NEW 23 WRX Problems Already?!
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New Subaru, same old Subaru problems.... We're installing our first modifications to the WRX today! Obviously we need to start with that rear end and an Aeroflow Dynamics Duckbill Spoiler is going to help to offset the black plastic of the bumper a bit!
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"This is why I don't bring my car to dealerships..." LMAO no truer words have ever been spoken. GOOD LUCK
I've also got a White VB. Going to go check to see if mine are tight as well. Excited to see your plans for this!
Kevin, I am so glad you got this wrx. I recently sold my GR86 for a vb wrx so i was sad that your videos werent applicable to me anymore. but now i guess im back in it!
Sometimes you have to tighten it for it to becomes loose. Used to do that with rail car hand wheels. It was strange but it worked. May be worth a try.
I find it funny how I bought a 2015 WRX when you started off with subiespeed, watched that content the whole time I had the car. Sold it for a truck. Years later Im looking into a GR86 and see you ended up having one making content for it too, how ironic. Waited forever and never got it because I drove a couple states away for a 2023 WRX...and now you also have one, making content for it. Love how I can continue to enjoy your videos, all these years later. Thanks man.
Glad you're still watching years later! Truly appreciate the support!
I am sorry for your pain, but I have to say that moment where you sat down in defeat from that lug is like I feel every time I try to do ANY project on my car. Something always goes wrong lol. It was nice to know I'm not alone anymore.
Ngl imo that style wing looks a lil too small for that trunk.
I can see where you're coming from! Things being too small is something I'm used to 🤣
There definitely needs to be a 3 piece Duckbill that starts directly off the black bar/Subaru logo and has pieces that go above the tail lights. It would really help widen the wedgie trunk design and compliment the flares on the quarter panel. I've asked Aeroflow on YT and their QA insta posts but they never respond 😅
@@KevinVois that an Asian joke?😂
@@Subi_doo 😉
@@KevinVo I hear that shit all the time too. 1/2 Vietnamese and people want to make assumptions 😂🤣😂🤣😂
brooo you were so close, i wish you luck buddy
That duckbill looks fire! Im with you about wrx problems. My new VB with 1600 miles, threw an engine light this morning. Taking to the dealer tomorrow to check. You have to do the short shifter next. Big difference.
Sorry about the CEL. A STS is on the list!
@@KevinVobro it was the gas cap brahhahaha
The fit, paint match and shape are beautiful! That said, the BA bumper throws the visual balance off. Really needs a sizable wing. It makes the duckbill look like it's for the new supra imo
Another great video Kevin! That sucks that they torqued the heck out of the locks! Can't wait to see what else you do to the ca. The spoiler definitely adds a subtle but good touch to the rear.
I always remove those goofy wheel locks with an impact so I can put lots of axial force into it as it turns and doesn’t slip out. I thought that was gonna be your problem, glad to see it wasn’t haha. Not that dramatic over torque is a lot better
Welp, went to try and remove the wheel locks on my new BRZ after seeing your video and those things are not budging. Thanks Subaru ;c
I'd have them replace those studs; they are probably stretched and could fail, especially on the track... I wonder if they are cross-threaded??
Cross threading all four of them would be wild haha I'm sure they just used an air gun on them for too many ugga duggas
Most of my GR86 lug nuts were super tight from the factory. Ended up replacing them with ARP studs. I suspect you will too.
I work for Subaru as a lube tech and I can’t stress enough about how terrible the Subaru studs are in general
@@KevinVo I had some overtightened lug studs. They snapped on the highway and the wheel flew off. Take it seriously, it could kill you.
Lol, I was exactly like that Kevin. Had a boot on due to injury but I couldn’t sit still and recover. I ended up doing car stuff. Hope everything turns out well for you.
In terms of the car, I think you chose the best color. The duck bill is a bit too much, but it is a genuinely good looking part. Sorry about the lug nuts. I feel your pain. I had to get mine out by ruining the lug nut. Good luck! Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for the support!
My local Subaru dealership has replaced my broken wheel studs multiple times (for free), and they have been the one's to over-torque them. I will be doing my own wheel change overs now, haha.
9:00 that’s me anytime something doesn’t work out as it should when i’m modding my cars LMFAO
At least thieves will have a tough time stealing your OEM 17s 😅
Good luck man! Cant wait for the progress on this.
I have a 23 WRX white as well. Looking for a F1 light, recommendations and a video on your install.
Hey Kev, have you looked into a baffle oil pan for the 86? Right turns seem to be killing these engines
Kogeki gang 🤙 I’m having some lift on the sides now after what seemed like a perfect install tho. How visible is the gray 3M on your top side? Might just be me over obsessing, but I hate that I’m able to see the tape at certain angles.
If you have a lug nut stuck with other lug nuts broken loose already. Snug up the ones you already freed and go back to the jammed lug nut. Works for me almost every time. Great opportunity to make a video on arp lug nuts. (No reason to go extended unless you need them for wheel spacers.)
I snapped a lug stud a couple weeks ago putting back on my oem wheels from snow tires 18 brz. Dealership changes my oil for free. Only reason I go to them. Find someone or shop with air tools and you'll be good. Love your videos and miss you at ftspeed
*How long is that breaker bar? It looks like one of those extendable ones. Is that the max length? I usually use a 24" one and they seem to be able to break anything loose.*
The wheel locks I got from Subaru that were on mine snapped. I torqued it to what Aeroflow said to torque it to, and it didn't feel right. Checked the next day and the head of the lug snapped off. Had to hammer a socket to it and it came off. Spacers are on though, and it looks way better.
I like that you kept in the issue with the lug nuts.
Thanks for watching!
Good looking ride bro. What's the hp?
I have a 2016 limited WRX. Is it worth jumping into a new WRX?
Normally I would go to the 3/4 drive ratchet and tap with a hammer to impact break the nuts loose. Done this a few times with old suspension bits also.
Wow, How could they torque it that much? Thanks for the vid warning; I prob would have snapped mine. Taking it into the dealer to have them do it.
It’s sad but it’s one of those items you expect to replace when owning a Subaru. I had to do it on our Crosstrek and likely the 86 at some point. Good thing there are aftermarket solutions!
This happened to me on my wheel lock key actually broke the locking lug nut. Fun times for sure.
Hey Kevin, the exact same thing happened to me on my 2023 BRZ. I was trying to install lowering springs and all the regular lugnuts came off fine but I could NOT get the locking nuts off even with a giant breaker bar and extension and destroyed the lugnut key. I ordered another key from Mcgard for $20 and it happened AGAIN! I ended up having to get one of those lug nut removal kits where you hammer on the socket and used a long breaker to finally get them off. What a pain! Like anyone is going to steal stock Subaru 17" wheels. BAN LOCKING LUGNUTS!
the normal 5th gen impreza has this problem. I snapped 3 studs when i had it. only ever used hand tools to tighten it after the first. Its just soft aluminum studs, get aftermarket ones trust me
you need to use a jack stick or pole that fits the ratchet for more leverage to take out the lug nut. dont be scared eventually youll have to do it anyways..
I can already feel it seizing up. I'm almost certain it's going to snap with more leverage.
Holy hell with those locking lugs!! Do you not have a true breaker bar? Curious to see what you do to get them off.
I do, but I can feel them seizing up already. The stud snapping is almost a certainty at this point.
get a small torch, I recommend a bernzomatic st200, and heat up the lock lug. Should come off easier
My friendly local dealership did the same dang thing to my VA wrx had to replace 3 wheel studs myself now that i know they don’t have time or care to torque wheels…
4th brake light install ?
does the duckbill block your 3rd brake light?
Hey Kevin, maybe next mod is a exhaust or tune? Power upgrades
I just have the same issue with my mustang; the ford dealer over tightened the lug nut and also made them swollen. Now I have to destroy the lug nut to remove the wheels.
No adhesion promotor needed for duck bill spoiler ?
why didnt you get the traditional badass spoiler ??
Some smart ass said "oh you dont want your fancy OEM wheels stolen..... I got you".
Can steal them if you can't get them off! 😅
Yep factory wheel locks are always too tight. They are the same on my 2020 wrx.
When Kevin goes "What the F", definitely felt that
Did Aeroflow's STi wing on the wife's VB and the paint match was great. The template kind of sucked but I just whipped my own up real quick for it.
Bro literally yesterday my lug nut stud on my brz snapped because the shop torqued them too tight. Had to replace 5 of them😢
It was an ez fix tho…just time consuming.
wow, i have the same exact problem with my wrx, I wanted to changed the wheels and they so over torqued I was afraid i was going to break it. I need to take it to the dealership.
that spoiler is an insane fit bro, nice.
Thats exactly what happened to me taking the wheels off my 86 to change the pads :)
Is the 23 Brz duck bill installed the same way just tape?
No, the oem one is bolted in place.
the taillights of the wrx look similar to them of the gr86 or am i wrong
The struggle is real. LOL!!
Next 3rd brake light 💢💪 let’s Go Kevin
I like the spoiler because you don't have to drill into the trunk
just slide a metal pipe over to ratchet to increase the length and give you more leverage. I keep one in my car and it's gotten me out of several tight situations like this.
You need a bigger breaker bar lol. Never fails when you need to break something loose. And use your weight instead of trying to pull up to break it free, push with your weight over top. Hell jump on the breaker bar if you have too. It will come free much easier regardless
It's going to 100% break the stud regardless haha
We like the spoilers more but that’s defiantly different!
How many people here saw the title and thought he'd blown a head gasket?
Just me?😂
No please God no! 😅
Great job on the wing, but don't hurt your back with those lugnuts.
I literally stood on the torque wrench to get my buddy's WRX security lugs off
Studs were fine, but the security lugs were not reusable. Get new lug nuts regardless after you remove them.
Daaaaaang.. you were moving the whole car on that last one 😮 10:51
First mod that will revolutionize the look of that WRX and make it look 12x better: remove that dealer license plate frame!!!! ( Great video as always)
Good idea!
yup, screw free advertising.
Yeah, it's scary how the bolts were torqued from the factory. Even on the VA
@10:00 dawg use a breaker bar!
for reference if nut torqued to greater than the head on the torque wrench, the square drive will rip off--i've done it before on the 32mm axle nut, but same principle here;
there is a quick fix, use breaker bar--again for reference if your torque wrench is 18" and you weight 150, then that is 225 foot pounds it will take the nut off dawgie
dawg one mo suggestion wd-40 my dawg woof
Looks good, but I still can't get past the plastic cladding around the wheels.
I knew exactly how you felt Kevin when you hit that first locking lug/stud. Had some new-used wheels that I wanted to go test fit on my 17 rex. Went to loosen a lug and stripped a stud. Other three wheels lugs were easy to get off. This was also my first time getting at them since I got the car from the dealer. I always torque my lugs at 90ft/lb and they're just as easy to get off.
Same problem. They overtorqued my wheel lock and I stripped the key 😅
You need a bigger breaker bar with more leverage. Or do the stealers way and find a impact socket that could go over it barely, hammer it and rip wheel lock lug nut. I had to do that to mine one time was not a fun night. Cool thing is i got aftermarket lug nuts. 😅
breaker bar.....it's your best bud when there are none around
dont know about destroying the lug nut with this method but im pretty sure you can fit the wrench to the nut and itll have just enough to hold itself in place without falling... then just stomp on one end. obviously not good idea with an injured leg like in this video.
@@no1washerezz not with his foot lol
+1 on a breaker bar
Why is this being upvoted. His issue isn't breaking the lug nut loose. His issue is wrenching it harder is going to break the stud.
Ducktail looks pretty good.
Just a random piece of advice. If you want your tools to last dont break high TQ with a ratchet. use a breaker bar. thats how you destroy rachets.
If it would've been torqued correctly it wouldn't have been high torque! 😅
Time to invest on impact gun 😅
This is where instead of using hands, get on top of the socket wrench and hop up and down with feet.
I would go to dealer and tell them to take those off.
Other option? Drill the wheel locks out and destroy them while on the wheel - wont stress the studs more then they are already. Or finally - order a set of longer studs and swap them anyway.
Have you ever heard of the breaker bar? It is the bad practice to use a torque wrench to loosen off a wheel lock nut. You should always try to block your wheel before turning any wheel nut off and on.
I didn't use a torque wrench... it's an extendable ratchet 🤦♂️ did you not see how easily the other lug nuts came off? You shouldn't need tons of leverage to break it loos. It's only supposed to be ~90ftlbs.
Duck bill looks good on th e VB.. but those wheel lock lugs. damn.. I just picked up a '24 WRX Premium yesterday. Now I'm curious about my wheel locks.. Going to test them tomorrow. 🫣
I just checked my BRZ after seeing this. Yep, cant get any of them off. I just hate the dealerships in the US
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I can tell you were bummed but I think you did the smart thing. I would have been too impatient and snapped a stud.
Have a 22' BRZ and the first time I took off the wheels, I was SUPER careful because I heard all the horror stories about BRZ lugs. They came off ok but holy shit, they were all chalky and dry. I've had them on and off a few times and I've been very careful each time... I could absolutely see how a dealership or shop could fuck these things up.
Lug nuts are suppose to be hand threaded and then tightened with power tool. Thanks Kevin.
Yeah I always thread them on by hand first!
So now I should go check mine I guess... under 2k miles. Pray for me. If I find mine are the same it will go to dealer for proper torque. Not even a question. Nearly 40 grand for a car it had better have properly torqued lugs. Glad I came across your vid. Good luck.
They were fine
Glad to hear they were good!
i never use locking lugs, ive broken waay too many of the locks in the threads. besides, if thieves want your wheels theyll find a way to take them off, regardless of wheel locks.
I wish they were never installed haha
Break the lug nuts loose when the wheel is in the air and there is no load on them. If you don't it puts way too much pressure on the threads. A lot of people say to loosen on the ground but many designs depend on the lug nuts to help center the wheel so there is a ton of pressure on them while the car is sitting on the ground. So theoretically you could do some damage to threads over time. Also dealers do tend to just us an impact and dont even hand thread in the beginning.
Hi, mechanical engineer here- overtorqued lug nuts (or any nut/bolt) are my absolute biggest pet peeve, and literally deform and fatigues the threads which significantly weakens them. Please, for the love of god, if anyone is reading this and plans to ugga dugga their shit on, BUY A TORQUE WRENCH. Impacts are for loosening things.
What strikes me the most is the similarities between the tail lights, yet how much better they look on the 86.
I'm in a different camp. These lights are growing on me. Makes this car feel like the BRZ's older brother or something lol. I think they'd look great with a wing.
You should put a hollow pole onto the end of the wrench to give you leverage and some flex. You can also tap the bar with a mallet before trying to put all your strength behind it.
What problems? It’s a base model WRX. Subaru doesn’t install lock nuts from the factory. Your dealer added them on.
I want to see some UEL Headers on this next!
Looks good, be careful installing wheel spacers without installing extended lugs. You need the correct overlap on the lugnut threads to make sure your wheels don't come loose while driving.
These are bolt on spacers and not the traditional kind.
@@KevinVo how wide are the spacers ?
@@dougrodriguez4977 they're 20mm
@@KevinVo wowza!
Should look interesting.
Shocked how over tightened those locks were, outrageous.
Look forward to see where you go. I like your partners, they are very talented. I’m not a VB owner, I’m a GD guy but I like the new wrx. Thanks for replying.
Subaru Antelope Valley! Let's go!
Kevin, get an impact tool, like a bigger Milwaukie for example, they help with situations like this.
I have an impact 😅 I just like using hand tools
I take the bar off my floor jack and slide it over the socket wrench, essentially making it a huge breaker bar. should remove it easily with little force
obviously still a chance of breaking the stud but being brand new, i'm sure just needs a little oomph and should come off
The vb has a lot of sharp lines. I don’t think the duckbill flows well with it.
Oh shit I see my headlights out of the Frs 🥵 I’m so excited
Soon!!!
You should have warranty? Take advantage of it.
super long breaker bar maybe?
Oh man. That’s horrible…I felt that frustration with over torqued lugs.
Kevin, give me some ideas for my 2015 ForesterXT Touring, Please 👍 I think it looks great Kevin.
Check out compressive tuning!
@@KevinVo thanks Kevin
The last lug nut that’s on the wheel is carrying the entire load of the wheel. You should always remove the lock nut first before you remove the rest of the lug nuts. The reverse is true when you put your wheel back on. The lock nut should be the last one back on. This way the lock nut sees the least load when you that it off and put back on. On your WRX, torque all the lug nuts back on the wheel to spec. Then try your impact drill to remove the lock nut first.
That is not correct the lugnuts do not bare the full weight of the wheel or vehicle. The center bore does. Pay attention next time you put on a wheel u usually have to push it that last little bit over the lip on the hub before the wheel is flush. Also on several other wheels he only took one other lug nut off so even if your statement where true it would still not apply.
This is also why selecting aftermarket wheels is so critical. Just because the bolt pattern matches and backspacing will clear does not mean that wheel will fit correctly. Luckily most manufacturers use similar centerbore specs on similar bolt patterns.