Very cool! Will grab. Ironically i love to take ‘big’ snares and edit the envelope to be quick and sharp, cutting out most of the later reflections. You still get the texture of the reverb in whatever tail you leave. Like ‘gated reverb,’ except much more naturalistic, if you edit the envelope right.
I also use that Laptop to run my studio. It is louder than a macbook, but so is everything else. It's also more powerful, and only costs a fraction of the price of any other high performance laptop on the market. You've got some great gear Kohle, looking forward to the next video.
I didn’t have the time to do that. I did capture IRs in the reverb chamber of EVE Audio some time ago though. ruclips.net/video/Y9p7-r8WFog/видео.htmlsi=4Ig6LNR407-hVXbg
@@KohleAudioKult Incidentally you can do a very quick and dirty IR by clapping loudly in the room. Can sound surprisingly good! So you don’t really need a lot of time to make an IR, if you’re already mic’d up just clap! 👏
@@KohleAudioKult You might try using one of your original room mic recordings, a single snare hit, as a reverb IR. The room mics sound like they’re mostly ringing out the noise (snares), not quite as much of the drum head ring. You might have an amazing reverb IR already! Many convolution reverbs also have on-board EQ, so you could potentially reduce the drum-head-ring in the reverb that way.
Sampling snare drums is the best place to start if you want to.make your own samples. I managed to do it with just one mic, a SM57. I set up the mic on the snare at first and hit the snare to a click track through headphones. I then placed the mic away from the mic in step 1) 2M away , 2) in the middle of the hall i was in, 3) at the other end of the room. Each time doing to the click track. I recorded it with a towel over the snare, using my hand to dampening the drum, placing the drum in a corner to get reflections from the walls. Now I am constantly thinking about the recording process for all the one hits that i might use.
Great job there, 201 is one of my favourite mics for snare, guitar amps, anything really, always had at least two in my case since the late 70‘s, did a couple of tours where EVERY mic (apart from kick in, D12) was a 201 or 221 (smaller hi-passed version)
When you're using the Trigger Instrument Editor, what's your advice for where the changeover points are for the different velocity layers? Like do you always set the hardest hits from, say, 90-127, the next hardest from 60-89, softest from 0-59, or something like that? These sounded really natural on the fast roll so it sounds like you have it dialed in a certain way.
I really like the samples and started to look for good steel snare samples a few days ago so happy to find this video :) but unfortunately if I push the accept invitation button in discord it says that it doesn't let me in :(
Lots of people use it on toms or kick because of its slightly scooped character. It's a very interesting sounding mic for sure. I used it a lot for the Beyer IR pack with Bogren Digital. Not my first choice on snare though as you have heard in the video.
sounds awesome. especially all together. but damn, youtube tells me this video was uploaded today, 12th october 24 but there is a comment from 9 days ago??? i guess we have a new glitch in the matrix.
There's another mail coming to all the existing people on the email list with another invitation to Discord. But sorry, there's no way around an account there. But it just takes seconds.
@@KohleAudioKult again, I don't mean to be disrespectful but next time you record a bunch of drummers pay attention on how they hit the snare, your intentions are great but it's just not the same sound of someone who does this for a living, hitting the snare a hundred or a thousand times a week, and it doesn't just have to do with tuning, my personal favorite ones don't just hit the center of the snare or some point on it, they hit that but they also hit the rim a bit, it's a way of hitting that sometimes takes years to perfect and if you are going to make samples you definitely should take that into consideration.
That’s all very true. I always record sales with every drummer I work with. That’s how I have learned to hit the share the way I want it for samples. One thing I have learned it’s to totally avoid the rim for example! That just blends way better with any performance. So don’t worry! 🥳
why use a sample when its easy enough to record your drummers actual snare? if the studio your working in cant get a good drum sound, you need to be in a better studio. samples and plug ins are like using pitch correction. you are taking the art out of your music. this is why everyones bands sound alike. no art, all fake.
Recording your own drum sounds is the best thing you can do! I agree. But using samples along the way (not everyone has a room like this!) or for adding another spice is totally fine! Using the same VSTs like everybody else and replacing your drums 100% is totally boring though. I’ve done so many videos and courses about this!
I like blending both. Acoustic basically for the room/overhead, and all the close mic'd drums pretty low in the mix with samples on top. It really makes for a pretty nice sounding kit.
How do you like the samples? 🤘
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Dude I just found this I’m gonna download them and let you know
I downloaded 'The Beyer Chamber Snare' from the discord, but it's just one hit... where are the other velocity layers and round robins?
@@DbiPro Deal!
Absolutely superb! Downloading now!!
Enjoy!
Very cool! Will grab. Ironically i love to take ‘big’ snares and edit the envelope to be quick and sharp, cutting out most of the later reflections. You still get the texture of the reverb in whatever tail you leave. Like ‘gated reverb,’ except much more naturalistic, if you edit the envelope right.
I also use that Laptop to run my studio. It is louder than a macbook, but so is everything else. It's also more powerful, and only costs a fraction of the price of any other high performance laptop on the market. You've got some great gear Kohle, looking forward to the next video.
I would love to have an IR of that room itself to use as a general reverb. It sounds incredible. Massive and lush, but controlled.
I didn’t have the time to do that.
I did capture IRs in the reverb chamber of EVE Audio some time ago though.
ruclips.net/video/Y9p7-r8WFog/видео.htmlsi=4Ig6LNR407-hVXbg
Great idea with a guitar amp
@@KohleAudioKult Incidentally you can do a very quick and dirty IR by clapping loudly in the room. Can sound surprisingly good! So you don’t really need a lot of time to make an IR, if you’re already mic’d up just clap! 👏
@@KohleAudioKult You might try using one of your original room mic recordings, a single snare hit, as a reverb IR. The room mics sound like they’re mostly ringing out the noise (snares), not quite as much of the drum head ring. You might have an amazing reverb IR already! Many convolution reverbs also have on-board EQ, so you could potentially reduce the drum-head-ring in the reverb that way.
That’s possible. You can even try that yourself with the close mic and room hit!
Sick! Pretty slick how that phase cancellation cut the honk right out. I can't wait to play with these! 🤘
Yeah, that was a nice surprise
The "whipping" sound you describe in 13:10 is something that I was trying to achieve! Amazing samples overall.
Thanks man! 🤘❤️
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just joined the Kult! thanks for the snares!!
Welcome! I see you in the Tavern!
Straight 🔥
Totally loving the snare samples! Thank you \,,/
Enjoy!
Sampling snare drums is the best place to start if you want to.make your own samples.
I managed to do it with just one mic, a SM57.
I set up the mic on the snare at first and hit the snare to a click track through headphones.
I then placed the mic away from the mic in step 1) 2M away , 2) in the middle of the hall i was in, 3) at the other end of the room. Each time doing to the click track.
I recorded it with a towel over the snare, using my hand to dampening the drum, placing the drum in a corner to get reflections from the walls.
Now I am constantly thinking about the recording process for all the one hits that i might use.
Can’t wait to download these!
Enjoy!
you should sample a popcorn or piccolo snare sometime!
Yes, I should
I love bottom snare mics
wow those are some great samples when u add that condenser wooo awesome
Sounds fkin awesome!!
Awesome Awesome ❤……what will be a plugin alternative to the stereo delay used in adjusting the room mic
Great job there, 201 is one of my favourite mics for snare, guitar amps, anything really, always had at least two in my case since the late 70‘s, did a couple of tours where EVERY mic (apart from kick in, D12) was a 201 or 221 (smaller hi-passed version)
A real classic and Steve Albini's fave!
When you're using the Trigger Instrument Editor, what's your advice for where the changeover points are for the different velocity layers? Like do you always set the hardest hits from, say, 90-127, the next hardest from 60-89, softest from 0-59, or something like that? These sounded really natural on the fast roll so it sounds like you have it dialed in a certain way.
Thank You .. 🙏 Hi Hat Samples Please ❤🔥
That sample sounds really realistic, not like some of drum vst plugins
Thanks bud!
The tg 58 mic is great. I picked up a few because they're so cheap and they sound awesome.
I’ll do the same thing!
@@KohleAudioKult only downside is they seem fragile, but they do sit out of the way nicely. They sound good on toms too
Great video, killer sounds! I'm lucky enough to have pair of newer m160's, a vintage m88 and a vintage m201.
Great combo!
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awesome sounds! Quick question , how difficult is it to change heads on the free floating snare? I'm thinking of getting one.
No difference to any other snare
You put laptop into the reverb chamber. Don't You think the mics can pickup a FAN sound? that will be quite dramatic to final version of samples 🤔
Don’t worry! The fan is only loud when the machine is working hard.
And compared to a full power snare hit..,,💪
@@KohleAudioKult thanks I owe You. I forgot about principals of the game. BM rulez 😁
Can you do a matching kick, please?
Don’t know if they let me into that room again
I really like the samples and started to look for good steel snare samples a few days ago so happy to find this video :) but unfortunately if I push the accept invitation button in discord it says that it doesn't let me in :(
I like you a lot
The samples are good too
no rimshot?
I really prefer rimshot free samples. They just blend better with a natural snare track or other samples
Interesting to use M88 on snare, I've always used it on kick drum.
Lots of people use it on toms or kick because of its slightly scooped character.
It's a very interesting sounding mic for sure. I used it a lot for the Beyer IR pack with Bogren Digital.
Not my first choice on snare though as you have heard in the video.
still waiting for the email.... but this sounds amazing!
You should have received it ahead!
sounds awesome. especially all together. but damn, youtube tells me this video was uploaded today, 12th october 24 but there is a comment from 9 days ago??? i guess we have a new glitch in the matrix.
Haha! Nope. If a video is unlisted but also on a playlist, people can find it and make comments before the official release.
overhead is the best sound
Some Drummer sat there looked down between there legs and said. Yeah 6.5 is plenty! lol
some are 7 or 8 even 10. but most say 6.5 half those are 5.5
I'm the 665th go and like the video, be the number of the beast!!!
The magic moment is near!
Thanks for the video ( and samples )
I don't have a discord account, so I can't download the samples. Can we have them sent by email?
There's another mail coming to all the existing people on the email list with another invitation to Discord. But sorry, there's no way around an account there. But it just takes seconds.
Not sure what happened but I signed up but the samples never sent?
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@@KohleAudioKult Hi. How to write to the newsletter? I also subscribed but no link was sent to My email. Thanx in advance.
There’s another email coming later today!
@@KohleAudioKultall set! Just got the email! Thanks again!
I Like you! 😂
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Kohle! One of the realest! Let's be buddies lolol. Sorry haha. Great work as always!
Thanks buddy! ;)
Beginning....Your only two hits on the snare are out of the beat! 😹
I don't want you to take this the wrong way but if you went through all of this i think you should also could have used a drummer for the recording.
I have recorded drum samples with hundreds of drummers.
And I gotta say: I'm very happy with the hits ;)
@@KohleAudioKult again, I don't mean to be disrespectful but next time you record a bunch of drummers pay attention on how they hit the snare, your intentions are great but it's just not the same sound of someone who does this for a living, hitting the snare a hundred or a thousand times a week, and it doesn't just have to do with tuning, my personal favorite ones don't just hit the center of the snare or some point on it, they hit that but they also hit the rim a bit, it's a way of hitting that sometimes takes years to perfect and if you are going to make samples you definitely should take that into consideration.
He just said it was quick a dirty ya dumbass.
@@redesdenadieit's called a rimshot and it doesn't work well fir samples intended for blending
That’s all very true.
I always record sales with every drummer I work with. That’s how I have learned to hit the share the way I want it for samples.
One thing I have learned it’s to totally avoid the rim for example! That just blends way better with any performance. So don’t worry! 🥳
why use a sample when its easy enough to record your drummers actual snare? if the studio your working in cant get a good drum sound, you need to be in a better studio. samples and plug ins are like using pitch correction. you are taking the art out of your music. this is why everyones bands sound alike. no art, all fake.
Recording your own drum sounds is the best thing you can do! I agree.
But using samples along the way (not everyone has a room like this!) or for adding another spice is totally fine!
Using the same VSTs like everybody else and replacing your drums 100% is totally boring though. I’ve done so many videos and courses about this!
I like blending both. Acoustic basically for the room/overhead, and all the close mic'd drums pretty low in the mix with samples on top. It really makes for a pretty nice sounding kit.
Sad to see no snare bottom mic! snare bottom samples help me add length to snares that are too short sounding naturally in my mixes
I don’t think you’re gonna need it here!