Crazy, cool, interesting, "why not" or "what can I learn from that?" , I found no attribute or phrase to describe what I am thinking about that. I hope you will have so good experiences that you finish the tower. To reduce complexity I think three layers are enough (shadow, main, hill station), but it is up to you. One thing to remember please: all passengers driving with your trains around and around will become dizzy, so think of buying enough sick bags ;). Enjoy your experience!
Instead of having so much height, I think you may experiment with return loops in two levels; this can result in long diagonals with dead ends for stations, but with the option of having unlimited runs using one loop at the bottom and one at the top - and the diagonals may contain the main stations as well.
Hi Mauro, Thanks for the comments and ideas. I agree with you that building the height is a big challenge - one of the reasons I am wondering how far I get with this layout. My current thought is I will start with the bottom layer and make a return loop on top of that. Then we see what will happen. Enjoy ;-)
Nice idea, you can also use your bedroom to create more space ans the room above to make the tower much higher. I'm waiting for the next building video. Go on with your nice ideas.
Hi Eric, glad you liked the idea. Still usure if I will build it - we will see. Using the rest of my room is tempting, but I already have a hotel room full of model trains... Enjoy ;-)
Hi James, I expect the small radius to give me issues. However, unfortunately this is the space I have available. So part of the experiment is to figure out how I can make trains go realiable on thes narrow curves... Enjoy ;-)
Heh… it’s possible and doable but as you mentioned in N or Z scale. And we called “Mushroom” layout! If you insist on H0 then R1 & R2 curvature would be a “ killer “ so you end up with so limited engines & cars. Average 26 m wagons would definitely derail on your helixes….
Hi - yes R1/R2 is definitely a issue and will limit my train length. So part of the experiment will be how long trains can I reliably drive on a helix/spiral will these tight curves. Unfortunately, I do not have more space... Enjoy ;-)
Very good as always, I have never built a layout either as I recently approached this wonderful hobby, the difference is that I use Trix. In my opinion the problem is not having something permanent but a layout to be disassembled as needed, this allows you to make components of 120 cm. long by 140 cm. wide so that R3 curves can also be installed, where this is not possible you could try to build a narrow and long layout by observing the perimeter of the room, I mean ... why not try to be surrounded in the room by the railway layout using the perimeter of the room? I have seen layouts of 400 or 500 cm. unfold around with a depth of 100 cm. but with helicoids where you can get on and run the railway trains for 400 cm. in length, what do you think? Bravissimo come sempre, neanche io ho costruito mai un layout in quanto mi sono avvicinato da poco a questo splendido hobby, la differenza è che uso Trix. Secondo me il problema non è avere qualcosa di permanente ma un layout da smontare al bisogno, questo consente di fare componenti di 120 cm. di lunghezza per 140 cm. di larghezza di modo che si possano installare anche le curve R3, dove ciò non sia possibile si potrebbe provare a costruire un layout stretto e lungo osservando il perimetro della stanza, voglio dire...perchè non provare a farsi circondare nella stanza dal layout ferroviario utilizzando il perimetro della stanza? Ho visto layout di 400 o 500 cm. svolgersi attorno con una profondità di 100 cm. ma con elicoidali dove poter salire e far correre i convogli ferroviari per 400 cm. di lunghezza, che ne pensi?
Hi Lorenzo, Definitely would be nice with more space and I hope to have more in the future. Tempting to make a layout all around the room - however, given it is a hotel room I will limit myself to this space for now. If I have my own space I would unfold and use more space. This is an experiment, so I will see how long trains I can have... Enjoy ;-)
Very interesting video & comments. I’ve been planning with SCARM for a year now, and have come up with some interesting concepts that would fit on / under my 4 x 1.17 m space or into / around my former basement office.
Hi Tom, Glad you liked the video and I hope you will have fun making a plan for your layout. 4x1.17m is a big space - however, I must admit that I find my 1.2m just a little to narrow to make bigger curves and more interesting layout. However, with 1.2m it is important to be able to get all the way around the layout to be able to reach all areas of the layout. Looked at your latest video - many interesting trains and I like the steamers. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Hello, thanks for your response. I did realize that it is important to be able to reach the rear most parts of the track, as Murphy's law dictates that trains will derail in that section... In any case, before I start actually building a layout, I need to move more stuff out of the basement. Until then, I will enjoy running trains on my 2 layouts as they are.
@@ModelTrainFun I just need to use the ramps I bought to get to a 2nd level on the C-track layout to create a nice station & parade track, but need to take a bunch of trains off the layout to avoid any damage...
Maybe you could look at Chadwick Model Railway's channel, he shows a lot of usefull things regarding the helix to climb from one level to another. Several video cover the woodwork, slope gradient, train weight, locomotive wheel slip. Also, taking into account the traction power of the locomotive to go up, or the speed of a free falling car/wagon causing derailement if the coupling uncouples, he recommends to use the outer curve to go up, and the inner curve to go down because of the gradient slope.
Hi - Thanks for the pointer and ideas. I already follow Chadwick and liked that episode. He has a lot more space for his helix that I have on my table. Fortunately most Märklin locomotives perform better as they have traction tires and many are heavier. However, with all the spirals it will be a struggle. I have already designed the spirals such that the outer curve goes up. At no point is the up curve below R2 (which it was at least R3, but...) - even during the crossover in at the station in the middle layer. Enjoy ;-)
Marco Carretto anche io lo seguo da sempre dall'Italia ma con google chrome posso attivare la traduzione in quanto il ns. youtuber (tra l'altro molto bravo) da sempre pubblica in perfetto inglese, ti assicuro che altri addirittura molte volte non attivano neanche i sottotitoli, lui non l'ha mai fatto. Marco Carretto also I have always followed him from Italy but with google chrome I can activate the translation as the ns. youtuber (among other things very good) has always published in perfect English, I assure you that many times others do not even activate subtitles, he never did.
Ciao ti seguo dall’Italia e ho anch’io i treni Marklin. Sarebbe bello se attivassi i sottotitoli in italiano in tutti i tuoi video cosi riesco a capire meglio tutto quello che spieghi, anche quelli vecchi. Grazie e bravo. Marco
Marco Carretto anche io lo seguo da sempre dall'Italia ma con google chrome posso attivare la traduzione in quanto il ns. youtuber (tra l'altro molto bravo) da sempre pubblica in perfetto inglese, ti assicuro che altri addirittura molte volte non attivano neanche i sottotitoli, lui non l'ha mai fatto.
Ciao Marco, tutti i video sul mio canale RUclips hanno sottotitoli in inglese e puoi attivare la traduzione automatica in italiano su RUclips. Fare clic sul pulsante "CC" per attivare sottotitoli / titoli e fare clic su settings->subtitles / CC per scegliere la lingua. Spero che questo aiuti - divertiti ;-) Hi Marco, All videos on my RUclips channel have English subtitles and you can activate automatic translation to Italien on RUclips. Click on the "CC" button to activate sub/titles and click on settings->subtitles/CC to choose language. Hope this helps - enjoy ;-)
Crazy, cool, interesting, "why not" or "what can I learn from that?" , I found no attribute or phrase to describe what I am thinking about that. I hope you will have so good experiences that you finish the tower. To reduce complexity I think three layers are enough (shadow, main, hill station), but it is up to you. One thing to remember please: all passengers driving with your trains around and around will become dizzy, so think of buying enough sick bags ;). Enjoy your experience!
Hi Andreas, LOL - I can only agree with your statements. Sick bags are a definite must - must be standard issue in my passager cars. Enjoy ;-)
Living up to the channel name: Model Train Fun!
Hi, LOL - yes - thanks! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Cool idea, a lot of work involved. But I look forward to seeing it come together!
Hi David, You and me both! Still wondering if I will make it ;-) Enjoy!
Instead of having so much height, I think you may experiment with return loops in two levels; this can result in long diagonals with dead ends for stations, but with the option of having unlimited runs using one loop at the bottom and one at the top - and the diagonals may contain the main stations as well.
Hi Mauro, Thanks for the comments and ideas. I agree with you that building the height is a big challenge - one of the reasons I am wondering how far I get with this layout. My current thought is I will start with the bottom layer and make a return loop on top of that. Then we see what will happen. Enjoy ;-)
Cool idea I can't wait to see more😀
Hi Brian, Thanks - already purchased some materials. Let's see if I can get this project going. Enjoy ;-)
Nice idea, you can also use your bedroom to create more space ans the room above to make the tower much higher. I'm waiting for the next building video. Go on with your nice ideas.
Hi Eric, glad you liked the idea. Still usure if I will build it - we will see. Using the rest of my room is tempting, but I already have a hotel room full of model trains... Enjoy ;-)
Small radius curves and long trains = derailment ( shoestring )
Hi James, I expect the small radius to give me issues. However, unfortunately this is the space I have available. So part of the experiment is to figure out how I can make trains go realiable on thes narrow curves... Enjoy ;-)
Heh… it’s possible and doable but as you mentioned in N or Z scale. And we called “Mushroom” layout! If you insist on H0 then R1 & R2 curvature would be a “ killer “ so you end up with so limited engines & cars. Average 26 m wagons would definitely derail on your helixes….
Hi - yes R1/R2 is definitely a issue and will limit my train length. So part of the experiment will be how long trains can I reliably drive on a helix/spiral will these tight curves. Unfortunately, I do not have more space... Enjoy ;-)
Very good as always, I have never built a layout either as I recently approached this wonderful hobby, the difference is that I use Trix. In my opinion the problem is not having something permanent but a layout to be disassembled as needed, this allows you to make components of 120 cm. long by 140 cm. wide so that R3 curves can also be installed, where this is not possible you could try to build a narrow and long layout by observing the perimeter of the room, I mean ... why not try to be surrounded in the room by the railway layout using the perimeter of the room? I have seen layouts of 400 or 500 cm. unfold around with a depth of 100 cm. but with helicoids where you can get on and run the railway trains for 400 cm. in length, what do you think?
Bravissimo come sempre, neanche io ho costruito mai un layout in quanto mi sono avvicinato da poco a questo splendido hobby, la differenza è che uso Trix. Secondo me il problema non è avere qualcosa di permanente ma un layout da smontare al bisogno, questo consente di fare componenti di 120 cm. di lunghezza per 140 cm. di larghezza di modo che si possano installare anche le curve R3, dove ciò non sia possibile si potrebbe provare a costruire un layout stretto e lungo osservando il perimetro della stanza, voglio dire...perchè non provare a farsi circondare nella stanza dal layout ferroviario utilizzando il perimetro della stanza? Ho visto layout di 400 o 500 cm. svolgersi attorno con una profondità di 100 cm. ma con elicoidali dove poter salire e far correre i convogli ferroviari per 400 cm. di lunghezza, che ne pensi?
Hi Lorenzo, Definitely would be nice with more space and I hope to have more in the future. Tempting to make a layout all around the room - however, given it is a hotel room I will limit myself to this space for now. If I have my own space I would unfold and use more space. This is an experiment, so I will see how long trains I can have... Enjoy ;-)
Very interesting video & comments. I’ve been planning with SCARM for a year now, and have come up with some interesting concepts that would fit on / under my 4 x 1.17 m space or into / around my former basement office.
Hi Tom, Glad you liked the video and I hope you will have fun making a plan for your layout. 4x1.17m is a big space - however, I must admit that I find my 1.2m just a little to narrow to make bigger curves and more interesting layout. However, with 1.2m it is important to be able to get all the way around the layout to be able to reach all areas of the layout. Looked at your latest video - many interesting trains and I like the steamers. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Hello, thanks for your response. I did realize that it is important to be able to reach the rear most parts of the track, as Murphy's law dictates that trains will derail in that section...
In any case, before I start actually building a layout, I need to move more stuff out of the basement. Until then, I will enjoy running trains on my 2 layouts as they are.
@@tomsmaerklintrainlayout6742Most admit I have enjoyed just running trains for many years before even considering building something. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun I just need to use the ramps I bought to get to a 2nd level on the C-track layout to create a nice station & parade track, but need to take a bunch of trains off the layout to avoid any damage...
@@tomsmaerklintrainlayout6742 Sounds like a great idea ;-)
Maybe you could look at Chadwick Model Railway's channel, he shows a lot of usefull things regarding the helix to climb from one level to another. Several video cover the woodwork, slope gradient, train weight, locomotive wheel slip.
Also, taking into account the traction power of the locomotive to go up, or the speed of a free falling car/wagon causing derailement if the coupling uncouples, he recommends to use the outer curve to go up, and the inner curve to go down because of the gradient slope.
Hi - Thanks for the pointer and ideas. I already follow Chadwick and liked that episode. He has a lot more space for his helix that I have on my table. Fortunately most Märklin locomotives perform better as they have traction tires and many are heavier. However, with all the spirals it will be a struggle. I have already designed the spirals such that the outer curve goes up. At no point is the up curve below R2 (which it was at least R3, but...) - even during the crossover in at the station in the middle layer. Enjoy ;-)
Wel een fantastisch plan, maar of het uitvoerbaar is? In ieder geval, veel succes en ik blijf u volgen.
Hi Hans - thanks! Let see if I can make it. First time, so there will be many mistakes. Have fun with trains ;-)
Dat zou wel mooi zijn. Een flinke uitdaging, maar wel een die u kan uitvoeren. Veel succes.
@@hansvanderheijden153 Thanks - have fun ;-)
Marco Carretto anche io lo seguo da sempre dall'Italia ma con google chrome posso attivare la traduzione in quanto il ns. youtuber (tra l'altro molto bravo) da sempre pubblica in perfetto inglese, ti assicuro che altri addirittura molte volte non attivano neanche i sottotitoli, lui non l'ha mai fatto.
Marco Carretto also I have always followed him from Italy but with google chrome I can activate the translation as the ns. youtuber (among other things very good) has always published in perfect English, I assure you that many times others do not even activate subtitles, he never did.
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for explaining it to Marco. Enjoy ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun Excuse me for the intrusion
@@lorenzomarinelliclub413 Please do intrude - The more live in the discussions, the better. We can all learn from each other. Enjoy ;-)
Ciao ti seguo dall’Italia e ho anch’io i treni Marklin.
Sarebbe bello se attivassi i sottotitoli in italiano in tutti i tuoi video cosi riesco a capire meglio tutto quello che spieghi, anche quelli vecchi.
Grazie e bravo.
Marco
Marco Carretto anche io lo seguo da sempre dall'Italia ma con google chrome posso attivare la traduzione in quanto il ns. youtuber (tra l'altro molto bravo) da sempre pubblica in perfetto inglese, ti assicuro che altri addirittura molte volte non attivano neanche i sottotitoli, lui non l'ha mai fatto.
Ciao Marco, tutti i video sul mio canale RUclips hanno sottotitoli in inglese e puoi attivare la traduzione automatica in italiano su RUclips. Fare clic sul pulsante "CC" per attivare sottotitoli / titoli e fare clic su settings->subtitles / CC per scegliere la lingua. Spero che questo aiuti - divertiti ;-)
Hi Marco, All videos on my RUclips channel have English subtitles and you can activate automatic translation to Italien on RUclips. Click on the "CC" button to activate sub/titles and click on settings->subtitles/CC to choose language. Hope this helps - enjoy ;-)
Grazie mille ho provato e funziona. I tuoi consigli sono molto preziosi. Ciao, continua cosi
where are you from
Denmark - enjoy ;-)