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I still dislike Ardlings a lot. It feels like a catch all for Beast people. As someone who loves playing Tabaxi, Kenku and Owlins it seems to be replacing them. Maybe because they are lazy and dont feel the need to make stat blocks and individual histories of the races or maybe its because they want to streamline them. Either way it seems like a copout
Race is too small in its nomenclature to denote what is being discussed. Race, in the sense of Biology, is commonly used interchangeably with Subspecies, but has been known to also describe differences in individuals within the same subspecies. Species is used to describe organisms based primarily on ability to breed with one another. While that typically doesn't hold in fantasy settings, Species is the most accurate term to describe the differences in player characters as we know them.
That being said, Lineage or Heritage would be generally acceptable. I doubt they would use Ancestry since Pathfinder is already associated with that term.
@@Kaelyn91 You explicitly stated "species" doesn't hold in fantasy settings. Logically, if a concept doesn't hold, then it's inaccurate, false. It is because of the existence of half-breeds that makes "ancestry" actually more sensible, and we get the fun little ABCs to go with it.
The Dragonborn breath weapon difference from Fizbans that they also added here is: Before, it was an entire action to use breath weapon Now, you use a breath weapon instead of an attack, so if you have extra attack you can still attack after using a breath weapon
You also could choose to use the breath weapon twice if you were a class with multi attack and had a good opportunity. Love that we can change it between line and cone now though
@@JoeyTee420 The text says "When you use an attack action, you can replace ONE of you attacks", so no, unless you use action surge you can't use breath weapon more than once a turn. But I don't think it would be OP if you could, its a nice homebrew
I think I remember hearing that Tolkin used the word race because it sounded more aesthetically correct than species for the nature of the work. I kinda agree as species does sound to sff. I think Pathfinder 2nd uses ancestry, which I think sounds better for the fantasy aesthetic.
In the time Tolkien was writing, the term race was also more commonly used in other meanings than its normal one today. Darwin too used races to mean different kinds of animals about a century earlier. Words change their meanings and all that.
@@peterbillings3276 That's always been one of the powergaming comboes and I'm not surprised to see WotC working to reign in stuff like that. Think this whole update or redesign, whatever you want to call it, is a move to normalize features. They're buffing some of the worst feats, spells, and features and nerfing or removing some of the worst offenders. I like it in principle but we'll have to see how their execution is when the book releases.
@@Xynth25 In my opinion, Spiritual weapon isn't really a powergaming combo. In conjunction with spirit guardians it is a very solid, very obvious combo that a lot of people employ to good success and fun. It doesn't perform the same as Polearm Master+Great Weapon Master+Sentinel, or Crossbow Expert+Sharpshooter or Drow Half-Elf+Elven Accuracy+Devil's Sight+Shadow Sorc+Hexblade Sorlock. Optimized powergaming annihilates it. My point being, it feels to me more like a bread and butter pillar of the class than an out of line broken combo that needs to be reined in. The version in this UA seems truly awful. I feel like I'd rather concentrate on Bless. Maybe it's okay at levels 3-4 but once you get higher level stuff it will be the same as concentrating on something like Silence, except Silence might actually be useful in specific contexts. I really hope it doesn't stick.
Just to clarify the Ardling Runner: the Dash action no longer doubles your speed, instead giving you a second move action. So at 2 proficiency bonus, you'd have 30ft for your first move and 30ft + 20ft for your second move.
Dash never doubled your speed in 5e, it let you move again as an action. Important distinction since dashing as action and bonus action would give you three moves in a turn, not four.
Also, while D&D is by no means required to follow current or accurate science anymore than Hollywood does, the velociraptor was actually not particularly fast despite the name. In terms of speed, think of them less as an ostrich or emu and more in the area of the wild turkey. Which is... admittedly faster than you might assume, but you're not going to lose a foot race to one with its little legs.
The big thing about the old dragonborn was that the breath weapon was an action rather than an attack that worked with extra attack. This version of dragonborn make good martials now, which fit many people's fantasy.
For the Dash for Racer Ardlings - it does say "your Speed increases for that Action" - which makes me think it only applies to the movement of the dash action specifically. But definitely needs some clearer wording there.
@@robbperez1278 Yup. And if you get multiple dashes, you also get the increase on every one, so, a hasted high-level monk Ardling can move at a baffling 600 feet per round.
The issue with Scholar and using the Wisdom bonus for the skill is, a 1st level Cleric will likely already have a number of those skills. So either a player who wants to take scholar at level 2 needs to intentionally not take those skills at level 1 (which seem clunky and counter to Crawford's talk about making things easy on new players), or they need to change Scholar to let you assign that bonus to already known skills.
Personally I liked the different walk speeds, made me appreciate the ideas that walk pace differs and never saw one less square as much of a disadvantage as long as they had another minor benefit to them, so it evens out
The problem there is that they’re already using lineage to refer to what used to be sub races. Though that’s an easy fix. They could just call them bloodlines or something so you’d choose a lineage and a bloodline.
Yes, I agree. I feel like if they use species everyone will just keep calling it race anyway. I also feel like “Kin” could be a good alternative for race/subrace.
Honestly, they could've just said you can't long rest again for at least 12 hours and gotten what I assume is the desired effect. Helps cut down in 5-minute adventuring day shenanigans, but allows characters to go to bed early if they're really tired (ie used up most of their spells, features, and such). And it keeps weird delays like you're describing from piling up.
I’m guessing wizards are going to get something very similar to the Cleric’s Holy order, but you choose a school of magic that your wizard specializes in. Hopefully to make up for only getting four subclasses, instead of the usual eight that are in the 5e PHB. I would call it something like Arcane Elective or chosen study. 🧙🏽♂️
I think by only having 4 subclasses they can make them feel unique, and they can handle the schools of magic like you mentioned how they did with the Holy Orders. So having a Bladesinger subclass who specializes in Abjuration magic or a War Wizard sub class who specializes in Divination, etc.
@@andrewshandle Four subclasses would be good for more flavorful subclasses -- but I worry that may stifle particular classes like sorcerers, and warlocks. Hell even druid might suffer if they're limited.
I love the new Goliath! That's such a genius idea to have them have origins related to the various giants. Not sure if these are balanced necessarily, but I like this idea.
It's a shame from a lore point of view however. I agree this is neat and will be good for a lot of homebrew worlds but for the standard forgotten realm this is odd. Also what does this mean for the kther giant kin like firbolgs?
It really does look like everyone's getting subclasses at the same levels, which is a great idea if only because you can now make cross-class subclasses, or at least class-group restricted subclasses. Like, instead of having a fiendish bloodline for sorcerers and a fiendish patron for warlocks, just have a fiendish subclass for the Mages class group (with wizards taking it being demonologists or something). The Fighter's Battle Master archetype would be a really fun option for Monk or even Rogue.
Battle Master is so nice for martials I honestly think some of the abilities it gets should be integrated into them to bring them a bit closer to the magic classes
If I wake up and engage in combat and hiking for 10+ hours, burning 5k+ calories, I could certainly fall asleep after just 12 hours awake. I'll always structure long rests around what makes sense to me, as opposed to using such a rigid written formula (which feels more like one of their dialed in rules to balance competitive games)
@@BobWorldBuilder Usually I DM, but I have found a group that I get to play with (yay me for living in one of the biggest Cities, London). I chose to play a Halfling Sorlock, and because our DM only allows us to play from the PHB I get 25' move and I am more than happy with it, it leads to some funny party interaction where our dwarven cleric keeps trying to pick my character up and carrying me and I huffily ask him to put me down. Though I did allow myself to be carried once and got flashbacks to Gimli in the LotR films telling Aragorn to toss him across a gap at Helm's Deep but saying to Aragorn "Just don't tell the Elf".
@@BobWorldBuilder I've had players forget that their speed is lower than 30 because they're used to playing humans and such. I've never had a player forget when their speed was higher than 30. Take this anecdote for the grain of salt it's worth.
As a long term fan of playing Cleric, I absolutely love the changes that came out of this one. Turn Undead has felt quite useless in my experience, so doing straight damage rather than being based on CR is really quite useful without being broken. The fighting style esc. thing is also really neat, since clerics have always been kind of a Support, Tank, and Offensive class and now you have to pick which one to spec into first and that makes much more sense to me. Overall I think WotC nailed this one.
Yeah, that seems a bit strong. Having fewer uses but regening on a short rest encouraged short rests which tends to benefit martials (always nice), plus I never really found myself running out as a Cleric anyway. But it also meant you couldn't use a load of Channel Divinity's in one fight, they had to be spaced out. This just lets you nova with it in boss fights, which is what spellcasters are already good at.
Channel Divinity at level 1 is fantastic. I can't tell you how many new players I've DM'd for that didn't understand how central the ability was for the Cleric Class because it wasn't something that they had from the start (like Sneak Attack, for example)
The 5e long rest limits long resting to once per 24 hours, so the 16 hour thing is trying to word it in a more clear way. Probably makes more sense for it to be 24 hours after the start of the previous long rest, instead of 16 hours after the end of the previous long rest, tho
i think speed is something cool to play with, but like you said it's better to make some players feel fast than it is to make others feel slow. i like the goliath change
That’s not what he said about the Goliath and the Orc. He said that before this, if someone wanted to play an aesthetically burly species from the PHB they would have to pick the Half-Orc (he actually said Orc but he was referring to the game as is) and that they don’t want to pigeon-hole people into one choice to fulfill their aesthetic fantasy (e.g. people who want to play little folk can go Gnome or Halfling). The decision to broaden the aesthetic and mechanics of the Goliath is unrelated to the beefiness comment he made, but rather a necessity of making Goliaths more flexible in accordance with the other PHB species especially the Dragonborn who he explicitly linked with the Goliaths thematically.
Sincerely, I didn't even knew there was a time limit where you couldn't take a long rest after the last one. It just seems so silly! And if people are abusing long rests somehow, the problem isn't in the long rest, but in these people.
The Dash Action has no impact on your speed, it instead adds extra movement based on your speed. So if you have a speed of 30, the extra movement gained by your Dash would be 50 ft at level 1 for a Runner Ardling. So your total available movement for that turn is 80 ft. This feature will synergize really well with rogues and monks who can take the dash action as a bonus action.
I feel that since they’ve already given the Ardling features based on their animal characteristics, they might as well: replace the divine magic ability with proficiencies in any two of the following skills: Acrobatics, Animal Handling, Athletics, Nature, Perception, Stealth, or Survival Rename the Ardling to Beastfolk, or possibly keep it as “Beastfolk” may be regarded as an offensive term Bring back the Aasimar and give them the og Ardling lineages, while allowing them the choice between being half-animal or humanoid angels This way, people can play strictly animal-like characters, and humanoid angelic or angelic-animal characters While they’re at it, they can create a Fallen Lineage for Aasimars (with chill touch, inflict wounds, and the like) and an Ascended Lineage for Tieflings (basically the “good” Tieflings who have access to sacred flame and healing spells)
Dashing in the same doc says "You take a bonus move". Move says "you go a distance equal to your speed or less". So if you increase your speed by 20ft when you take the dash action, youll benefit from that twice within the turn. So a dashing level 3 racer ardling could move 100ft.
Not only does Species sound more like a sci-fi thing, it also implies that half-orcs and half-elves (and any other half-something character) are sterile as different species cannot reproduce and produce a fertile offspring so species is very much the wrong term. If you really don't want to use the word race (which is the actual correct term) then use something like lineage or ancestry.
On the last bit, about the required time of 16 hours between each long rest. I can understand and appreciate the need to have such an established ruling, so players can't just "spam" long rests for some purpose that seems game-breaking. On the other hand, I usually find that taking a long rest at all is often a gamble. Maybe it's just the way my brother runs the game, but we are usually encouraged to just try to plow through events and locations, without a rest. A short rest may eventually be in view if we're at the brink of death, and out of spell slots. If we take a long rest, that's an extra 8 hours the enemy have to follow through with their evil plans, or for us to get ambushed, or those kidnapped civilians get sacrificed but we were too busy sleeping!
100%, long rests can be very balanced if the DM handles them well. If there needs to be a hard rule that restricts them, I would prefer it to be that you can only take a Long Rest once per day AND you must pass at least 10 (or so) hours between each LR.
I kinda dislike that, because there's been times my party has known we were going to be up early the next morning for some reason, so we want to have an earlier night. This ruling would technically prevent that. It feels like they're trying to regulate it too much. If a player is arguing with the DM, they need to just add something reminding the DM of rule 0, and to shut it down.
@@BobWorldBuilder My guess is it was to address something like 'I long rest at end of day' and then immediately 'I long rest at start of next day' which I've had players try and do in 5th (I didn't let them) to deal with exhaustion.
Thank you so much for going over these new changes and additions. It's incredibly helpful, and how you express your own feelings on each part is further engaging and gets me excited to try these out as well. So thank you for taking the time to make these videos and share the information in fun, manageable segments. :)
Just pointing this out. The Dash action has been revamped. Your speed doesn't double when using it anymore. Instead, you gain a second Move. Meaning, if each move can only use one movement type at a time if you have more than one. A Dash is a separate movement altogether. As an example, at 1st level, your speed is still 30 feet by default. But when you Dash, you can move 50 feet on top of that. By 17th level, if you use your normal Move and then Dash, you can move up to 150 feet in a single turn, which is bonkers.
This is just a rephrasing of the Dash action in the current 5E players handbook: "When you take the Dash action, you gain extra movement for the current turn. The increase equals your speed, after applying any modifiers." That is, when you take the Dash action, you increase your available movement by your speed, nothing about doubling, so Move + Cunning Action Dash + Hasted Action Dash = 1+1+1 (=3) not 1x2x2 (=4) [The Haste effect of doubling your speed is unrelated to the Dash action, for a total of 2+2+2 (=6) not 2x2x2 (=8)].
One thing I think sounds amazing is under Draconic Flight "Your wings appear to be made of the energy used by your Breath Weapon." Mentally, the imagery for this is so cool.
The way I understand it, the Dash action lets you move your speed again. So for your movement for your turn you move 30ft, then you Dash 50ft, for a total of 80ft moved in one turn.
All that weirdness with Long rest tracks pretty closely with my real world experiences with sleep schedules. Joking aside, the other changes with Long Rest are pretty great as they give sort of a balancing mechanic to rest casting so that casters aren't just cheesing interpretation of RAW to gain a free casting of Mage Armor, but gaining a few spell effects at the expense of having a somewhat longer rest time.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that all the Goliath lineage options are based on attack rolls, meaning they work with Eldritch Blast as it is. If Eldritch Blast stays the same then Frost's Chill, even with its' prof. bonus per long rest limits, will be insane for its' movement speed slow. You can basically have your cake and eat it too by using Agonizing Blast, but also reducing their speed by 10 which is functionally very similar to knocking them back 10 feet. For a fun punting build, create a Dao Genie patron Warlock with Frost Giant lineage and take the Crusher feat as your first level feat (if that's not possible, take it later). You can push enemies 5 feet per Eldritch Blast due to Crusher + Dao Genie's Bludgeoning damage and slow them down by 10 feet. Knockback can increase to 15 feet if you use Repelling Blast, which is high enough to cause falling damage. Also Cloud Giant's ability is incredibly strong. It is a way better Misty Step and might honestly be too strong on casters since it isn't a leveled spell and thus you can cast a leveled spell after using it as your bonus action.
i really like the Holy Order thing, makes it optional to be proficient in Martial Weapons and Heavy Armor as cleric. so many 5e cleric subclasses having those proficiencies would just be wasted on the character idea i had in my head. im glad there are some choices now
I feel like the change from "race" to "species" emphasizes more division between the groups. A race is one of many subgroups of one species of people, while species are distinct from each other and don't generally mix ("interbreed"). I don't care for the word "race" being used to describe physical and lineage characteristics of PCs, but I dislike the division that "species" implies more. I don't mind using the new term but it would be nice if they could come up with one that fits the mechanic better.
The way Daze is phrased, plus the undead cleric mechanic. It means that if you take an action, you cannot move. As an undead you can only take the dash action allowing you to move. So you can only move your speed as an undead. It is really powerful. It also cuts down their speed. They cannot move and dash. They can only either move normally or dash not move and dash normally.
What you missed about the Dragon Breath Weapon was that it's back to being part of the Attack action, not once per turn. I didn't catch it because you only read the second column. But that's okay!
I don’t want movement speeds to be standardized myself. It makes sense that some things would be slower or faster (aren’t Centaurs 40?). 30 as a baseline and having small ranges above that seems fine and not too drastic of a change. Otherwise why have movement speed be a stat in the first place outside of ‘all creatures have a movement speed of 30’ somewhere. Doesn’t seem as fun
for that rest concern on it constantly pushing your rests back further and further each day, they could adjust it so that it's a 14 hour timer instead of 16 hour, so that you get a 2 hour leniency on the matter
Long Rest: it also doesn't say a long rest is a maximum 8 hours. If things get thrown off, just rest for 10 hours, or take time breaking camp - maybe the halflings won't leave camp until they've had second breakfast ...
I don't think they're ever going to comment on it, but the speed thing for small races is almost certainly because being "Small" in D&D (or being a Halfling) was basically describing mechanics for being a little person, or for being a person with some kind of disability that affects growth. They don't want to be in the business of saying "there are two kinds of people - tall, fast people who can hold longbows, and short, slow people who can dart between tall peoples' legs", although they'll be fine with having similar traits that are less similar to actual real-life people (especially real-life groups that are sometimes marginalized). Like, I'm sure they have no problem saying that pixies are Tiny and therefore can do those things. It's the same reason that many species now let you choose Small or Medium. Frankly I think if they were redesigning D&D from the ground up today they would not include the Small category at all, and halflings, gnomes, goblins, kobolds, etc. would all be Medium.
Its a little weird to me that they changed race to species, due to the definition of both words, especially since stuff like half elves or half orcs exist
Race meant more sense from a genre point of view. "Species" is very modern and sci-fi esque and feels very out of place. Ancestry, race, lineage; those would make sense. Unfortunately, WotC are run by a bunch of liberal racists that feel guilty about it. They project shit like "Orcs are black people." Onto normal people just playing a game. It's maddening.
I think something to consider about a long rest is that they can probably be longer than 8 hours. I typically go with any period that the players are not engaged in combat or doing tasks that would otherwise force them to expend spell slots or abilities - then that’s a period of rest. They aren’t exercising those abilities and there have a chance to recover. Those periods can extend past 8 hours, they could be at a festival and looking for clues or socializing - I think that the rules for long tests are somewhat arbitrary but we only ever look at the minimum or rushed outcome.
The math seems like it would be Speed x2 +20ft since you have to take the Dash to get the bonus. "When you take a 60ft(50ft) dash you increase your speed by 20ft" is basically how i am reading it for a +2 proficiency bonus.
Listing triceratops as a racing species might be a clever reference to the Tomb of Annihilation adventure in which you could bet on or even participate in triceratops races while in Port Nyanzaru.
Ted from Nerd Immersion was reviewing this live, and someone mentioned "Ancestry" instead of "Species", so you can have the "ABC"s of character creation: "Ancestry", "Background", "Class".
My understanding with having smaller origins be slower is that it was a tradeoff; as something like a gnome or halfling you would be harder to hit and have some benefits like lucky. I think they should definitely make up their mind if they want to standardize speeds or let there be faster or slower depending on origin/species
The extra speed for dash is only once since it specifies "for the dash action" The dash action doesn't double your speed, it let's you use 'move' as an action, which is also why cunning action means you can move then dash then bonus dash all in one turn
I sometimes have checks not because the check can succeed, but because it's possible to fail catastrophically. If you're trying to convince the king to do something he won't do, I'm gonna ask for a check if you insist, and if you roll low enough the king's going to be angry
That new race in there definitely doesn't feel like Goliath, but it's definitely pretty cool mechanically. I would love to see it as like a generic giant-kin or something like that
Yeah basically what they said is that Goliaths have always been “the giant kin race” but they’ve only ever been the Stone Giant lineage. This will probably be expanded in more in the Giant-themed book coming next year
One important thing you missed about the cleric is Spellcasting and the wording in the class table. In the spells sections it used to say "Spell slots per level" (1 to 9), now it says "Prepared spells per spell level" (0 to 9). Which means that you now prepare cantrips as well, and the number of spells you can prepare equals to the spell slots you have (and not related to the proficiency bonus nor the spellcasting modifier)
It does make it a bit unintuitive though. The old way let you prepare more variety of spells, where this way is restrictive. What if I didn't need any 1st level spells and wanted to prepare more 3rd level spells for that day? The old way allowed for that method but this new one doesn't and it seems a bit weird to me.
Not a fan and will give that as feed back already did with Bard in expert class playtest survey. IMO this is a step back not an improvement. Players in my group like the flexibility of preparation as it is now.
Disciple of Life now only applies to healing that occurs on the same turn the Cleric uses a spell slot to heal. This feels like how the feature was originally intended to work and it's how I already house rule it. Glad they revised it to remove the ambiguity.
I’m with you bob on the giant speed. Keep it 30 and put it on an activatable ability like the giant form or even dash. Everyone having the same speed just cleans up play a ton in my experience
For the Racer Dash bit, it reads to me that you have base Speed, but when Dashing you get 2xSpeed+10xProf. Bonus. EX: Base Sped is 30 and Proficiency Bonus is +2. Dash makes it +30 more = 60. Racer Feature is 10 x Prof. Bonus (2) = 20. Total = 80 . (60+20) Love the videos! Keep 'em coming, please.
The biggest difference I noticed for the Cleric is that you prepare only two spells per day at level 1 instead of level plus Wisdom mod. Unless I am misunderstanding the wording there. Not really liking how that feels
That’s going to be standard for all casters. Prepare spells equal to the spell slots you have. Also can’t load up on level 1 spells at later levels either. The only additional spells you get come from your subclass. It’s gonna impact the Wizard too.
My favourite part of the UA is the calcification on rules for hiding, invisibility, influence, etc. Including the recommended DCs for such activities and the details in regards to perceiving and stealthing I'm hoping they keep expanding on it though and don't sit on their laurels Also on the rest part. I'm actually a fan of it because it's meant to discourage players trying to long rest after every encounter, to help DMs tax the parties resources and so when they stupidly decide to long rest in an unsafe space, and they get a random encounter and are attacked, it hampers them. It also makes random encounters potentially more impactful other than a minor inconvenience
I can’t remember which new video it was in, but Jeremy Crawford said that the new weapon options are going to be for warrior classes! When talking about the changes to great weapon master and sharp shooter, he said they wanted warriors to get cool damage dealing options from their classes, rather than needing to select specific feats. I definitely agree with your long rest complaint, it doesn’t seem nitpicky to me at all. Overall though-very psyched for this UA 🎉
Slight clarification - the reason they included the goliath in the PHB now, is so that the *orc* doesn't have to be the only beefy/buff species that a lot of players default to. Adding the goliath gives 2 flavors of burly buff guy, so the orc/half orc doesn't have to be a monolith.
Also, forgot to mention how infectious your enthusiasm in this video is! I also can't wait to play the new system, I think their transparency with the rules testing and why they're doing it a certain way, and willingness to quickly adjust based on feedback, bodes REALLY well for the final product!
I suppose strictly reading it as written for the Dog variant of Ardling, it does specify "your speed increases *for that action* ". So your normal move is still 30 feet, but the bonus move granted by the dash action has its speed increased to 50 (up to 90 at higher levels)
It wasn't the damage that was weak about the breath attack. It was the fact that it used a full action, there are better spells and most martials can do more damage in a turn with their weapon
If you're a racer ardling with move speed 30 ft and you dash, your dash is boosted by Prof bonus times 10. So you have 30 ft movement, dash is normally an extra 30, then you tack on 20 extra feet while dashing.
The four Dragonborn Breath Weapons compiled For all the DC is 8 + CON + Prof. Bns and on a succeded Saving Throw the damage is half. PHB Action. Once per Long Rest. Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines: * Size and shape (15ft cone or 5x30ft line) * Damage type (Elemental type) * Saving throw type (Dex or Con) DMG: 2d6 dmg; increases by +1d6 at 6th, 11th, 16th. Fizban Action on your turn, can replace one of your attacks. Prof. Bns. times per Long Rest. Ancestry (chromatic, metallic, gem) determines: * Size and shape (5x30ft line {chromatic} or 15ft cone {the others}) * Damage type (Gem have non elemental, the others just elemental type) DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg; increases by +1d10 at 5th, 11th, 17th. UA 2022 Character Origins Action, size and shape 15ft cone. Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines the Damage Type (Elemental type). DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg + Character level on a failed. UA 2022 Cleric and Species Action on your turn, can replace one of your attacks. Prof. Bns. times per Long Rest. Size and shape 30x5ft line or 15ft cone. Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines the Damage Type (Elemental type). DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg; increases by +1d10 at 5th, 11th, 17th.
I really love the way you talk about these changes! I feel like there's a lot of negative complaining, and feeling that excitement and happiness for change really lifts my mood! Wishing you a great year
That divine shock is literally an almost exact copy of a spell from world of Warcraft called holy shock which could be used to either hurt or heal. Not complaining, just pointing it out because it's interesting
10:40 It says dash action which is separate from normal movement. I think all it means is when you kick it in gear and burn your action to dash you can add 20 ft at that time. Otherwise your movement is the same as everyone else. edit: I agree with your nitpick on the movement speed. If you are going to make everyone the same make them all the same.
I think that the long rest wait time thing should exist but be reduced to a 8-12 hours. The only other idea I would have for it being that if your rest is interrupted by a fight, the time until your next long rest is not interrupted. So if you are awoken at 7 by a fight and go back to sleep after the fight to get your full rest, then waking up at say 9 instead of 8 then the time until your next long rest is not affected. My reasoning for this is so that everyone is aware of when they can get their next long rest by the time they go to sleep the day before without having to add extra math on to compensate for one fight.
I don't know about speeding tryceratops either, but a velociraptor is as tall as a chicken and not those killer reptiles from Jurassic Park. That beast was somewhat a species of oversized denonychus. But I can picture in my mind an antropomorph tryceratops which is analog to a minotaur. Something like a bulky scale-covered humanoid with a three-horned head.
Quick clarification: I think Crawford meant that they didn't want orcs to be the only tough guys race. They made half-species to be closer to the base race, and made orcs fill the half-orc place. Goliaths are a second option to be a tough guys, and as part of that, get theming from different giants. I like it, its similar to dragonborn or tieflings where they get theming based on a subset of a particular monster
dont apologize for nitpicking, thats the point of these playtests. the more refined the rules are, the less we need to change ourselves at the table. solid vid good takes
Ironically using "species" erases the kinship between the fantasy races and creates more separation between them. Not sure it's less controversial either ironically
Damn, you had me dreaming they fixed Long Rests. They just need to make them only available in towns/villages! None of this 16 hour nonsense. Thanks as usual Bob!
I completely agree with making long rests less available in the 'wild'. That's how I run my games. I have a modified long rest. Not as robust as a true long rest.
How would you address Wilderness Campaigns or Mega-Dungeon. I have been in campaigns where it was literally weeks between visits to towns/villages or a dungeon delve that spanned multiple sessions. The only way to resolve that would be to add 'camps' to that list of rest areas and give alternative rules for long dungeon rests. Considering they seem to be moving more towards simplicity and the reduction of situational rules, the latter seems unlikely.
Speaking entirely from personal experience, I see what the long rest but is going for. There have occasionally been situations where the party finishes a rest going into early hours of the morning at say 10AM, THEN they rest the same day at a decent hour after a grueling combat at 8pm for early job the next Day They got the 16 hours from 24 - 8. The problem is it necessitates mathing things out if say you have a few days of down time. My suggestion, as I see kinda what they're going for, after the end of a long rest, you must wait 12 hours before taking a long rest again. It makes math super simple, while still addressing a concern.
So, some massive spell changes are that Guidance is a reaction when a creature within 10 feet fails a check, Resistance is exactly the same as Guidance but for saves, and Prayer of Healing now also grants a short rest, so it's actually useful now.
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I still dislike Ardlings a lot. It feels like a catch all for Beast people. As someone who loves playing Tabaxi, Kenku and Owlins it seems to be replacing them. Maybe because they are lazy and dont feel the need to make stat blocks and individual histories of the races or maybe its because they want to streamline them. Either way it seems like a copout
Wish it was “ancestry” not “species” because then in character creation you’d have the ABCs, Ancestry, Background, & Class
That would be cool!
Yeah ancestry sounds more fantasy too. Species belongs in a sci-fi game.
Race is too small in its nomenclature to denote what is being discussed. Race, in the sense of Biology, is commonly used interchangeably with Subspecies, but has been known to also describe differences in individuals within the same subspecies. Species is used to describe organisms based primarily on ability to breed with one another. While that typically doesn't hold in fantasy settings, Species is the most accurate term to describe the differences in player characters as we know them.
That being said, Lineage or Heritage would be generally acceptable. I doubt they would use Ancestry since Pathfinder is already associated with that term.
@@Kaelyn91 You explicitly stated "species" doesn't hold in fantasy settings. Logically, if a concept doesn't hold, then it's inaccurate, false. It is because of the existence of half-breeds that makes "ancestry" actually more sensible, and we get the fun little ABCs to go with it.
The Dragonborn breath weapon difference from Fizbans that they also added here is:
Before, it was an entire action to use breath weapon
Now, you use a breath weapon instead of an attack, so if you have extra attack you can still attack after using a breath weapon
You said it so I didn’t have to! Thank you! :)
Thanks for the clarification!!
You also could choose to use the breath weapon twice if you were a class with multi attack and had a good opportunity. Love that we can change it between line and cone now though
@@JoeyTee420 The text says "When you use an attack action, you can replace ONE of you attacks", so no, unless you use action surge you can't use breath weapon more than once a turn.
But I don't think it would be OP if you could, its a nice homebrew
Also in fizbans you could use the breath weapon an amount of times equal to your proficiency bonus per long rest rather than once per short rest
I think I remember hearing that Tolkin used the word race because it sounded more aesthetically correct than species for the nature of the work. I kinda agree as species does sound to sff. I think Pathfinder 2nd uses ancestry, which I think sounds better for the fantasy aesthetic.
In the time Tolkien was writing, the term race was also more commonly used in other meanings than its normal one today. Darwin too used races to mean different kinds of animals about a century earlier. Words change their meanings and all that.
@@jbaidley People seem to forget that "the human race" is a common phrase. But this change is good regardles - like you say, meanings change.
I also prefer Ancestry, but I imagine WotC can't use it precisely because Paizo did use it.
Ancestry does sound better than race or species.
They should use Ancestry, Lineage, Roots... seriously anything but Race/Species both are so stiff/loaded words.
As the internet's resident Goliath Cleric, I approve of this UA.
Oh man! Thanks for tuning in!!
Happy birthday, Goliath Cleric
What kind of Goliath are you going to be moving forward?
Goliath monk, with a dip in cleric, hail dear fellow.
You don't own that concept! I don't see your name written on i... wait, my bad, please continue.
Correction:
Spirit Guardians always have been concentration.
Spiritual WEAPON was not, and in One DnD will be
Thank you! Thought I was misremembering til I busted out the player’s handbook
aw damn! That's a shame.
I know it probably should have been, but I have enjoyed it not being so
@@peterbillings3276 That's always been one of the powergaming comboes and I'm not surprised to see WotC working to reign in stuff like that. Think this whole update or redesign, whatever you want to call it, is a move to normalize features. They're buffing some of the worst feats, spells, and features and nerfing or removing some of the worst offenders. I like it in principle but we'll have to see how their execution is when the book releases.
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@@Xynth25 In my opinion, Spiritual weapon isn't really a powergaming combo. In conjunction with spirit guardians it is a very solid, very obvious combo that a lot of people employ to good success and fun. It doesn't perform the same as Polearm Master+Great Weapon Master+Sentinel, or Crossbow Expert+Sharpshooter or Drow Half-Elf+Elven Accuracy+Devil's Sight+Shadow Sorc+Hexblade Sorlock. Optimized powergaming annihilates it. My point being, it feels to me more like a bread and butter pillar of the class than an out of line broken combo that needs to be reined in. The version in this UA seems truly awful. I feel like I'd rather concentrate on Bless. Maybe it's okay at levels 3-4 but once you get higher level stuff it will be the same as concentrating on something like Silence, except Silence might actually be useful in specific contexts. I really hope it doesn't stick.
"resting during the day" and "skipping a long rest to reset yourself" sounds like depression insomnia, very relatable, good job WotC
They ARE listening to the community after all!
I also work at night, so resting during the day actually makes sense.
Just to clarify the Ardling Runner: the Dash action no longer doubles your speed, instead giving you a second move action. So at 2 proficiency bonus, you'd have 30ft for your first move and 30ft + 20ft for your second move.
That makes much more sense!!
Dash never doubled your speed in 5e, it let you move again as an action. Important distinction since dashing as action and bonus action would give you three moves in a turn, not four.
Ceratops dinos had skeletal structures similar to modern herd animals, like bison, so yes, they were probably pretty fast runners.
Thanks for the clarification!
And they're one of the options for racing in Tomb of Annihilation 😀
Also, while D&D is by no means required to follow current or accurate science anymore than Hollywood does, the velociraptor was actually not particularly fast despite the name. In terms of speed, think of them less as an ostrich or emu and more in the area of the wild turkey. Which is... admittedly faster than you might assume, but you're not going to lose a foot race to one with its little legs.
@@twelfthknight ,
Velociraptors are about the same size as turkeys, so that makes sense.
The big thing about the old dragonborn was that the breath weapon was an action rather than an attack that worked with extra attack. This version of dragonborn make good martials now, which fit many people's fantasy.
Yep, that’s definitely nicer!
For the Dash for Racer Ardlings - it does say "your Speed increases for that Action" - which makes me think it only applies to the movement of the dash action specifically. But definitely needs some clearer wording there.
That's how I read it too
So, at level 1, with 30' speed and +2 prof, your move is still 30', but then your Dash is 50'?
@@robbperez1278 Yup. And if you get multiple dashes, you also get the increase on every one, so, a hasted high-level monk Ardling can move at a baffling 600 feet per round.
@@robbperez1278 That's what I think - yes.
The issue with Scholar and using the Wisdom bonus for the skill is, a 1st level Cleric will likely already have a number of those skills. So either a player who wants to take scholar at level 2 needs to intentionally not take those skills at level 1 (which seem clunky and counter to Crawford's talk about making things easy on new players), or they need to change Scholar to let you assign that bonus to already known skills.
That’s a great point! A note about reassigning them later would be perfect
It also comes no where near the power of heavy armour proficiency.
Personally I liked the different walk speeds, made me appreciate the ideas that walk pace differs and never saw one less square as much of a disadvantage as long as they had another minor benefit to them, so it evens out
Yeah when you put it that way, having a shorter speed did lead to a cool benefit!
@@BobWorldBuilder appreciate the time you spent to reply. Your brilliant dude
They already have Custom Lineage, so i think they should just call it Lineage
That would certainly make sense! Lol
The problem there is that they’re already using lineage to refer to what used to be sub races. Though that’s an easy fix. They could just call them bloodlines or something so you’d choose a lineage and a bloodline.
Yes, I agree. I feel like if they use species everyone will just keep calling it race anyway. I also feel like “Kin” could be a good alternative for race/subrace.
both in english and in spanish i feel like, lineage for race and heritage for sub-race would work well
Honestly, they could've just said you can't long rest again for at least 12 hours and gotten what I assume is the desired effect. Helps cut down in 5-minute adventuring day shenanigans, but allows characters to go to bed early if they're really tired (ie used up most of their spells, features, and such). And it keeps weird delays like you're describing from piling up.
Yeah I like that
I’m guessing wizards are going to get something very similar to the Cleric’s Holy order, but you choose a school of magic that your wizard specializes in. Hopefully to make up for only getting four subclasses, instead of the usual eight that are in the 5e PHB. I would call it something like Arcane Elective or chosen study. 🧙🏽♂️
Oooh! I love that! If they do decide to recycle the wizard subclasses however, then I hope some get buffed. Like the conjuration wizard.
I think by only having 4 subclasses they can make them feel unique, and they can handle the schools of magic like you mentioned how they did with the Holy Orders. So having a Bladesinger subclass who specializes in Abjuration magic or a War Wizard sub class who specializes in Divination, etc.
@@andrewshandle Four subclasses would be good for more flavorful subclasses -- but I worry that may stifle particular classes like sorcerers, and warlocks. Hell even druid might suffer if they're limited.
@@andrewshandle If a Blade singer got any more defensive in power with abjuration they'd be pretty unkillable.
Oh, I love Arcane Elective. I'm stealing that.
I love the new Goliath! That's such a genius idea to have them have origins related to the various giants. Not sure if these are balanced necessarily, but I like this idea.
The giants are trash tho. I think this will lead into a fix on giants
Yeah it’s a cool concept! And there’s supposed to be a hardcover about giants in 2023
It's a shame from a lore point of view however. I agree this is neat and will be good for a lot of homebrew worlds but for the standard forgotten realm this is odd. Also what does this mean for the kther giant kin like firbolgs?
@@beatdownblackjack Firbolg may become more Fey
Multiple bonus action teleports with no verbal components definitely seems strong. Hahahah
Tiny addendum - 15:43 Should be referring to Spiritual Weapon, instead of Spirit Guardians.
Great video! I'm stoked to play a Cloud Giant Goliath.
Yep that’s my bad! Thank you!
It really does look like everyone's getting subclasses at the same levels, which is a great idea if only because you can now make cross-class subclasses, or at least class-group restricted subclasses. Like, instead of having a fiendish bloodline for sorcerers and a fiendish patron for warlocks, just have a fiendish subclass for the Mages class group (with wizards taking it being demonologists or something). The Fighter's Battle Master archetype would be a really fun option for Monk or even Rogue.
Yeah this could lead to a lot of fun ways to homebrew and cobble classes together :)
Battle Master is so nice for martials I honestly think some of the abilities it gets should be integrated into them to bring them a bit closer to the magic classes
If I wake up and engage in combat and hiking for 10+ hours, burning 5k+ calories, I could certainly fall asleep after just 12 hours awake. I'll always structure long rests around what makes sense to me, as opposed to using such a rigid written formula (which feels more like one of their dialed in rules to balance competitive games)
Great point!
Spiritual weapon was changed to have concentration. Spirit guardians always had conscentration
Ahh thanks for the clarification!
I personally really like the idea of varied movement even if i am slower
Yeah it’s not something I’ve ever heard people complaining about
@@BobWorldBuilder Usually I DM, but I have found a group that I get to play with (yay me for living in one of the biggest Cities, London). I chose to play a Halfling Sorlock, and because our DM only allows us to play from the PHB I get 25' move and I am more than happy with it, it leads to some funny party interaction where our dwarven cleric keeps trying to pick my character up and carrying me and I huffily ask him to put me down. Though I did allow myself to be carried once and got flashbacks to Gimli in the LotR films telling Aragorn to toss him across a gap at Helm's Deep but saying to Aragorn "Just don't tell the Elf".
@@BobWorldBuilder I've had players forget that their speed is lower than 30 because they're used to playing humans and such.
I've never had a player forget when their speed was higher than 30.
Take this anecdote for the grain of salt it's worth.
As a long term fan of playing Cleric, I absolutely love the changes that came out of this one. Turn Undead has felt quite useless in my experience, so doing straight damage rather than being based on CR is really quite useful without being broken. The fighting style esc. thing is also really neat, since clerics have always been kind of a Support, Tank, and Offensive class and now you have to pick which one to spec into first and that makes much more sense to me. Overall I think WotC nailed this one.
Agreed! I appreciate your enthusiasm about the changes
I agree… I always wondered “what does turn undead really mean”… do they keep going? for how long? Now there’s some clarity to what “Turn” means
@@toddgrx Turn, to ashes that is.
I really appreciate your enthusiasm and passion for DnD and One DnD :)
Thank you! :)
I don’t think Bob mentioned it, but Channel Divinity also changed to PB times per long rest! THAT’S A LOT OF CHANNEL DIVINITY
Idk if I said it either lol
Grave domain Clerics are gonna need to be changed then. With a high level rogue they'll just melt everything to the ground with damage.
@@powerpuff6872 I’m not even sure there’s going to be a Grave Domain Cleric… who knows what subclasses there will or won’t be?
And if you take the Thaumaturge Holy Order, you get one charge of CD back every short rest.
Yeah, that seems a bit strong. Having fewer uses but regening on a short rest encouraged short rests which tends to benefit martials (always nice), plus I never really found myself running out as a Cleric anyway. But it also meant you couldn't use a load of Channel Divinity's in one fight, they had to be spaced out. This just lets you nova with it in boss fights, which is what spellcasters are already good at.
Channel Divinity at level 1 is fantastic. I can't tell you how many new players I've DM'd for that didn't understand how central the ability was for the Cleric Class because it wasn't something that they had from the start (like Sneak Attack, for example)
Totally agree
The 5e long rest limits long resting to once per 24 hours, so the 16 hour thing is trying to word it in a more clear way. Probably makes more sense for it to be 24 hours after the start of the previous long rest, instead of 16 hours after the end of the previous long rest, tho
i think speed is something cool to play with, but like you said it's better to make some players feel fast than it is to make others feel slow. i like the goliath change
Yeah if it’s not gonna be standard, the ones who are different should be fun/better
I can see it being another (albeit small) incentive to play the -race- species.
That’s not what he said about the Goliath and the Orc. He said that before this, if someone wanted to play an aesthetically burly species from the PHB they would have to pick the Half-Orc (he actually said Orc but he was referring to the game as is) and that they don’t want to pigeon-hole people into one choice to fulfill their aesthetic fantasy (e.g. people who want to play little folk can go Gnome or Halfling). The decision to broaden the aesthetic and mechanics of the Goliath is unrelated to the beefiness comment he made, but rather a necessity of making Goliaths more flexible in accordance with the other PHB species especially the Dragonborn who he explicitly linked with the Goliaths thematically.
Nice
Sincerely, I didn't even knew there was a time limit where you couldn't take a long rest after the last one. It just seems so silly! And if people are abusing long rests somehow, the problem isn't in the long rest, but in these people.
The Dash Action has no impact on your speed, it instead adds extra movement based on your speed. So if you have a speed of 30, the extra movement gained by your Dash would be 50 ft at level 1 for a Runner Ardling. So your total available movement for that turn is 80 ft. This feature will synergize really well with rogues and monks who can take the dash action as a bonus action.
That makes way more sense!
I feel that since they’ve already given the Ardling features based on their animal characteristics, they might as well:
replace the divine magic ability with proficiencies in any two of the following skills: Acrobatics, Animal Handling, Athletics, Nature, Perception, Stealth, or Survival
Rename the Ardling to Beastfolk, or possibly keep it as “Beastfolk” may be regarded as an offensive term
Bring back the Aasimar and give them the og Ardling lineages, while allowing them the choice between being half-animal or humanoid angels
This way, people can play strictly animal-like characters, and humanoid angelic or angelic-animal characters
While they’re at it, they can create a Fallen Lineage for Aasimars (with chill touch, inflict wounds, and the like) and an Ascended Lineage for Tieflings (basically the “good” Tieflings who have access to sacred flame and healing spells)
I think they're presenting the Triceratops as a kind of "dino-rhino", so charging is thematic and possibly accurate.
Dashing in the same doc says "You take a bonus move". Move says "you go a distance equal to your speed or less".
So if you increase your speed by 20ft when you take the dash action, youll benefit from that twice within the turn. So a dashing level 3 racer ardling could move 100ft.
Now that makes sense!
Since the speed bonus is only added when the Dash action is taken, it would be a total of 80 ft at first level.
Thanks for the clarification!
Not only does Species sound more like a sci-fi thing, it also implies that half-orcs and half-elves (and any other half-something character) are sterile as different species cannot reproduce and produce a fertile offspring so species is very much the wrong term. If you really don't want to use the word race (which is the actual correct term) then use something like lineage or ancestry.
Hybrids aren’t always sterile.
@@waltascher but most are.
On the last bit, about the required time of 16 hours between each long rest. I can understand and appreciate the need to have such an established ruling, so players can't just "spam" long rests for some purpose that seems game-breaking. On the other hand, I usually find that taking a long rest at all is often a gamble. Maybe it's just the way my brother runs the game, but we are usually encouraged to just try to plow through events and locations, without a rest. A short rest may eventually be in view if we're at the brink of death, and out of spell slots. If we take a long rest, that's an extra 8 hours the enemy have to follow through with their evil plans, or for us to get ambushed, or those kidnapped civilians get sacrificed but we were too busy sleeping!
100%, long rests can be very balanced if the DM handles them well. If there needs to be a hard rule that restricts them, I would prefer it to be that you can only take a Long Rest once per day AND you must pass at least 10 (or so) hours between each LR.
I kinda dislike that, because there's been times my party has known we were going to be up early the next morning for some reason, so we want to have an earlier night. This ruling would technically prevent that. It feels like they're trying to regulate it too much. If a player is arguing with the DM, they need to just add something reminding the DM of rule 0, and to shut it down.
Yeah controlling rest is really important for a DM. I just like a more vague “once per day” or 24 hour period, compared to the 16 hour specificity
@@BobWorldBuilder My guess is it was to address something like 'I long rest at end of day' and then immediately 'I long rest at start of next day' which I've had players try and do in 5th (I didn't let them) to deal with exhaustion.
As someone who might have time to play D&D bi-weekly, but has been playing for 18 years and cares about the RPG, these videos are gold.
Thank you Bob.
Thanks a lot! :)
Thank you so much for going over these new changes and additions. It's incredibly helpful, and how you express your own feelings on each part is further engaging and gets me excited to try these out as well.
So thank you for taking the time to make these videos and share the information in fun, manageable segments. :)
I really appreciate your comment! Glad you like these videos :)
Just pointing this out. The Dash action has been revamped. Your speed doesn't double when using it anymore. Instead, you gain a second Move. Meaning, if each move can only use one movement type at a time if you have more than one. A Dash is a separate movement altogether. As an example, at 1st level, your speed is still 30 feet by default. But when you Dash, you can move 50 feet on top of that. By 17th level, if you use your normal Move and then Dash, you can move up to 150 feet in a single turn, which is bonkers.
This is just a rephrasing of the Dash action in the current 5E players handbook: "When you take the Dash action, you gain extra movement for the current turn. The increase equals your speed, after applying any modifiers."
That is, when you take the Dash action, you increase your available movement by your speed, nothing about doubling, so Move + Cunning Action Dash + Hasted Action Dash = 1+1+1 (=3) not 1x2x2 (=4) [The Haste effect of doubling your speed is unrelated to the Dash action, for a total of 2+2+2 (=6) not 2x2x2 (=8)].
Ohhhh I think this clears things up then
The modifiers include the Monk bonus. At level 2 a monk gets a 100ft with dash (40Move+40Dash+20Racer), at 18th it's 180ft (60M+60D+60R).
If you look at truesight the description suggests that illusions are being changed to use saving throws.
One thing I think sounds amazing is under Draconic Flight "Your wings appear to be made of the energy used by your Breath Weapon." Mentally, the imagery for this is so cool.
I agree!!
I still prefer 'Ancestry' over 'Species'.
Bob, I really appreciate the positivity in this video. And also the great information.
Thank you! :)
The way I understand it, the Dash action lets you move your speed again. So for your movement for your turn you move 30ft, then you Dash 50ft, for a total of 80ft moved in one turn.
When the creator actually adds the previous video tag in the video when they reference it, it's the little things we appreciate
All that weirdness with Long rest tracks pretty closely with my real world experiences with sleep schedules.
Joking aside, the other changes with Long Rest are pretty great as they give sort of a balancing mechanic to rest casting so that casters aren't just cheesing interpretation of RAW to gain a free casting of Mage Armor, but gaining a few spell effects at the expense of having a somewhat longer rest time.
Lol same. I think changing it to requiring at least 12 hours before resting though would solve both problems and makes sense to me.
Yeah I actually love how easy it is to interrupt a rest now lol
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that all the Goliath lineage options are based on attack rolls, meaning they work with Eldritch Blast as it is. If Eldritch Blast stays the same then Frost's Chill, even with its' prof. bonus per long rest limits, will be insane for its' movement speed slow. You can basically have your cake and eat it too by using Agonizing Blast, but also reducing their speed by 10 which is functionally very similar to knocking them back 10 feet.
For a fun punting build, create a Dao Genie patron Warlock with Frost Giant lineage and take the Crusher feat as your first level feat (if that's not possible, take it later). You can push enemies 5 feet per Eldritch Blast due to Crusher + Dao Genie's Bludgeoning damage and slow them down by 10 feet. Knockback can increase to 15 feet if you use Repelling Blast, which is high enough to cause falling damage.
Also Cloud Giant's ability is incredibly strong. It is a way better Misty Step and might honestly be too strong on casters since it isn't a leveled spell and thus you can cast a leveled spell after using it as your bonus action.
Well said!
i really like the Holy Order thing, makes it optional to be proficient in Martial Weapons and Heavy Armor as cleric. so many 5e cleric subclasses having those proficiencies would just be wasted on the character idea i had in my head. im glad there are some choices now
Yep I think that was a solid switch!
It's also nice for custom pantheons and worlds. Now the DM doesn't need to copy some domains just because they're super useful for players.
I feel like the change from "race" to "species" emphasizes more division between the groups. A race is one of many subgroups of one species of people, while species are distinct from each other and don't generally mix ("interbreed"). I don't care for the word "race" being used to describe physical and lineage characteristics of PCs, but I dislike the division that "species" implies more. I don't mind using the new term but it would be nice if they could come up with one that fits the mechanic better.
The way Daze is phrased, plus the undead cleric mechanic. It means that if you take an action, you cannot move. As an undead you can only take the dash action allowing you to move. So you can only move your speed as an undead. It is really powerful. It also cuts down their speed. They cannot move and dash. They can only either move normally or dash not move and dash normally.
this document was smaller, it doesn't contain all Priest Classes, but it does playtest the new rule of no longer having Lv. 1 subclasses
What you missed about the Dragon Breath Weapon was that it's back to being part of the Attack action, not once per turn. I didn't catch it because you only read the second column. But that's okay!
Ahh thanks for the clarification!
I don’t want movement speeds to be standardized myself. It makes sense that some things would be slower or faster (aren’t Centaurs 40?).
30 as a baseline and having small ranges above that seems fine and not too drastic of a change.
Otherwise why have movement speed be a stat in the first place outside of ‘all creatures have a movement speed of 30’ somewhere. Doesn’t seem as fun
That's totally fair
for that rest concern on it constantly pushing your rests back further and further each day, they could adjust it so that it's a 14 hour timer instead of 16 hour, so that you get a 2 hour leniency on the matter
Yeah that would solve it!
Long Rest: it also doesn't say a long rest is a maximum 8 hours. If things get thrown off, just rest for 10 hours, or take time breaking camp - maybe the halflings won't leave camp until they've had second breakfast ...
Racer: "for that action" I believe means for the DASH action, so only for the dash distance, not the original move action.
Yep that makes more sense!
I don't think they're ever going to comment on it, but the speed thing for small races is almost certainly because being "Small" in D&D (or being a Halfling) was basically describing mechanics for being a little person, or for being a person with some kind of disability that affects growth. They don't want to be in the business of saying "there are two kinds of people - tall, fast people who can hold longbows, and short, slow people who can dart between tall peoples' legs", although they'll be fine with having similar traits that are less similar to actual real-life people (especially real-life groups that are sometimes marginalized). Like, I'm sure they have no problem saying that pixies are Tiny and therefore can do those things.
It's the same reason that many species now let you choose Small or Medium. Frankly I think if they were redesigning D&D from the ground up today they would not include the Small category at all, and halflings, gnomes, goblins, kobolds, etc. would all be Medium.
Its a little weird to me that they changed race to species, due to the definition of both words, especially since stuff like half elves or half orcs exist
neither makes sense when applied to fantasy with the IRL meaning, they just get spooked when you say "race" so they changed it.
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz indeed, I think a word like "lineage" would make more sense
Different species can sometimes still produce offspring, like mules or ligers.
Race meant more sense from a genre point of view. "Species" is very modern and sci-fi esque and feels very out of place. Ancestry, race, lineage; those would make sense.
Unfortunately, WotC are run by a bunch of liberal racists that feel guilty about it. They project shit like "Orcs are black people." Onto normal people just playing a game. It's maddening.
@@waltascher the main thing is, interspecies breeding doesn't produce fertile offspring, but the half orcs, half elves, etc. Can
I think something to consider about a long rest is that they can probably be longer than 8 hours. I typically go with any period that the players are not engaged in combat or doing tasks that would otherwise force them to expend spell slots or abilities - then that’s a period of rest. They aren’t exercising those abilities and there have a chance to recover. Those periods can extend past 8 hours, they could be at a festival and looking for clues or socializing - I think that the rules for long tests are somewhat arbitrary but we only ever look at the minimum or rushed outcome.
Very true!
The math seems like it would be Speed x2 +20ft since you have to take the Dash to get the bonus. "When you take a 60ft(50ft) dash you increase your speed by 20ft" is basically how i am reading it for a +2 proficiency bonus.
Listing triceratops as a racing species might be a clever reference to the Tomb of Annihilation adventure in which you could bet on or even participate in triceratops races while in Port Nyanzaru.
True!!
Ted from Nerd Immersion was reviewing this live, and someone mentioned "Ancestry" instead of "Species", so you can have the "ABC"s of character creation: "Ancestry", "Background", "Class".
Now that would be smart lol
My understanding with having smaller origins be slower is that it was a tradeoff; as something like a gnome or halfling you would be harder to hit and have some benefits like lucky. I think they should definitely make up their mind if they want to standardize speeds or let there be faster or slower depending on origin/species
Agree feeling slow is worse then feeling that someone is fast
The extra speed for dash is only once since it specifies "for the dash action"
The dash action doesn't double your speed, it let's you use 'move' as an action, which is also why cunning action means you can move then dash then bonus dash all in one turn
Thanks for the clarification! That makes way more sense!
@@BobWorldBuilder it also means with cunning action both dash's would get the extra movement but the original move would not
I sometimes have checks not because the check can succeed, but because it's possible to fail catastrophically. If you're trying to convince the king to do something he won't do, I'm gonna ask for a check if you insist, and if you roll low enough the king's going to be angry
That new race in there definitely doesn't feel like Goliath, but it's definitely pretty cool mechanically. I would love to see it as like a generic giant-kin or something like that
Yeah basically what they said is that Goliaths have always been “the giant kin race” but they’ve only ever been the Stone Giant lineage. This will probably be expanded in more in the Giant-themed book coming next year
One important thing you missed about the cleric is Spellcasting and the wording in the class table. In the spells sections it used to say "Spell slots per level" (1 to 9), now it says "Prepared spells per spell level" (0 to 9). Which means that you now prepare cantrips as well, and the number of spells you can prepare equals to the spell slots you have (and not related to the proficiency bonus nor the spellcasting modifier)
Ahh that does sound more *streamlined*!
It does make it a bit unintuitive though. The old way let you prepare more variety of spells, where this way is restrictive. What if I didn't need any 1st level spells and wanted to prepare more 3rd level spells for that day? The old way allowed for that method but this new one doesn't and it seems a bit weird to me.
Not a fan and will give that as feed back already did with Bard in expert class playtest survey. IMO this is a step back not an improvement. Players in my group like the flexibility of preparation as it is now.
Disciple of Life now only applies to healing that occurs on the same turn the Cleric uses a spell slot to heal. This feels like how the feature was originally intended to work and it's how I already house rule it. Glad they revised it to remove the ambiguity.
Yeah it’s nice to see some of this being cleared up!
Getting rid of the small speed penalty is definitely to make people not feel slower. It’s like how in 5th Ed they got rid of stat penalties.
I’m with you bob on the giant speed. Keep it 30 and put it on an activatable ability like the giant form or even dash. Everyone having the same speed just cleans up play a ton in my experience
Glad you like the idea too!
No. Giants literally take bigger steps so it makes sense their stride is faster than ours.
@@dynestis2875 Maybe they take bigger steps less frequently
With regarding to dazed it was a condition fairly common in 4th edition which does pretty much exactly as described here.
Interesting!
For the Racer Dash bit, it reads to me that you have base Speed, but when Dashing you get 2xSpeed+10xProf. Bonus.
EX: Base Sped is 30 and Proficiency Bonus is +2. Dash makes it +30 more = 60. Racer Feature is 10 x Prof. Bonus (2) = 20. Total = 80 . (60+20)
Love the videos! Keep 'em coming, please.
Thanks for the clarification and the positivity! :)
Epic, the change to species from race is amazing.
The biggest difference I noticed for the Cleric is that you prepare only two spells per day at level 1 instead of level plus Wisdom mod. Unless I am misunderstanding the wording there. Not really liking how that feels
That’s going to be standard for all casters. Prepare spells equal to the spell slots you have. Also can’t load up on level 1 spells at later levels either. The only additional spells you get come from your subclass. It’s gonna impact the Wizard too.
@@XanderHarris1023 that sounds like trash
@@XanderHarris1023 That's what I was worried about, I love playing wizards
This finally makes me want to play a Goliath!
They were always pretty cool in 5e, but all the options are pretty appealing. I definitely like that they can get large!!
My favourite part of the UA is the calcification on rules for hiding, invisibility, influence, etc. Including the recommended DCs for such activities and the details in regards to perceiving and stealthing
I'm hoping they keep expanding on it though and don't sit on their laurels
Also on the rest part. I'm actually a fan of it because it's meant to discourage players trying to long rest after every encounter, to help DMs tax the parties resources and so when they stupidly decide to long rest in an unsafe space, and they get a random encounter and are attacked, it hampers them. It also makes random encounters potentially more impactful other than a minor inconvenience
I can’t remember which new video it was in, but Jeremy Crawford said that the new weapon options are going to be for warrior classes! When talking about the changes to great weapon master and sharp shooter, he said they wanted warriors to get cool damage dealing options from their classes, rather than needing to select specific feats.
I definitely agree with your long rest complaint, it doesn’t seem nitpicky to me at all. Overall though-very psyched for this UA 🎉
Slight clarification - the reason they included the goliath in the PHB now, is so that the *orc* doesn't have to be the only beefy/buff species that a lot of players default to. Adding the goliath gives 2 flavors of burly buff guy, so the orc/half orc doesn't have to be a monolith.
Also, forgot to mention how infectious your enthusiasm in this video is! I also can't wait to play the new system, I think their transparency with the rules testing and why they're doing it a certain way, and willingness to quickly adjust based on feedback, bodes REALLY well for the final product!
I suppose strictly reading it as written for the Dog variant of Ardling, it does specify "your speed increases *for that action* ". So your normal move is still 30 feet, but the bonus move granted by the dash action has its speed increased to 50 (up to 90 at higher levels)
It wasn't the damage that was weak about the breath attack. It was the fact that it used a full action, there are better spells and most martials can do more damage in a turn with their weapon
If you're a racer ardling with move speed 30 ft and you dash, your dash is boosted by Prof bonus times 10. So you have 30 ft movement, dash is normally an extra 30, then you tack on 20 extra feet while dashing.
The four Dragonborn Breath Weapons compiled
For all the DC is 8 + CON + Prof. Bns and on a succeded Saving Throw the damage is half.
PHB
Action. Once per Long Rest.
Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines:
* Size and shape (15ft cone or 5x30ft line)
* Damage type (Elemental type)
* Saving throw type (Dex or Con)
DMG: 2d6 dmg; increases by +1d6 at 6th, 11th, 16th.
Fizban
Action on your turn, can replace one of your attacks. Prof. Bns. times per Long Rest.
Ancestry (chromatic, metallic, gem) determines:
* Size and shape (5x30ft line {chromatic} or 15ft cone {the others})
* Damage type (Gem have non elemental, the others just elemental type)
DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg; increases by +1d10 at 5th, 11th, 17th.
UA 2022 Character Origins
Action, size and shape 15ft cone.
Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines the Damage Type (Elemental type).
DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg + Character level on a failed.
UA 2022 Cleric and Species
Action on your turn, can replace one of your attacks. Prof. Bns. times per Long Rest.
Size and shape 30x5ft line or 15ft cone.
Ancestry (5 colors and 5 metals) determines the Damage Type (Elemental type).
DMG: Dex save, 1d10 dmg; increases by +1d10 at 5th, 11th, 17th.
I really love the way you talk about these changes! I feel like there's a lot of negative complaining, and feeling that excitement and happiness for change really lifts my mood! Wishing you a great year
That divine shock is literally an almost exact copy of a spell from world of Warcraft called holy shock which could be used to either hurt or heal. Not complaining, just pointing it out because it's interesting
Like Dragonborn, Goliaths should have an elemental resistance based on lineage.
Hmm yeah I could see that
"Eventually you're gonna have to be resting during the daytime or skip a rest to reset it..."
Ahh, I remember college.
10:40 It says dash action which is separate from normal movement. I think all it means is when you kick it in gear and burn your action to dash you can add 20 ft at that time. Otherwise your movement is the same as everyone else.
edit: I agree with your nitpick on the movement speed. If you are going to make everyone the same make them all the same.
I think that the long rest wait time thing should exist but be reduced to a 8-12 hours. The only other idea I would have for it being that if your rest is interrupted by a fight, the time until your next long rest is not interrupted. So if you are awoken at 7 by a fight and go back to sleep after the fight to get your full rest, then waking up at say 9 instead of 8 then the time until your next long rest is not affected. My reasoning for this is so that everyone is aware of when they can get their next long rest by the time they go to sleep the day before without having to add extra math on to compensate for one fight.
I don't know about speeding tryceratops either, but a velociraptor is as tall as a chicken and not those killer reptiles from Jurassic Park. That beast was somewhat a species of oversized denonychus.
But I can picture in my mind an antropomorph tryceratops which is analog to a minotaur. Something like a bulky scale-covered humanoid with a three-horned head.
Quick clarification: I think Crawford meant that they didn't want orcs to be the only tough guys race. They made half-species to be closer to the base race, and made orcs fill the half-orc place. Goliaths are a second option to be a tough guys, and as part of that, get theming from different giants. I like it, its similar to dragonborn or tieflings where they get theming based on a subset of a particular monster
Really great breakdown of the new material sir! I'm glad I listened to you because I missed a few things that you saw!
Thanks! There’s a lot to try to keep track of. I certainly didn’t catch it all haha
dont apologize for nitpicking, thats the point of these playtests. the more refined the rules are, the less we need to change ourselves at the table. solid vid good takes
Ironically using "species" erases the kinship between the fantasy races and creates more separation between them. Not sure it's less controversial either ironically
That's what ya get for trying to fix a problem that never existed
It was never controversial. WotC is run by racists who project their racism onto everyone else.
4:50 Both scholar and thaumaturge should give an additional cantrip because if you don't get martial weapons you need cantrips to fight with.
I think thurmaturge needs more recovered channel divinity.
Damn, you had me dreaming they fixed Long Rests. They just need to make them only available in towns/villages! None of this 16 hour nonsense. Thanks as usual Bob!
Haha yeah that would certainly help! Sorry for the confusion
I completely agree with making long rests less available in the 'wild'.
That's how I run my games. I have a modified long rest. Not as robust as a true long rest.
Just throw in a monster, if it gets to much?!
How would you address Wilderness Campaigns or Mega-Dungeon. I have been in campaigns where it was literally weeks between visits to towns/villages or a dungeon delve that spanned multiple sessions. The only way to resolve that would be to add 'camps' to that list of rest areas and give alternative rules for long dungeon rests. Considering they seem to be moving more towards simplicity and the reduction of situational rules, the latter seems unlikely.
Speaking entirely from personal experience, I see what the long rest but is going for. There have occasionally been situations where the party finishes a rest going into early hours of the morning at say 10AM, THEN they rest the same day at a decent hour after a grueling combat at 8pm for early job the next Day
They got the 16 hours from 24 - 8.
The problem is it necessitates mathing things out if say you have a few days of down time.
My suggestion, as I see kinda what they're going for, after the end of a long rest, you must wait 12 hours before taking a long rest again. It makes math super simple, while still addressing a concern.
So, some massive spell changes are that Guidance is a reaction when a creature within 10 feet fails a check, Resistance is exactly the same as Guidance but for saves, and Prayer of Healing now also grants a short rest, so it's actually useful now.
But race is the correct usage of the word.. We use it wrong black and white are not races. Humans are all the same race.