tows & don't forget the power wagon though it doesn't tow as good or have great on road manners it does well off road so if you spend 85% or more on road rebel gt looks sounds and tows very good if you spend more than 20% off road power wagon might suite you better choices & options serve us well it's a great time for gas & diesel trucks across the board I think we are somewhat spoiled with so many great trucks on the market like never before & that's a very good thing
In terms of stying, I think the *_Rebel_* G/T loses out against the *_Laramie_* G/T But the Rebel naturally has the edge in rough terrain. If I had to pick one of them it'd be the Laramie because of the everyday-drivability and I'm pretty sure it tows more comfortably too. Love them both and I hope they continue to live on despite where the industry is going.
I have a '22 Rebel, not a GT and just love it! Power, comfort and off-road chops. If you have the extra bucks for the GT, go for it. I do like the shifter over the dial though. Great video guys! Bill from Linglestown, Pennsylvania.
Are you able to ride some easier Jeep trials? We are in Virginia and very interested in Rebel, but plan to do some overland trials in the west ( nothing serious though, not like Rubicon trail or the rock climbing thing in Moab, but some beginner to medium overland trails) thank you in advance.
@@SSL0707Star I've had my Rebel all over the mountains and trails in Pennsylvania. Snow, mud, rocks, etc. and never got stuck or broke down. It's comfortable, powerful and looks great to me. It is a big truck so keep that in mind for the trails you plan on running. Do your homework. Read, watch videos and learn how to drive off road or you might find yourself in quite a pickle. Have fun!
Just bought a 23 Rebel gt today. We looked at the Tremor top trim as well. The Ford was very well equipped, but the quality and interior or the Rebel were far superior.
I ordered a Bighorn with the Off-road package, 3:92 gears, and a few other options I wanted. A lot less money than the Rebel, and still as capable. All pickups are overpriced. There are huge mark ups and profits in the truck market. As for Ram, they need more choices for engine options. I am fine with a new six cylinder turbo, but they need to maintain the V8 option as Ford has done. Don't replace the Hemi, but offer more options.
Looks of a vehicle boil down to personal preference, I think this looks great, but others may not. I don't need to "Best" at one or two particular subjects, I need a truck that supports all of my demands. I have a 2020 Rebel, fully loaded, it goes faster than the posted speed limit, tows all of my toys with ease, and storage is a priority, and no truck beats a Ram with Ram Boxes for storing and hiding all the crap you carry. I'm not a guy to go out 4x4'ing, but as an outdoorsman, hunter and fisherman, I need to 4 wheel to most destinations, and my Rebel has yet to let me down.
Wouldn't the Rebel GT be more like Chevy's Trail Boss option? I think your right. Comparing it to the ZR2 and such. The Rebel isnt it. But the Trail Boss? 🤔
I really liked the discussion. Why didn't you compare GT to FX4 and other non-specialty off-road trucks? Would GT Rebel be a 'performance' off-road truck compared to FX4 with 3.5TT Eco or boost motor? Honestly tired of specialty off-roaders when many people need a daily work/family truck that can off-road.
Guys, I know this is about the 1500 but seriously, you guys are Mopar guys. You know the best offroad truck for most of North America isn't anything you've mentioned. It's the Power Wagon
I think you are way off when it comes to the rebel. Its direct competition is the treamor and the Trail Boss. The are a few tricks to the treamor ill give you that. However the suspension in the rebel is far superior to both. They also offer a full air suspension. Neither of the others do. Equally equipped though the treamor is stupidly exspensive. I currently own a new trail boss. Leaving the rebel to this truck was a huge mistake. Chevy and ford both took huge leaps towards there interior and still havent passed ram..
I just recently went from a Ram R/T to a Rebal. I love my Rebal. One of the main reasons I stayed with ram was the Ram Box. It defiantly tows alot better then my R/T. I don't know if I still would of looked at another manufacture if they had something like the ram box.
Nice truck but starting to show its age. I know a refresh is coming. And let me agree with you here my neighbor has one of these and he always reminds me how good it sounds when driving by my F159 ECOboost 😂
I cant wait for you guys to get a hold of the 2500 diesel Rebel. I think its a decal look, more than anything, but cant wait for you review and have you run the Hydro Line trail with it.
Lolololol $75,000 ok ok we get it, nice joke. Who the heck is paying these prices for a pickup truck or really any new vehicle that isn't something explicitly luxury or premium like MB, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, etc.
The same way Nissan didn’t change the Frontier in years, Dodge can do the same. They offered better technology and better interiors. I hope that the HEMI 5.7 still an option ❤
Your Dad said it well. But, I do think the Rebel competes with the Tremor, but instead of the ZR2, I would pit it against the LT Trailboss with the 5.3 or maybe with the 6.2. We're trying to decide on which route to take for my wife's next truck. A Tremor, Rebel but in our case a ZR2.
Great review, but base Rebel does not come up 4WD Auto by default (1:26), it's only available as an option with Clutch Pack based transfer cases. Base Transfer Case is Part-Time only same as with Tradesman. My '22 Rebel (non G/T) did not come with 4WD Auto.
You are absolutely right. Base Rebel has the part time, the robust 4WD system. Rebel GT's fancy clutch pack based system will get hot under pressure, you have to pull over and let the system cool down, that means you have no wheel drive 😂. Rebel GT does not come come with part time system, it's fancy system good for light offroading.
RAM got the Power Wagon to set above this Rebel. But it's an 2500. I think RAM is falling behind due to their high pricing now. Their lots are full and vehicle's aren't selling.
Does Ram state how much more the cold air intake and exhaust add? You had the standard 395/410 numbers. I put a K&N drop in air filter in my 2020 1500 and it felt like it had more pep.
$75,800 that's approaching TRX territory without the markups of course. They need a power wagon 1500 version with the new I6 hurricane to compete against the Tremor and ZR2
“ Repackaging what they already have”. Exactly. And that type of mentality sounds very familiar. Let’s say Toyota? And look at how successful Toyota is. Offroading is only for a tiny tiny demographic and is way overblown in my opinion. I think Stellantis knows that most truck buyers don’t actually do trucking type things in regards to work and other hard-core duties. Most buyers cannot afford these trucks even in their simplest design packages. This is a great truck for what you get.
Had a 2019 Rebel bought in July of 2018. Paid $52,000. 3 months ago I was offered $45,500. I took it! Don’t get me wrong I loved that truck. Did everything I ever needed it to do and looked sharp doing it. Take an annual 10 day fishing trip to the eastern sierras. Never got stuck and went way more places then any of the other guys! When I sold it I wanted the GT. Couldn’t get one. Ended up with a Ridgeline. Not a bad NART (Not A Real Truck). I miss my Rebel!
A buddy of mine told me that the GT models actually have more hp/torque because of the cold air intake, exhaust system and different tune. Is this true?
As an old hotrodder, it makes sense that those mods would increase HP and torque. There's probably some government reason RAM can't or won't advertise the gains you get with this option. Probably get fined or something for altering the "pollution" or some crap like that.
wonder if this one is going back to get a properly made tailgate installed. Nothing says “quality, long lasting, tough truck” like a tailgate recall… one of the most basic and most used components on a truck.
It's a nice truck but $$$. Save your money and get a ram classic, 3.92, factory skids, bilstein 5100 set 2.8", 1" rear spacers, upgraded upper control arms, duratrac lt275/65/70.
The fact he’s comparing the Rebel to a newer raptor and equivalent options says a lot about it because that is not the same price range. The TRX is the competitor to those trucks not the rebel
Ram believes its potential buyers are stupid. They thought a 'GT package' would fill that gap between the Rebel and the TRX. I caught on to this real quick and saw this as a weak response to Ford's Tremor and Chevy's ZR2. To me, the GT package should've also included the 392 like they have in the stupid and impractical Wrangler Unlimited and Mopar's 2in Fox lift kit. It would also help if they included new paint colors for the Rebel every now and then or a limited run of color options like gator clear coat that was available in the '20 Built to Serve Editions. The current color options are boring and now the '23 Rebel only has four available colors.
Rebel is barely more than an appearance package. They had something special with the Ram Runner, and don't make anything like it now. If they took the TRX and offered it with the base Hemi and 392 and priced them reasonably (maybe 50, 70, and 90 grand reasonably optioned) then they could more than competitive with Ford and Chevy. Oh, and also offer more leg room. Just another inch or two of track length on the driver seat and they'll have - hands down - the most comfortable truck for big guys. As it is, Chevy trounces them in leg room but falls way behind with limited hip and shoulder space. Ford, eh, they've never been any good at packaging, at least not in the past 20-30 years. If Toyota had kept V8 and diesels alive in the Tundra, they would be sniping all kinds of market share now.
You apparently forgot about Chevy's 5.3 that is now plagued with lifter issues, been around since the stone age, delivers no power, and is no more fuel efficient than the 5.7
I think the "Hemi Tick" is the most overblown discussion about hemi Ram trucks. The "Tick" effects less than 1% of all the hemi Rams produced and there is usually a story behind the story about the lifter failure. I've had 4 hemis and none of them ever ticked! A friend of mine is a fleet manager and his company uses Ram trucks HARD, never a tick problem.
People are being sold on the idea that they need thousands of dollars worth of technology and other options in order to take a truck off road. How foolish. A base model truck with the right set of tires has always done just fine for me. There's good reason why the Detroit News always refers to light duty trucks as being "profit rich" for the manufacturers. They keep adding baubles to trucks and the public keeps paying extra to get them.
Well said
Exactly.
And they lock the good options behind expensive packages. Front and rear lockers would be a great off roading benefit, but it's locked behind special packages.
Exactly. And in today’s world, people are fucking stupid. That’s why I dealerships. Also put market adjustments on their vehicles from 2000 bucks all the way up to 50,000 bucks because they know a stupid person is gonna come into the dealership and spend the money Lol. If people had a brain, they would be able to use it correctly, but they don’t.
I couldnt agree more. The biggest mistake I have ever made, was buy a new truck. I love my truck, dont get me wrong, but I dont use it the way I want to. I dont want to scratch it brake it.
In the future, I would buy a clean 2500 diesel truck from an older gentlemen who used it to tow his 5th wheel to Florida.
I had a rebel for a few years and absolutely loved it. One of the most comfortable and yet still capable vehicles I’ve had. Zero complaints with it. Had to switch to a 2500 for towing reasons but the rebel will always have a soft spot in my heart
Well it's time to get yourself the new Rebel 2500.
@@UvidCo nah, doesn’t really offer a whole lot more than how I ordered my current 2500. Only major did the hood and some cosmetic interior crap on the seats
Ram should have put the 6.4 SRT inside this GT. That alone would have helped a lot and would cost peanuts to do (relatively). That and a front locker would help separate the GT from the Rebel but then I'd be mad if the SRT was only available in the GT and not a plain big horn or whatever.
As someone who sold there 392 Challenger is currently in the market for a truck, I definitely wish they put that motor in the truck. Such a fantastic engine. Give me 25 on the highway in that Challenger
Good looking truck. Glad they didn't use that dial shifter for the transmission. As for it being "old", I think there is something to be said for having a proven, reliable platform (versus something new with the inevitable issues that pop up).
I agree, I really like the truck, and the real shifter completes the truck feel.
Bought my 22 Rebel GT in Sept. Was built in April , considered used w/ 2,500 miles. Billet silver no graphs. Fold out side rails ,bed cover. I added the spray in liner , rain guards. total 64.5k . Feel like that was a great deal. No back gate or Ram boxes though. 9 speaker Alpines are just fine. I LOVE IT .
I think the Rebel does compete against the Tremor. They are both off road designed trucks that can still tow and haul.
Rebel, Tremor and Trail Boss are comparable
I love my Rebel GT! The gear shifter and the exhaust note are what sold me. Looks and sounds fantastic.
Just traded in my 2019 rebel for a new 2023 rebel g/t and like you said the gear shifter and exhaust no red trim sold me….! Love it especially love the trade in value my 2019 still had! Great review guys !
@@TK-xf4bh just out of curiosity, what did you get for your trade in?
The rebel gt is more on road that can off road it shows it goes & it tows & don't forget the power wagon though it doesn't tow as good or have great on road manners it does well off road so if you spend 85% or more on road rebel gt looks sounds and tows very good if you spend more than 20% off road power wagon might suite you better choices & options serve us well it's a great time for gas & diesel trucks across the board I think we are somewhat spoiled with so many great trucks on the market like never before & that's a very good thing
In terms of stying, I think the *_Rebel_* G/T loses out against the *_Laramie_* G/T
But the Rebel naturally has the edge in rough terrain. If I had to pick one of them it'd be the Laramie because of the everyday-drivability and I'm pretty sure it tows more comfortably too.
Love them both and I hope they continue to live on despite where the industry is going.
I have a '22 Rebel, not a GT and just love it! Power, comfort and off-road chops. If you have the extra bucks for the GT, go for it. I do like the shifter over the dial though. Great video guys! Bill from Linglestown, Pennsylvania.
Are you able to ride some easier Jeep trials? We are in Virginia and very interested in Rebel, but plan to do some overland trials in the west ( nothing serious though, not like Rubicon trail or the rock climbing thing in Moab, but some beginner to medium overland trails) thank you in advance.
@@SSL0707Star I've had my Rebel all over the mountains and trails in Pennsylvania. Snow, mud, rocks, etc. and never got stuck or broke down. It's comfortable, powerful and looks great to me. It is a big truck so keep that in mind for the trails you plan on running. Do your homework. Read, watch videos and learn how to drive off road or you might find yourself in quite a pickle. Have fun!
Thank you for this Ram Rebel review.
Just bought a 23 Rebel gt today. We looked at the Tremor top trim as well. The Ford was very well equipped, but the quality and interior or the Rebel were far superior.
I ordered a Bighorn with the Off-road package, 3:92 gears, and a few other options I wanted. A lot less money than the Rebel, and still as capable. All pickups are overpriced. There are huge mark ups and profits in the truck market.
As for Ram, they need more choices for engine options. I am fine with a new six cylinder turbo, but they need to maintain the V8 option as Ford has done. Don't replace the Hemi, but offer more options.
Looks of a vehicle boil down to personal preference, I think this looks great, but others may not. I don't need to "Best" at one or two particular subjects, I need a truck that supports all of my demands. I have a 2020 Rebel, fully loaded, it goes faster than the posted speed limit, tows all of my toys with ease, and storage is a priority, and no truck beats a Ram with Ram Boxes for storing and hiding all the crap you carry. I'm not a guy to go out 4x4'ing, but as an outdoorsman, hunter and fisherman, I need to 4 wheel to most destinations, and my Rebel has yet to let me down.
That truck is badass!!!!
Wouldn't the Rebel GT be more like Chevy's Trail Boss option? I think your right. Comparing it to the ZR2 and such. The Rebel isnt it. But the Trail Boss? 🤔
I really liked the discussion. Why didn't you compare GT to FX4 and other non-specialty off-road trucks? Would GT Rebel be a 'performance' off-road truck compared to FX4 with 3.5TT Eco or boost motor? Honestly tired of specialty off-roaders when many people need a daily work/family truck that can off-road.
Guys, I know this is about the 1500 but seriously, you guys are Mopar guys. You know the best offroad truck for most of North America isn't anything you've mentioned. It's the Power Wagon
I think you are way off when it comes to the rebel. Its direct competition is the treamor and the Trail Boss. The are a few tricks to the treamor ill give you that. However the suspension in the rebel is far superior to both. They also offer a full air suspension. Neither of the others do. Equally equipped though the treamor is stupidly exspensive. I currently own a new trail boss. Leaving the rebel to this truck was a huge mistake. Chevy and ford both took huge leaps towards there interior and still havent passed ram..
Too bad they didn’t spend a few development dollars in the last 14 years on a cam and lifters that would last.
I just recently went from a Ram R/T to a Rebal. I love my Rebal. One of the main reasons I stayed with ram was the Ram Box. It defiantly tows alot better then my R/T. I don't know if I still would of looked at another manufacture if they had something like the ram box.
Nice truck but starting to show its age. I know a refresh is coming. And let me agree with you here my neighbor has one of these and he always reminds me how good it sounds when driving by my F159 ECOboost 😂
The hemi tick is in all but one truck of my family members ram pickups.
Dodge is also trying to cover a wide area. This truck does a lot of things well, not just a off roader
I cant wait for you guys to get a hold of the 2500 diesel Rebel. I think its a decal look, more than anything, but cant wait for you review and have you run the Hydro Line trail with it.
lmao 75K?!?! Also, wtf is a "cold air exhaust".
think they might've meant cat back exhaust.
Good catch. Ram actually calls it the "cold end exhaust." That's what I was going for, but cold air exhaust is what came out.
@@attananightshadow yep that’s the real term don’t know why Ram doesn’t just say it
It sucks that the quad cab is gone now.
Lolololol $75,000 ok ok we get it, nice joke. Who the heck is paying these prices for a pickup truck or really any new vehicle that isn't something explicitly luxury or premium like MB, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, etc.
Ram need to put a 6.4 in the trx
Love this idea. A more budget-friendly version of that monster would be great.
@@TruckKing yea it would be cheaper hopefully they up the power cause the truck a bit heavier than the Ford raptor
Insanely over priced
Its great to see daddy and the babies! On video.
fantastic looking truck... and that's where my admiration for the RAM brand ends.
Not as good looking as the Silverados (Trailboss).
Same, it's sharp and it would tempt me to own one, but I wouldn't bet on it with my money, 😆
Yup! Staying away from everything Chrysler/Fiat/whoever owns this now, has always done me well
GT seems like a good add on option
The same way Nissan didn’t change the Frontier in years, Dodge can do the same. They offered better technology and better interiors. I hope that the HEMI 5.7 still an option ❤
Isn't the Rebel designed more to compete with an FX4 or a Z71?
Rebel competes with trail boss and tremor. Ram backcountry competes with fx4 and z71
Holy crap I need to put a CAT exhaust on my Rebel.
Awesome truck. Reliable, stylish, and capable. Inflation is making the price seem more than we’re used to. I’d still go Ram. Power Wagon or Rebel.
Your Dad said it well. But, I do think the Rebel competes with the Tremor, but instead of the ZR2, I would pit it against the LT Trailboss with the 5.3 or maybe with the 6.2. We're trying to decide on which route to take for my wife's next truck. A Tremor, Rebel but in our case a ZR2.
Awesome truck but 75k??!!!
Great review, but base Rebel does not come up 4WD Auto by default (1:26), it's only available as an option with Clutch Pack based transfer cases. Base Transfer Case is Part-Time only same as with Tradesman. My '22 Rebel (non G/T) did not come with 4WD Auto.
You are absolutely right. Base Rebel has the part time, the robust 4WD system. Rebel GT's fancy clutch pack based system will get hot under pressure, you have to pull over and let the system cool down, that means you have no wheel drive 😂. Rebel GT does not come come with part time system, it's fancy system good for light offroading.
I'm curious as to what a cold air exhaust is?🤔
It’s another name for cat back system. I heard it’s made for mopar by Borla!
Seems like honestly it competes with the fx4 and z71 trucks. Looks good though.
84k wow. I would pick the silverado zr2 for that price. Or the Ford raptor
Well if a dealer is fair they will knock 8000 to 10k off that sticker that’s what they did on mine.
Why mention the ZR2 or Raptor against the Rebel when Ram has the TRX with the Helcat motor and loads more?
RAM got the Power Wagon to set above this Rebel. But it's an 2500. I think RAM is falling behind due to their high pricing now. Their lots are full and vehicle's aren't selling.
Great job guys 👏....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️ HAPPY WEDNESDAY
Does Ram state how much more the cold air intake and exhaust add? You had the standard 395/410 numbers. I put a K&N drop in air filter in my 2020 1500 and it felt like it had more pep.
Too much $$$.
Great truck. Had over 40 GMCs before switching to my rebel 2019. But try to get some trick accessories. Almost impossible
forgot about ventilated seats!
Wait till you get to test a Rivian R1T...... Just wait
$75,800 that's approaching TRX territory without the markups of course. They need a power wagon 1500 version with the new I6 hurricane to compete against the Tremor and ZR2
“ Repackaging what they already have”. Exactly. And that type of mentality sounds very familiar. Let’s say Toyota? And look at how successful Toyota is. Offroading is only for a tiny tiny demographic and is way overblown in my opinion. I think Stellantis knows that most truck buyers don’t actually do trucking type things in regards to work and other hard-core duties. Most buyers cannot afford these trucks even in their simplest design packages. This is a great truck for what you get.
$75k for a 1500 sized truck to take off-road, right…
Says the guy that can’t afford one anyway. Stop pissing on other people’s choices.
I thought the power wagon was the true off road ram truck.
The rebel is more of just a fun all around truck
Cold air exhaust.
What about the backcountry package on the 1500 big horn? Check it out.
I was wanting to go with a tremor F-150 but it's slowly getting to being more expensive than a rebel GT or other.
And dont forget Toyota gave us a V6 Tundra... LOL
They need a ram Dakota srt ❤🎉, with front and rear lockers 😮😂
Had a 2019 Rebel bought in July of 2018. Paid $52,000. 3 months ago I was offered $45,500. I took it! Don’t get me wrong I loved that truck. Did everything I ever needed it to do and looked sharp doing it. Take an annual 10 day fishing trip to the eastern sierras. Never got stuck and went way more places then any of the other guys! When I sold it I wanted the GT. Couldn’t get one. Ended up with a Ridgeline. Not a bad NART (Not A Real Truck). I miss my Rebel!
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Ridge line wtf? Lol
Why did you get a ridgeline 🤮
A NART !!! Never heard that one before! HA!
U went from the top of the food chain to the bottom 😂
A buddy of mine told me that the GT models actually have more hp/torque because of the cold air intake, exhaust system and different tune. Is this true?
As an old hotrodder, it makes sense that those mods would increase HP and torque. There's probably some government reason RAM can't or won't advertise the gains you get with this option. Probably get fined or something for altering the "pollution" or some crap like that.
wonder if this one is going back to get a properly made tailgate installed. Nothing says “quality, long lasting, tough truck” like a tailgate recall… one of the most basic and most used components on a truck.
It's a nice truck but $$$. Save your money and get a ram classic, 3.92, factory skids, bilstein 5100 set 2.8", 1" rear spacers, upgraded upper control arms, duratrac lt275/65/70.
The fact he’s comparing the Rebel to a newer raptor and equivalent options says a lot about it because that is not the same price range. The TRX is the competitor to those trucks not the rebel
84k is a lot of money. I'd take a Ford F150 Tremor without full leather instead
Ram believes its potential buyers are stupid. They thought a 'GT package' would fill that gap between the Rebel and the TRX. I caught on to this real quick and saw this as a weak response to Ford's Tremor and Chevy's ZR2. To me, the GT package should've also included the 392 like they have in the stupid and impractical Wrangler Unlimited and Mopar's 2in Fox lift kit. It would also help if they included new paint colors for the Rebel every now and then or a limited run of color options like gator clear coat that was available in the '20 Built to Serve Editions. The current color options are boring and now the '23 Rebel only has four available colors.
How about ram make a Dakota
It's coming very soon.
Is Stelantis interested in North America? , Looking at Ram and Jeep and their fixing issues i would say no .
I think that space will definitely be filled after their EV truck smashes the competition
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It actually takes only 5.5 seconds
w/out Steve... 😎🤓
Love your work guys, all the very best.
LOL
Rebel is barely more than an appearance package. They had something special with the Ram Runner, and don't make anything like it now. If they took the TRX and offered it with the base Hemi and 392 and priced them reasonably (maybe 50, 70, and 90 grand reasonably optioned) then they could more than competitive with Ford and Chevy. Oh, and also offer more leg room. Just another inch or two of track length on the driver seat and they'll have - hands down - the most comfortable truck for big guys. As it is, Chevy trounces them in leg room but falls way behind with limited hip and shoulder space. Ford, eh, they've never been any good at packaging, at least not in the past 20-30 years. If Toyota had kept V8 and diesels alive in the Tundra, they would be sniping all kinds of market share now.
Best part of Stellantis Ram is you get the notorious Hemi TICK as a bonus. Ram 5.7 is the most outdated slowest truck on the market.
You apparently forgot about Chevy's 5.3 that is now plagued with lifter issues, been around since the stone age, delivers no power, and is no more fuel efficient than the 5.7
I think the "Hemi Tick" is the most overblown discussion about hemi Ram trucks. The "Tick" effects less than 1% of all the hemi Rams produced and there is usually a story behind the story about the lifter failure. I've had 4 hemis and none of them ever ticked! A friend of mine is a fleet manager and his company uses Ram trucks HARD, never a tick problem.
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