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Did I Just Buy the Best BASS EVER..? And SHORTSCALE ?!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Ibanez Mikro Bass GSRM20B Shortscale in walnut finish. Some problems at first but then it all went well in the end ! definitely one of the best bass out there. EDIT 2021 : You can see it in action in my latest video : • Video
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Unboxing, close up shots, tone test, pot test... I'll give you my honest opinion of this instrument in this review !
I know how hard it can be to choose a new instrument from the internet, wich is often the case these days with the entry level. We see amazing deals online and we just WANT IT. But is it always a good idea, let's find out !
Want dope music in CD quality? You can check out my music on Bandcamp :
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00:00 Introduction
00:35 Unboxing
01:32 First Impressions
02:07 Little Clean Up !
02:54 Tone Test
03:50 Pot Test
04:26 Personal Toughts and Review
07:21 Sending it Back...
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Bass : Ibanez Mikro Bass GSRM20B
Microphone : ZOOM H4n Pro
SoundCard : Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD
Computer : Thinkpad P52
Edited with Davinci Resolve
Make sure you check out this bass in my latest song "Cosmic Trance" :
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I bought one not reading the description properly. I wanted a full length bass, this was a hell of a happy accident. I can't put it down.
Haha that's hilarious ! Plans from the gods 😅
I strongly feel these sound better than regular scale sound gears.
The bass world has adopted this literal nonsense that short scale basses are for beginners or small people - scale length is like anything else, you get different tones from different scale lengths.
I feel there's something about this design that lends itself better to a shorter scale length.
No way! The same thing happened to me lol, but I kept it for a year, then sold it and bought a Schecter Stiletto Studio 5 Satin Black and it is AWESOME!!
Loving the Bob Ross reference js 😆
Awww how cute!
I’m a lifelong pro player and I now own 4 of these Ibanez Mikro bass’s, two 4 string models and two 5 string models.
I use my Mikro bass’s for everything, paying gigs and rehearsals.
My large collection of very nice, very expensive, regular long scale bass’s have been collecting lots of dust over the last year or more, they are ALL getting sold soon.
I’ve totally switched over to these Mikro short scale bass’s and don’t miss my long scale bass’s one bit.
Great video by the way.
Cheers, Davyo
Hello. Can i ask why would you need to have two same guitars?
@@Elizabeth_Postol I have 2 of the same of all my bass’s, two 5 string Mikro’s, two 4 string Mikro’s and two Music Man 4 string short scale bass’s.
The main reason I have multiple of the same bass’s is one bass will be for rehearsals and the other for live paying gigs.
The strings on my rehearsal bass’s tend to sound dull and lifeless after extended playing but that doesn’t really matter when I’m just using my rehearsal bass’s for rehearsals.
The bass’s I use for live shows only get used for live shows hence the strings always sound bright and crispy.
On a side note, all my 4 string bass’s are setup with BEAD strings/tuning, I definitely love that Low B string sound and especially love the slimmer neck profile of a 4 string bass as opposed to the wider neck profile of a 5 string bass.
Hope all that made sense and I don’t sound to insane (lol)
Worst Band In Town on FB if ya wanna check videos of my Music Man short scale BEAD setup bass’s.
Davyo
@@BassedInVegas just awaiting delivery of one of these for my partner, should be perfect for her tiny hands, ordered some rotosound flatwound strings to put on too, at the advice of others due to the poor quality strings it comes with. One thing though.. we'd like tune it down to C, do you think this feasible?
@@simonrobson7476 should be ok to do, I made my Mikro bass a BEAD bass as I do with all my 4 string bass’s. I buy the Super Bright Stainless Steel short scale Dunlop 5 string sets and the throw the G strings in the garbage can. My low B is a 125 and not floppy at all.
@@BassedInVegas nice one , thanks! We'll give some a go
Nice job, I have the same bass and this is exactly how it sounds. Not just a good bass for the money, it's a good bass period!
Agreed !
Dude, the fact that you’re covering the tool songs that are my reason for looking this bass up is awesome. I’m taking it as a sign to go ahead and buy it!!
I own an identical Ibanez Mikro and I love it! I also own a 5 string Mikro which I also love playing.
In truth I own a lot of basses and I have been playing since the late '80's but since buying my Ibanez Mikro 4 and 5 string basses those are the only ones I play anymore and I play them every day.
Ibanez hit one out of the ballpark with the development of the Mikro series. I can't recommend them highly enough, these basses are awesome!
If you are going to play Tool in a review your are getting a like! Sounds great dude. Loved the cutting between microphones, cuts like that actually lets you hear the different sounds quickly enough. Sound memory is super short. Cheers
Glad there are so many fella tool fans out here 👍 thank you for your support it means a lot to me !
Heck yes. When he started playing I was like 🙌🏼👍🏻❤️
I just ordered mine today in the same colour. Can't wait for delivery. Great video btw.
Nice, let us know your thoughts once you get it ! Thank's man, hope to see you again on the channel.
I love the ease of play in a short scale. For me it is worth some sacrifice sonically to be able to play quickly and with ease for long periods of time. In short scale with that lesser tension you are losing some of the tightness in the lows/mid that a full scale has but I think that will change with developments in bass design and string gauge.
i have i have a feeling you like tool
I must admit the basslines of this band are just blissfull to me
I’m a guitar player that wanted something to play bass on a looper and I’m pretty happy with mine, got it practically brand new at a pawn shop for $75 and couldn’t ask for more really, I’m not a a bass player but they seem like good instruments to me for the money, and no problem dropping 3 steps down...
It seems there are so many of them in those shops ! I feel that because of their low price and little size, their the perfect gift for youngsters who end up selling it a few weeks by lack of motivation.. too bad for them, good for us !
Thank you for this. I'm currently waiting for FedEx to deliver this exact model and color, and it was a joy to watch you unwrap and admire your new Bass. Now I really can't wait!
Thank you!! I'm so excited. Mine is coming today. I look forward to getting off work and playing this afternoon!
I bought the same bass and gave it to my nephew after I bought a full size Ibanez 400E, then an expensive Ibanez Affirma. However, now I just ordered the Mikro again because it was just so damn much fun. I'm also not very big, so helps with left shoulder pain from reaching . At the time I didn't realize how good a guitar it was. I didn't have intonation or fret issues, but since I make guitars, I have all the stuff to file them flat and do the work if necessary.
Been wanting a bass to play some Tool (I'm a guitar player) and I've been looking at this bass. I was wondering "how would Schism sound?" and you answered that for me!
I have this one in red... the Ibanez miKro GSRM20 Bass... and it's beautiful and sounds so good! I have short arms, small fingers, and I didn't wanna have to crawl all over it to play. When I learned about this model and then heard it played compared to other basses, it was a must-have!
TOOL!!! ❤️❤️❤️🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
🤟😌
I have a mid-70s version of a Greco reproduction of a Rickenbacker. Solid bass, but it weighs a ton. Plus having small hands a short-scale sounds great.
Great, are you gonna go with the ibanez or you have another model in mind ?
"Vardar's Falcon (ft.Bajla Gold)" on your BandCamp page is brilliant. Most creative piece of music with power and such excellent flow I've heard in some time. Thank you for sharing!!
Can't wait to hear more. Peace. (Going to check out "Cosmic Trance" ) :-)
Thank's man I really appreciate it. I'm struggling to reach an audience with it even tho I believe it's a great song.
PS the fretboard is definitely not rosewood. Its treated New Zealand pine.
Thats if yours is identical to mine and it seems to be.
EDIT; for anyone interested in a side by side comparison of rosewood and New Zealand Pine, check out my account on Imgbb.
Account name: Cheburek_hehe
Oh great thanks for your input ! Looks so similar it's hard to tell
@@QuentinDamour ^^
It's definitely advertised as rosewood, but I don't know much about wood so dunno.
Mine is definitely rosewood way too hard to be any type of pine
@@QuentinDamour since then Ive learned that some of these have been rosewood and some have been treated New Zealand pine (like mine).
I have the full scale version of that bass, it really is a bang for your buck. Never thought about going short scale with it...hmmm
I have one of these Ibanez Mikro Short scales ( I have mine strung with Dunlop 40/100 Flatwounds it sounds epic) They are killer basses for the money.
Bought one just now...thank you man, great review.
Thank's man i'm glad you appreciate the content !
@@QuentinDamour I've had the bass now for 2 days. It's super light, beautiful, and plays amazing right out of the box. I ordered a Fender HSS strat too wanting the bass just for recording but I cant keep my hands off the bass...Ibanez has never failed me...that bass is just another example of the quality of Ibanez.
@@storm3380 Hey that's amazing man, enjoy !
I bought one about the same time you did, same colour too. I had many of the same issues, like the dust and the intonation problems. The dealer was not very customer friendly, which left me stuck with it. After a lot of struggling with it, I got it pretty close to being right now (this evening) and I think I maybe able to get it bang on with a little more effort. It's been a rather harrowing purchase for me as I was a total guitar newbie. I've learned a lot by now, so that is a positive. Not sure I'd go with this brand again though, because they let it out of the factory in that condition, and that does not seem professional to me. However I like it plenty because I have a lot of TLC time invested in it, and learned so much. I might get some flat wound strings if I can get a mortgage one day; a modest set is nearly 1/6th of the cost of the guitar and the more exotic ones can be approaching 1/3rd to 1/2 of the guitar's cost. Crazy proposition that is. Enjoyed your video a lot, it gave me some insight into owning one that I could not have otherwise have known. Thanks for that. Be well.
Thanks for your insightful comment.
Yeah I wish they would just up the price a little and offer better finish and quality control. Especially since it's aimed at beginners.
I still haven't changed the strings on mine either for that reason 😅 I'm not playing it so much at the moment but if i come back to it i'll invest in some strings for sure, it will probably make a big difference... Some new electronic could be a big step up as well...
This was a great very thorough and fair review. Thank you!
Thank's man I appreciate it
Great review!! One thing about short scales, 31 inches or less, is that there is much less string tension. Even more so in this case with the Ibanez being 28 inches. I would not recommend drop tunings with this instrument because even if you can get the low e string down to d it will be way to muddy and undefined. You could probably get away with E flat but that is where I would stop. Nice playing bud
Don Nix I see comments like these all the time. Have you considered thicker strings? That should compensate. String tension, if I’m correct on this, is a product of scale length, string gauge, and desired frequency. So, if scale length decreases, you simply increase string gauge.
Taylor Pearcy Certainly is something worth trying. I recently picked up a short scale jaguar bass from fender/squier and it is a nice guitar. I find it however easier to play 34 inch scale bass guitars just from learning to play on a full scale p bass.
The e string is already at its limit with this shortscale and the strings with which it is delivered. Drop Tunings will definitely not be possible.
Moskito H yea, 28.6 is pretty damn short. I’m thinkin about getting an Ibanez Mezzo, at 32 inches you probably shouldn’t have toooo much of a tension issue, and I’d be very interested to see if there’s any significant difference in playability compared to my 35 scale ESP
@@taylorpearcy319 From point of view of playability I like my shortscales, from point of view of sound the regular size. The nice thing with this bass is that I could fit it into a guitar bag for taking with me.
I just bought this bass (purple) and a Fender Rumble 100v amp. Great combo for a guitarist that wants to add bass. Or anyone.
Would love a purple satin finish !
Buying one in a couple of days...along with amp and strap....thanks for the review
Let us know how you like it !
This is the review that I was looking for. Great great video man thank you, you helped me a lot to make a decision ! You really tested that bass like it should be !
Je viens d’en acheter la mienne aujourd’hui en finition « métallique root-beer ». Merci pour cette vidéo, je recherchais des avis sur cette petite Ibanez. J’ai essayé jouer de la guitare basse il y a 20 ans mais mon ancienne basse était trop grande pour mes petites mains de fille et je l’ai abandonnée. J’en reviens avec joie, merci encore ! Ton anglais est parfait, d’ailleurs, Cheers, Mec !
Question to anybody who can answer: the split coil on this bass has the upper half closer to the bridge, but my Cort Action PJ has the upper half closer to the neck. I see variation between brands and models. Doesn’t the configuration affect the tone or the sensitivity?
If you want drop D tunnings on a short scale, Ibanez has a 5 string MiKro bass also!
Yes you're right ! strange I never saw it anywhere or even mentioned when i was doing my research, very curious to try it some day...
5 string or drop tunings with shortscale do not work good together. Deeper tones will sound much less brilliant.
Already with this bass, exchanging strings can give you better sounds on e string.
I do own the 5 string version!! sounds super!! I'm in love with it!
I have a 4 and 5 string, upgraded the 4 pickups to Alan Entwhistle's, and use it for all recording, the stock pickups weren't bad themselves, they'll be used on another bass.
I just bought one, it's Great. Mine is transparent red. Ibanez GSRM20 Mikro Bass.
Cool! What amp do you use? Im planning on buying one of these basses plus an amp
Thanks for the useful review man! Watched lots of reviews about this specific Ibanez yours is the best which helped me to decide . Can't wait to order it! Thanks again!
Haha, I'm actually looking to buy this bass to as a Tool fan, so great to hear you play some Justin riffs on it, this is exactly what I wanted to hear! Cheers!
I got one and didn't get on very well with it atall. And that's considering I am mainly a guitar player, not really a bassist.
Ended up getting a full size Sire Jazz bass and am getting on with it a lot better- even though it is a lot bigger and heavier.
I share the sentiment on the satin finish. Polyurethane finishes look great on the wall but to play with day to day, big nah. They just feel nasty and get super fingerprinted
I wonder if it's to keep the costs down or just bad choices from the brands...
So cool the way u start with that part of The pot man. Its also one of my favourites songs btw xd
It's always exciting to open a new guitar box...
I have this brass pick guard we cut for a red version of this a few years ago but would amazing on the walnut so I’m picking one up
Definitely a Tool fan. :) You have good taste in music so I'll trust your honest opinion. Thanks for sharing!
I bought one of these a little while back and I love it. I got tired of killing my back every time I took my GSR206 out with me. It sounds great for what it is. I take it with me to be able to practice on my breaks at work and stuff. Great travel bass, especially if you own more expensive instruments that you dont want to get banged up. I mean I carry it my heavily padded Gator Case gig bag anyway, but still. It’s a good cheap bass. Mine is the Metallic Rootbeer.
That jaded LowEndLobster guy would have knocked off a few points for some of the issues you encountered: knobs that work like on/ off switches and implied QC issues at the factory - with regard to the blemishes and the intonation/ set up problems that had you returning it to be replaced with another one. It sounds like it worked out though and this may be the bass for me also; but I clearly have to keep open the option to be able to return a faulty instrument.
Thanks for the review. I might expect that I couldn’t play Slipknot or Drowning Pool on it, but for rock or classic rock that good enough. +, it looks good . Again, thanks for the detailed description.
Lmao, trying to learn Schism on my wife's bass and thinking of buying my own. The fact that you played the riff may be a sign...
I bought the Ibanez Mikro Bass this year, and it's great for the price 👌
I have one for years. I love mine, even used it on gigs. The strings still sound like they are brand new. Who makes these strings for Ibanez?
Good review. Thanks. Great job done.
We got a fellow tool fan here haha
Bought one as my very first Bass - I'm a happy chap :)
Came in rough shape must have got it from guitar center.
Do you still have this bass? If so, do you still recommend this bass?
Hi, yes i do and yes it's still a good pick in my opinion
@@QuentinDamour Thanks for the help! Love your other video where you are using this bass👌🎶❤
@@QuentinDamour would it be worth the extra $100 to get a sterling by music man sub series over this? I’m torn
I love these. The five string version is great as well!
I just bought the same one today...I love her.
Good choice of songs, my guy!
I absolutely LOVE my son's Mikro! Plays great, sounds great..... I actually might drop some Quarter Pounders in it
Thank you for sharing this! Awesome music too!
How is the low F and F#? I have two of the full scale versions and I literally had to file the 2nd and 3 frets cause they wouldn't play regardless of truss rod adjustments and saddle height.
dont you have fret friction noise when you play? I have the exact same bass, it feels great, but that fret friction noise annoys me so much
I love my Mikro Bass. Got mine in pink about 5 years ago. I would buy another one.
Those are nice little basses, Quentin. Also, very affordable.
For sure, i like cheap that works 👍 as much as i love artisanal local handmade beauty, That's the positive aspect of those multinational china guitars..
This looks exactly like my JS 23 walnut finish Jackson bass, just a different brand is all.
Yeah I saw that the Jackson Minion looks pretty much the same as this one. Better bridge on the Jackson's I've heard.
Your playing is sick and your video is awesome. Quality is insane. I really enjoyed your perspective.
Thank's man I appreciate it !
The only real way to improve on this bass is to practice;) I put some flat wounds on my daughter’s bass and it plays like butter now.
Howdy, I was formerly using SR bass then went for BTB 35" for tone and i guess i cannot get into it... also thinking about shortscale for deep bottom sound and similarity with guitar. From the video, is it me or your strings are pretty high action. I think it should be about 2,5mm for E at 24 fret or less if picking up lightly and 2 mm or less on treble side. Thanks for the review tho. For the money it seems to be pretty steal (even with a tuners and bridge update in future) and still cheaper than a Squier SS used here...
I just checked and the action is 4mm and 3mm at the 22 fret so I think it could definitely benefit from a little setup for sure but overall very playable still.
I haven't tried the Squier but from what i know of their cheap strat i wouldn't go down that road...
Thank's for your input !
@@QuentinDamour At worst, your notes are clean as they can be without any buzz and sustains forever. :)
Is the bass in the review the Walnut finish because the colour in the video looks deep red, I thought Walnut was dark brown?
It has a slight red hue but it's definitely walnut brown in real life
Just got one too. Very surprised.
Well done test drive. No bullsh**. Just the info wanted👍
Bonjour Quentin,
Merci pour cette superbe vidéo. Dommage,
Je n'ai pas tout compris en raison de mon niveau d'anglais... Combien pèse cette basse ?
Environ 3 kg, plutôt légère.
Merci !
I have one of these. Actually was pleasantly surprised with the quality and tone. Especially for the price.
Thanks for the review. It helps !
Happy to hear that !
Will standard tuning make the strings floppy on such a short scale?
Standard is alright 👍
Is this recommended for a serious playing? I'm starting a band with my good buddies, and we agreed to take things seriously. The bassist is a guitarist-turn-to-bassist who struggled to reach the frets of a bass.. Will this be good & okay for gigging (or even professional use) after component upgrades?
Definitly, already usable out of the box in most cases, but if you have extra budget I would upgrade in this order : First change the electronics, then strings, then the pickups, then have a setup done by a professional.
Awesome review...thanks man
Hi Quentin. I just SUBSCRIBED to the channel. I'm a beginner bassist and I just purchased this bass. How difficult is it to replace the POTS for this guitar? Thanks.
Hi Richard, welcome to my channel.
I didn't change the pots on the bass yet but i assume it's like any other, there is plenty of tutorials on youtube i'm sure you'll find what you're looking for :)
If you know how to solder, it is not such a big issue. Just check, that the new one matches. I am planing to exchange mine, can post the used one afterwards.
You had me at TOOL...ha ha!
I wanted to buy this, watched several youtube videos saying its better change the tuner to gotoh for better play. What doyou think?
If you have the budget, sure why not. Not absolutely essential to me. I would upgrade in this order : 1- electronics 2-strings 3-tuners 4-pickups
Nice taste in music my man.
Also in case anyone's wondering:
The two songs he played are
Tool- the pot
And
Tool- schism
Both great begginer songs.
I bought this bass partly on the basis of this video. I restrung it with lighter string, it’s awesome. Helps my tiny hands 😅
Thank you so much for this review, you convinced me to buy it! What amp are you using??
straight in the soundcard for me, no amp.
Bro really got me playing schism
Late comment but thicker strings makes the vibration go away on lower tuning!
Good to know !
Good review man , thanks!
You're very welcome mate, thank's for the comment !
I am contemplating this guitar, decided to check reviews. Then I saw your review video title name, and I immediately started biting my nails 😭
Don't worry about it, short nails is way better to play bass 👍😏
i ordered my purple!! but can you do a video playing this without amp!
I like the purple look ! They should do it with maple fingerboard it would look awesome. Well i wouldnt recommend anyone to play this without an amp to be honest. If the sound is a problem i would try to hook it up to an amp with headphone output or to a computer 👍 let us know what you think of your bass once it's there 🙂
I just ordered mine on Amazon lol lol 😂 I can’t wait to get it in my hands 🙌
Good review Brother thank you
I just ordered an Ibanez Mikro Bass GSRM20 however mine doesn't have the B at the end. Is there any difference?
For anyone else wondering the same as me and the person above me: the B at the end of the name stands for Black (as in: with black hardware instead of chrome)
Any string recommendations? I was thinking about DR Hi-Beams since I can't find any Ernie Ball short scale strings.
I really don't know anything about bass strings, maybe someone else can answer your question. I usually go with D'addario EXL for guitar and I'm always happy
@@QuentinDamour Ok, thanks man!
What did you rub over the strings.?. .after you applied the lemon oil. I ordered the same model/colour today.
What was it then ?
Some GHS Fast Fret, using it since i started guitar years ago, could never go back ! Highly recommend it 👍 🙂 let us know if you're happy with your purchase, cheers !
I collect basses, I have 32 presently. I have had my MICRO BASS for years. Mine is glossy black with a maple neck and fretboard. I have used this axe on gigs! The strings sound as fresh and springy as they did when I first got it years ago. The sounds I get out of it is amazing. I love short scale.
Dudes accent is legit!!1!
Quel est le produit que tu as mis pour nettoyer la saleté? Au citron...
Merci
Dunlop Lemon Oil après avoir nettoyé avec dunlop 6502 "clean and prep"
Hello! I want to start playing bass. Do you think a short scale is a good option? I am an adult, normal hands, 1'72 height. I like rock and funky
Thank you!
I think it's the best way to go about it. Just make sure it's setup correctly so it's even smoother to play. It cost a bit of money but I believe it makes the difference for new players 👍
@@QuentinDamour thanks!
I am trying to start playing the bass and am a bit smaller, do you think this would be suitable for a beginner?
Definitely. Just keep in mind that one of the most important thing is to have it set up properly to be easy to play. If you have some money aside for a Luthier check and maybe swap the pots and jack input for higher end you'll have a very solid frustration-free instrument that will last you years.
@@QuentinDamour tysm!
Which model is this one?
Would you buy this bass as your first ever guitar of any kind?
Cool que tu fasses un test de cette basse qui à l'air bien sympathique, moins que tu le fasses en anglais (je pige mais quand t'es français, ça accroche les oreilles l'accent !!!!) Tout ça pour les vues....beurk!
I got the same bass 2 months ago and it's awesome.
What amp do you use? I'm planning to get this bass plus an amp to start out on playing bass but I don't know which amp i should get with it