Or Kiri to some extent. With Kiri you want some pre-healing on mid range teammates because it will take a while for the healing to reach, but on Moira her heal is almost instantanious so you can do more just in time healing.
People have to realize that Moira is LITERALLY a take and give support. Her orbs are literally the key element to helping the team survive while she damages to get more heals! It’s a combination of things.
I love that aspect of her cuz it feels like hyper intelligent to dmg orb while healing or heal orbing while damaging lmao or the biggest brain move, ulting to initiate and your tank actually goes in. Scrumptious
@@nailinthefashion if you know how to play as Moira, your tanks will literally push because if the enemy sees that health bar not go down, they’ll back up real quick. Sometimes it’s not about just damage orb and bionic grasp. I’ll be healing while my damage orb is chasing to keep my heals going a bit longer. It’s simple… sometimes😂😂😂😂
Redundancy on heals. Your healing was probably crazy high, but that's not going to swing fights. It's ok for your other supports to get some healing done as well.
Another bad habit I noticed is floor orbing in the open. ONLY IN HALLWAYS BUD! WHY THROW THE ORB AWAY WHEN YOU CAN BOUNCE IT HORIZONTALLY RAWRRRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRRR BARKBARK
I think they're using healing orb because they feel like they're falling behind on healing, but when you don't use damage orb you're losing more value from your main heal because it's not getting recharged so you're starving yourself. Especially when you use a healing orb when your team is 90% full. The Lucio should take care of that while you're getting your resources back. If you had full healing recourses then I could see going for the healing orb on 90% health teammates.
Yep which is why I was surprised. Why pick a limited healer when you think ur falling behind on heals?? Feels like they are working against themselves.
As a Moira/Ana/Mercy main, this kinda hurt to watch. I was yelling in my head "DO SOME DMG" nearly the whole time. Way to passive and so it was hard to keep up those heals in critical situations. Throwing a healing orb, still healing and they don't even receive that much dmg. So orb would've been enough and you could get in some dmg to fill up your heals. Sometimes I struggle too. Especially if enemies play poke and noones diving and just getting shot at (and you can't really go in by yourself, so I mostly just switch off Moira). Also: Your teammates don't need full hp, they just need to live long enough to win the fights, so peppering those heals all the time isn't really necessary - you have another support who can heal some dmg. If you're sure you could kill of 2 or maybe even 3 low hp targets - let a mate die. Don't just throw in every heal resource you have if you know they will die either way and you can't get anything out from it.
I don't think they improved at all. Moira is super easy to climb out of the metal ranks because most of the enemy players don't know what to do with her
Except this is in diamond where people don't miss 6 shots in a row on a moira. They max 3tap you if you mess up. Time to kill in diamond is much faster then it is in metal ranks and that's also why the rightclick self healing combo with damage is less likely to help the moira outsustain the dps.
its crazy to me that this is how a lot of my silver 3-4 moira games look (except i mainly throw damage orbs to recharge, only throw healing if im low or if someone is really really low and needs it) how do i get out of silver.....
Going from not healing to healbotting, talk about bouncing from one extreme to another. But at the same time, I also feel kinda bad, he/she is likely doing this because improper advices or better yet, demands given by teammates who yells at them for heals
Predictions. They’re gonna be, super pro, time for some masters support gameplay. Edit 1. REIN ON KINGS ROW Edit 2. That was a cleanse Edit 3. That was a cleanse Edit 4. That was a cleanse Edit 5. Winston? Edit 6. Never-mind, good pick Edit 7. Squish Edit 8. Tank’s playing mystery heroes? Edit 9. That was a fade Edit 10. That was a fade Edit 11. And Hog thought this was Overwatch 1 Edit 12. Jesus Christ onto Queen now Edit 13. Alright, onto Zarya. Have they gotten an ultimate this game? Edit 14. It was for movement and I get it, but that was a fade Edit 15. Good ult Edit 16. You avoided the ult, good use of fade… But your tank lives on full charge there so not sure why you faded *away* from the team Edit 17. You’re using cleanse like it’s a healing orb on Moria and fade like its swift step. There’s some overlap in their use case, but not that much. These are your “get out of jail free cards” and you’re using them like they’re candy. CD management is definitely the main thing here Edit 18. Yeah so you know how mercy doesn’t want to yellow beam a full hp target unless they’re definitely going to take some damage, you don’t either. You got the feather idea down pact but yeah. Edit 19. I almost don’t even want to talk about this because the CD management is way more important than this and focus on one thing at a time, but the heroes you’re playing can play off angles and at some point you’re gonna wanna do that but it’s King’s row so meh Edit 20: Tank’s done playing mystery heroes, definitely settled into the comp Edit 21: Okay that was a healing orb Edit 22: Okay when I said not to use cleanse like healing orb I didn’t mean healing orb was something you use off cooldown, you’re not ult farming and if you were damage orb in that scenario. Edit 23. That… Was a healing orb. Okay so we’ve stopped the random fades now it’s healing orb. Edit 24. The coals have left much to be desired as well, you either coal Mei ult instantly or let Lucio beat, the delay is make or break Edit 25. That was a fade Edit 26. Actually good heal orb timing, wrong direction though so I can tell that was an accident Edit 27. The delay. Is make or break, you either fade in press Q or don’t, team fight was won by the time you did that. Edit 28. That was a healing orb Edit 29. You were not in the ult, that was a fade. Edit 30. Much more decisive coal, even though blizzard got eaten that was probably the best timed ultimate Edit 31. Probably mid Diamond, like Diamond 3 also Emongg is definitely being generous to your Kiriko, you used cleanse like it was a 6th Ofuda. Edit 32. Eh I was one rank off, I’m taking the W on this one. Use your cleanse less, fade less as well. Even healing orb was too much and that’s an ability you can be very lenient with.
Yeah I get that this player is just playing Moira to play Moira. It's okay to have heroes you don't vibe with and only play when needed (and therefore don't get the nuance of some stuff) but Moira is like, smooth brain levels of understanding of the mechanics and how's why's - the part of her that actually drops off if you don't love and understand her isn't whether to use a damage orb or a heal orb it's stuff like when can I play flankra, when can I fade into the enemy supports and kill them safely, that sort of thing.
With all due respect, can you curate these to show actual improvement? I'd much rather see a gold player go up to diamond than a guy being in the exact same spot they were five months ago. I think it's more beneficial to show that your reviews were helpful in improving their gameplay so that they can climb efficiently.
It's not really on Emongg if the people he vod reviews don't actually end up improving. In this case this player went from one end of the spectrum (not healing enough) to the opposite end of the spectrum (healing way too much). He gives good advice but he can't make people listen to it 🤷🏻♀️
It's literally 'where are they now' if it was only better every time it would be disingenuous. With all due respect (which is none) this is a weird asf comment.
Bro was healing his demons
Didn't the ranked system get reset and become harder? So hasn't this person actually improved?
Demons need to live too
@mr.parker8014 Slightly yes they've improved enough to stay on the same rank
lol golden shower on the dying wall
Healing full hp targets, this guy plays moira like she was Lifeweaver
Or Kiri to some extent. With Kiri you want some pre-healing on mid range teammates because it will take a while for the healing to reach, but on Moira her heal is almost instantanious so you can do more just in time healing.
@@TheDuzxwith Moira you can literally tap them as they engage to curve the dmg too so I love spraying, then sucking, then spraying, then SUCKIN
To most moiras’ “where tf is the healing?”
To this Moira, “please stop healing!!”😂
“Please, god, DPS MOIRA JUST A WITTO”
People have to realize that Moira is LITERALLY a take and give support. Her orbs are literally the key element to helping the team survive while she damages to get more heals! It’s a combination of things.
I love that aspect of her cuz it feels like hyper intelligent to dmg orb while healing or heal orbing while damaging lmao or the biggest brain move, ulting to initiate and your tank actually goes in. Scrumptious
@@nailinthefashion if you know how to play as Moira, your tanks will literally push because if the enemy sees that health bar not go down, they’ll back up real quick. Sometimes it’s not about just damage orb and bionic grasp.
I’ll be healing while my damage orb is chasing to keep my heals going a bit longer.
It’s simple… sometimes😂😂😂😂
Na it's her movement.
Ay flashbacks to the times the orb didn't give resources 🥲
lmao the hog hook - that was hilarious because you were calling him out on it and he just nukes himself.
i mean if they were on mercy before, this season everyone is "forced" to moira so guess they just didn't know about damage orb recharge
Man I remember a bit over 6 months ago I found Emogg's Bingo video and it made me wanna play OW... love the tips and critique in spectates as always.
Who do you play
@@vibecheck8420 some tank or support, DPS sucks lol
@@HereComesCats oh nice
@@vibecheck8420 i have a feeling you play dps? some ashe perhaps?
@HereComesCats nah I mostly play bap. I do enjoy cassidy though. You?
Why do people forget that you can charge your moira heals by just taping the right click instead of holding it
Facts
These are the type of supports I get.. bro was healing the walls more than his teammates..
Even the enemies are getting healed
14:12 it hurts to see it but I know I be doing that sometimes too
Hmmm, I saw him healing his teammates, maybe OVER-healing them
Saying this makes me think you are the problem
The amount of healing I saw pissed me off.
Redundancy on heals. Your healing was probably crazy high, but that's not going to swing fights. It's ok for your other supports to get some healing done as well.
ALRIGHT SO?
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Lmao yall are great
I love emonggs comment section sometimes
Another bad habit I noticed is floor orbing in the open. ONLY IN HALLWAYS BUD! WHY THROW THE ORB AWAY WHEN YOU CAN BOUNCE IT HORIZONTALLY RAWRRRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRRR BARKBARK
If I pat your head (because you're right) will you calm down? You're scaring the children
@@EatYourToastSon NAWR!!!! but thanks anyway
Throwing it at an angle on the floor allows it to heal you for a tiny bit longer. But mostly only you cause it will fly into the sky😅
What the actual fuck was that Moira ult at 8mins. Jeeze.
I think they're using healing orb because they feel like they're falling behind on healing, but when you don't use damage orb you're losing more value from your main heal because it's not getting recharged so you're starving yourself. Especially when you use a healing orb when your team is 90% full. The Lucio should take care of that while you're getting your resources back. If you had full healing recourses then I could see going for the healing orb on 90% health teammates.
Yep which is why I was surprised. Why pick a limited healer when you think ur falling behind on heals?? Feels like they are working against themselves.
🎉POP SHARTS!🎉
Pop sharts = a rough time after eating off brand pop tarts
Funny thing is I legit watched the original vod yesterday 😂
omg pobsharts
As a Moira/Ana/Mercy main, this kinda hurt to watch. I was yelling in my head "DO SOME DMG" nearly the whole time. Way to passive and so it was hard to keep up those heals in critical situations. Throwing a healing orb, still healing and they don't even receive that much dmg. So orb would've been enough and you could get in some dmg to fill up your heals.
Sometimes I struggle too. Especially if enemies play poke and noones diving and just getting shot at (and you can't really go in by yourself, so I mostly just switch off Moira).
Also: Your teammates don't need full hp, they just need to live long enough to win the fights, so peppering those heals all the time isn't really necessary - you have another support who can heal some dmg. If you're sure you could kill of 2 or maybe even 3 low hp targets - let a mate die. Don't just throw in every heal resource you have if you know they will die either way and you can't get anything out from it.
That Roadhog is my spirit animal 😂 go for the enviro> stick with team
ESPECIALLY ON ILIOS WELL. So fun
Am i the only one that thought it was funny af that nacho killed tacos?
Popsharts is gonna be the name of my next alt account.
I always throw a healing orb first, into the team fight. Damage as much as i can until i can throw a damage orb and use the spray
my gameplay with moira looks (i would say) better and i deranked from gold 2 to silver 1.... why is this person so "high" rranked .__.
Damage orb exists my guess is Diamond 2 I was close but wasted 21 minutes of my life because I thought they would be a different rank
@@jamalsfro??
How is this Diamond? I thought this was plat or gold
@@button9They're not dying randomly, they're managing their distance well
@@khaledm.1476 “they died a little less” doesn’t scream diamond to me, that’s how you get out of silver
@@button9 idk I am a gold support myself can't tell you what separates diamond from gold when I never hit that rank myself
Good park sharts
I don't think they improved at all. Moira is super easy to climb out of the metal ranks because most of the enemy players don't know what to do with her
They were already bad on mercy and moira is just enabling their bad habits
Except this is in diamond where people don't miss 6 shots in a row on a moira. They max 3tap you if you mess up. Time to kill in diamond is much faster then it is in metal ranks and that's also why the rightclick self healing combo with damage is less likely to help the moira outsustain the dps.
Theres nothing you can do to convince me that this is diamond and not gold 5
its crazy to me that this is how a lot of my silver 3-4 moira games look (except i mainly throw damage orbs to recharge, only throw healing if im low or if someone is really really low and needs it) how do i get out of silver.....
Going from not healing to healbotting, talk about bouncing from one extreme to another. But at the same time, I also feel kinda bad, he/she is likely doing this because improper advices or better yet, demands given by teammates who yells at them for heals
Damage ok when heals are good.
their moira is so unbalanced its driving me crazy
Silver 2
If a dva plats like that, I don't play moira. It's just stupid.
i am 99% sure i am the zarya in the this game but i dont remember going hog. Arent the names of the players other than Moriko hidden with fake names?
No, streamer mode replaces names with gibberish letters and numbers
I love these videos!
The fact that they are diamond proves how garbage this ranking system is
Im not even joking when I say this, people in bronze and silver play better/ like this. Like actually.
I think because this is console
Definitely because its console, Competitive on console is a different kind of breed
1:49 those pop sharts were reminding emongg of his days at hershey squirts
Predictions. They’re gonna be, super pro, time for some masters support gameplay.
Edit 1. REIN ON KINGS ROW
Edit 2. That was a cleanse
Edit 3. That was a cleanse
Edit 4. That was a cleanse
Edit 5. Winston?
Edit 6. Never-mind, good pick
Edit 7. Squish
Edit 8. Tank’s playing mystery heroes?
Edit 9. That was a fade
Edit 10. That was a fade
Edit 11. And Hog thought this was Overwatch 1
Edit 12. Jesus Christ onto Queen now
Edit 13. Alright, onto Zarya. Have they gotten an ultimate this game?
Edit 14. It was for movement and I get it, but that was a fade
Edit 15. Good ult
Edit 16. You avoided the ult, good use of fade… But your tank lives on full charge there so not sure why you faded *away* from the team
Edit 17. You’re using cleanse like it’s a healing orb on Moria and fade like its swift step. There’s some overlap in their use case, but not that much. These are your “get out of jail free cards” and you’re using them like they’re candy. CD management is definitely the main thing here
Edit 18. Yeah so you know how mercy doesn’t want to yellow beam a full hp target unless they’re definitely going to take some damage, you don’t either. You got the feather idea down pact but yeah.
Edit 19. I almost don’t even want to talk about this because the CD management is way more important than this and focus on one thing at a time, but the heroes you’re playing can play off angles and at some point you’re gonna wanna do that but it’s King’s row so meh
Edit 20: Tank’s done playing mystery heroes, definitely settled into the comp
Edit 21: Okay that was a healing orb
Edit 22: Okay when I said not to use cleanse like healing orb I didn’t mean healing orb was something you use off cooldown, you’re not ult farming and if you were damage orb in that scenario.
Edit 23. That… Was a healing orb. Okay so we’ve stopped the random fades now it’s healing orb.
Edit 24. The coals have left much to be desired as well, you either coal Mei ult instantly or let Lucio beat, the delay is make or break
Edit 25. That was a fade
Edit 26. Actually good heal orb timing, wrong direction though so I can tell that was an accident
Edit 27. The delay. Is make or break, you either fade in press Q or don’t, team fight was won by the time you did that.
Edit 28. That was a healing orb
Edit 29. You were not in the ult, that was a fade.
Edit 30. Much more decisive coal, even though blizzard got eaten that was probably the best timed ultimate
Edit 31. Probably mid Diamond, like Diamond 3 also Emongg is definitely being generous to your Kiriko, you used cleanse like it was a 6th Ofuda.
Edit 32. Eh I was one rank off, I’m taking the W on this one. Use your cleanse less, fade less as well. Even healing orb was too much and that’s an ability you can be very lenient with.
I don't like the moira play she feels so bad without orb
Yeah I get that this player is just playing Moira to play Moira. It's okay to have heroes you don't vibe with and only play when needed (and therefore don't get the nuance of some stuff) but Moira is like, smooth brain levels of understanding of the mechanics and how's why's - the part of her that actually drops off if you don't love and understand her isn't whether to use a damage orb or a heal orb it's stuff like when can I play flankra, when can I fade into the enemy supports and kill them safely, that sort of thing.
W
This is diamond? I dont believe it this looks worse then my bronze games .
This guy seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the damage/heal balance on Moira, she’s not Mercy, stop healing when everyone’s full health
I don't understand how I got in plat 💀
nvm I remember that my teammates often throw
You're in plat because you play worse than them.
Rank must be a silver😮 bc if is not i should be in Master when i am rly in silver.
This player is better than you. I promise. Single vids are not indicative of a player's overall skill. You're silver, live with it.
35 seconds ago
How do i get an overwatch girlfriend?
Not play overwatch
Step 1: don't play OW (...or just use chat, a lot of girls in my games use chat haha)
@@HereComesCats bet🙏
With all due respect, can you curate these to show actual improvement? I'd much rather see a gold player go up to diamond than a guy being in the exact same spot they were five months ago. I think it's more beneficial to show that your reviews were helpful in improving their gameplay so that they can climb efficiently.
It's not really on Emongg if the people he vod reviews don't actually end up improving. In this case this player went from one end of the spectrum (not healing enough) to the opposite end of the spectrum (healing way too much). He gives good advice but he can't make people listen to it 🤷🏻♀️
It's literally 'where are they now' if it was only better every time it would be disingenuous. With all due respect (which is none) this is a weird asf comment.