Or just buy the 7800x3d and have no need to fart about with overclocking and having a small sun inside your pc that uses energy like there is no tomorrow
Fuck a new cpu. Ur fine on 7700k. More logical upgrade... AE-9 SOUND CARD, AND some headphones in the 600+ range, instead. Better upgrade then going from Nvidia 1060 to a 3070. With out a doubt. Fuck trashy ass on board audio. It's pathetic. Who needs 80 more fps from already 120 fps... when you can hear enemy locations before you can see, to the point your aiming at walls waiting to pass doorways to prefire your enemy. Haha get a sound card, they have open pcie slots because it's worth it to get a sound card and manufacturers can't deny that.
Dude missed the whole point on the 7800x3d. Having the cache on 1 die, you don’t need to overclock it. It’s a beast straight out the box especially for the price, and it’s fucking good on power consumption.
@@rtx3060g6 you need 6000mhz cl 30 for advertised performance anything under that is a waste of time and will youll lose fps. all these benchmarks are done with a good kit of 6000mhz... with low latency.
"If you are an overclocker dont buy a x3d chip, buy a 600$ 13900k instead so you can tune your Pcores & Ecores to reach 7800x3d performance consuming up to 350watts against the 105w of the ryzen chip..." seems an amazing achievement 😅
100% accurate. 13900k loses to the 7800x3d is most games even when overclocked. I've had both chips. 13900k 6ghz pcore and 7200cl34 ram still lost to the 7800x3d 6000 cl30 combo. And was half the price for the cpu mobo and ram lol.
@@ChamberTech oo really?? And what's the number of likes? And don't tell me you have 522 likes with 1.1k dislikes with 52k+ views. The 4.2k dislikes definitely looks more believable for the 52k views lol
Bro this is just bad advice. It doesn't matter which core can "OC" if the other is still better performance anyway. Extreme ram speeds don't matter very much that's why people say to go for "sweet spot" ram kits. x3d parts dont rely on ram speed as much because of the integrated cache. 13900k is mostly only better in esports titles which have extremely high performance on x3d parts as well, the difference in those titles is unimportant, you're probably not going to notice 400fps vs 350fps in league of legends for example. In general the 7800x3d is better and cheaper than the 13900k for gaming. Please don't run a tech channel if you're not going to do your homework because you'll just confuse people.
You're probably one of the most delusional people I've ever met, it's odd that you accuse someone else of not knowing what they're talking about and then you're on here spouting complete and utter nonsense like a fucking idiot. 1. Extreme ram speeds ranging from 7800 - 8400MT/s really do matter and the performance differential from AMD's amazingly recommended 6000MT/s is night and day, the results aren't even close. 2. My 13900KF (overclocked/tuned) beats the 7800X3D/7950X3D in every single benchmark test, there is not a single test that it's beat my CPU at. Also if we're relating to eSports titles, higher FPS = lower latency = faster response times = better overall experience. So no, it's not "unimportant" matter of a fact it's very important especially in FPS titles (Valorant, CS:GO, R6: Siege, Fornite) the list goes on. 3. In general, no, the X3D is not better than the 13900k for gaming in any way, shape or form. Sure, it's cheaper but that's literally all you have going for it, nothing else, nothing more. It cannot be overclocked as well, it's locked in place, the 3d chips are plug and play chips, they're for idiots (kind of like yourself) who do not have the knowledge or the know how, so sure, if you're an idiot, know nothing about PC's, tuning or overclocking then yes, get the 7800X3D and enjoy subpar performance compared to a fully tuned and overclocked CPU/RAM system. Please don't comment on a tech channel if you're not going to do YOUR homework. Fucking idiot.
Intel fanboy SPOTTED! The 7800X3D is for gaming. NO, the 13900k does NOT beat it. In fact, it loses...badly...nearly always...while using 2x the power. GET WRECKED. 🤣
@@ChamberTech Knock yourself out, but...the 'truth' is already available, from multiple sources, with established track records, and which represent a larger sample size. And if you're going to OC the Intel CPU, you also need to OC the 7800X3D for an apples to apples comparison. And then there's the RAM to consider. DDR5 6000 CL30 with tight timings similar to those Buildzoid recommends give even more performance. So...basically...a properly tuned 7800X3D is just going to get that much faster. Others have tried this and learned the TL:DR version: 3D VCache > raw clock speed.
I will compare them by both being maxed out. That means 7800x3d at the highest ram speed possible and 13900k at the highest ram speed possible. All cpus overclocked
@@ChamberTech So basically faster and more expensive RAM for the Intel CPU, thus giving it an advantage. 😆 Not to mention the 20%-30% greater power cost for the Intel CPU. It is basically the AMD FX of this current generation when it comes to efficiency.
Clowntech , "8400 mhz" is reachable only after buying 5 processors , 2-3 motherboards to find the best binned one and then if you even get it to boot in the windows and stress test enough. Welcome to hell when your ddr5 oc "8400 mhz" is not stable anymore on the next day because intels ddr5 imc.
Was about to comment this as of 5/2024. With the whole 13th gen and 14th gen i9 instability, even default motherboard settings cause degredation to the CPUs. I tested with my 14700k to the intel baseline 125W PL1 / 253W PL2 and instantly lost 15% performance than what I know I should be getting from benchmarks from youtubers. This industry has become a shitshow and just wants to gain a slight edge from competition just to end up killing their product.
@@kamizeroxi don't think infustry is a shit show. I'll even add that the x3d cache developement was one of the greatest thinngs we got lately and it's not killing itself and it's on a cheap budget. On the other hand p cores e cores arent the best innovation of the century.
Take a look at the power draw. Even the overclockers are undervolting a 13900k. For roughly the same performance (unless you're into Factorio or Assetto Corsa Competizione or MSFS where AMD is way out ahead), AMD is going to draw 30-50% as much power, *and* it'll be cheaper. The real comparison should have been something like a 13700k. Which most of the above point also stands against. The 13900k is pointless. Who wants to overclock e-cores and suck down 300 watts to do it?
If ur gonna game and run an intell stop at the i5 13600k lmao. 7800x3d is for 4090s and beyond. Fuck it I'm getting 7800x3d with my 3070, then I'm changing the 2 danger voltages to 1.2v and run at 6200 mhz ram, for less then half the cost as a 13900 rig AND ILL AIR COOL IT LIKE A BOSS SO I CAN GAME ALL FUCKING DAY. why in God's green earth would someone get a stupid ass 13900k, for workloads there are other things and only few niche cases does a 13900k take a win, by a percent or 2 at best. Stupid to go Intel, and is safe if you bring soc voltage and that vbb?? Voltage to 1.2 nothin to stress and you'll be hitting 200 fps on trash MW2. THIS KID IS GETTING PAID BY INTEL. I GET IT NOW. FUCKING DIRTY ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO INFLUENCE. no need to overclock a 7800x3d, and it'll normally get better gaming performance over all other chips, for 320 plus mobo and ram, like 870 bucks total before ssd powerfully videotaped sound card.... if you don't run a sound card, your a fucking MORON. on board sound on mobos and consoles is such TRASH. GET A SOUNDCARD (AE9) AND YOULL FIND THAT TO BE THE ABSOLUTE BEST FUCKIN UPGRADE RIGHT NOW AND FOR THE NEXT MANY YEARS YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR GAMING EXPERIENCE. YA A SOUND CARD. BOYCOTT ONBOARD TRASH SOUND PROCESSING. FOR REALLLL😂 IF U GOT NO CARD YOU AINT LIVING RIGHT. AND GET SOME BADASS HEADPHONES TOO. 600 GOOD ENTRY LEVEL HEADPHONES YA SCRUBBS.
They are limiting power draw because manufacturers of motherboards left it wide open. If you’re worried about power costs the 7800x3d will draw far more power.
you can tell he has no real experience with CPU's. Overclocking is a hobby of the past! Like burning and ripping DVD's. Most gamers wanna play games. Without all the hassle and BS of overclocking. The waste of electricity just for a boost in performance you need an AL to detect. Thanks for the advice kid I will stick with my 7800x3d.
@@TheT0nedudehobby of the past it's true. Less and less people want to overclock their cpus because of the costs implied. IT was a niche b4 now it's even more niche. Accept it cause it's a fact man.. people want plug n play .
Why the hell I want oc my machine and run up the electric bill and hear my fan screaming for small marginal increase plus it will stress out your machine lifespan.
@@ChamberTechlol, these new intel generations are failing using normal settings....i can't imagine you could overclock them much more without being very very very blesse in the silicon lottery
@@Max-fw3qy even at best silicon CPU, the architecture is over the point of tapping out due to clock speed saturation that intel is pushing with its own factory OC out the gate. Then you add in more OC by users and these CPUs are burning itself out in less than 2 years.
Awful take man... you should delete this video, its soo wrong. Ive overclocked 3 different 13900ks on a dual 480mm custom loop. I used the best 13900k of the 3 with 7200 m/t cl 34 ram and still it was losing to a 7800x3d 6000m/t cl30 kit in a cheap b650 board. Bad advice.
@@ChamberTechhe actively just said 7200 mhz ram was getting stomped by 6000 mhz ram don’t make tech videos if you don’t know what you are talking about
If you get a 7800X3D there's NO NEED to overclock it. It's as fast as fuck when it comes to gaming, and there isn't a CPU that beats it for gaming purposes at the time of me posting this.
how about getting the temps lower than stock without messing with overclock? I’ve looked into undervolting but I need better sources to inform myself on the topic specifically for the 7800X3D
@levilevi6159 Yup, I think that you can do that with PBO(?) in the BIOS 🤔 You'll get lower temperatures but at the expense of performance. As long as you have a decent air or AIO cooler you won't need to cut the power down because it's unlikely to throttle. But I'm not sure tbh, I'm not getting mine for another couple of months unfortunately.
Sure, I'll pay $200 on a maybe after tuning. That makes perfect sense 🤣🤣🤣. And the 13900k is on a dead platform. Bro. I need my 90 seconds back. Stick to legos🤣🤣🤣
@@oskifv half the price would be under 300$ half the cores as well.. not denying its a great cpu tho :) just saying the difference isn't huge in actual fps i couldn't care about power usage.
7800x3d, you can move the ratio right, but what about PBO2 and negative curve optimizer, hit 5.5ghz with -20 on mine. With so less power than the 13900k. Keep in mind.
Mine runs comfortably at 75c, 145 watts at 5.4 GHz on a last generation Noctua NH-D15 cooler. ORRR, I might hit 6.2ghz and pay an extra 40$ a month on the power bill and need a chiller to keep the damn thing from going critical…. Let me think for a second….
It 100% is (GPU, ram, cpu) in that order for gaming But his statement is that a $700 mobo and $540 cpu beats a $350 cpu and $200 mobo Like even if it does, that’s over 2x the cost 😂
@@Frosty-dr8bsIts not worth it. The performance increase is really small in gaming. I have done it for years. Why bother for 2-3 fps ? Its just not worth it.
@@almightybogza what nonsense? GPU can get you 7-10%, or like 15-20% if it’s a 6950xt with more power tool Ram can give a20-30% boost to 1% and 0.1% lows. Cpu is maybe 2-6%
@@almightybogza personal experience PBO -2/3% Ram OC - 6% for averages in some games, like 10-20% for 1% lows GPU, ~10%, not able to ustoilize more power tool like other rdna2 gpus
Umm actually the 7800x3d costs about 375 dollars and the 13900k costs about 600 dollars so the 7800x3d has 2 times more gaming perf at a fraction of the 13900k's price 🤓🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️
You don’t need fast ram with a 7800x3d. The extra cache makes sure you don’t need that. A 13900k pulls 200 watts more under load, that’s serious money with energy prices these days. If you don’t care at all about those 2 facts, then yeah get a 13900k. If you play CPU heavy games like Rust, or Anno 1800, and you play a lot of hours in one session, and don’t care about hardcore overclocking, then the 7800x3d is the best performance choice. Especially because DDR5 is now cheaper and you don’t need the fastest memory for this cpu.
Another reason why this video aged like milk: He made a video titled "Stop Intel Instability" and proceeds to tell everyone to underclock and undervolt both 13th gen and 14th gen i9.
Intel fanboy detected,opinion rejected. 7800X3D beats the hell out of anything right now especially in poorly optimised games like tarkov. Literally no reason to go intel here. Its also a lot more expensive and its a mini sun thermalwise..
This is true, 13900k will outperform it if it’s tuned to the max, BUT, at a cost of a dead platform, and chugging 2-3x more power than AMD. I’m a former overclocker, but even I’m willing to admit, it ain’t worth it this generation.
In retrospect as of 5/2024, still a bad advice. Even 14700k or 14900k would not apply to this advice. 14900k(s) are killing themselves with the default power settings of motherboards just to get that slight edge to 7800x3d. AND there are reports on reddit for 14700k instability too but not widely reported nor even looked at by intel. As a 14700k owner, I hate what this industry has become many thanks to many youtubers that drive the benchmarking/performance metrics and intel not even admitting that their CPU by default is clocked to suicide.
Definitely an Intel fanboy lol. The 7800x3D is one of the best CPUs in the market currently for a reason. Nothing can match it & especially if you pair it with the 7900 XTX, that is a killer combo
Overclocking anything after 2020 is a giant scam. Do not listen to this person at all. Undervolting is what enthusiasts are doing nowadays. Have fun with using Intel's 300 watt CPUs with worse gaming performance than the 7800X3D's 100 watts when being used in games.
You can do anything with the right BIOS, i seen it done, depending the games you play and what else you do with your computer and how long you plan to keep the build and if you want to be able to upgrade CPUs using the same Motherboard and system and if heat and power bill is a big deal, Intel especially large core high speed CPUs are hot snd use a TON of power, if you have a over clocked 13900K and a 3090 or highest end AMD GPU your power bill will be extra hundreds of dollars, my 3080FTW3 Ultra with 450w bios and a 5800X3D under volted .30 all cores so its great on power the GPU alone when used half the day or less 5 days a week cost me 100 dollars a month, if i had a even higher watt card some of the highest end AMD ans Nvidia GPUs go up to 800-1000+ watts when over clocked then add in a Intel high end super inefficient power usage CPU you could be looking at 300+ dolllars a month especially if you run all day and night for music while you sleep and anorher computer for streaming, we looking at 500+ dollars a month, ask the guys crypto mining especially in hot weather high power costing areas. My house gets hot running my 3080 at +120hz core ans 1200hz vram. My next build will be a AMD CPU the X3D variant and a fast and efficient GPU, if you dont like to mess with bios and over locking get a amd X3D chip, most you have to do if you want ia undervolt making it more efficient cooler and last longer and its easier and safer thsn over clocking, but you don't have to do anything in software or bios to get the posted speeds that you purchased it for, all other amd and Intel CPUs require you to go into bios or download software to overclock your CPU to get the speeds that are posted on the box ans commercials to sell them. My friends wont touch bios or software and could just use there last computer with the bios settings correct for ram ans CPU and would be as fast or faster than the new gen rig they built with out it being optimized correctly, if you dont turn on the Ram bios file for 3200mhz ram you will get 2133mhz ram or slower until you turn on the file for getting those speeds same with CPU speeds and if you want fast GPU buy the OC version of the GPU if you don't want to mess with files. But with a little tuning most people could get as much performance from the rig they have now as a generation newer rig thats stock like yours, best investment for fast computer is cooling for ypur CPU to keep the boost speeds higher longer, if you OC it without good cooling and correct fan curves you will get thernak throttling and crazy frame drop snd 1% .1% lows making it choppy and nastier than if you left it alone, besy way to compensate this is turn the fan curve to sit at 40% at all times and go up tp 100% if it goes above like 72 or where ever yours drops boost speeds lower due to temps. I run mine at 100% at all times when gaming, best performance and keeps your rig running smoother longer like your car's cooling. Best way ia to put your computer away from where you sit so you dont hear it and give it freah air mine sits by the window sucking in cool air and window across room open so it suck its more air vehins the computer abd expels across room gicing good air flow and make sure your computer has a positive case flow so it only sucks in air where th fans ask for it snd exit air everwhere else sp it doesnt suck air in where filters are not.
im talking about GAMING, bc the 7800x3D is a gaming CPU (even tho its absolutely capable of production workloads as well ofc). on average 7800x3d is faster by a couple % up to well over 10%. sometimes they are about equally as fast and sometimes the 13900k/14900k (effectively same thing) is faster but if its faster, its usually by a small margin. @@travisgoodfella and Intel doesthis while consuming substantially more power which will mean more heat. also its not an apples to apples comparison to begin with bc they arent even close to the same price. and still - the 7800x3d often destroys the 13 or 14900k. thats insane for CPU that costs below 400€; the efficiency of the Ryzen CPUs is fucking awesome. The RDNA GPUs from AMD sadly arent as efficient as Nvidia but when talking about CPUs, AMD is currently shitting on Intel big time. the Hardware Unboxed benchmarks are very good, they test a ton of games. i would recommend various youtube channels BUT stay aways from those fake benchmark channel youtubers who always only show benchmarks but never their face. there are often irregularities, ppl suspect them just claiming to do benchmarks for clicks, but they write down the results of different stuff or simply pull it out of thin air and stuff like that.
I've had many issues with my 7800x3d, constantly having to remove the cmos, reseat the cpu and reapply thermal paste. Id say its a good cpu for the price and if you want to run it stock or with a PBO curve but if you want to overclock cores and ram speed then definitely intel would be the better option but for people saving money and running mostly stock the 7800x3d is a better choice.
So bro is advising us to get a sun in our pc with 350w or power consumption that is gonna make our electricity bill more expensive than the actual pc, spending 400 more dollars on overclocking when the 7800x3d is already better than the 14900ks without overclocking and pretty much if you think about it not even water cooling or the top of the line AIO’s could cool this ‘13900k’ witch means we need to spend more money on an cpu cooler. When you can save all that money and maybe buy more ram, storage, a better gpu, better psu, better fans. When even a used air cooler can get temps like 20-30 degrees with cyberpunk. What’s your point here man ? Let people buy what they want and don’t “sponsor” overhyped products to paralyze our pc.
Good luck on watercooling a 13900k? Oh you mean like everyone else is doing? It's not hard to achieve 57/45/50 or 58/44/49, I know, I've done so myself and whilst gaming it never even comes close to thermal throttling. Back to your hole.
If you care about power draw you’re broke. Also I can cool a 13900k just fine. Watch my videos on it. The issue is that Linus doesn’t know what he’s doing. Linus is entertainment not education.
Please make that CPU optimization video! I recently got back into the PC world and discovered your videos. Enjoy your content and just subscribed. I have all the parts to put my new build together, which includes the i7-14700k. I heard these cpus run hot, so I bought a 360 mm AIO and plan on running a baseline to see if it thermal throttles. If it does, I'm gonna give undervolting a shot and see if performance increases. Might even try to overclock with the undervolt. Will watch the video when you release it to see if there's anything else I can do. Cheers mate!
13900k beats amd once u spend 4x the money LOL. Need a bigger power supply more expensive motherboard more expensive ram. U need to have knowledge of memory overclocking, CPU overclocking, bios tweaks, windows tweaks just to get 15% more performance than a stock 7800x3D wowwweeww😂 great advice.
I just got the 7800x3d at microcenter with a bundle deal. It came with a motherboard and 32 gigs of DDR5 ram, all fir 499. Better than spending alot more for intel and all I do is game just like most people watching
The additional cost, power draw and thermal output of the 13990k really make it unattractive. Given it's hard to cool it under normal boost I'm not sure who is overclocking the thing.
13900k plus a whole custom loop, meanwhile my friends 7800x3d 7900xtx build (im to broke for that) literally only has a 240 mm radiator from corsair, he said its just for asthetics and im pretty sure it can even run with an aircooler
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Or just buy the 7800x3d and have no need to fart about with overclocking and having a small sun inside your pc that uses energy like there is no tomorrow
😂
That's also cheaper with lower power consumption. 🤣
@@noobfailgaming5703Yes, and waaaayyy less
Fuck a new cpu. Ur fine on 7700k. More logical upgrade... AE-9 SOUND CARD, AND some headphones in the 600+ range, instead. Better upgrade then going from Nvidia 1060 to a 3070. With out a doubt. Fuck trashy ass on board audio. It's pathetic. Who needs 80 more fps from already 120 fps... when you can hear enemy locations before you can see, to the point your aiming at walls waiting to pass doorways to prefire your enemy. Haha get a sound card, they have open pcie slots because it's worth it to get a sound card and manufacturers can't deny that.
And not on a dead end platform
buy a 13900k? and for overclocking? this video really aged badly lol
Like fr. Intel will be exstinct in 5 years max if they keep on doing the same mistake again. Even if they have fixed it now it's still too late.
13th is 🔥
Dead intel
It beats the 7800x3d….
To the grave 😂
Been running my 14900k at 5.9/4.5/5.0 since launch with zero degradation or stability issues. The copium is strong with this one 😂
Dude missed the whole point on the 7800x3d. Having the cache on 1 die, you don’t need to overclock it. It’s a beast straight out the box especially for the price, and it’s fucking good on power consumption.
Yeah, with 7800x3d you don't need as fast/good of ram because of all the vcache.
@@malvinchau2056 you need 6000 cl30 for advertised performance... ppl forgetting this... use shit ram get less performance than intel.
@@TheBURBAN111 you dont need that fast of a ram for the 7800x3d cuz it has higher l3 cache...
@@rtx3060g6 you need 6000mhz cl 30 for advertised performance anything under that is a waste of time and will youll lose fps. all these benchmarks are done with a good kit of 6000mhz... with low latency.
It’s actually power hungry during idle.
"If you are an overclocker dont buy a x3d chip, buy a 600$ 13900k instead so you can tune your Pcores & Ecores to reach 7800x3d performance consuming up to 350watts against the 105w of the ryzen chip..." seems an amazing achievement 😅
ive only been able to pull 85w on my 7800x3d and that was an all core load. in game its between 35-40w lol
@@rileyhance318 you're gpu limited
@@snowpuddle9622 ik ideally thats the part you want at 100%.
100% accurate. 13900k loses to the 7800x3d is most games even when overclocked. I've had both chips. 13900k 6ghz pcore and 7200cl34 ram still lost to the 7800x3d 6000 cl30 combo. And was half the price for the cpu mobo and ram lol.
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@@ChamberTech oo really??
And what's the number of likes?
And don't tell me you have 522 likes with 1.1k dislikes with 52k+ views.
The 4.2k dislikes definitely looks more believable for the 52k views lol
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"spend $400 more dollars, you might get better performance" yeaaahhh okay
Ikr 😂
fraudtech
Bro said “might” just to avoid being held accountable 💀
This channel sucks lmao, some of the worst “””advice””” I’ve heard so far
@@raven3696he sounds like a desperate intel fanboy. I don’t understand why people have loyalty to big companies 😂
@@jakmaneditzplmao exactly I love competition because I get a better product for a better deal
Bro this is just bad advice.
It doesn't matter which core can "OC" if the other is still better performance anyway.
Extreme ram speeds don't matter very much that's why people say to go for "sweet spot" ram kits.
x3d parts dont rely on ram speed as much because of the integrated cache.
13900k is mostly only better in esports titles which have extremely high performance on x3d parts as well, the difference in those titles is unimportant, you're probably not going to notice 400fps vs 350fps in league of legends for example.
In general the 7800x3d is better and cheaper than the 13900k for gaming.
Please don't run a tech channel if you're not going to do your homework because you'll just confuse people.
You're probably one of the most delusional people I've ever met, it's odd that you accuse someone else of not knowing what they're talking about and then you're on here spouting complete and utter nonsense like a fucking idiot.
1. Extreme ram speeds ranging from 7800 - 8400MT/s really do matter and the performance differential from AMD's amazingly recommended 6000MT/s is night and day, the results aren't even close.
2. My 13900KF (overclocked/tuned) beats the 7800X3D/7950X3D in every single benchmark test, there is not a single test that it's beat my CPU at. Also if we're relating to eSports titles, higher FPS = lower latency = faster response times = better overall experience. So no, it's not "unimportant" matter of a fact it's very important especially in FPS titles (Valorant, CS:GO, R6: Siege, Fornite) the list goes on.
3. In general, no, the X3D is not better than the 13900k for gaming in any way, shape or form. Sure, it's cheaper but that's literally all you have going for it, nothing else, nothing more. It cannot be overclocked as well, it's locked in place, the 3d chips are plug and play chips, they're for idiots (kind of like yourself) who do not have the knowledge or the know how, so sure, if you're an idiot, know nothing about PC's, tuning or overclocking then yes, get the 7800X3D and enjoy subpar performance compared to a fully tuned and overclocked CPU/RAM system.
Please don't comment on a tech channel if you're not going to do YOUR homework. Fucking idiot.
Yeah. He fails to understand that fast ram isn't really needed in the 7800X3D because of the large amount of L3 Vcache.
I think hes just on some massive cope because he bought the 13900k which is now a bad deal for gaming only.
I still haven’t seen a 7800x3d result that beats mine lol
@@ChamberTech you call yourself a youtuber but can't face criticism? Lol a ytuber 🤣
Intel fanboy SPOTTED!
The 7800X3D is for gaming.
NO, the 13900k does NOT beat it. In fact, it loses...badly...nearly always...while using 2x the power.
GET WRECKED. 🤣
I have a 7800x3d that I will be fully tuning and comparing against my 13900k. We will see the truth
@@ChamberTech Knock yourself out, but...the 'truth' is already available, from multiple sources, with established track records, and which represent a larger sample size.
And if you're going to OC the Intel CPU, you also need to OC the 7800X3D for an apples to apples comparison. And then there's the RAM to consider. DDR5 6000 CL30 with tight timings similar to those Buildzoid recommends give even more performance. So...basically...a properly tuned 7800X3D is just going to get that much faster. Others have tried this and learned the TL:DR version: 3D VCache > raw clock speed.
I will compare them by both being maxed out. That means 7800x3d at the highest ram speed possible and 13900k at the highest ram speed possible. All cpus overclocked
@@ChamberTech So basically faster and more expensive RAM for the Intel CPU, thus giving it an advantage. 😆
Not to mention the 20%-30% greater power cost for the Intel CPU. It is basically the AMD FX of this current generation when it comes to efficiency.
@@maddogfargo3153 you cant overclock a 7800x3d or itll blow up
BAD ADVICE...
nah, this guy is yapping. if you want to buy a 7800x3D, do it
Cost?
375 dollars new
Clowntech , "8400 mhz" is reachable only after buying 5 processors , 2-3 motherboards to find the best binned one and then if you even get it to boot in the windows and stress test enough. Welcome to hell when your ddr5 oc "8400 mhz" is not stable anymore on the next day because intels ddr5 imc.
I know plenty of people who bought a random cpu and z790 apex and running 8400
@@ChamberTech post up proof of hitting 8.4 ghz.
@@ChamberTech clowntech
@@ChamberTech you are paid by intel 🤡
@@ChamberTechdo you really believe the lies you’re telling?
Oof. This aged poorly.
It was intended to.
Channels like this give bad takes to drive engagement. Make people mad, watch 'em go.
Was about to comment this as of 5/2024. With the whole 13th gen and 14th gen i9 instability, even default motherboard settings cause degredation to the CPUs. I tested with my 14700k to the intel baseline 125W PL1 / 253W PL2 and instantly lost 15% performance than what I know I should be getting from benchmarks from youtubers. This industry has become a shitshow and just wants to gain a slight edge from competition just to end up killing their product.
@@kamizeroxi don't think infustry is a shit show. I'll even add that the x3d cache developement was one of the greatest thinngs we got lately and it's not killing itself and it's on a cheap budget. On the other hand p cores e cores arent the best innovation of the century.
Take a look at the power draw.
Even the overclockers are undervolting a 13900k. For roughly the same performance (unless you're into Factorio or Assetto Corsa Competizione or MSFS where AMD is way out ahead), AMD is going to draw 30-50% as much power, *and* it'll be cheaper.
The real comparison should have been something like a 13700k. Which most of the above point also stands against. The 13900k is pointless. Who wants to overclock e-cores and suck down 300 watts to do it?
I do.
If ur gonna game and run an intell stop at the i5 13600k lmao. 7800x3d is for 4090s and beyond. Fuck it I'm getting 7800x3d with my 3070, then I'm changing the 2 danger voltages to 1.2v and run at 6200 mhz ram, for less then half the cost as a 13900 rig AND ILL AIR COOL IT LIKE A BOSS SO I CAN GAME ALL FUCKING DAY. why in God's green earth would someone get a stupid ass 13900k, for workloads there are other things and only few niche cases does a 13900k take a win, by a percent or 2 at best. Stupid to go Intel, and is safe if you bring soc voltage and that vbb?? Voltage to 1.2 nothin to stress and you'll be hitting 200 fps on trash MW2. THIS KID IS GETTING PAID BY INTEL. I GET IT NOW. FUCKING DIRTY ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO INFLUENCE. no need to overclock a 7800x3d, and it'll normally get better gaming performance over all other chips, for 320 plus mobo and ram, like 870 bucks total before ssd powerfully videotaped sound card.... if you don't run a sound card, your a fucking MORON. on board sound on mobos and consoles is such TRASH. GET A SOUNDCARD (AE9) AND YOULL FIND THAT TO BE THE ABSOLUTE BEST FUCKIN UPGRADE RIGHT NOW AND FOR THE NEXT MANY YEARS YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR GAMING EXPERIENCE. YA A SOUND CARD. BOYCOTT ONBOARD TRASH SOUND PROCESSING. FOR REALLLL😂 IF U GOT NO CARD YOU AINT LIVING RIGHT. AND GET SOME BADASS HEADPHONES TOO. 600 GOOD ENTRY LEVEL HEADPHONES YA SCRUBBS.
@@expert8665yeah, but u look like a guy who would kill his brother and betray his best friend, so I am not sure if I wanna be like you
They are limiting power draw because manufacturers of motherboards left it wide open. If you’re worried about power costs the 7800x3d will draw far more power.
@@cuzr702 Literally what?
The 7800x3d draws 65 watts max.
you can tell he has no real experience with CPU's. Overclocking is a hobby of the past! Like burning and ripping DVD's. Most gamers wanna play games. Without all the hassle and BS of overclocking. The waste of electricity just for a boost in performance you need an AL to detect. Thanks for the advice kid I will stick with my 7800x3d.
Hobby of the past? Hardly. Super easy to do and some CPU are already unlocked. No need to cry too much.
@@TheT0nedudehobby of the past it's true. Less and less people want to overclock their cpus because of the costs implied. IT was a niche b4 now it's even more niche. Accept it cause it's a fact man.. people want plug n play .
Why the hell I want oc my machine and run up the electric bill and hear my fan screaming for small marginal increase plus it will stress out your machine lifespan.
I oc all my systems. They are silent and last as long as I need until I upgrade
@@ChamberTech Because everyone can afford to do the same?
@@ChamberTechwe really dont care how it worked for you, it matters how it work for us
@@ChamberTechlol, these new intel generations are failing using normal settings....i can't imagine you could overclock them much more without being very very very blesse in the silicon lottery
@@Max-fw3qy even at best silicon CPU, the architecture is over the point of tapping out due to clock speed saturation that intel is pushing with its own factory OC out the gate. Then you add in more OC by users and these CPUs are burning itself out in less than 2 years.
"a little bit" for him = 210 euros
Very "little" price increase
Awful take man... you should delete this video, its soo wrong. Ive overclocked 3 different 13900ks on a dual 480mm custom loop. I used the best 13900k of the 3 with 7200 m/t cl 34 ram and still it was losing to a 7800x3d 6000m/t cl30 kit in a cheap b650 board. Bad advice.
7200 is very slow. Get 8000 working and you’ll see the difference
@@ChamberTechall this for the 13900k to GRASP what the 7800x3d has going for it
exactly what is slow to you?
@@ChamberTechhe actively just said 7200 mhz ram was getting stomped by 6000 mhz ram don’t make tech videos if you don’t know what you are talking about
@@ChamberTechClownTech
"Good boy! You will get paid at the end of the month" sincerely yours, Intel. 🤦♂️
"1700 shekels have been deposited into your crypto wallet."
If you get a 7800X3D there's NO NEED to overclock it. It's as fast as fuck when it comes to gaming, and there isn't a CPU that beats it for gaming purposes at the time of me posting this.
how about getting the temps lower than stock without messing with overclock? I’ve looked into undervolting but I need better sources to inform myself on the topic specifically for the 7800X3D
@levilevi6159 Yup, I think that you can do that with PBO(?) in the BIOS 🤔
You'll get lower temperatures but at the expense of performance.
As long as you have a decent air or AIO cooler you won't need to cut the power down because it's unlikely to throttle.
But I'm not sure tbh, I'm not getting mine for another couple of months unfortunately.
Why not? Overclock the ram especially if it’s Hynix
B-but the 7950x3d gets 5-6 more fps…
-🤓
@@Frosty-dr8bs Theres no need to do so because it's that good.
Sure, I'll pay $200 on a maybe after tuning. That makes perfect sense 🤣🤣🤣. And the 13900k is on a dead platform. Bro. I need my 90 seconds back. Stick to legos🤣🤣🤣
Bro, you can't even form a coherent sentence never mind tune a CPU, stick to your dell OEM's you plebian.
The guy is brain dead man
😂
@@DominickDecocko the 7800x3d consume alot less than a non oc 13900k imagine in a oc 13900k
@@DominickDecocko get another copium canister buddy
terrible advice......7800x3d shits on 13900k and 14900k at like half the price and WAY more power efficient....try again
5% more fps 😢 shat on Jesus huge differences
@@TheBURBAN111 not just fps little man. Re-read my comment keyboard warrior.
@@TheBURBAN111”half the price and way more power efficient”
@@oskifv half the price would be under 300$ half the cores as well.. not denying its a great cpu tho :) just saying the difference isn't huge in actual fps i couldn't care about power usage.
@@TheBURBAN111 🤫
7800x3d, you can move the ratio right, but what about PBO2 and negative curve optimizer, hit 5.5ghz with -20 on mine. With so less power than the 13900k. Keep in mind.
Mine runs comfortably at 75c, 145 watts at 5.4 GHz on a last generation Noctua NH-D15 cooler. ORRR, I might hit 6.2ghz and pay an extra 40$ a month on the power bill and need a chiller to keep the damn thing from going critical…. Let me think for a second….
This video aged liked fine milk
7800X3D win for me !
Bro over clocking is not worth it
It 100% is (GPU, ram, cpu) in that order for gaming
But his statement is that a $700 mobo and $540 cpu beats a $350 cpu and $200 mobo
Like even if it does, that’s over 2x the cost 😂
@@Frosty-dr8bsIts not worth it. The performance increase is really small in gaming. I have done it for years.
Why bother for 2-3 fps ? Its just not worth it.
better undervolting...
@@almightybogza what nonsense? GPU can get you 7-10%, or like 15-20% if it’s a 6950xt with more power tool
Ram can give a20-30% boost to 1% and 0.1% lows.
Cpu is maybe 2-6%
@@almightybogza personal experience
PBO -2/3%
Ram OC - 6% for averages in some games, like 10-20% for 1% lows
GPU, ~10%, not able to ustoilize more power tool like other rdna2 gpus
“13900k wins” Just spend almost $1000 more. Terrible advice
That fanboy price tag
Umm actually the 7800x3d costs about 375 dollars and the 13900k costs about 600 dollars so the 7800x3d has 2 times more gaming perf at a fraction of the 13900k's price 🤓🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️
You don’t need fast ram with a 7800x3d. The extra cache makes sure you don’t need that. A 13900k pulls 200 watts more under load, that’s serious money with energy prices these days. If you don’t care at all about those 2 facts, then yeah get a 13900k. If you play CPU heavy games like Rust, or Anno 1800, and you play a lot of hours in one session, and don’t care about hardcore overclocking, then the 7800x3d is the best performance choice. Especially because DDR5 is now cheaper and you don’t need the fastest memory for this cpu.
Hello JVB I want to ask you please
i have a14700K wich need 140 watts while gaming (0.095) undervolt. have a 7800x3d needs 54 watts max in gaming both stable witch should i return?
If you have a 7800x3d, you don't need overclocking...
Id rather not have my room hit 85 degrees to gain 15fps 😂
Lol 😂
Another reason why this video aged like milk: He made a video titled "Stop Intel Instability" and proceeds to tell everyone to underclock and undervolt both 13th gen and 14th gen i9.
Intel fanboy detected,opinion rejected.
7800X3D beats the hell out of anything right now especially in poorly optimised games like tarkov.
Literally no reason to go intel here. Its also a lot more expensive and its a mini sun thermalwise..
Can I use overclocked rx 7800xt with a 7800x3d??
What colour is your 96mb l3 cache
what colour is your 24 cores??
@@RocketXE what color is your good price to performance??
How much is Intel paying you?
This is true, 13900k will outperform it if it’s tuned to the max, BUT, at a cost of a dead platform, and chugging 2-3x more power than AMD. I’m a former overclocker, but even I’m willing to admit, it ain’t worth it this generation.
In retrospect as of 5/2024, still a bad advice. Even 14700k or 14900k would not apply to this advice. 14900k(s) are killing themselves with the default power settings of motherboards just to get that slight edge to 7800x3d. AND there are reports on reddit for 14700k instability too but not widely reported nor even looked at by intel. As a 14700k owner, I hate what this industry has become many thanks to many youtubers that drive the benchmarking/performance metrics and intel not even admitting that their CPU by default is clocked to suicide.
oh sorry i gotta put some liquid nitrogen on my cpu💀
Definitely an Intel fanboy lol. The 7800x3D is one of the best CPUs in the market currently for a reason. Nothing can match it & especially if you pair it with the 7900 XTX, that is a killer combo
Even a 4090 can pair with the 7800x3d
Can you build it and run some tests?
Can you buy it for me 😀
@@ChamberTech bruh 💀
@@ChamberTechHahaha faking kiddo stop using RUclips pls
@@ChamberTechclowntech
we now officially found the new mayor of yappsville
shut up! best cpu ever, no need overcloking
Since 5800xd is cheaper its Way better. Not impressed
@@Bubuu66 ?
"Listen to my 2c opinion, when I know very little about tech"...
That's all I heard
This aged poorly
1:10 like:dislike ratio
Very nice.
Overclocking anything after 2020 is a giant scam. Do not listen to this person at all. Undervolting is what enthusiasts are doing nowadays. Have fun with using Intel's 300 watt CPUs with worse gaming performance than the 7800X3D's 100 watts when being used in games.
A 13900k isn’t using 300w in games dude. Also you clearly haven’t ever overclocked ram properly
@@ChamberTech Yoooooo he still dickriding Intel, lmao what a dwarf. Just admit you know nothing about CPUs.
@@ChamberTechyou clearly also have zero clue what you are talking about lol
You can do anything with the right BIOS, i seen it done, depending the games you play and what else you do with your computer and how long you plan to keep the build and if you want to be able to upgrade CPUs using the same Motherboard and system and if heat and power bill is a big deal, Intel especially large core high speed CPUs are hot snd use a TON of power, if you have a over clocked 13900K and a 3090 or highest end AMD GPU your power bill will be extra hundreds of dollars, my 3080FTW3 Ultra with 450w bios and a 5800X3D under volted .30 all cores so its great on power the GPU alone when used half the day or less 5 days a week cost me 100 dollars a month, if i had a even higher watt card some of the highest end AMD ans Nvidia GPUs go up to 800-1000+ watts when over clocked then add in a Intel high end super inefficient power usage CPU you could be looking at 300+ dolllars a month especially if you run all day and night for music while you sleep and anorher computer for streaming, we looking at 500+ dollars a month, ask the guys crypto mining especially in hot weather high power costing areas. My house gets hot running my 3080 at +120hz core ans 1200hz vram. My next build will be a AMD CPU the X3D variant and a fast and efficient GPU, if you dont like to mess with bios and over locking get a amd X3D chip, most you have to do if you want ia undervolt making it more efficient cooler and last longer and its easier and safer thsn over clocking, but you don't have to do anything in software or bios to get the posted speeds that you purchased it for, all other amd and Intel CPUs require you to go into bios or download software to overclock your CPU to get the speeds that are posted on the box ans commercials to sell them. My friends wont touch bios or software and could just use there last computer with the bios settings correct for ram ans CPU and would be as fast or faster than the new gen rig they built with out it being optimized correctly, if you dont turn on the Ram bios file for 3200mhz ram you will get 2133mhz ram or slower until you turn on the file for getting those speeds same with CPU speeds and if you want fast GPU buy the OC version of the GPU if you don't want to mess with files. But with a little tuning most people could get as much performance from the rig they have now as a generation newer rig thats stock like yours, best investment for fast computer is cooling for ypur CPU to keep the boost speeds higher longer, if you OC it without good cooling and correct fan curves you will get thernak throttling and crazy frame drop snd 1% .1% lows making it choppy and nastier than if you left it alone, besy way to compensate this is turn the fan curve to sit at 40% at all times and go up tp 100% if it goes above like 72 or where ever yours drops boost speeds lower due to temps. I run mine at 100% at all times when gaming, best performance and keeps your rig running smoother longer like your car's cooling. Best way ia to put your computer away from where you sit so you dont hear it and give it freah air mine sits by the window sucking in cool air and window across room open so it suck its more air vehins the computer abd expels across room gicing good air flow and make sure your computer has a positive case flow so it only sucks in air where th fans ask for it snd exit air everwhere else sp it doesnt suck air in where filters are not.
Why everyone had to do overclocking everyday?😅
Paid by intel?
Yeah lemme pay q extra 200 for 5 extra fps
im talking about GAMING, bc the 7800x3D is a gaming CPU (even tho its absolutely capable of production workloads as well ofc). on average 7800x3d is faster by a couple % up to well over 10%. sometimes they are about equally as fast and sometimes the 13900k/14900k (effectively same thing) is faster but if its faster, its usually by a small margin. @@travisgoodfella and Intel doesthis while consuming substantially more power which will mean more heat. also its not an apples to apples comparison to begin with bc they arent even close to the same price. and still - the 7800x3d often destroys the 13 or 14900k. thats insane for CPU that costs below 400€; the efficiency of the Ryzen CPUs is fucking awesome.
The RDNA GPUs from AMD sadly arent as efficient as Nvidia but when talking about CPUs, AMD is currently shitting on Intel big time.
the Hardware Unboxed benchmarks are very good, they test a ton of games. i would recommend various youtube channels BUT stay aways from those fake benchmark channel youtubers who always only show benchmarks but never their face. there are often irregularities, ppl suspect them just claiming to do benchmarks for clicks, but they write down the results of different stuff or simply pull it out of thin air and stuff like that.
I've had many issues with my 7800x3d, constantly having to remove the cmos, reseat the cpu and reapply thermal paste. Id say its a good cpu for the price and if you want to run it stock or with a PBO curve but if you want to overclock cores and ram speed then definitely intel would be the better option but for people saving money and running mostly stock the 7800x3d is a better choice.
Sure. Let me spend more money then dance around overclocking and maybe it will be as good as basic 7800x3d... Great advice
5% behind at stock vs a 13900k with 6000 ddr5… ain’t hard to close the gap at all lol
So bro is advising us to get a sun in our pc with 350w or power consumption that is gonna make our electricity bill more expensive than the actual pc, spending 400 more dollars on overclocking when the 7800x3d is already better than the 14900ks without overclocking and pretty much if you think about it not even water cooling or the top of the line AIO’s could cool this ‘13900k’ witch means we need to spend more money on an cpu cooler. When you can save all that money and maybe buy more ram, storage, a better gpu, better psu, better fans. When even a used air cooler can get temps like 20-30 degrees with cyberpunk.
What’s your point here man ? Let people buy what they want and don’t “sponsor” overhyped products to paralyze our pc.
Oh no. Ignorance.
Oh no, he doesn’t suck ride amd like me
@@DominickDecocko so just get something more expensive for overclocking for the sake of ocing? Sounds stupid.
This aged like milk on a hot summer day
This was an April Fools post I think u guys are getting mad 4 no reason he’s obviously joking 😂😂😂
I’m not kidding. My 13900k beats a 7800x3d
@@ChamberTech yikes then. Ryzen is just better here. Look through your own comments
@@ChamberTech you got paid for this... Just because you are a tech RUclipsr, doesn't mean you can fool anyone...
I am a nobody. Intel definitely didn’t pay me. I’ve said good and bad things about every tech company
@@ChamberTech where? reviewers have shown the 7800X3D beats the 13900k in performance, power draw and value.
This advice aged like cheddar cheese
What utter stupid advice
All that tuning to a 13900k and a stock 7800x3d still beats it bud…
Hahahaha😂😂😂😂
Burn more electricity and heat to make look fast your intel cpu.
Good lock to your water cooling.
Even linus cant cool that cpu.😅😅
Good luck on watercooling a 13900k? Oh you mean like everyone else is doing? It's not hard to achieve 57/45/50 or 58/44/49, I know, I've done so myself and whilst gaming it never even comes close to thermal throttling. Back to your hole.
If you care about power draw you’re broke. Also I can cool a 13900k just fine. Watch my videos on it. The issue is that Linus doesn’t know what he’s doing. Linus is entertainment not education.
@ChamberTech let it go dude. You sound silly😢😢😢
@@ChamberTech CunTech would have been more appropriate name.
@@ChamberTech So, you'll just waste energy and money for no reason other than you can afford it? A fool and his money...
This shit aged like milk
bro 8000mhz is a joke ? you need liquid nitrogen cooler to achieve that much frequency
No you don’t 😂 just a good 13900k and board
@@TheBURBAN111fanboy
@@TheBDPodcast ignorantboy... there are plenty ppl with 8000... even on the z690 unify.. look it up... hynix kits...
Please make that CPU optimization video! I recently got back into the PC world and discovered your videos. Enjoy your content and just subscribed. I have all the parts to put my new build together, which includes the i7-14700k. I heard these cpus run hot, so I bought a 360 mm AIO and plan on running a baseline to see if it thermal throttles. If it does, I'm gonna give undervolting a shot and see if performance increases. Might even try to overclock with the undervolt. Will watch the video when you release it to see if there's anything else I can do. Cheers mate!
Join the discord bro!
dude sounds like that guy at the pub trying to explain to a girl why his car is faster than her mans, No it isnt bro, and yes you are wrong!
Overclocker know more about CPU knowledge, no need to reminder them. They fine.
Me 2 years later who wants to upgrade with ded lga1700 socket :
13900k beats amd once u spend 4x the money LOL. Need a bigger power supply more expensive motherboard more expensive ram. U need to have knowledge of memory overclocking, CPU overclocking, bios tweaks, windows tweaks just to get 15% more performance than a stock 7800x3D wowwweeww😂 great advice.
Same opinion
Not great advice tbh, especially considering that z790 is a dying platform.
And all that will give you 3 more fps in a single game player, and tones of instability
99% fail rate on the Intel processors btw
Yeap and if u went 13900k it's going to fail and crash on u. This aged well😅
Make a video telling me you don’t understand the cpu without telling me you dont understand the cpu.
Dude: hold my beer
Overclocking is becoming more and more obsolete. DO NOT listen to this guy. 7800X3D is a very efficient CPU. The Intel CPUs run very hot!
Aged like fine Milk
I just got the 7800x3d at microcenter with a bundle deal. It came with a motherboard and 32 gigs of DDR5 ram, all fir 499. Better than spending alot more for intel and all I do is game just like most people watching
This is why you should not watch random people on social media who claim to be authorities on a subject
And u also get to own a nice and compact space heater.... Delete this guy pls
He said: don't buy a rolls royce for 500k guys, if you spend 3.2 million bucks, you can just get a bugatti, which is faster
Day to day average gamers don’t oc and tinker with pushing things to the limit …
Keep that in mind
What if I’m currently running a 1650 and a i3 9100F then should I get a 7800x3D with 7900XTX?
Ofc that will be better
Bro I’ve got the same setup it’s amazing also don’t listen to this ass utuber
Well, this aged poorly. ROFL. No oxidation issues with my 7800X3D.
I don't think that this short aged that well
Why do I need to overclock when it's already powerful?
Omg i know this is old but this is a horrendous take hahaha
I mean who is buying Ryzen with the sole purpose to overclock this generation? The extra heatspreader height has made it much harder to see huge gains
The additional cost, power draw and thermal output of the 13990k really make it unattractive. Given it's hard to cool it under normal boost I'm not sure who is overclocking the thing.
In the comments of the short, you said you were actually going to compare it to a 13900k, not a 14900ks 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Overclocking the 13700K so it degrades faster giving you a good excuse to buy the 7800X3D is a great idea.
This didn’t age well
He doesn’t pay the power bills he’s still in his parents basement😂
i have a 7800x3d and a 14900KS now. I still use the intel pc
"you might even get better gaming performance". He says that comparing it to the fastest GAMING cpu ever made
You don't overclock a 7800x3d. You UNDERVOLT it. For more performance AND less heat
This not only aged poorly, but if it isn't trolling it is just plain sad.
There is no Intel processor that beats the X3D in gaming…… unless you overclock by a good margin and most users do not overclock…..
aged like milk, 13 and 14 intels are a burning trash can literally
If your an overclocked you also know it may need undercoating to see more performance like most modern chips
Dont even mention those unstabile trash cpus ☠️ 13 and 14900k are garbage
Wait so don't buy the 7800x 3D. If you're an overclocker, buy another CPU overclock it and still lose to it?
13900k plus a whole custom loop, meanwhile my friends 7800x3d 7900xtx build (im to broke for that) literally only has a 240 mm radiator from corsair, he said its just for asthetics and im pretty sure it can even run with an aircooler
who wants a broken cpu