Bro. I have like 2000 hours in smash ultimate and I don't have an online subscription or any friends. I'm a lab rat. How is this real?! How did I never come across this. Crazy!
I have never seen that Pac-Man tech before, that is insane 😩 And I will note that on that final clip, the Falcon Punch was b-reversed (?) along with the turnaround animation, making it a 360 punch
Pacman's hydrant push percent armour is absolutely mind blowing to me, please test other characters ! Is it only pacman or any character pushed by hydrant water ? What about the pacman stage water ?
What If I told you it wasn't so much the water pushing that gave him the armor but the starting position before his f smash? Notice how when pac runs into hydrant part of his body is cut off but will give him kind of a ghost push before the water. The water just carries him thru
5:14 they missed a huge part of this is the fact an anvil by itself would not have killed Jiggs at 60 there, but because Jiggs was on it, her own weight made the anvil hit as hard as normal and kill her. That's hilarious.
4:39 the 75m item combo, I think the banana gun was a way to have a 2nd banana peel on demand without letting krool trip on both peels at the same time
You guys should do a whole video, just testing and explaining the armor with Hydrant, Greninja's Up Special, Mario's FLUDD, etc. And test other projectiles too, like Falco's Laser, or Robin's Thunder.
As your merch is back.. Let me just say, i bought both the controller smash and the projectile shirt when the final design was uploaded.. AND BRO, THE QUALITY IS NUTS!! They have been washed atleast 20-25 times at this point and the print STILL looks crisp and clean.
Fun fact about my 75m clip, getting the 800 points at the start was actually important to the combo. The collectables you get get influence how the little flame guys move and how soon the big DK comes out. There's no specific way to know how it will influence it because it also changes every time you completely exit and reenter training mode, but yeah. I needed to get it or else the flame dude wouldn't have gone down the ladder when I needed him to
That "pac man go through projectiles with his up, side, and down smash" thingy was real mad crazy and awesome, even though I might be afraid if someone can do something (like roll, jump, shield, etc.) without a projectile thing while idk what to do if they know what I'm doing, but I'll think about it if I might do that or not against hero only tho That pac tech is still crazy and I like it lol
Could you please test if only Pac-Man gets that weird Heavy Armor while getting pushed by the water? Maybe its an attribute of the water for some reason and anyone can use it?
Steve probably kept zipping out from between the reflectors because they broke. Since it's a passive spell I'd imagine its break point is quite low, so you might actually get more amusement from a spacie reflector or something. IIRC, Ness's Forward Smash is the strongest reflector in this regard (or it was in the previous game), but I doubt you could apply it here due to the end lag.
8:30 wait hold up that's me! Lmao didn't expect that, and it's one of the few games where I played Sora online. But yeah I play with items online and bob-omb ruining your own stock happens all the time.
“Okay, let’s go” “Let’s go” “…I feel something in my brain” “I did not really well move this katana” “That’s okay, just call an ambul-“ *deeply sleeping*
I knew that Pac-Man could have armor while crouching and being pushed by water on weak attacks (some jabs and weak projectiles) but I never saw that with Smashs AND I AM A PAC-MAIN THIS MAKE NO SENSE!! (but you could have tried other attacks for pac man, such as tilts, charging up side B maybe, to see if it's only crouching and Smashing or if does on many attacks)
Does the water thing of pac man also apply to other Charakters? For example in doubles pacman puts down the hydrant and ganon charges fsmash. Does it work with squirtle and Mario water too? Please expand the testing
I'm gonna throw my guess out there that Pac-Man's evasion mechanic has to do with the same thing as Little Mac's up-taunt where he punches toward the screen - the Z-axis. Looks like Pac tilts a little with his moves, letting him move along the Z-axis around the projectile. The water pushing him gives him more forward momentum so he can pass by the projectile (he doesn't tilt forward for long enough otherwise), and Snooze itself has a "thin" Z-axis hitbox, allowing it to slip past Pac unlike "thicker" projectiles.
So going back to that clip of Mario’s FLUDD canceling momentum, I think I know what happened. If you look at the clip again, there’s no red sparks from Zelda’s dair, or really any visual cue that shows that it was a spike. So I believe that either: A. Zelda hit the sour spot on her dair and Mario’s FLUDD just increased the trajectory he was already going, or… B. Zelda hit a weak spike, so Ganondorf was sent down but not at a very fast rate, and slow enough to cancel the momentum and send him up. Either way, the setup seems to be not true, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem you can save ur teammates that way.
there were the hitstun, magic effects and percent from the strong d-air, so it wasn't a weak d-air (which still spikes - zelda's d-air only has meteor hitboxes), and zelda's d-air wouldn't outright kill at that low a percent from that high i think it was just weak enough to combine knockback with f.l.u.d.d. either way
I had that pacman armor thing happen to me against a point blank villager fsmash, I thought it was just a super specific interaction and maybe the water pushed pacman forward fast enough to dodge the bowling ball. I guess it happens with regular projectiles as well
For the hero one, it's because the water from the geyser technically counts as damage I think. You should test if it wakes you up from Puff sing as well.
Water from hydrant is a windbox that deals no knockback or damage, and you can clearly see the damage counter of pacman does not increase when the water pushes him, why do you think it "technically counts as damage" ??????? And damage does not matter , fox laser deals damage without waking up opponents from sleep.
I was thinking pac man's f smash hits the snooze so the snooze loses the hitbox before it hits pacman. But looking at the comments, i guess that's not it
Pause. Yo, so idk if it’s already been mentioned but I’ve kept seeing it in recent videos so imma just say it: The fact y’all got Trafalgar Law’s blade Kikoku, makes me love y’all even more!!! I’m a BIG One Piece fan and love to see y’all just using Kikoku as a prop. 🔴✊🏽✖️ Ok, resuming video.
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What if you push packman with other moves like mario DSpecial???
As a pac-main yeah we knew. You don't have to smash attack. You can crouch and still gain the heavy armour. And it's only against weaker projectiles.
Pac-mains make every smash game really dumb and really funny at the same time.^^
I had no idea and I've been playing ultimate since day one
Bro. I have like 2000 hours in smash ultimate and I don't have an online subscription or any friends. I'm a lab rat. How is this real?! How did I never come across this. Crazy!
I've put a lot time into playing pac-man and watched a few pro players like Tea but this is mind blowing to now know this.
@@Tonjit41 sadge :(. The only good thing about that is not having to deal witht he toxicity online.
I have never seen that Pac-Man tech before, that is insane 😩
And I will note that on that final clip, the Falcon Punch was b-reversed (?) along with the turnaround animation, making it a 360 punch
I wasn’t b reversed he just jumped with rar
Just turned around before jumping
@@chlli oh yeah, I see him turn on the ground now. Thank you for clarifying
This wasn't it but the 360 Falcon Punch is possible, I have landed a few. Ganon can do it too.
It was a slingshot into turnaround fp
Pacman's hydrant push percent armour is absolutely mind blowing to me, please test other characters ! Is it only pacman or any character pushed by hydrant water ?
What about the pacman stage water ?
Everyone is pushed
@@leothesleepingdog6055 that's not what I'm asking, I'm asking about the armour, does everyone get armour when pushed by water or not ?
@@leothesleepingdog6055 Lol
@@YounesLayachi I would like to know this as well
What If I told you it wasn't so much the water pushing that gave him the armor but the starting position before his f smash? Notice how when pac runs into hydrant part of his body is cut off but will give him kind of a ghost push before the water. The water just carries him thru
That Pacman thing really seems like something Pacman players could take advantage of
5:14 they missed a huge part of this is the fact an anvil by itself would not have killed Jiggs at 60 there, but because Jiggs was on it, her own weight made the anvil hit as hard as normal and kill her. That's hilarious.
Could that also work to kill a heavy like Bowser at like 90% since they add more power to the anvil??
4:39 the 75m item combo, I think the banana gun was a way to have a 2nd banana peel on demand without letting krool trip on both peels at the same time
yeah, the second banana gun was literally just for the peel lol
"Was that edited?"
"No that was a Min Min coming out of the Hero, idiot"
Amazing timing on VyQ's delivery
You guys should do a whole video, just testing and explaining the armor with Hydrant, Greninja's Up Special, Mario's FLUDD, etc.
And test other projectiles too, like Falco's Laser, or Robin's Thunder.
the little z cameo… perfection 😂
No wonder why c5 is so bad at smash
Ok no
I was not expecting that at all!
When?
THEY ARE A FAN OF LITTLE Z
when?
I love how technical smash review can get. And as always, the intro was on point.
As your merch is back.. Let me just say, i bought both the controller smash and the projectile shirt when the final design was uploaded.. AND BRO, THE QUALITY IS NUTS!! They have been washed atleast 20-25 times at this point and the print STILL looks crisp and clean.
Fun fact about my 75m clip, getting the 800 points at the start was actually important to the combo. The collectables you get get influence how the little flame guys move and how soon the big DK comes out. There's no specific way to know how it will influence it because it also changes every time you completely exit and reenter training mode, but yeah. I needed to get it or else the flame dude wouldn't have gone down the ladder when I needed him to
You should see if Mario's FLUDD acts the same way for pacman. Or if it's just a hydrant thing.
Why don't YOU test it?
@@DJack276 😔
@@DJack276 😔
@@DJack276 It'll have more outreach if Beefy Smash Doods covers it
@@DJack276 it's ok bro she ain't coming back. Time to focus on yourself king.
That "pac man go through projectiles with his up, side, and down smash" thingy was real mad crazy and awesome, even though I might be afraid if someone can do something (like roll, jump, shield, etc.) without a projectile thing while idk what to do if they know what I'm doing, but I'll think about it if I might do that or not against hero only tho
That pac tech is still crazy and I like it lol
The last clip was actually a slingshot falcon punch
Could you please test if only Pac-Man gets that weird Heavy Armor while getting pushed by the water? Maybe its an attribute of the water for some reason and anyone can use it?
Steve probably kept zipping out from between the reflectors because they broke. Since it's a passive spell I'd imagine its break point is quite low, so you might actually get more amusement from a spacie reflector or something. IIRC, Ness's Forward Smash is the strongest reflector in this regard (or it was in the previous game), but I doubt you could apply it here due to the end lag.
8:30 wait hold up that's me! Lmao didn't expect that, and it's one of the few games where I played Sora online. But yeah I play with items online and bob-omb ruining your own stock happens all the time.
Had no idea that Pac-Man has some kind of armor while charging a smash attack while being pushed by water...
Not the charge. As long as he gets pushed he is armored.
I had to watch that intro twice. I didn't even notice you didn't have the design on your shirt at first.
"F-Smash does not have invincibility!"
Hydrant: Well, you know that, and I know that, *but that Hero looks pretty stupid*
OK so years later pacman gets heavy armor for charge attacks during water hydrant. That's crazy.
Actually it isn't even for just the smashes. He gets it for existing.
this is the best way to get away form snooze 10:57
That pac man armor thing really surprised me I didn’t even know that was possible
“Okay, let’s go”
“Let’s go”
“…I feel something in my brain”
“I did not really well move this katana”
“That’s okay, just call an ambul-“
*deeply sleeping*
As a Pac-Man main…
I had no idea.
The rare triple Batman Smash Doods.
apparently pac man is actually supposed to be a weird character
I knew that Pac-Man could have armor while crouching and being pushed by water on weak attacks (some jabs and weak projectiles) but I never saw that with Smashs
AND I AM A PAC-MAIN
THIS MAKE NO SENSE!!
(but you could have tried other attacks for pac man, such as tilts, charging up side B maybe, to see if it's only crouching and Smashing or if does on many attacks)
Does the water thing of pac man also apply to other Charakters? For example in doubles pacman puts down the hydrant and ganon charges fsmash. Does it work with squirtle and Mario water too?
Please expand the testing
I'm gonna throw my guess out there that Pac-Man's evasion mechanic has to do with the same thing as Little Mac's up-taunt where he punches toward the screen - the Z-axis. Looks like Pac tilts a little with his moves, letting him move along the Z-axis around the projectile. The water pushing him gives him more forward momentum so he can pass by the projectile (he doesn't tilt forward for long enough otherwise), and Snooze itself has a "thin" Z-axis hitbox, allowing it to slip past Pac unlike "thicker" projectiles.
Nah. It's not evasion it's armor. It worked on Shiek needles too and they actually hit
I love learning new obscure character specific smash tech
The works best falco was in the background crazy
11:30 maybe the hurtbox shifting is *just* enough for the projectile to hit the water instead of Pac Man?
He takes damage from weak projectiles
It's armor apparently
So going back to that clip of Mario’s FLUDD canceling momentum, I think I know what happened. If you look at the clip again, there’s no red sparks from Zelda’s dair, or really any visual cue that shows that it was a spike. So I believe that either:
A. Zelda hit the sour spot on her dair and Mario’s FLUDD just increased the trajectory he was already going, or…
B. Zelda hit a weak spike, so Ganondorf was sent down but not at a very fast rate, and slow enough to cancel the momentum and send him up.
Either way, the setup seems to be not true, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem you can save ur teammates that way.
there were the hitstun, magic effects and percent from the strong d-air, so it wasn't a weak d-air (which still spikes - zelda's d-air only has meteor hitboxes), and zelda's d-air wouldn't outright kill at that low a percent from that high
i think it was just weak enough to combine knockback with f.l.u.d.d. either way
probably the water hitting bc the lean back on the animation and the hurtbox shift
The cameo is little z cosplaying falco 0:40
Ahh, I see they are men of culture as well (Little Z). Same vibe as when TerminalMontage made a Dunkey reference in his FORTNITE animation.
My favourite part of any episode is testing things.
0:13 Music is Star Light Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 1
After 1000 hours of pacman I still didn't know this
"we just bought new katanas, lets find any way we can use them in the intros" - c5 probably. but they dope so I don't blame them :P
I had that pacman armor thing happen to me against a point blank villager fsmash, I thought it was just a super specific interaction and maybe the water pushed pacman forward fast enough to dodge the bowling ball. I guess it happens with regular projectiles as well
i love testing episodes
I had no idea about the pac man heavy armor, that's so good
Man I get so hype when you guys try things out in the lab
7:40 use Franklin badge in custom smash ? Or a reflector spirit ? Or fox reflector and hold it forever ?
for the pac man one my guess is that the projectiles (as vyQ said) hit the water first but only while doing certain moves because of a hitbox shift
The minecart escaping the hero bounce setup is possibly due to the minecart being mass reflected
Is trafalgars sword in the merch shop?
FIRE! can't wait to get the merch!
vyQ playing with a sword is my new favourite thing.
That was a new Pac Tech for me.
No one gonna talk about the Law sword huh
Great video!
In the year 2022 what even is Pac-Man anymore?
Surprising number of banger clips this week good job team
The way they pronounce armor makes me smile.
They still waving around Law’s swords and acting like it’s nothing 😭
who also thought they circumsized c5 in the intro?
0:45 What is the BG Music?
I am the only one that heard Cfive saying dad when we see little z in the intro
This was a great episode!!
This pacman stuff has blown my mind
New BSD merch: meh
Showing off the OP merch with Kikoku: very jealous
when the crate came out i changed
Please test more about the Pac-Man thing lol.
y did I think he slashed of half of his body
What is the soundtrack playing in the background at 0:47 to 6:21?
That intro was like "ROOM: MERCH"
Trafalger D vYc
good to see the bsd fans entertaining bsd this episode.
It's the pull back from charging puts the water hit box before maybe?
What an absolutely absurd mechanic
Does hydrant heavy armor only work on pac-man or all characters?
What's your character select screen mod? Looks so good. Great video btw, interesting testing. :)
Never knew that about PACMAN
was a great ep!
Imagine using that reflected minecart in doubles. It gets a bit stronger and can confuse some opponents.
Is that Law's sword?? 😍
Yes new Pacman tech
Anyone know where to get that trafalger sword
For the hero one, it's because the water from the geyser technically counts as damage I think. You should test if it wakes you up from Puff sing as well.
Did you not watch the tests? Pac-Man stays charging. One frame asleep to be woken up from
Not one frame *
Water from hydrant is a windbox that deals no knockback or damage, and you can clearly see the damage counter of pacman does not increase when the water pushes him, why do you think it "technically counts as damage" ???????
And damage does not matter , fox laser deals damage without waking up opponents from sleep.
@@RamonAlonsoLopezMartinez idk I'm really stoned, I can't react to 1 frame
love your guys content. even thoo i no longer have a switch. yall keep me posted w/ smash. 🙏🏽
I was thinking pac man's f smash hits the snooze so the snooze loses the hitbox before it hits pacman. But looking at the comments, i guess that's not it
Do other characters get the armor as well if they get pushed by hydrant while charging?
Pac-Man can do so much whacky shiz that I’m not even surprised anymore.
Viq using Kikoku to put cFive in a new shirt! I'm sure you used "ROOM" to make that happen!
the quickconnect thing to send in clips isn't working for me I guess I'll just send clips in the reddit
Thanks for letting us know!
There was a problem on our end, should be fixed now! :)
Pause.
Yo, so idk if it’s already been mentioned but I’ve kept seeing it in recent videos so imma just say it:
The fact y’all got Trafalgar Law’s blade Kikoku, makes me love y’all even more!!! I’m a BIG One Piece fan and love to see y’all just using Kikoku as a prop.
🔴✊🏽✖️
Ok, resuming video.
Props to that falcon for the last clip that shit was cold
As a Pacman main I clicked so fucking fast
And did you know about this mechanic before ?
@@YounesLayachi No, but I love Pacman breaking the game look at my baby go
Perfect intro lmaooo
Wait, I thought you guys added the censor because of the Min Min comment lol
That timing was way too perfect
That certainly was one of the last clips of the video ever
I'm on mobile and trying to submit a clip, it doesn't have some approve button or something, and I tried 3 times, sorry if it shows the clip 3 times
those are some sick merch
Can we get the Projectile Barrage shirt back?
ngl i thought vyq was about to get circumcised
Not sure I know all of pacman's items but he definitely doesn't get an armoire