I stayed solo there two days and three nights mid November 2021 and yes there was a small archeology site. There is a box canyon you need to explore to the east. Living in Utah I am used to the rocky washboard backroads but the sand was no challenge to my 02 4runner. The full moon lit up my tent each night so that erased all the star gazing. Went out south to 89A which is longer but toward Jacob Lake it is alpine scenery.
I think he is not including the travel to and from as “days”; below might be an example starting on a Monday: M: Drive to WP, first night camp. Tu: Explore WP, second night camp. W: Explore more of WP, third night camp. Th: Drive back. That is 4 days if you count the two driving days (M and Th), but only 2 days if you do not.
We didn't do this, but we were just out by the Vermillion Cliffs. Being from New York city area, we learned a lot more about desolation on this trip than we ever have, which we are getting used to, but still scares us. This looks beautiful and like it's not crowded. Totally coming back to do this!
It's definitely a whole new different world out there compare to New York. We always packed all sort of self-rescue items just in case. Hopefully, you guys get to come back and do it. If you feel unsure, there are tours that offer to drive you out there. 😊
Very cool place! I think it would be good to have another vehicle along - we did a lot of crazy roads in Baja and always felt better with 2 vehicles. Narration & info given were top notch!
Well narrated video. Thanks especially for describing the road (sand) conditions since my experience in deep sand is limited. I do have a shovel and Maxtracks. That is a long way out from the main road to get stuck. Thumbs up.
Great info!. I have a decent amount of offroad experience, but more in major mud than sand.. I'm renting a Subaru Crosstrek (AWD) for this trip and I'm pretty certain we'd be fine.. but getting stuck with 3 small kids would suck. I think we'd be fine if the weather is good, but " waist deep quick sand" concerns me lol
Luckily we didn't encounter any of that! Even though there might not help in that situation, some sand tracks might help you get out of lesser situations. We hope you guys have a great time!
Enjoyed the video! White Pocket is a fascinating place, and you don’t need a permit to explore it. If you are looking for an incredible place to video or photograph, this is the place.
Hello, thank you very much for the video and the advice. We want to do this route in August with an Infinity GX80 4WD Vehicle. Do you think this vehicle is suitable for this route? . Thank you so much
Hey! Sounds like the right gear for the job. Does it have high clearance? Just be sure to bring a tracker incase you get stuck and a ton of water. It is going to be really hot out there!
@@JoseAntonioEscobar-zv8uy I feel like that should be enough. you mainly want to clear the crown of the road. be safe out there. let us know how it goes.
@@LiveThatAdventureDone!!, but not with the vehicle we expected, but with a brand new Cadillac Escalade 600. It has worked great for us in 4Hi traction and offroad mode activated. At no time have we gotten stuck, even though on House Rock Valley Road we did begin to have doubts due to the huge puddles of mud from the storms the night before. But finally we reached the Cottonwood car park without problems, we visited the recommended points and returned to the hotel. Thank you very much again for your advice.
@@JoseAntonioEscobar-zv8uy that's so awesome! we are stoked that you made it and got to experience white pocket! wow! an Escalade huh? you guys ripped a pretty fancy car through the desert! glad it made it without any problems especially considering the mud! thanks for the trip report! glad ya had fun!
You go over pass to Pakoon to mud mountain area to wolf hole up black rock or not, then to school house, up to Trumbull, Toroweap. Way better than white pocket. Or you can go in Bunkerville over Whitney Pass. Hot sand is harder to drive than cold. Seriously watch the Hurricane UT recovery guy videos. Or call him. The BLM outdoor rec managers know all. Except weather conditions.
@@overthetip Thats good to know. I have a decent amount of offroad experience, but more in major mud than sand. I'm renting a Subaru Crosstrek (AWD) for this trip and I'm pretty certain we'd be fine.. but getting stuck with 3 small kids would suck. Did you have any trouble in the Pilot? I'd say thats about the same profile as the Subaru. I think we'd be fine if the weather is good, but " waist deep quick sand" concerns me lol
Great video. 👍 You can go in Limekiln down to left and there are nice formations. Don't go up backside of Black Rock. Awful road. 😖 Get the map. The big one. BLM AZ STRIP FIELD OFFICE maybe you can get it online now.
@@LiveThatAdventure they mark stuff but if you do not have THE MAP. Get it. It's 80x200 miles out there 4600 miles of roads. You go in House Rock, Limekiln, Whitney aka cedar pocket.
@@LiveThatAdventure you can go in by black Rock road too, it runs up to black rock but you definitely want your jeep for that one. Or grand wash. Manual transmission or cooler. If hot it will fry your trans.
Nah white pocket was melted just like every other melted buildings in the desereted areas that was hit was the same weapon so nothing ever grows again in that area
Looks like a giant lump of fossilized flesh with muscle fibers and some scales still attached to it in places, left over and exposed from Noah's great flood in : Genesis 7
@@headlessspaceman5681 first off, we aren't cashing in on a well kept secret. After failing to get the permit for the wave, the ranger told us about this spot and gave us a pamphlet about it. Secondly, this is public land meant for everyone's enjoyment. We always advocate for responsible recreation and practicing leave no trace. And lastly we are trying to do the right thing by giving people that are planning to visit a realistic expectation of what to expect. On your next visit would you prefer to be stuck behind a family trying to get out there in a sedan? I doubt it. I wouldn't be so quick to judge people and their intentions without knowing what you are talking about. Have a good one, and don't forget to like comment and subscribe 🤣🤙
Dude...what's with the LONG VOWELS??? "You'll need 'AYE' 4 wheel drive... Make 'AYE' right turn... It took 'AYE' lot of time..."??? You sound 'AYE' bit like 'AYE' police officer.
Ha! Indeed. That's why I have NOT started one! Apologies for NOT mentioning that I otherwise appreciate your RUclips channel & all the great information! Cheers@@LiveThatAdventure
I stayed solo there two days and three nights mid November 2021 and yes there was a small archeology site. There is a box canyon you need to explore to the east. Living in Utah I am used to the rocky washboard backroads but the sand was no challenge to my 02 4runner. The full moon lit up my tent each night so that erased all the star gazing. Went out south to 89A which is longer but toward Jacob Lake it is alpine scenery.
Your math needs help!
If you stayed 3 nights, than you were there for 3 days also genius
I think he is not including the travel to and from as “days”; below might be an example starting on a Monday:
M: Drive to WP, first night camp.
Tu: Explore WP, second night camp.
W: Explore more of WP, third night camp.
Th: Drive back.
That is 4 days if you count the two driving days (M and Th), but only 2 days if you do not.
@@GratefulOverlander You're not very bright.
Its a nice place to drive around. Very imformative video. Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much! We are glad you enjoyed it!
We didn't do this, but we were just out by the Vermillion Cliffs. Being from New York city area, we learned a lot more about desolation on this trip than we ever have, which we are getting used to, but still scares us. This looks beautiful and like it's not crowded. Totally coming back to do this!
It's definitely a whole new different world out there compare to New York. We always packed all sort of self-rescue items just in case. Hopefully, you guys get to come back and do it. If you feel unsure, there are tours that offer to drive you out there. 😊
@@LiveThatAdventure definitely. You gave great visual directions too if we try. Thanks again
Very cool place! I think it would be good to have another vehicle along - we did a lot of crazy roads in Baja and always felt better with 2 vehicles. Narration & info given were top notch!
It's a beautiful place. And we agree, it would be good if you have someone else with you. Otherwise, bring a GPS tracker/beacon just in case. 😊
Well narrated video. Thanks especially for describing the road (sand) conditions since my experience in deep sand is limited. I do have a shovel and Maxtracks. That is a long way out from the main road to get stuck. Thumbs up.
Thanks a ton! Ya you definitely wouldn't want to get stuck out there. I might recommend adding a tire pump to your kit in case you need to air down.
Wow, thank you for this great tip! 😃👍
Glad you enjoyed it Dirk!
So cool! Thanks for the details on how to get to the area.
No problem! We definitely do want to see anyone get stuck out there! :)
Amazing video. Very informative. Thanks a lot.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you!
☆☆☆☆☆WWWOOOWW EXCELLENT VIDEO, THANKS FOR THE INFO HOW TO GET THERE WAS SO CLEAR. IT'S AWESOME ☆☆☆☆☆
Thank you so much! Hopefully you can get out there and check it out!
Cool! Love it
Glad to hear it! It's such a cool spot. We really want to go back 😎
Great info!. I have a decent amount of offroad experience, but more in major mud than sand.. I'm renting a Subaru Crosstrek (AWD) for this trip and I'm pretty certain we'd be fine.. but getting stuck with 3 small kids would suck. I think we'd be fine if the weather is good, but " waist deep quick sand" concerns me lol
Luckily we didn't encounter any of that! Even though there might not help in that situation, some sand tracks might help you get out of lesser situations. We hope you guys have a great time!
You need a four-wheel-drive for those roads
If you take your rented Subaru on raods like that, it will void the contract
Enjoyed the video! White Pocket is a fascinating place, and you don’t need a permit to explore it. If you are looking for an incredible place to video or photograph, this is the place.
Totally agree! It's incredible. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hello, thank you very much for the video and the advice. We want to do this route in August with an Infinity GX80 4WD Vehicle. Do you think this vehicle is suitable for this route? . Thank you so much
Hey! Sounds like the right gear for the job. Does it have high clearance? Just be sure to bring a tracker incase you get stuck and a ton of water. It is going to be really hot out there!
@@LiveThatAdventure Hey, it's 9,2 inches ground clearance. ¿Enought?, Thanks a lot!!
@@JoseAntonioEscobar-zv8uy I feel like that should be enough. you mainly want to clear the crown of the road. be safe out there. let us know how it goes.
@@LiveThatAdventureDone!!, but not with the vehicle we expected, but with a brand new Cadillac Escalade 600. It has worked great for us in 4Hi traction and offroad mode activated. At no time have we gotten stuck, even though on House Rock Valley Road we did begin to have doubts due to the huge puddles of mud from the storms the night before. But finally we reached the Cottonwood car park without problems, we visited the recommended points and returned to the hotel. Thank you very much again for your advice.
@@JoseAntonioEscobar-zv8uy that's so awesome! we are stoked that you made it and got to experience white pocket! wow! an Escalade huh? you guys ripped a pretty fancy car through the desert! glad it made it without any problems especially considering the mud! thanks for the trip report! glad ya had fun!
I've been to White Pocket, fabulous place! The locals describe the rock as "elephant skin." :)
That's an excellent description!! It does look like elephant skin. 🤯
We love it there. Next time we want to camp out. I've never heard the elephant skin thing, but that totally makes sense!
You go over pass to Pakoon to mud mountain area to wolf hole up black rock or not, then to school house, up to Trumbull, Toroweap. Way better than white pocket. Or you can go in Bunkerville over Whitney Pass. Hot sand is harder to drive than cold. Seriously watch the Hurricane UT recovery guy videos. Or call him.
The BLM outdoor rec managers know all. Except weather conditions.
Just seen the lady standing by a ruined sphinx
Is Kanab or Page closer? How long does it take to get there from either?
kanab is 72 miles and 2 hours 13 min away. page is 89 miles an 2 hours and 22 min away
In depth description of how to get there and all.
We easily made it with a Honda Pilot (AWD, not 4WD). Totally worth it, this place is breathtakingly beautiful.
That's awesome!! Glad you guys made it without any problems! 😁👍
@@LiveThatAdventureThanks! I guess we gambled it a little, but everything went smoothly :)
@@overthetip Thats good to know. I have a decent amount of offroad experience, but more in major mud than sand. I'm renting a Subaru Crosstrek (AWD) for this trip and I'm pretty certain we'd be fine.. but getting stuck with 3 small kids would suck. Did you have any trouble in the Pilot? I'd say thats about the same profile as the Subaru. I think we'd be fine if the weather is good, but " waist deep quick sand" concerns me lol
I'm Dying To Hike White Pockets, Don't Know If I Can Make The Drive With My 11 Acura MDX AWD
Great video. 👍 You can go in Limekiln down to left and there are nice formations. Don't go up backside of Black Rock. Awful road. 😖 Get the map. The big one. BLM AZ STRIP FIELD OFFICE maybe you can get it online now.
Awesome we will definitely look into that. Thank you for the heads up 😁👍
@@LiveThatAdventure they mark stuff but if you do not have THE MAP. Get it. It's 80x200 miles out there 4600 miles of roads.
You go in House Rock, Limekiln, Whitney aka cedar pocket.
@@LiveThatAdventure you can go in by black Rock road too, it runs up to black rock but you definitely want your jeep for that one. Or grand wash. Manual transmission or cooler. If hot it will fry your trans.
@@LiveThatAdventure Jon is outdoor rec manager or was
@@LiveThatAdventure live hard love hard channel has great 4k video and those 2 have been everywhere. Socal.
Not Colorado or Wyoming yet.
I see perfectly laid bricks in some areas
And don't be afraid to bring some healthy munchies for those hoofed residents!
They are so cute! ❤️
Fossilized giants from Noah's flood' .... look up :
Mud Fossil University
Thanks for sharing.
It's wood
Dragon's Lair
It totally looks like it could be!
The Bible's flood did that...
Nah white pocket was melted just like every other melted buildings in the desereted areas that was hit was the same weapon so nothing ever grows again in that area
Looks like a giant lump of fossilized flesh with muscle fibers and some scales still attached to it in places, left over and exposed from Noah's great flood in : Genesis 7
This place used to be a well-kept secret. I hate these videos and channels that just want to cash in on it. They don't care.
@@headlessspaceman5681 first off, we aren't cashing in on a well kept secret. After failing to get the permit for the wave, the ranger told us about this spot and gave us a pamphlet about it. Secondly, this is public land meant for everyone's enjoyment. We always advocate for responsible recreation and practicing leave no trace. And lastly we are trying to do the right thing by giving people that are planning to visit a realistic expectation of what to expect. On your next visit would you prefer to be stuck behind a family trying to get out there in a sedan? I doubt it. I wouldn't be so quick to judge people and their intentions without knowing what you are talking about. Have a good one, and don't forget to like comment and subscribe 🤣🤙
Dude...what's with the LONG VOWELS??? "You'll need 'AYE' 4 wheel drive... Make 'AYE' right turn... It took 'AYE' lot of time..."??? You sound 'AYE' bit like 'AYE' police officer.
🤣🤣 If you want people to nitpick the craziest things... start a youtube channel
Ha! Indeed. That's why I have NOT started one! Apologies for NOT mentioning that I otherwise appreciate your RUclips channel & all the great information! Cheers@@LiveThatAdventure
@@markwpatterson it's all good man! I was just messing with ya 🤣🤙