None of the other witnesses LIED and had NO PROBLEMS with the police. Even Patrick Lumumba said: " One thing I could never understand is that Amanda has always said she was given a rough time by the police but I was named as the one who killed Meredith, the black third world African, AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS, I DO FIND THAT VERY STRANGE and I also find I amazing that she has never actually said sorry to me. " end of quote by Patrick Lumumba.
The other witnesses LEFT THE COUNTRY right after the murder, OR lawyered up.... A and R are the only ones who immediately collaborated with the police and answered all their questions...As to PL.. he loves to play the victim, and does it very well. Amanda's statements were video and audio recorded.. this could have proven her case that she was beaten... but guess what... THE AUDIO AND VIDEO tapes disappeared.. not suspicious at all. Also, Amanda and Raffaele had 3 COMPUTERS, the info contained in them could have exonerated them, and could have proven that A and M were good friends and hung out together all the time. Ergo, it's absurd to think A would kill M. But guess what? ALL THREE HARD DRIVES were destroyed by police. THREE. OOPS... Nothing suspicious about that at all. Nothing...
She's definitely guilty--she was found laughing and grinning in court but when the guilty verdict was stated-- all of a sudden she's NOW found crying her eyes out!!-- just look at her in certain documentaries--you'll see! D.D.
She can only muster tears her speaking about her experiences in prison. She shows more emotion talking about being verbally harassed than she does about her friend being stabbed to death.
5:10 - 5:20 she falls out of her made-up character (it typically happens due to pressure), but gets back quickly. you see how she is acting and remembering her skript here ( 5:16 )
Yes!!! I noticed the same thing.. and agree wholeheartedly that it was her realising she had gotten too carried away and had forgotten her script in the emotional excitement that she was clearly relishing in. The micro-expressions associating that process of realisation.. were bone chilling. HOW could anyone watch this bizarre interview and not sense her guilt? The problem is that we are collectively not encouraged or taught to connect with our gut instincts or simply how someone/something makes us feel (or doesn't) because if we were, most everyone would realise that she makes one feeling nothing... except suspicious uneasiness. I strongly suspect she is a highly intelligent murderous and sadistic narcicistic sociopath. Poor Meredith and her family 😔
Amazing, the only time she even pretends to cry is when she talks about a guy sexually harrassing her, amazing the rest of the time she can't stop smiling and laughing
its nervous laugh. i suspect she has asperger as myself. aspies behave different than neurotypical people. i also suspected her for being sociopath, but started to wonder after few interviews if maybe she is just autistic. there are arcticles about this thesis and im almost sure she is. in the book "death in perugia" journalist who spoke to Amanda, her family, Meredith and her friends, family, was at the crime scene etc. he wrote about her behaviour through the years and her personality. 99% autistic innocent acused just for "behaving differently". if u see it in this perspective - what they did to her is nothing else than political and media game based on harassing autistic person, socially disabled person. and if you see on youtube or else individuals with aspergers - you will see these patterns of mimic, behaviour, way of thinking, not neurotypical. its just being akward, not dangerous to society. and female asperger syndrome is very fresh topic for mainstream. in my county its a public topic since 2-3years. so in 2007, time of Meredith's tragedy, probably nobody wondered if a highly intelligent, but naive girl can have autism.
@@greenwhisper No, she is not autistic nor does she has any Aspergers, the spectrum of which you have to be autistic to the point of not feeling any empathy is pretty high. Usually, you can identify those people running around the street and humming, mumbling to themselves you know right away something is very wrong. Amanda is a great liar and manipulator, she knows exactly how to lead the conversation and search for words before answering. Autistic people aren't that careful in their responses, not so collected and composed. She is ASPD.
@@vkrgfan You REALLY need to go and educate yourself on what autism looks like in women. I can recommend Sarah Hendrickx. She has some very informative videos on RUclips.
Of course they used forensics, there are 351 incriminating samples of Knox and Sollecito that links them to this crime. It is clear that the Italian cops were NOT writing in English this confession, she TESTIFIED in court when she was asked if she was coerced she said that she wasn't. She NEVER complained to the U.S. personnel who went to see her in prison either. This story of her being coerced came up when Knox realized that she made a mistake to place herself at the scene of the crime.
The confession was inadmissible in court... in the criminal trial, because AK's human rights were violated. However, it was admissible in civil court, which was... guess what?... held in the SAME COURT at the SAME TIME.... Name ONE incriminating sample of Knox and Sollecito. JUST ONE.
@@adish7275That's probably either what she told them.. or her deeply concerning pathological state is genetic on both her maternal and paternal sides 🙄
No pity, no emotion. At some points she expressed a sense of satisfaction. Crying with no tears. When she really start crying, that's only because she stares at one point for a long time without blinking. Her facial micro-expression speaks more than a million words. She's definitely a psychopath. But, can anyone tell me what was her motive for killing Meredith Kercher?
They were two very opposite girls who'd spent loads of time together because they spoke English. It has been said by Lamumba that Knox was jealous of Meredith, that knox wanted attention all of the time, that Meredith had shown off some impressive bartending skills while drinking at his bar and Amanda was leering on enviously. Meredith didnt like Knox's frivilous behaviour- how she slept around and didnt bathe and also didnt pay rent or owed Meredith money- Rudy says Meredith was angry that night with Knox because of money. So Amanda, high on whatever, probably exploded for whatever reason and turned it from a sex game imposing rudy on her or whatever else to something violent. Also, it's barely mentioned Meredith started dating someone 2 wks before the murder who Amanda wanted. Amanda met Sollecito later on...but these are all motives.
according to many experts one tell tale sign of a liar in these situations ..is they tell the story in a very chronological way, and they go into all kinds of details that dont have anything to do with the situation really...she fits this perfectly...in an interrogation (not here) they will go back and ask her the same questions and break up the chronology and see if she describes things the same way, which they usually dont...also the absence of emotion and the smiling and nervous laugh look strange
A might have Asperger's... she was never diagnosed with it but experts in A syndrome say she has the clear markers. This explains her "odd" emotional reactions.
The last sentence of the Court of Cassation of Florence, the one that gave the freedom to two murderers, is signed by the president Gennaro Marasca and by the extensor Paolo Antonio Bruno: to note that both have been investigated. The former was for many years a politician, the councilor for the budget of the Bassolino council in Naples, and was investigated in connection with the financial collapse of the Municipality of Naples. The second was investigated for competition in mafia association by De Magistris during the Why Not investigation, and subsequently acquitted.
she is not guilty .I know us nurses wld almost cry when an iltalian or greek woman came thru labour and delivery bc the screaming and show of emotion re pain etc was so much more intense,than most ,ok ,so this girl is not dramatic etc does not make her a killer .Of course her handprints were on knife ,she lived there ,dishes were prob dirty so that means knives unwashed
To think she’s free sends chills through me. Shes should be in jail for life like Charles Manson was. Pathological liar 🤥 and I’m no body language or micro expression expert but it’s clear for me to see. She needs locked up in a mental hospital. Then the truth would come out.
GOD! Amanda, you look like some students when interrogated by their professor at school...trying to remember what they memorized.....afraid to do some "mistakes".... or to drop in a clanger?
"they were talking about a knife... that was impossible... that had Meredith's DNA on it... that was impossible" She knew it was impossible because she had cleaned that knife (or had disposed of that knife) very carefully, so there couldn't have been any DNA on any knife they could have found - it was impossible! She might be correct that it was impossible, because she really had cleaned the knife thoroughly, and the police were fabricating evidence.
It's all about herself and how awful it was for her and she shows more concern and emotion about herself than when she speaks about her murdered friend, when she talks about Meredith she is routine she says all the things she wants us to hear, but starts crying when talking about herself where is that emotion for Meredith. She seems to have a real problem with understanding things for someone who managed to live in Italy by herself she "doesn't understand what's happening" why??? she might not be able to believe what is happening but why doesn't she understand.... it sounds like an attempt to show us how "innocent" she was she didn't understand, we know she isn't stupid so why couldn't she "understand" what was happening to her and 20 is not a child she again wants to show her innocents almost as if child like to pull on our emotions and make us think of a child, The problem for her is if she really was innocent she wouldn't have to try so hard to make herself look it.
Do you do the same analysis with Rudy Guede? Or is his palm print in her blood, his DNA in her, on her, on her bra, on her clothes, her blood his DNA on her purse, bloody sneaker prints, admitted to being there while she bled out, went dancing and then took off for Germany, good enough?
You should see her how different she talk while in Italy in court like a poor little girl cause she didn’t talk like now like so interesting and with pause she keeps doing....
She completely overfocuses on mundane details, to divert. It's ridiculous. Anyone with one ounce of intuition knows she is an obvious liar. With so man narcissistic tendencies.
This is worse than a witch hunt. At least, in those days they had "tests" to prove their theories: they'd see if a woman floated or sank. It was a BS test, for obvious reasons, but at least it was "something." Today, we just look people in the eyes and can tell if they're innocent or guilty. Based on that, we give them freedom or 30 years.
Excuse me ? Sollecito had been in problems with the police for possession of cocaine and Knox in Seattle appeared at a police station accused of throwing stones at passing car's windscreens, the police were called. The story even appeared in the newspapers. Her mother dismisses it as a "prank" but Knox was still fined for her dangerous and weird behaviour. She also has a history of staging brake-ins to her room-mates before she travelled to Perugia.
O.J. got away with murder and Knox and Sollecito got away with murder too. It just shows that it doesn't matter if you lie and accuse an innocent man of the murder, it doesn't matter that they didn't have any alibies, it doesn't matter how many lies you say, so long as you have money and influence you can get away with murder. My heart goes out for the Kercher family who didn't get any justice at all.
"When you are innocent you think that freedom is right behind the corner every second because at every second they can realize it... AND TO HAVE THAT DOOR CLOSED ON YOU.. i mean..."- Yes, that's what Patrick Lumumba felt when she accused him.
She didn't accuse him. The cops did. In an interrogation that, guess what, WAS FILMED, but the tape mysteriously disappeared. As did the audio recording. In the dead of night, in a foreign country, in a language she barely spoke, with no lawyer, with about 17 cops yelling at him, screaming at her, probably smacking her around... yeah, her statements are completely reliable... especially since she KNEW that PL had an iron-clad alibi since he was at work in his own restaurant.. which she knew because she worked there. Also, after her "accusations" were made, the cops didn't even bother to check Lumumba's alibi. They went straight to PL's house and arrested him. Great police work... sure...Except when they later realized that Lumumba HAD an alibi.... and their whole theory collapsed... so they had to find another "black man"... the real culprit... Rudy Guede... and they restarted the dance, instead of admitting they were wrong...
There is zero evidence to convict this girl zero! DNA, prints, blood all over the place of the killer, yet not her's or her boyfriend's. Prints belong to some unknown guy, it's so bizarre. There is a shit load of evidence that belongs to one guy. That's the guilty one.
Michelle Stewart bless you! I couldn’t agree more. Rudy was the animal that raped and murdered that poor girl! The cops needed him because he was an informant (who already had a criminal history), so they put it all in Amanda and her bf. their prosecutors and justice system are a complete sham. They also wanted to make an example out of the American girl because they generally don’t like Americans.
You mean when the police told her they had 'hard evidence' that she was at the cottage and the interpreter told her she had amnesia and just didn't remember taking Patrick to the cottage? Gee, what about when the police chief declared the same day that "Initially the American gave a version of events we knew was not correct. She buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them in. They all participated but had different roles." So the police KNEW that Lumumba was involved? REALLY? From what? There was no DNA or any other trace of Lumumba in that cottage, but the police KNEW he was involved? How?
Yes, that's how we ascertain guilt.. we simply ask them questions, then if they act "weird," we put them in jail and throw away the key. Perfect logic.
Here are the steps that led to the confession Much has been reported about Amanda's interrogation in the media. All this is lies. The family, in a desperate attempt to explain why Amanda not only confessed to being at the cottage but also implicated an innocent, has slowly increased the number of hours for which Amanda was questioned. Most of the time you listen to a number in low adolescence, I think 13 hours is the official number of Knox, but some supporters of Amanda have claimed much higher numbers - 54 hours are the highest I've seen. In the Sunday Times Times Online story, the couple told how their daughter told them she was hit and threatened during her questions. In her trial a year later, Knox presented a very different account of late-night questions from policemen and interpreters who were present. The police also accused Knox of slander for similar statements made in court. But the reality is very different. Amanda actually confessed in less than two hours and her interrogation was at most a little over two hours. The family had to make the interrogation worse because otherwise nobody would have believed it was a false confession. There were twelve police officers and an interpreter present and all claim that Amanda was not abused. Amanda never asked for a lawyer * nor did she complain about abuse when she met the staff of the American consulate the day after her interrogation. Amanda has never filed a formal complaint against the police for this alleged abuse. * The same cannot be said of the police. Amanda is accused of criminal libel for lying about interrogation. * This process will take place in the distant future and, although it is unlikely that it will get the most, it will still have a maximum sentence of six years. His parents are also facing similar but less serious charges and face a maximum of three years. * In both cases the most probable result is a fine and less than a year. Obviously the truth is a defense against criminal defamation and the police have no worries about turning the spotlight on what happened that night because they know that Amanda is lying. The night starts at 10.40pm. Raffaele was expected to come to the police station and since Amanda lived in his place he decided to come. The police were calling Raffaele to confront him with the inconsistencies of his telephone archives. Comparing with the telephone records that showed that he called 911 after the police had already arrived, Raffaele quickly changed his version. His new story was that Amanda had left her company at 9:00 pm to go see friends and had only returned at 1 am wearing what could have been different clothing. To make it even more suspicious, Raffaele added that in the morning he asked for a plastic bag because he needed it for dirty clothes. * Amanda was in the public waiting room of the police station. He did some homework, called Filomena and asked if the arrangements would be kept once this was over, and she made the now famous cartwheel at the police station. We don't have exact timetables for these, but at some point between 11:30 pm and midnight Monica Napoleoni approached Amanda while Amanda took something from the vending machine. Napoleoni is the police chief of the murder section and if she approaches and leans against the coffee machine and asks "Who could kill her on earth?" While your boyfriend is an hour in his interrogation that should trigger alarm bells but Amanda would later tell her mother she had no idea she needed a lawyer. The decision to arrest Raffaele had been taken and Napoleoni wanted to move Amanda as far as possible from Raffaele's room so that he would not hear it, if he should cry out in protest. At this point the police knew that the couple was involved, but felt like they were protecting someone else. The police had annoyed the waiting room and heard a conversation in which they discussed a third person they had not named on November 4th. // Raffaele Sollecito: What are you thinking about? Amanda Knox: I don't want to be here. I want this to be over. I want to know who his friends are because he doesn't have many friends. He didn't leave the house much. He didn't talk much. // Napoleoni asked Amanda about Patrick's message. Amanda had previously claimed that she never responded, but the police knew she had. In combination with the intercepted conversation, the police imagined that the person Amanda and Raffaele could talk to was Patrick. Amanda was told that Raffaele no longer supported his alibi. That Raffaele had said that she had left at 9pm and had not returned before 1am. Amanda started hitting herself on the temples with both hands. Agent Rita Ficarra stated that "she started crying and wrapped her hands around her head, started shaking her" and then "she said: it was him ... Patrick killed her. It was the same behavior he had committed the night of the murder when the police had fingerprinted all those who had access to the house and again when the police had asked the girls to look at the knives to identify if they were missing. At this point Amanda told the first version of the story in which Raffaele and she were at home and Patrick killed Meredith. He was called Mignini and arrived around 1 am. Amanda told the same story again in her presence. Her statement was typed at 1:45 am and she was informed that she was no longer a witness, but that she would now be considered suspicious. * Mignini informed her that he would not ask her any questions until she had obtained a lawyer, but was free to make spontaneous statements. Amanda refused and was taken to a cell where they fed her. At @ amanda decided she wanted to make a spontaneous statement. Again she tells the same story. This was followed by a letter to the police in which he tried to retract part of what he said and it is very strange in the fact that he now says that his confession is true, but also that his alibi is true even if they are excluded to each other.
The "confessions" were audio and video recorded. (Mignini bragged about this endlessly). Guess what? BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO recordings disappeared. Nothing suspicious at all about that. Also, THREE HARD DRIVES that could have proven A and R's case were also DESTROYED BY POLICE. THREE. HARD. DRIVES. OOPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see. As far as Amanda's "confession" the European Court condemned Italy for violating A's rights in not providing her with a lawyer, etc. Furthermore, Amanda was interviewed: 1. A few days after the murder. A had not slept decently in days 2. Her friend M had died. Amanda was distraught. 3. She and R had stopped by the station. She wasn't supposed to be interviewed, but was. She was exhausted from the day and from recent events (I'm sure you're fresh as a rose around midnight....) 4. The interview was carried out in a language she barely spoke. 5. The interpreter, by her own admission, arrived at 12:30 AM. The interpreter herself made statements that should have disqualified her (she said her role was to "get the witness to confess." Nothing suspicious about this at all. 6. Amanda knew that PL had a solid alibi. He was at work in his restaurant. She knew this because he had told her not to come to work. 7. There were around 17 detectives interrogating her, back and forth, back and forth...again, standard procedure. 8. The cops misinterpreted the message "See you later" to mean "I, Amanda, and you Patrick will meet later tonight." This is diabolically insane. Almost comical. That's why they focused on Patrick, thinking he had participated in the murder. When they were finally proven wrong, they switched PL with Guede.. the real culprit... without admitting their guilt... Nothing ridiculous at all. Nothing disgusting, absurd and absolutely embarrassing about this whole thing. I could go on, but this suffices..
Kendra, sorry to tell you, but having "zero emotions" is not an evidence to blame someone to be a murder. This I guess is the lesson you learn in the first day if you want to become a detective.
In all her interviews she is often asked open ended questions where she rants on, this can be seen in this interview as well where she doesn't even remember the question asked. But she never spontaneously brings up Lumumba, Sollecito or Meredith. Yes I will definitely read her book, as soon as I finish "If I Did It" by OJ Simpson. You should read the court documents.
you guys who are nitpicking her need to understand something. it doesn't matter if she lies, or has bad character, or if she's crazy, etc. none of those things matter here. the BOTTOM LINE is that she's simply NOT capable of committing a cold blooded violent murder. She doesn't have it in her. It takes a certain type of person to be able to kill someone in cold blood by their own volition, someone cold hearted, ruthless, evil and sociopathic, possibly possessed. She simply doesn't have it in her. Anyone with street smarts and good people reading skills can see that. Plus one does not become a violent criminal overnight, she has zero history of violence. It's not who she is. She's very non-violent. It's obvious. It's not in her nature to commit cold blooded murder, despite any character faults. Donald Trump agreed. He said in an interview that he can size people up and read them well and has decades of experiences in reading others, and he can easily tell that she's not a cold blooded murderer. Look up his interview about her. This is the bottom line, despite whatever failings and moral defects she may have. Look at her closely. It's not in her to be violent, especially with zero history of violence in her background. People's characters usually reveal themselves early in life with clues. And there is no clue in her background that she could be a violent killer. You guys need to focus on that fact and stop reading so much into her body language.
Knox's statement: " One of the things I'm sure that definitely happened the night on which Meredith was murdered, after dinner I noticed there was blood on Raffaele's hand, but I was under the impression that it was blood from the fish and I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrick but I want to make very clear that what I said before that I confusedly remember Patrick killing Meredith."
A statement A made after hours of interrogation, after she hadn't slept for days, in a foreign country, late at night, in a language she barely spoke, surrounded by over a dozen investigators screaming at her (and hitting her), with no relative present, no lawyer, no interpreter, nobody. An interrogation that was INADMISSIBLE in criminal court for these reasons. An interrogation CONDEMNED by the European court as a violation of Amanda's human rights. An interrogation that was, however, ADMISSIBLE in the civil trial, which was held AT THE SAME TIME, in the same court. Nothing weird or odd about that at all. Additionally, the interpreter arrived around 12:30 AM, and stated that her job was to "get defendants to confess." Some interpreter. As a professional court interpreter myself, I can tell you that in a normal country, this interpreter would have been investigated and possibly arrested. Back to A's statements: Statements that were audio and video recorded, but, guess what, BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDINGS DISAPPEARED. They could have supported A's version of facts. Same for THREE Hard Drives that could have supported A's claim that she and M were very good friends (they contained hundreds of photographs of the two hanging out, having fun, etc.). Mysteriously, ALL THREE HARD DRIVES were destroyed by the police, while attempting to download the information contained therein. THREE HARD DRIVES DESTROYED BY POLICE. Nothing suspicious about that at all. Nothing indeed.
How did she know Meredith had her throat slit i.e. she admitted this to Meredith's friends & her flatmates when the police didn't even know the cause of death. Plus she admitted in the first trail no kitchen utensils had been taken too or from her house to her boyfriends, in order words, how did the victims (Meredith) & your DNA ned up on the exact same knife? She must have changed her story over 10 times about where she was on the night of the murder but her telephone & laptop records say otherwise. her blood along with the victim on taps, light switches, the bidet etc etc Plus the hard driver in hers & her boyfriend's laptop were removed from the actual laptop-bizarre. Eye witnesses saw her in the morning of 2nd Nov 2007 & the night before when she was supposed to be in bed. Honestly, it goes on & on & on & on & OJ Simpson style on & on....
But even if all the DNA evidence could be disproved, it still doesn't explain why oh why they kept changing their stories. Why would you do that if you are innocent? Why would you accuse an innocent man? Knox supporters, please explain this
I'm sorry for his family. This little voice in them who know that ... but who resign themselves to family love and the refusal to believe it. Look at her eyes, the expression of her face, her features, her way of giggling when she says "she was stabbed to death", she has the look of a murderer.
Wow! busted! Just for a split second (9:57/9:58) Amanda Knox lets her guard down and scans the room for a progress report. She describes her anguish at being molested in prison but still has the presence of mind to separate herself from the moment she is describing. She looks around as if to say "are you buying this shit..."
This poor girl was at the wrong place at the wrong time...ifeel bad for her , her character and behavior at the time didn't help but she was very very young and meredith wasn't really her friend, she was a roommate who she came to know when she moved there and knew her only for 6 weeks! Hysterical behavior would have been fake, not genuine!
How can she be addiment that it was impossible to have Meredith's DNA on that knife she somehow knows it was impossible for that knife not to be the murder weapon
@@adish7275 Actually from the case: "Knox's lawyers pointed out that no shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells, or DNA of Knox's were found on Kercher's body, clothes, handbag, or anywhere else in Kercher's bedroom. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the room that would have incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito. Knox's lawyers said it would have been impossible to selectively remove her traces, and emphasized that Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in Kercher's bedroom."
@@adish7275 Exactly, the evidence says that they found the DNA of a black guy all over the room and the victims body. That same guy said Amanda wasn't there. THAT IS EVIDENCE, not how someone blinks the eyes or smiles.
Why does she comment on Filomena getting her computer back? What has that got to do with anything? Why is she so obviously annoyed by that? That comment was made to divert the focus from her as a bad person and onto someone else. A completely derogatory comment if you ask me.
right from the start. laughing when she said "she was stabbed to death". another lie -she said all she thought about 48 hours after the murder was meredith and the murder. no she actualy thought about going shopping and staying in perugia ets. her letter is a disgusting reveal . btw the fact she is critisizing philomina for asking about her computer is dhelerious. philomina wasnt the one joking and making faces to her boyfriend at the police station right after the murder. philomina wasnt the one who said meredith always locks her door. and i vab go on and on.
When Knox saw all the blood she trampled into the small bathroom inadvertently why didn't she call the police immediately. It was the postal police that pushed Sollecito and Knox into calling the police much later.
Here is the text of the narrative written by Seattle Police Officer Jason Bender In The City of Seattle I was on uniformed patrol in the marked unit as 3 U5. At approx. 0028 hours, I responded to the report of a loud party in the listed location. The complainant relayed to dispatch that participants from the party were THROWING ROCKS at his house and at passing cars. The complainant requested officer not contact him. Upon arrival, I noted loud amplified music coming from the listed address.
Ok, then how did Meredith's blood get all over the bathroom? We know there are no footprints or DNA of Rudy in that bathroom. So did Meredith deposit her own blood all over that bathroom just before dying? Including the door frame? How did Sollecito's footprint get on the bath mat?
Es curioso casi o nada habla de la víctima como si trata de ser indiferente no expresa palabras como me duele, llore era una mujer llena de vida o algo así demasiado indiferente para mi gusto
No. She did not quit. Lumumba had made the decision to let her go and he had asked Meredith Kercher to replace Knox since instead of doing her job, Knox was more interested in flirting with the men at the club. Lumumba felt intimidated by the weird and strange men she was bringing to his club. Lumumba said this in his interview. Another thing is that Knox had deleted Patrick's message this thing about "see you later " is not true, as it has been wrongly reported. Knox brought his name.
1. why wouldn't you go to Raffis house? - hy stay at the Police when you could leave? 2. you could go to a hotel like everyone else would do - WTF did you expect to stay in the police HQ forever? - it is funny she makes it seem like SHE is so logical and WE are the idiots for not seeing her "logic" in that decision 3. I was there with Raffaele and HE WAS THERE ? - you mean he was THERE at the murder scene "there" not at the police HQ "there" 4. someone was murdered so classes do not seem important anymore - so I went to class on Monday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - r u serious !!!!! 5. all I could think about was "this" - "this" being what? - a murder? - gee I wonder why? - guilty conscience maybe? 6. I can't talk about the murder because it was my roommate and they said I couldn't discuss it - wow - good thing she follows orders 7. "hey prof look - if I get a call in class it is probs the police and i am not tying to be rude here but they want to chat about murder so I MIGHT have to leave - is that OK?" - the teacher must have went white as a sheet at that moment - "um yeah sure Amanda - no probs - your not being rude at all " 8. how could a roommate EVER be considered a suspect I mean how STUPID is that ? 9. OMG - she is UNBELIEVABLE - like how could those stupid lice think that just because I was her roommate I would know MOE about her than anyone else !!!! - I can;t go on here - its all too much to digest JODI ARIAS PERSONALITY 2.0
Only time she seems sad is when the knife came up. It must have triggered a memory. The lead police officer said she started freaking out and covering her hears when she was asked to identify the knife as if she was trying to stop the memory of screams. Her refusal to look at the body when discovered is interesting, and how she just showed up to the police station offering up info and pointing figures to a different person. Was she trying to control the direction investigation. Also, why would she think any of it would be her fault. Doesn’t make sense. Only thing that freed her was dna and contaminated site
What ? Guede IS in prison serving his sentence and Sollecito who is an Italian citizen has been convicted along with Knox. I think it is you, who is saying that because Knox is American some how she shouldn't be excluded. It is clear, that you have not seen the forensic evidence presented in court where the THREE individuals have been found to be guilty of this murder.
and? Dont you think she had chances to cry on this? Does she have to cry everytime to prove she is innocent? Please be serious. A murder investigation is based on FACTS/EVIDENCE...and not cheap unfounded phychoanalysis.
At 15:00 How can she say that her mother shouldve been so scared when she couldnt pick her up from the train station, and that she had been unreachable and knowing that her roommate had been murdered, how could her mother know that she, too, couldve been murdered? But she had called her mother at least twice on that day. Her mother definitely knew that Amanda had not been murdered, because she claimed that her mom advised her to go to the police when she asked her what she should do . . . . Im confused and she is rambling and lying so much that she is making no sense.
She doesn't show any sign or guilt. Her demeanor is very calm and relaxed, her words are very articulate where you can tell she is reflecting on memories. If she were rambling on fast than she would show inclination of being guilty. The Italian authorities were quick to judge her with only circumstantial evidence.
@@imateapot51 First of a premise note: the Bruno/Marasca verdict is contradictory. It is illogical to the point of being grotesque. We may see the long trail of inconsistencies later on. Now we shall note as a premise that its inconsistency is glaring on macroscopic points. What I can do is note those things are that stated clearly as proven facts - and we shall distinguish between those findings pointed out as certain in the ruling, and what instead is considered not proven or not in the ruling. One proven thing, called “incontrovertible” by the ruling, is that Meredith was physically killed by more than one person, while someone was holding her tight. It says that this is not because of the previous Guede verdict, but because there “multiple evidences” of this that emerged also in the Knox-Sollecito trials. On pp. 25-26 explains that it would be impossible for a single person to commit the murder, because of the mechanical action needed. So it is absolutely proven that Meredith was NOT raped and killed by Rudy Guede, but instead she was raped and killed by multiple perpetrators. Think about this and absorb this information. Then, also: It calls the purported burglary a “staging” and points out that even thinking about a burglary would be illogical because of the peculiar dynamics of the murder; it also says Amanda Knox washed her hands of Meredith’s blood, and calls this an “eloquent proof”. (you may concede that Amanda Knox with Meredith’s blood on her hands is a particularly disturbing image to find in a verdict). On the other hand, the ruling does NOT say something like "Amanda Knox was not involved in the killing". And does not utter the word “impossible” at all. Quite the contrary: instead, the verdict recalls para 530.2, concludes that it is only not proven beyond a standard of reasonable doubt that Knox took “active part to the killing action”. (implication: but she might well have) Note: let’s repeat this, it does not say "she didn’t", neither calls this option “impossible”, even remotely. Quite on the contrary, it points out (p.49) that there are in fact only two options: either she took an active part to the killing, or she only tried to cancel the evidence subsequently in order to cover up a murderer. The ruling does not present a third option. There is no "innocent" option presented. Obviously, one might notice, the Supreme Court assessment that the proof of an “active participation” is “resisted” by the lack of DNA findings in the murder room, is clearly contradictory with the finding at pp.25-26 that the participation of multiple perpetrators is “incontrovertible”. Besides the detail that the Supreme Court cannot assess evidence and does not have access to evidence, this is just one of the glaring contradictions in the verdict. Another contradiction is with the trial papers: the assumption that a lack of DNA finding of a female subject (with no detectable Y-chromosome) in a context where the traces from another female profile is very abundant would be significant, is an assumption that contradicts the findings of the preliminary hearing (testimony of Stefanoni of Oct. 2008). Stefanoni did explain in fact that if small traces DNA of another female were present, they would not be detectable on Meredith’s body nor on items where the presence of her DNA is massive (because of statistical effects due to the amplification process Another few notes: The ruling does not say that Amanda’s presence in the cottage was “acclaimed” in the trial. The ruling says that her presence is a PROVEN FACT in the trial (albeit the English doctored translation published by the pro-Knox camp alters and falsifies the content in many passages). It calls her presence “certain” also in one other passage, it points out clearly that it is talking about the moment when Meredith was killed, that Knox even heard her scream, that she was aware of details of the murder before the police knew them, and that she knew Lumumba was innocent because she was there.
Amanda’s confession was at most grounds for calling Patrick in for questioning. . Like Amanda, Patrick’s interrogation tape was missing. Patrick returned the $10,500 false imprisonment award and fled to Poland. He learned not to mess with Perugia police.
when Rudy Guede speaks in interview he talks about Meredith as : "poor meredith" all the time. when Amanda talks about her FRIEND Meredith it's : "body" "roomate" "foot" "blood" and laughing when she said "she was stabbed to death". Amanda is weird all the time. if you include her lies... it's a lot.
@Jonathan Colatorti evidences are ok for me... i’ve read 500 pages police report, forensic report, autopsy report, crime scene photo, phone intercept, prison intercept, text message, phone transcript.... so in fact i really don’t need lessons
How would you know how she felt. It has been many years since the senseless murder of her friend by Guede. Amanda has probably gone through a whole range of emotions including grief. I see a very sad and weary woman who looks visibly aged beyond her years by her harrowing experiences of been wrongfully imprisoned and found guilty without any evidence whatsoever. I think she has shown great character and hopefully will be fully vindicated by the ECHR.
The only reason why Patrick Lumumba was arrested was because the convicted murderer Amanda Knox accused him as being the killer. Naturally, any innocent person put in prison has to by law receive a compensation which Patrick did receive and everyone sensible and logical can see who put him there. Yes, Knox put him there, on her SAY SO. When police is investigating a murder and a suspect gives false information to the police, the false info turns into a piece of evidence of guilt.
Nope. U R WRONG again. I'm not Italian and there are intelligent Americans who also acknowledge that Knox and Sollecito are guilty as charged. Hellman and Zanete were MISTAKEN hence their verdict was ANULLED. To reach to their conclusions they VIOLATED the code of criminal court procedure, IGNORED EVIDENCE AND USED FAULTY REASONING. YOU ARE NOT A JUDGE, HAVE NO EXPERTISE IN FORENSICS, WERE NOT PRESENT IN COURT, SO WHAT YOU THINK IS IRRELEVANT.-
This is the first time I've really seen her express trauma and remorse over the murder. I think because of what she went through in between the murder her arrest, imprisonment and release she had to switch to focussing on her own survival when she realised she was at the mercy of the police and prison system. She has maybe just detached from the horror of the murder because her own life was then impacted and consumed by the wrongful conviction.
It can also be a sign of trying to remember something. And she looks down for almost every question, even questions she would have no need to lie about it, eg talking about the kids in the prison. So that may just be her mannerism.
The Italian police were under intense pressure to solve the case because of the British media, so they coerced a statement from Knox by smacking her around and employing psychological torture techniques including keeping her awake and bombarding her with interrogation from different detectives every hour for 20 hours straight. This led to Knox implicating her boss. I think the police guided her towards implicating her boss bc they knew the DNA found in Meredith’s room matched an African male. Except they were wrong, it wasn’t the DNA of Knox’s boss, it was that of Rudy Gaede. Gaede fled to Germany and was eventually apprehended and convicted of the murder. If Knox wasn’t coerced into those statements, she would not have had all of this trouble. She was tried and convicted by the British media and charged by the incompetent Italian police and judicial system. When the prosecutor was informed that Knox and her bf’s DNA were NO WHERE in Meredith’s room or on Meredith exonerating them from the murder, instead of admitting he was wrong like a real man he came up with the craziest theory that knox and her bf “shouted instructions” to the killer from downstairs. Can you imagine how much of a psycho the prosecutor is? He was proven wrong by forensic evidence and made up another lie to implicate Knox and her bf.
Unfortunately for Sollecito experts showed how the measurements of the foot-print on bath-mat matched his perfectly well. Not only the big toe shape and size but also the plantar arch & the metatarsus. Read the court documents, the table with all the measurements of the right foot of Sollecito.The evidence presented is rock-solid.
They based their "evidence" on a photograph. A photograph. From which they made measurements. A photograph. Of course, they were totally refuted by Guede himself, who admitted that it was his print: "I took a towel from her bathroom, but in less than a minute it was all soaked. I took another, but it was no use. I left the house in shock. I was outside, but didn’t know where to go, seeing still all that blood. It was all so red. I thought of going home. I had wet trousers and tried to cover it with the sweatshirt. There were a lot of people in the street, in Piazza Grimana. There were some guys still playing basketball even though it was dark."
they needed her to take the attention off of Rudy who committed the crime but was an informant. who they had released a week before the murder. They knew right away who did it because of the rock through the window. He had a pattern of doing that to see if people were home. Interesting that they were able to try him separately and keep him out of the limelight. this was a burglary gone bad
You must prove your statement. All satanic theories of police informants and others must be proven with facts Otherwise, they are conjectures to distract from the real killers.
@@Gabriella5057 Read my other comments.... Guede climbed from the outer window, a rather banal thing to do for a young man. The judges stated that "Only Spiderman could have climbed up there." If you see what the climb was, you'd laugh for a week. Any 20-year old with minimal athletic ability can duplicate that feat. I used to do it all the time (climbing I mean, not robbing). Also, M's room was locked FROM THE INSIDE. There was NO evidence linking A/R to the crime. None. Which means, Rudy acted alone, and after the murder left back through the window. It was the same MO he used when burglarizing lawyer Paolo Brocchi's office on October 13 of the same year, about 2 weeks prior.
Remember she was 20, alone in a foreign country, overwhelmed... Imagine being at her place, at her age... I'd like people to show a bit of empathy from time to time...
" Meredith was the first victim in all this. I was the second, FOR WHAT SHE SAID, I lost my livelihood, my job, I have nothing. Amanda doesn't have a soul. To be evil you have to have a soul, Amanda doesn't. She is EMPTY; DEAD INSIDE. " - Patrick Lumumba, former boss of A. Knox at Le Chic Bar.
At this point she had some psychopathic and/or narcissistic traits that made her look very bad in media's and people's eyes since the begining. Of course that wouldn't mean anything by itself, she could have mind issues but not be a Monster and still have a regular and productive life in society. I do think tho, she knew more of what happened than she let the authorities know. She feels bad and scared for something envolving her to the whole story. What ever there is, I don't know. She is a different person today, Im 💯 sure she went through a lot of professional help from all different kinds to reach what she is, looks and sounds like today My veredict: Not sure about totaly innocent, but I don't think she killed her.
"she knew more of what happened than she let the authorities know. She feels bad and scared for something envolving her to the whole story. What ever there is, I don't know. " Exactly WHAT evidence do you base that on? Not that I expect an answer.
@@richardoliveira153 That's just an excuse for not providing any evidence. You didn't come to the conclusion that Knox knows more than she's telling and she's afraid to reveal it based on nothing. If you come to those conclusion based on 'body language', which is not considered a reliable indicator of deception, then please, don't ever sit on a jury.
@@mytrip6991 I didn't, and I think no one does, say that the vibes body language give us are evidence or Proof of anything. So I really don't know where you trying to go with this. Are you by any chance trying to tell me I shouldn't feel free to say what I think in a RUclips comment?
@@richardoliveira153 I'm trying to understand on what you're basing your opinion that she knows more than she's saying. But you seem strangely reluctant to say what you think the evidence of that is. So far, the only thing you said is her "body language" so that must be what you're basing it on. Therefore, your interpretation of her body language must be what you're basing her guilt on. If she weren't guilty of something to do with the murder, then how would she 'know more than she's saying"? You're free to express your opinion. I never said you weren't. I'm asking on what do you base that opinion. If you can't identify why you have that opinion, perhaps you need to reevaluate it.
And surely enough Patrick was freed, as he was REALLY innocent not JUST PRETENDING to be innocent. UNLIKE Knox & Sollicito, since no DNA of Patrick was found at the cottage and he had a rock solid alibi with many witnesses to back him up. In contrast, there is plenty of mixed blood of Knox with the victim's blood, which clotted together during the fight. Knox has NO alibi and has lied numerous times, yet her supporters are unable to see the glaring differences.
None of the other witnesses LIED and had NO PROBLEMS with the police. Even Patrick Lumumba said: " One thing I could never understand is that Amanda has always said she was given a rough time by the police but I was named as the one who killed Meredith, the black third world African, AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS, I DO FIND THAT VERY STRANGE and I also find I amazing that she has never actually said sorry to me. " end of quote by Patrick Lumumba.
No remorse for Patrick Lumumba and no 40,000Euros she owes him. decrepit womn. No apology for her accusations!
The other witnesses LEFT THE COUNTRY right after the murder, OR lawyered up.... A and R are the only ones who immediately collaborated with the police and answered all their questions...As to PL.. he loves to play the victim, and does it very well. Amanda's statements were video and audio recorded.. this could have proven her case that she was beaten... but guess what... THE AUDIO AND VIDEO tapes disappeared.. not suspicious at all.
Also, Amanda and Raffaele had 3 COMPUTERS, the info contained in them could have exonerated them, and could have proven that A and M were good friends and hung out together all the time. Ergo, it's absurd to think A would kill M. But guess what? ALL THREE HARD DRIVES were destroyed by police. THREE. OOPS... Nothing suspicious about that at all. Nothing...
She's definitely guilty--she was found laughing and grinning in court but when the guilty verdict was stated-- all of a sudden she's NOW found crying her eyes out!!-- just look at her in certain documentaries--you'll see! D.D.
She can only muster tears her speaking about her experiences in prison. She shows more emotion talking about being verbally harassed than she does about her friend being stabbed to death.
She’s pathetic. Most Americans can’t see it because they are too busy holding their guns and their bibles.
ketboard012 she hated Meredith.
She knew her for five weeks…
5:10 - 5:20 she falls out of her made-up character (it typically happens due to pressure), but gets back quickly. you see how she is acting and remembering her skript here ( 5:16 )
Yes!!! I noticed the same thing.. and agree wholeheartedly that it was her realising she had gotten too carried away and had forgotten her script in the emotional excitement that she was clearly relishing in. The micro-expressions associating that process of realisation.. were bone chilling. HOW could anyone watch this bizarre interview and not sense her guilt? The problem is that we are collectively not encouraged or taught to connect with our gut instincts or simply how someone/something makes us feel (or doesn't) because if we were, most everyone would realise that she makes one feeling nothing... except suspicious uneasiness. I strongly suspect she is a highly intelligent murderous and sadistic narcicistic sociopath. Poor Meredith and her family 😔
It is bone chilling.. and I really hope more people take the time to observe these spine tingling seconds. She is creepy and guilty ASF
She is so much more upset about herself and what she put put her own family through than her own dead roommate like wtf is wrong with this chick.
7:36 why would you want to hide, Amanda? Guilty much? Ashamed of what you did?
Amazing, the only time she even pretends to cry is when she talks about a guy sexually harrassing her, amazing the rest of the time she can't stop smiling and laughing
Dedicated victim-it's hopeless!
Pay Lumumba the 40,000Euros! Playing the victim again!
its nervous laugh. i suspect she has asperger as myself. aspies behave different than neurotypical people. i also suspected her for being sociopath, but started to wonder after few interviews if maybe she is just autistic. there are arcticles about this thesis and im almost sure she is. in the book "death in perugia" journalist who spoke to Amanda, her family, Meredith and her friends, family, was at the crime scene etc. he wrote about her behaviour through the years and her personality. 99% autistic innocent acused just for "behaving differently". if u see it in this perspective - what they did to her is nothing else than political and media game based on harassing autistic person, socially disabled person. and if you see on youtube or else individuals with aspergers - you will see these patterns of mimic, behaviour, way of thinking, not neurotypical. its just being akward, not dangerous to society. and female asperger syndrome is very fresh topic for mainstream. in my county its a public topic since 2-3years. so in 2007, time of Meredith's tragedy, probably nobody wondered if a highly intelligent, but naive girl can have autism.
@@greenwhisper No, she is not autistic nor does she has any Aspergers, the spectrum of which you have to be autistic to the point of not feeling any empathy is pretty high. Usually, you can identify those people running around the street and humming, mumbling to themselves you know right away something is very wrong. Amanda is a great liar and manipulator, she knows exactly how to lead the conversation and search for words before answering. Autistic people aren't that careful in their responses, not so collected and composed. She is ASPD.
@@vkrgfan You REALLY need to go and educate yourself on what autism looks like in women. I can recommend Sarah Hendrickx. She has some very informative videos on RUclips.
Of course they used forensics, there are 351 incriminating samples of Knox and Sollecito that links them to this crime. It is clear that the Italian cops were NOT writing in English this confession, she TESTIFIED in court when she was asked if she was coerced she said that she wasn't. She NEVER complained to the U.S. personnel who went to see her in prison either. This story of her being coerced came up when Knox realized that she made a mistake to place herself at the scene of the crime.
i remember watching a tv show were her parents said the interrogation lasted 14 hours and she was hit. that is a lie it lasted 2 hours.
The confession was inadmissible in court... in the criminal trial, because AK's human rights were violated. However, it was admissible in civil court, which was... guess what?... held in the SAME COURT at the SAME TIME....
Name ONE incriminating sample of Knox and Sollecito. JUST ONE.
@@adish7275That's probably either what she told them.. or her deeply concerning pathological state is genetic on both her maternal and paternal sides 🙄
No pity, no emotion. At some points she expressed a sense of satisfaction. Crying with no tears. When she really start crying, that's only because she stares at one point for a long time without blinking. Her facial micro-expression speaks more than a million words. She's definitely a psychopath.
But, can anyone tell me what was her motive for killing Meredith Kercher?
@@timetheory84 I didn't sad that she is a killer
They were two very opposite girls who'd spent loads of time together because they spoke English. It has been said by Lamumba that Knox was jealous of Meredith, that knox wanted attention all of the time, that Meredith had shown off some impressive bartending skills while drinking at his bar and Amanda was leering on enviously. Meredith didnt like Knox's frivilous behaviour- how she slept around and didnt bathe and also didnt pay rent or owed Meredith money- Rudy says Meredith was angry that night with Knox because of money. So Amanda, high on whatever, probably exploded for whatever reason and turned it from a sex game imposing rudy on her or whatever else to something violent. Also, it's barely mentioned Meredith started dating someone 2 wks before the murder who Amanda wanted. Amanda met Sollecito later on...but these are all motives.
Jalousie, c'est tout ! Hélas...
Pure jealousy...thats all...... Psychopaths don't need much..
You are also saying that the 46 judges that saw all the evidence have ZERO credibility.
46?!?!! Wow
She is trying to convince herself of her lies. It's more than obvious. If I was innocent I would be passionate and making eye contact
But she’s not you. Every person is different you cannot expect everyone to behave according to a default template. That’s ridiculous
Yea,she's putting on an act
I am trying so hard to believe this girl!! its just not happening for me …. I feel like she keeps thinking before she speaks!! She is just lying!!!
I find it interesting that females do not believe her once she is heard speaking.
according to many experts one tell tale sign of a liar in these situations ..is they tell the story in a very chronological way, and they go into all kinds of details that dont have anything to do with the situation really...she fits this perfectly...in an interrogation (not here) they will go back and ask her the same questions and break up the chronology and see if she describes things the same way, which they usually dont...also the absence of emotion and the smiling and nervous laugh look strange
Which 'experts?' Cite your sources.
A might have Asperger's... she was never diagnosed with it but experts in A syndrome say she has the clear markers. This explains her "odd" emotional reactions.
The last sentence of the Court of Cassation of Florence, the one that gave the freedom to two murderers, is signed by the president Gennaro Marasca and by the extensor Paolo Antonio Bruno: to note that both have been investigated. The former was for many years a politician, the councilor for the budget of the Bassolino council in Naples, and was investigated in connection with the financial collapse of the Municipality of Naples. The second was investigated for competition in mafia association by De Magistris during the Why Not investigation, and subsequently acquitted.
she is not guilty .I know us nurses wld almost cry when an iltalian or greek woman came thru labour and delivery bc the screaming and show of emotion re pain etc was so much more intense,than most ,ok ,so this girl is not dramatic etc does not make her a killer .Of course her handprints were on knife ,she lived there ,dishes were prob dirty so that means knives unwashed
Super creep out...she killed Meridith
Based on what evidence?
To think she’s free sends chills through me. Shes should be in jail for life like Charles Manson was. Pathological liar 🤥 and I’m no body language or micro expression expert but it’s clear for me to see. She needs locked up in a mental hospital. Then the truth would come out.
GOD! Amanda, you look like some students when interrogated by their professor at school...trying to remember what they memorized.....afraid to do some "mistakes".... or to drop in a clanger?
Of course she's afraid.
"they were talking about a knife... that was impossible... that had Meredith's DNA on it... that was impossible"
She knew it was impossible because she had cleaned that knife (or had disposed of that knife) very carefully, so there couldn't have been any DNA on any knife they could have found - it was impossible!
She might be correct that it was impossible, because she really had cleaned the knife thoroughly, and the police were fabricating evidence.
NO! Destiny, the ONLY ONE who was falsely accused is Patrick Lumumba.....in case...and by HER!
It's all about herself and how awful it was for her and she shows more concern and emotion about herself than when she speaks about her murdered friend, when she talks about Meredith she is routine she says all the things she wants us to hear, but starts crying when talking about herself where is that emotion for Meredith.
She seems to have a real problem with understanding things for someone who managed to live in Italy by herself she "doesn't understand what's happening" why??? she might not be able to believe what is happening but why doesn't she understand.... it sounds like an attempt to show us how "innocent" she was she didn't understand, we know she isn't stupid so why couldn't she "understand" what was happening to her and 20 is not a child she again wants to show her innocents almost as if child like to pull on our emotions and make us think of a child, The problem for her is if she really was innocent she wouldn't have to try so hard to make herself look it.
Do you do the same analysis with Rudy Guede? Or is his palm print in her blood, his DNA in her, on her, on her bra, on her clothes, her blood his DNA on her purse, bloody sneaker prints, admitted to being there while she bled out, went dancing and then took off for Germany, good enough?
You should see her how different she talk while in Italy in court like a poor little girl cause she didn’t talk like now like so interesting and with pause she keeps doing....
She completely overfocuses on mundane details, to divert. It's ridiculous. Anyone with one ounce of intuition knows she is an obvious liar. With so man narcissistic tendencies.
The laughing freaks me out
Something very strange about her. She acts very guilty, and talks and talks , all the while looking down.
This is worse than a witch hunt. At least, in those days they had "tests" to prove their theories: they'd see if a woman floated or sank. It was a BS test, for obvious reasons, but at least it was "something." Today, we just look people in the eyes and can tell if they're innocent or guilty. Based on that, we give them freedom or 30 years.
After all this years I suspect her to be autistic, like me.
Excuse me ? Sollecito had been in problems with the police for possession of cocaine and Knox in Seattle appeared at a police station accused of throwing stones at passing car's windscreens, the police were called. The story even appeared in the newspapers. Her mother dismisses it as a "prank" but Knox was still fined for her dangerous and weird behaviour. She also has a history of staging brake-ins to her room-mates before she travelled to Perugia.
Damn. Do you have any credible sources to link us with that??
amanda,you are a great actress,you must received an oscar award for grear acting, ha ha ha ha.
Cyrus Sebastian she’s a skillful liar. Bad actress.
O.J. got away with murder and Knox and Sollecito got away with murder too. It just shows that it doesn't matter if you lie and accuse an innocent man of the murder, it doesn't matter that they didn't have any alibies, it doesn't matter how many lies you say, so long as you have money and influence you can get away with murder. My heart goes out for the Kercher family who didn't get any justice at all.
Maria, how many people have you murdered and gotten away with it?
xcen1 What in the world kind of question is that?? LOL. That statement makes zero sense. Good God.
"When you are innocent you think that freedom is right behind the corner every second because at every second they can realize it... AND TO HAVE THAT DOOR CLOSED ON YOU.. i mean..."- Yes, that's what Patrick Lumumba felt when she accused him.
She usually says "I" and not "you" but here she knows she is guilty and that some people are falsely accused.
What did she do screw her
She didn't accuse him. The cops did. In an interrogation that, guess what, WAS FILMED, but the tape mysteriously disappeared. As did the audio recording. In the dead of night, in a foreign country, in a language she barely spoke, with no lawyer, with about 17 cops yelling at him, screaming at her, probably smacking her around... yeah, her statements are completely reliable... especially since she KNEW that PL had an iron-clad alibi since he was at work in his own restaurant.. which she knew because she worked there.
Also, after her "accusations" were made, the cops didn't even bother to check Lumumba's alibi. They went straight to PL's house and arrested him. Great police work... sure...Except when they later realized that Lumumba HAD an alibi.... and their whole theory collapsed... so they had to find another "black man"... the real culprit... Rudy Guede... and they restarted the dance, instead of admitting they were wrong...
There is zero evidence to convict this girl zero! DNA, prints, blood all over the place of the killer, yet not her's or her boyfriend's. Prints belong to some unknown guy, it's so bizarre. There is a shit load of evidence that belongs to one guy. That's the guilty one.
There was not a bit of her own DNA in her own room... now that is beyond strange!
Michelle Stewart bless you! I couldn’t agree more. Rudy was the animal that raped and murdered that poor girl! The cops needed him because he was an informant (who already had a criminal history), so they put it all in Amanda and her bf. their prosecutors and justice system are a complete sham. They also wanted to make an example out of the American girl because they generally don’t like Americans.
Knox postituted Sollecito's life as well-not only her life-Sollecito's life and Patric Lumumba's life!
The kitchen drama. Gee, what about blaming Patrick and screaming she could hear it and he did it?!
You mean when the police told her they had 'hard evidence' that she was at the cottage and the interpreter told her she had amnesia and just didn't remember taking Patrick to the cottage?
Gee, what about when the police chief declared the same day that "Initially the American gave a version of events we knew was not correct. She buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them in. They all participated but had different roles."
So the police KNEW that Lumumba was involved? REALLY? From what? There was no DNA or any other trace of Lumumba in that cottage, but the police KNEW he was involved? How?
Her own words 'someone was murdered' unbelievable how detached, careless, cold blood
She also said, "I felt responsible...................."
I love watching her . She is HILARIOUS because she thinks that she is s much better liar than she ACTUALLY is ! Quite child like .
she forgot the question ..like she is thinking about before she answer.. you should be in jail
Yes, that's how we ascertain guilt.. we simply ask them questions, then if they act "weird," we put them in jail and throw away the key. Perfect logic.
Guilters rattle on and on...something is wrong with their minds...sad.
Here are the steps that led to the confession
Much has been reported about Amanda's interrogation in the media. All this is lies. The family, in a desperate attempt to explain why Amanda not only confessed to being at the cottage but also implicated an innocent, has slowly increased the number of hours for which Amanda was questioned. Most of the time you listen to a number in low adolescence, I think 13 hours is the official number of Knox, but some supporters of Amanda have claimed much higher numbers - 54 hours are the highest I've seen.
In the Sunday Times Times Online story, the couple told how their daughter told them she was hit and threatened during her questions.
In her trial a year later, Knox presented a very different account of late-night questions from policemen and interpreters who were present. The police also accused Knox of slander for similar statements made in court.
But the reality is very different. Amanda actually confessed in less than two hours and her interrogation was at most a little over two hours. The family had to make the interrogation worse because otherwise nobody would have believed it was a false confession.
There were twelve police officers and an interpreter present and all claim that Amanda was not abused. Amanda never asked for a lawyer * nor did she complain about abuse when she met the staff of the American consulate the day after her interrogation. Amanda has never filed a formal complaint against the police for this alleged abuse. * The same cannot be said of the police. Amanda is accused of criminal libel for lying about interrogation. * This process will take place in the distant future and, although it is unlikely that it will get the most, it will still have a maximum sentence of six years. His parents are also facing similar but less serious charges and face a maximum of three years. * In both cases the most probable result is a fine and less than a year. Obviously the truth is a defense against criminal defamation and the police have no worries about turning the spotlight on what happened that night because they know that Amanda is lying.
The night starts at 10.40pm. Raffaele was expected to come to the police station and since Amanda lived in his place he decided to come. The police were calling Raffaele to confront him with the inconsistencies of his telephone archives. Comparing with the telephone records that showed that he called 911 after the police had already arrived, Raffaele quickly changed his version. His new story was that Amanda had left her company at 9:00 pm to go see friends and had only returned at 1 am wearing what could have been different clothing. To make it even more suspicious, Raffaele added that in the morning he asked for a plastic bag because he needed it for dirty clothes. *
Amanda was in the public waiting room of the police station. He did some homework, called Filomena and asked if the arrangements would be kept once this was over, and she made the now famous cartwheel at the police station. We don't have exact timetables for these, but at some point between 11:30 pm and midnight Monica Napoleoni approached Amanda while Amanda took something from the vending machine.
Napoleoni is the police chief of the murder section and if she approaches and leans against the coffee machine and asks "Who could kill her on earth?" While your boyfriend is an hour in his interrogation that should trigger alarm bells but Amanda would later tell her mother she had no idea she needed a lawyer. The decision to arrest Raffaele had been taken and Napoleoni wanted to move Amanda as far as possible from Raffaele's room so that he would not hear it, if he should cry out in protest.
At this point the police knew that the couple was involved, but felt like they were protecting someone else. The police had annoyed the waiting room and heard a conversation in which they discussed a third person they had not named on November 4th.
// Raffaele Sollecito: What are you thinking about?
Amanda Knox: I don't want to be here. I want this to be over. I want to know who his friends are because he doesn't have many friends. He didn't leave the house much. He didn't talk much.
//
Napoleoni asked Amanda about Patrick's message. Amanda had previously claimed that she never responded, but the police knew she had. In combination with the intercepted conversation, the police imagined that the person Amanda and Raffaele could talk to was Patrick.
Amanda was told that Raffaele no longer supported his alibi. That Raffaele had said that she had left at 9pm and had not returned before 1am. Amanda started hitting herself on the temples with both hands.
Agent Rita Ficarra stated that "she started crying and wrapped her hands around her head, started shaking her" and then "she said: it was him ... Patrick killed her.
It was the same behavior he had committed the night of the murder when the police had fingerprinted all those who had access to the house and again when the police had asked the girls to look at the knives to identify if they were missing. At this point Amanda told the first version of the story in which Raffaele and she were at home and Patrick killed Meredith.
He was called Mignini and arrived around 1 am. Amanda told the same story again in her presence. Her statement was typed at 1:45 am and she was informed that she was no longer a witness, but that she would now be considered suspicious. * Mignini informed her that he would not ask her any questions until she had obtained a lawyer, but was free to make spontaneous statements. Amanda refused and was taken to a cell where they fed her. At @ amanda decided she wanted to make a spontaneous statement. Again she tells the same story. This was followed by a letter to the police in which he tried to retract part of what he said and it is very strange in the fact that he now says that his confession is true, but also that his alibi is true even if they are excluded to each other.
The "confessions" were audio and video recorded. (Mignini bragged about this endlessly). Guess what? BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO recordings disappeared. Nothing suspicious at all about that. Also, THREE HARD DRIVES that could have proven A and R's case were also DESTROYED BY POLICE. THREE. HARD. DRIVES. OOPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see.
As far as Amanda's "confession" the European Court condemned Italy for violating A's rights in not providing her with a lawyer, etc.
Furthermore, Amanda was interviewed:
1. A few days after the murder. A had not slept decently in days
2. Her friend M had died. Amanda was distraught.
3. She and R had stopped by the station. She wasn't supposed to be interviewed, but was. She was exhausted from the day and from recent events (I'm sure you're fresh as a rose around midnight....)
4. The interview was carried out in a language she barely spoke.
5. The interpreter, by her own admission, arrived at 12:30 AM. The interpreter herself made statements that should have disqualified her (she said her role was to "get the witness to confess." Nothing suspicious about this at all.
6. Amanda knew that PL had a solid alibi. He was at work in his restaurant. She knew this because he had told her not to come to work.
7. There were around 17 detectives interrogating her, back and forth, back and forth...again, standard procedure.
8. The cops misinterpreted the message "See you later" to mean "I, Amanda, and you Patrick will meet later tonight." This is diabolically insane. Almost comical. That's why they focused on Patrick, thinking he had participated in the murder. When they were finally proven wrong, they switched PL with Guede.. the real culprit... without admitting their guilt...
Nothing ridiculous at all. Nothing disgusting, absurd and absolutely embarrassing about this whole thing. I could go on, but this suffices..
Non so se è colpevole ma di certo non ha fatto altro che incriminare altri e comportarsi come una sociopatica.
... something’s not right about this girl....
She is Guilty. She has zero emotions and talks about herself and only herself.
Kendra, sorry to tell you, but having "zero emotions" is not an evidence to blame someone to be a murder. This I guess is the lesson you learn in the first day if you want to become a detective.
In all her interviews she is often asked open ended questions where she rants on, this can be seen in this interview as well where she doesn't even remember the question asked. But she never spontaneously brings up Lumumba, Sollecito or Meredith.
Yes I will definitely read her book, as soon as I finish "If I Did It" by OJ Simpson.
You should read the court documents.
I know. She also caused 9/11 and was in cahoots with ISIS. Read the court documents...
That's true, but the mixture was in seven places in the bathroom, including the door frame. Now that's quite the coinkydinky
The advantage of monologues is that you don't get objections.
And the Oscar goes to….
exactly what I was about to type
A person who is guilty does not give speeaches. They just answer questions and in short.
Think you meant "A person who is INNOCENT does not give speeches."
you guys who are nitpicking her need to understand something. it doesn't matter if she lies, or has bad character, or if she's crazy, etc. none of those things matter here. the BOTTOM LINE is that she's simply NOT capable of committing a cold blooded violent murder. She doesn't have it in her. It takes a certain type of person to be able to kill someone in cold blood by their own volition, someone cold hearted, ruthless, evil and sociopathic, possibly possessed. She simply doesn't have it in her. Anyone with street smarts and good people reading skills can see that. Plus one does not become a violent criminal overnight, she has zero history of violence. It's not who she is. She's very non-violent. It's obvious. It's not in her nature to commit cold blooded murder, despite any character faults. Donald Trump agreed. He said in an interview that he can size people up and read them well and has decades of experiences in reading others, and he can easily tell that she's not a cold blooded murderer. Look up his interview about her. This is the bottom line, despite whatever failings and moral defects she may have. Look at her closely. It's not in her to be violent, especially with zero history of violence in her background. People's characters usually reveal themselves early in life with clues. And there is no clue in her background that she could be a violent killer. You guys need to focus on that fact and stop reading so much into her body language.
Knox is so destructive -she messed up Sollecito after 7 days of drug taking.
On top of that, she also killed JFK.
Knox's statement: " One of the things I'm sure that definitely happened the night on which Meredith was murdered, after dinner I noticed there was blood on Raffaele's hand, but I was under the impression that it was blood from the fish and I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrick but I want to make very clear that what I said before that I confusedly remember Patrick killing Meredith."
A statement A made after hours of interrogation, after she hadn't slept for days, in a foreign country, late at night, in a language she barely spoke, surrounded by over a dozen investigators screaming at her (and hitting her), with no relative present, no lawyer, no interpreter, nobody. An interrogation that was INADMISSIBLE in criminal court for these reasons. An interrogation CONDEMNED by the European court as a violation of Amanda's human rights. An interrogation that was, however, ADMISSIBLE in the civil trial, which was held AT THE SAME TIME, in the same court. Nothing weird or odd about that at all.
Additionally, the interpreter arrived around 12:30 AM, and stated that her job was to "get defendants to confess." Some interpreter. As a professional court interpreter myself, I can tell you that in a normal country, this interpreter would have been investigated and possibly arrested.
Back to A's statements: Statements that were audio and video recorded, but, guess what, BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDINGS DISAPPEARED.
They could have supported A's version of facts.
Same for THREE Hard Drives that could have supported A's claim that she and M were very good friends (they contained hundreds of photographs of the two hanging out, having fun, etc.). Mysteriously, ALL THREE HARD DRIVES were destroyed by the police, while attempting to download the information contained therein.
THREE HARD DRIVES DESTROYED BY POLICE.
Nothing suspicious about that at all. Nothing indeed.
It's all about Knox!
How did she know Meredith had her throat slit i.e. she admitted this to Meredith's friends & her flatmates when the police didn't even know the cause of death. Plus she admitted in the first trail no kitchen utensils had been taken too or from her house to her boyfriends, in order words, how did the victims (Meredith) & your DNA ned up on the exact same knife? She must have changed her story over 10 times about where she was on the night of the murder but her telephone & laptop records say otherwise. her blood along with the victim on taps, light switches, the bidet etc etc Plus the hard driver in hers & her boyfriend's laptop were removed from the actual laptop-bizarre. Eye witnesses saw her in the morning of 2nd Nov 2007 & the night before when she was supposed to be in bed. Honestly, it goes on & on & on & on & OJ Simpson style on & on....
But even if all the DNA evidence could be disproved, it still doesn't explain why oh why they kept changing their stories. Why would you do that if you are innocent? Why would you accuse an innocent man? Knox supporters, please explain this
I'm sorry for his family. This little voice in them who know that ... but who resign themselves to family love and the refusal to believe it. Look at her eyes, the expression of her face, her features, her way of giggling when she says "she was stabbed to death", she has the look of a murderer.
Amanda keeps smiling like a real psychopath
I kept on thinking, who does she reminds me of... It's Onision (huge narcissist).
Wow! busted! Just for a split second (9:57/9:58) Amanda Knox lets her guard down and scans the room for a progress report. She describes her anguish at being molested in prison but still has the presence of mind to separate herself from the moment she is describing. She looks around as if to say "are you buying this shit..."
"She was stabbed to death.." Ha ha ha! She thinks this is funny?
Rachel thomas “Duper’s Delight”.
Of course, she is the victim. LOL Never a sincere moment of remorse for Meredith. An innocent person would be happy answer the questions from police.
That is NO indication. I always look away if I'm speaking and concentrating, and look at the listener only when I'm being spoken to. Not important!
She is very likely autistic.
This poor girl was at the wrong place at the wrong time...ifeel bad for her , her character and behavior at the time didn't help but she was very very young and meredith wasn't really her friend, she was a roommate who she came to know when she moved there and knew her only for 6 weeks! Hysterical behavior would have been fake, not genuine!
How can she be addiment that it was impossible to have Meredith's DNA on that knife she somehow knows it was impossible for that knife not to be the murder weapon
In this interview she seems a lot more genuine then all the others I watched. I think she is definitely innocent.
dont be fooled by how someone sound. read the actual case evidence and statment she gave.
@@adish7275 Actually from the case:
"Knox's lawyers pointed out that no shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells, or DNA of Knox's were found on Kercher's body, clothes, handbag, or anywhere else in Kercher's bedroom. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the room that would have incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito. Knox's lawyers said it would have been impossible to selectively remove her traces, and emphasized that Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in Kercher's bedroom."
@@zoekatherine9141 Ted Bundy
@@adish7275 Exactly, the evidence says that they found the DNA of a black guy all over the room and the victims body. That same guy said Amanda wasn't there. THAT IS EVIDENCE, not how someone blinks the eyes or smiles.
Big joker Knox all fun and let's find another place to live!
Doesn't she talk a load of nonsense? Go to jail and stay there.
The court said Patrick should not have been arrested and fined police $10,500 for doing so.
Why does she comment on Filomena getting her computer back? What has that got to do with anything? Why is she so obviously annoyed by that? That comment was made to divert the focus from her as a bad person and onto someone else. A completely derogatory comment if you ask me.
right from the start. laughing when she said "she was stabbed to death".
another lie -she said all she thought about 48 hours after the murder was meredith and the murder. no she actualy thought about going shopping and staying in perugia ets. her letter is a disgusting reveal .
btw the fact she is critisizing philomina for asking about her computer is dhelerious. philomina wasnt the one joking and making faces to her boyfriend at the police station right after the murder. philomina wasnt the one who said meredith always locks her door. and i vab go on and on.
When Knox saw all the blood she trampled into the small bathroom inadvertently why didn't she call the police immediately. It was the postal police that pushed Sollecito and Knox into calling the police much later.
@@dianamincher6479 LOL, nice try,
www.amandaknoxcase.net/raffaele-sollecito-112-call/
Here is the text of the narrative written by Seattle Police Officer Jason Bender
In The City of Seattle
I was on uniformed patrol in the marked unit as 3 U5. At approx. 0028 hours, I responded to the report of a loud party in the listed location. The complainant relayed to dispatch that participants from the party were THROWING ROCKS at his house and at passing cars. The complainant requested officer not contact him. Upon arrival, I noted loud amplified music coming from the listed address.
Ok, then how did Meredith's blood get all over the bathroom? We know there are no footprints or DNA of Rudy in that bathroom. So did Meredith deposit her own blood all over that bathroom just before dying? Including the door frame? How did Sollecito's footprint get on the bath mat?
Of course there was, Ruede even 💩in the toilet and let it sit there…
Es curioso casi o nada habla de la víctima como si trata de ser indiferente no expresa palabras como me duele, llore era una mujer llena de vida o algo así demasiado indiferente para mi gusto
How to get away with murder !!!!
No. She did not quit. Lumumba had made the decision to let her go and he had asked Meredith Kercher to replace Knox since instead of doing her job, Knox was more interested in flirting with the men at the club. Lumumba felt intimidated by the weird and strange men she was bringing to his club. Lumumba said this in his interview. Another thing is that Knox had deleted Patrick's message this thing about "see you later " is not true, as it has been wrongly reported. Knox brought his name.
yankee, these controversy of these story will not fade away,it will be with you, forever, ha ha ha ha.
1. why wouldn't you go to Raffis house? - hy stay at the Police when you could leave?
2. you could go to a hotel like everyone else would do - WTF did you expect to stay in the police HQ forever? - it is funny she makes it seem like SHE is so logical and WE are the idiots for not seeing her "logic" in that decision
3. I was there with Raffaele and HE WAS THERE ? - you mean he was THERE at the murder scene "there" not at the police HQ "there"
4. someone was murdered so classes do not seem important anymore - so I went to class on Monday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - r u serious !!!!!
5. all I could think about was "this" - "this" being what? - a murder? - gee I wonder why? - guilty conscience maybe?
6. I can't talk about the murder because it was my roommate and they said I couldn't discuss it - wow - good thing she follows orders
7. "hey prof look - if I get a call in class it is probs the police and i am not tying to be rude here but they want to chat about murder so I MIGHT have to leave - is that OK?" - the teacher must have went white as a sheet at that moment - "um yeah sure Amanda - no probs - your not being rude at all "
8. how could a roommate EVER be considered a suspect I mean how STUPID is that ?
9. OMG - she is UNBELIEVABLE - like how could those stupid lice think that just because I was her roommate I would know MOE about her than anyone else !!!! - I can;t go on here - its all too much to digest
JODI ARIAS PERSONALITY 2.0
Only time she seems sad is when the knife came up. It must have triggered a memory. The lead police officer said she started freaking out and covering her hears when she was asked to identify the knife as if she was trying to stop the memory of screams. Her refusal to look at the body when discovered is interesting, and how she just showed up to the police station offering up info and pointing figures to a different person. Was she trying to control the direction investigation. Also, why would she think any of it would be her fault. Doesn’t make sense. Only thing that freed her was dna and contaminated site
Guilty as sin.
What ? Guede IS in prison serving his sentence and Sollecito who is an Italian citizen has been convicted along with Knox. I think it is you, who is saying that because Knox is American some how she shouldn't be excluded. It is clear, that you have not seen the forensic evidence presented in court where the THREE individuals have been found to be guilty of this murder.
the 5:22 eyes freaks me out...
Um, why?
@@ASimoneau i see dangerous eyes
@@bredforslavery114 They don't shoot lasers. You're fine.
She describes herself perfectly at 14:20
I am a monster. I am a pscyopath. Yup. Can't trust anything she says. Sex and drug addict. Yup.
@@TheMagician86 At least she's honest about herself. lol
Just like Jodi Arias when in the policeinterrogation she starts with: "Let's just assume I did this.. Let's assume I am this ....." Exact same.
Where did the guy with the "dirty" gloves pick up Sollecito's DNA?
You cry dry....no tears.
and? Dont you think she had chances to cry on this? Does she have to cry everytime to prove she is innocent? Please be serious. A murder investigation is based on FACTS/EVIDENCE...and not cheap unfounded phychoanalysis.
she is guilty more then oj simpson was.
At 15:00 How can she say that her mother shouldve been so scared when she couldnt pick her up from the train station, and that she had been unreachable and knowing that her roommate had been murdered, how could her mother know that she, too, couldve been murdered? But she had called her mother at least twice on that day. Her mother definitely knew that Amanda had not been murdered, because she claimed that her mom advised her to go to the police when she asked her what she should do . . . . Im confused and she is rambling and lying so much that she is making no sense.
When was this interview conducted??
She doesn't show any sign or guilt. Her demeanor is very calm and relaxed, her words are very articulate where you can tell she is reflecting on memories. If she were rambling on fast than she would show inclination of being guilty. The Italian authorities were quick to judge her with only circumstantial evidence.
Not exactly, they were quick to find the perfect person to frame to distract away from their informant Rudy Guede,
She shows loads of guilt
@@imateapot51 First of a premise note: the Bruno/Marasca verdict is contradictory. It is illogical to the point of being grotesque. We may see the long trail of inconsistencies later on. Now we shall note as a premise that its inconsistency is glaring on macroscopic points. What I can do is note those things are that stated clearly as proven facts - and we shall distinguish between those findings pointed out as certain in the ruling, and what instead is considered not proven or not in the ruling.
One proven thing, called “incontrovertible” by the ruling, is that Meredith was physically killed by more than one person, while someone was holding her tight. It says that this is not because of the previous Guede verdict, but because there “multiple evidences” of this that emerged also in the Knox-Sollecito trials. On pp. 25-26 explains that it would be impossible for a single person to commit the murder, because of the mechanical action needed.
So it is absolutely proven that Meredith was NOT raped and killed by Rudy Guede, but instead she was raped and killed by multiple perpetrators.
Think about this and absorb this information.
Then, also:
It calls the purported burglary a “staging” and points out that even thinking about a burglary would be illogical because of the peculiar dynamics of the murder;
it also says Amanda Knox washed her hands of Meredith’s blood, and calls this an “eloquent proof”.
(you may concede that Amanda Knox with Meredith’s blood on her hands is a particularly disturbing image to find in a verdict).
On the other hand, the ruling does NOT say something like "Amanda Knox was not involved in the killing". And does not utter the word “impossible” at all. Quite the contrary: instead, the verdict recalls para 530.2, concludes that it is only not proven beyond a standard of reasonable doubt that Knox took “active part to the killing action”. (implication: but she might well have)
Note: let’s repeat this, it does not say "she didn’t", neither calls this option “impossible”, even remotely. Quite on the contrary, it points out (p.49) that there are in fact only two options: either she took an active part to the killing, or she only tried to cancel the evidence subsequently in order to cover up a murderer. The ruling does not present a third option. There is no "innocent" option presented.
Obviously, one might notice, the Supreme Court assessment that the proof of an “active participation” is “resisted” by the lack of DNA findings in the murder room, is clearly contradictory with the finding at pp.25-26 that the participation of multiple perpetrators is “incontrovertible”. Besides the detail that the Supreme Court cannot assess evidence and does not have access to evidence, this is just one of the glaring contradictions in the verdict.
Another contradiction is with the trial papers: the assumption that a lack of DNA finding of a female subject (with no detectable Y-chromosome) in a context where the traces from another female profile is very abundant would be significant, is an assumption that contradicts the findings of the preliminary hearing (testimony of Stefanoni of Oct. 2008). Stefanoni did explain in fact that if small traces DNA of another female were present, they would not be detectable on Meredith’s body nor on items where the presence of her DNA is massive (because of statistical effects due to the amplification process
Another few notes:
The ruling does not say that Amanda’s presence in the cottage was “acclaimed” in the trial. The ruling says that her presence is a PROVEN FACT in the trial (albeit the English doctored translation published by the pro-Knox camp alters and falsifies the content in many passages).
It calls her presence “certain” also in one other passage, it points out clearly that it is talking about the moment when Meredith was killed, that Knox even heard her scream, that she was aware of details of the murder before the police knew them, and that she knew Lumumba was innocent because she was there.
I agree. She is innocent. It’s clear as day except for idiots -
Amanda’s confession was at most grounds for calling Patrick in for questioning. . Like Amanda, Patrick’s interrogation tape was missing. Patrick returned the $10,500 false imprisonment award and fled to Poland. He learned not to mess with Perugia police.
when Rudy Guede speaks in interview he talks about Meredith as : "poor meredith" all the time. when Amanda talks about her FRIEND Meredith it's : "body" "roomate" "foot" "blood" and laughing when she said "she was stabbed to death". Amanda is weird all the time. if you include her lies... it's a lot.
@Jonathan Colatorti evidences are ok for me... i’ve read 500 pages police report, forensic report, autopsy report, crime scene photo, phone intercept, prison intercept, text message, phone transcript.... so in fact i really don’t need lessons
I reserve my empathy for those who speak the truth and who aren't unjustly persecuting people who are innocent.
She acts as if this is the first time in along time that she talks about this. Really digging hard for those memories..... Djeezzz
How would you know how she felt. It has been many years since the senseless murder of her friend by Guede. Amanda has probably gone through a whole range of emotions including grief. I see a very sad and weary woman who looks visibly aged beyond her years by her harrowing experiences of been wrongfully imprisoned and found guilty without any evidence whatsoever. I think she has shown great character and hopefully will be fully vindicated by the ECHR.
Guilty as sin!
@@whatchamacallit1young138 Wrong. She is totally innocent
The only reason why Patrick Lumumba was arrested was because the convicted murderer Amanda Knox accused him as being the killer. Naturally, any innocent person put in prison has to by law receive a compensation which Patrick did receive and everyone sensible and logical can see who put him there. Yes, Knox put him there, on her SAY SO. When police is investigating a murder and a suspect gives false information to the police, the false info turns into a piece of evidence of guilt.
Nope. U R WRONG again. I'm not Italian and there are intelligent Americans who also acknowledge that Knox and Sollecito are guilty as charged.
Hellman and Zanete were MISTAKEN hence their verdict was ANULLED. To reach to their conclusions they VIOLATED the code of criminal court procedure, IGNORED EVIDENCE AND USED FAULTY REASONING. YOU ARE NOT A JUDGE, HAVE NO EXPERTISE IN FORENSICS, WERE NOT PRESENT IN COURT, SO WHAT YOU THINK IS IRRELEVANT.-
This is the first time I've really seen her express trauma and remorse over the murder. I think because of what she went through in between the murder her arrest, imprisonment and release she had to switch to focussing on her own survival when she realised she was at the mercy of the police and prison system. She has maybe just detached from the horror of the murder because her own life was then impacted and consumed by the wrongful conviction.
This isn't remorse. She's a calculated sociopath or psychopath. She probably wishes she could do it again
@@brianna094 She has no remorse because she didn't do anything wrong. The rest of your comment is just ignorant nonsense.
she makes very very little eye contact, always looking down - that is suspicious to me
It can also be a sign of trying to remember something. And she looks down for almost every question, even questions she would have no need to lie about it, eg talking about the kids in the prison. So that may just be her mannerism.
She may be an actual actor!!
The Italian police were under intense pressure to solve the case because of the British media, so they coerced a statement from Knox by smacking her around and employing psychological torture techniques including keeping her awake and bombarding her with interrogation from different detectives every hour for 20 hours straight. This led to Knox implicating her boss. I think the police guided her towards implicating her boss bc they knew the DNA found in Meredith’s room matched an African male. Except they were wrong, it wasn’t the DNA of Knox’s boss, it was that of Rudy Gaede. Gaede fled to Germany and was eventually apprehended and convicted of the murder. If Knox wasn’t coerced into those statements, she would not have had all of this trouble. She was tried and convicted by the British media and charged by the incompetent Italian police and judicial system. When the prosecutor was informed that Knox and her bf’s DNA were NO WHERE in Meredith’s room or on Meredith exonerating them from the murder, instead of admitting he was wrong like a real man he came up with the craziest theory that knox and her bf “shouted instructions” to the killer from downstairs. Can you imagine how much of a psycho the prosecutor is? He was proven wrong by forensic evidence and made up another lie to implicate Knox and her bf.
Unfortunately for Sollecito experts showed how the measurements of the foot-print on bath-mat matched his perfectly well. Not only the big toe shape and size but also the plantar arch & the metatarsus. Read the court documents, the table with all the measurements of the right foot of Sollecito.The evidence presented is rock-solid.
They based their "evidence" on a photograph. A photograph. From which they made measurements. A photograph. Of course, they were totally refuted by Guede himself, who admitted that it was his print:
"I took a towel from her bathroom, but in less than a minute it was all soaked. I took another, but it was no use.
I left the house in shock. I was outside, but didn’t know where to go, seeing still all that blood. It was all so red. I thought of going home. I had wet trousers and tried to cover it with the sweatshirt. There were a lot of people in the street, in Piazza Grimana. There were some guys still playing basketball even though it was dark."
they needed her to take the attention off of Rudy who committed the crime but was an informant. who they had released a week before the murder. They knew right away who did it because of the rock through the window. He had a pattern of doing that to see if people were home. Interesting that they were able to try him separately and keep him out of the limelight. this was a burglary gone bad
You must prove your statement.
All satanic theories of police informants and others must be proven with facts
Otherwise, they are conjectures to distract from the real killers.
@@Gabriella5057 Read my other comments.... Guede climbed from the outer window, a rather banal thing to do for a young man. The judges stated that "Only Spiderman could have climbed up there." If you see what the climb was, you'd laugh for a week. Any 20-year old with minimal athletic ability can duplicate that feat. I used to do it all the time (climbing I mean, not robbing). Also, M's room was locked FROM THE INSIDE. There was NO evidence linking A/R to the crime. None. Which means, Rudy acted alone, and after the murder left back through the window. It was the same MO he used when burglarizing lawyer Paolo Brocchi's office on October 13 of the same year, about 2 weeks prior.
Remember she was 20, alone in a foreign country, overwhelmed... Imagine being at her place, at her age... I'd like people to show a bit of empathy from time to time...
" Meredith was the first victim in all this. I was the second, FOR WHAT SHE SAID, I lost my livelihood, my job, I have nothing. Amanda doesn't have a soul. To be evil you have to have a soul, Amanda doesn't. She is EMPTY; DEAD INSIDE. " - Patrick Lumumba, former boss of A. Knox at Le Chic Bar.
At this point she had some psychopathic and/or narcissistic traits that made her look very bad in media's and people's eyes since the begining. Of course that wouldn't mean anything by itself, she could have mind issues but not be a Monster and still have a regular and productive life in society. I do think tho, she knew more of what happened than she let the authorities know. She feels bad and scared for something envolving her to the whole story. What ever there is, I don't know. She is a different person today, Im 💯 sure she went through a lot of professional help from all different kinds to reach what she is, looks and sounds like today
My veredict: Not sure about totaly innocent, but I don't think she killed her.
"she knew more of what happened than she let the authorities know. She feels bad and scared for something envolving her to the whole story. What ever there is, I don't know. "
Exactly WHAT evidence do you base that on? Not that I expect an answer.
Evidence? For what? Im not a lawyer and this is not a court Room. Just my opinion about how she makes me feel through her body language.
@@richardoliveira153 That's just an excuse for not providing any evidence. You didn't come to the conclusion that Knox knows more than she's telling and she's afraid to reveal it based on nothing. If you come to those conclusion based on 'body language', which is not considered a reliable indicator of deception, then please, don't ever sit on a jury.
@@mytrip6991 I didn't, and I think no one does, say that the vibes body language give us are evidence or Proof of anything. So I really don't know where you trying to go with this. Are you by any chance trying to tell me I shouldn't feel free to say what I think in a RUclips comment?
@@richardoliveira153 I'm trying to understand on what you're basing your opinion that she knows more than she's saying. But you seem strangely reluctant to say what you think the evidence of that is. So far, the only thing you said is her "body language" so that must be what you're basing it on. Therefore, your interpretation of her body language must be what you're basing her guilt on. If she weren't guilty of something to do with the murder, then how would she 'know more than she's saying"?
You're free to express your opinion. I never said you weren't. I'm asking on what do you base that opinion. If you can't identify why you have that opinion, perhaps you need to reevaluate it.
Gullible or maybe a bit psychopathic themselves, as they seem to find her behaviour normal.
And surely enough Patrick was freed, as he was REALLY innocent not JUST PRETENDING to be innocent. UNLIKE Knox & Sollicito, since no DNA of Patrick was found at the cottage and he had a rock solid alibi with many witnesses to back him up. In contrast, there is plenty of mixed blood of Knox with the victim's blood, which clotted together during the fight. Knox has NO alibi and has lied numerous times, yet her supporters are unable to see the glaring differences.
Amanda's DNA mixed with Meredith's DNA is no problem, Amanda's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood, is a problem. Nobody is disputing Guede's DNA.
She's faking!
Hi! Do you remember where you read/saw those words of Lumumba? I need it for college ;)