1.Berserkers builds into zephyr now if you clicked on it 2.Navori has been non crits since the mythic item removal 3.Your bleed on Yun tal is ad scaling so you should go another ad item second
Navori currently increases non-ultimate ability damage that scales with crit, and the reset on autos is 12%. The upped that to 15%, added a bunch of attack speed and gutted the cost of the item. It doesn't really make sense to build it on live without other crit items, now it sort of does.
@PJSM94 ya, but it didn't have IE locked for him if you look back in the video. And to be fair, navori no longer augments your crits anymore. So you can now build the holy trinity, IE Navori and rageblade.
One thing that didn't come up in the video, supposedly Zephyr now builds out of bererker's greaves and grants slow resist in addition to extra movement speed compared to tier 2 boots, but it can only be built at level 15+.
Yun Tal "bleed" does stack, and that is kind of insane to think about, I do think that this item is going to be busted in some champs that like stacking multiple attacks. Shaco with that shit will be nasty because the clone does apply on hit stuff on a smaller powerlevel.
Does the PTA stack now?? So like you get 8% from one target and as long as the buff last you'll do 8%, but if you hit another champion (like the Warwick) and get another 8% are you now doing 16% bonus damage?
I think the Trynd build path is going to be Zerks into Navori into InfEdge (You can build them both now, Fogged!), then another hefty AD item like Ravenous or upgrade your Zerks into Zephyr since the raw stats from that are insane. I do think Trynd is going to get 50% crit on his passive now though. Do it again and try and be the most optimal just to see how it'd go!
I mean, Trynd was definitely more satisfying in seasons before Mythics. Season 8-10 were way more fun, and baseline crits were nerfed when Mythics released.
You should choose IE over navori if you want to use Yun. Yun scaled with AD AND has damage over time, so more AD and stronger hits farther apart are better for DoT. Either way, idk if its very good anyways..
the fact that navori flickerblades scales extremely good with onhit because of the high attack speed makes that items really strong. I think its gonna be crazy on Tristana too
RIP Tryndamere. No extra range from lethal tempo, less dmg ( new items no more ad), zero tenacity, no haste (ER and NAvori no more haste), IE plus Navovri still forbidden for us, overgap crit ( no benefits), ghost nerf. Welcome to the mid season fellas
I feel like Jhin is the biggest winner this coming patch, since he gets the most out of all the changes, AS just increases his ad all the movespeed is great on him
damage wise he benefits more from flat ad than from attack speed since attack speed scales his damage at a low ratio but the MS increase from all the attack speed will make him zoom like racecar. Also getting to a more reliable crit rate faster with the 25% per items is huge quality of life.
@darealrulezbreaker9493 true but the 80 ad from ie will be scaled up pretty darn well. I don't know if the dot from that new item is gonna be good on him though. But who knows how he gonna build in that new patch
I feel like there is going to be a lot of testing needed to figure out trynd's build now that lethal tempo is dead. Phantom Dancer feels like it is a must though. Negates the loss of lethal. You are losing just SO much attack speed.
@@foggedftw2 IE not have any unic passive even now - crit damage modificator now is badic stat - if we can by more than 1 IE we can also stack crit damage modifier
Some questions for you: Does Yun Tal work with Collector? I'm thinking it should. Might be a fun video. Does Yun Tal work with Serylda's Grudge? I have no idea on this. Might be amazing for Hail of Blades Lethality build. Does IE crit amp work with Yun Tal? I'm thinking it should not. Been enjoying your content for a few years. Thank you for your work.
VS minion (zero armor) 212 BA 306 Crit BA 219 Spin VS WW 161 BA (25% dmg reduction) 276 Crit BA (Only 10%! dmg reduction) Spin vs ww should be 299 to kill him?? 575 - 276 = 299 575 crit + Spin WW have 526HP when he died. I think i miss something 8:17
All these changes suck the life out of trynd. They basically gave him little items to work with when his options were already limited as it was. They need to give him a actual complete rework because its frustrating constantly being at the mercy of adc balancing.
I think they look like huge nerfs to tryndamere, his win rate is going to plummet so bad. Literally all they have to do to fix the entire aspect of critical strikes in LoL is to make yasuo and yone not get double crit. That’s the only issue, but they like champs making highlight reel plays so can’t do that 😢
these changes look horrible, I have to be honest. lack of Tenacity sounds really bad and good items being nerfed and then bringing in more items that are bad just seems so counter to what this game needed right now.
Yasuo is extremely bellow average on live servers, even more at high elo, yone is busted yes, but his kit is busted with any rune honestly. Lethal in my opinion is a extremely toxic rune, that gave way more stats than any other rune in the game, that's why they kept nerfing it "like they did to old conqueror" and it was still strong "conqueror after some nerfs is balanced".
@@VigaveFoc not sure why you think Yasuo is below average. In my elo like I already mentioned, it's either pick or ban. Buff of IE, and combination of death stance and Jak Sho makes him and Yone very difficult to deal with
@@MasonStoijcklosing lane to a yone or yas spells skill issue. If a yone or yas if dominating your game they played well to do so its so simple. Theres arguments to make against yone ill entertain but yasuo is a pure skill issue simple.
That Warwick completely vanished at 8:17, I had to watch it three times to appreciate what happened. Fogged was at 4 HP when he killed him.
well to be fair ww was lvl 5 and fogged 8, thats a factor too
Yeah me too , I don't even think the spin damage went off I think it was just PTA
Where did he go?!😂
The spin crit for 575. Has that always been a thing?
Also you CAN buy Navori and IE. It is not "locked" when you buy either, and have tested myself on PBE, that you can purchase both.
1.Berserkers builds into zephyr now if you clicked on it 2.Navori has been non crits since the mythic item removal 3.Your bleed on Yun tal is ad scaling so you should go another ad item second
Navori currently increases non-ultimate ability damage that scales with crit, and the reset on autos is 12%. The upped that to 15%, added a bunch of attack speed and gutted the cost of the item.
It doesn't really make sense to build it on live without other crit items, now it sort of does.
@@PJSM94 I forgot about that second part of navori
17:55 uh oh, looks like fogged is sleeping on the couch tonight
18:25 (chat box) yep, he's doomed lol
27:07 yeah
Um you can build navori and IE now since Naovori doesn't give extra ability dmg based on crit anymore
Weird. The tooltip in the shop says it shares a unique passive.
@@PJSM94They don't update some tooltips on pbe
@PJSM94 ya, but it didn't have IE locked for him if you look back in the video. And to be fair, navori no longer augments your crits anymore. So you can now build the holy trinity, IE Navori and rageblade.
One thing that didn't come up in the video, supposedly Zephyr now builds out of bererker's greaves and grants slow resist in addition to extra movement speed compared to tier 2 boots, but it can only be built at level 15+.
And extra attack speed
Yun Tal "bleed" does stack, and that is kind of insane to think about, I do think that this item is going to be busted in some champs that like stacking multiple attacks.
Shaco with that shit will be nasty because the clone does apply on hit stuff on a smaller powerlevel.
Does the PTA stack now?? So like you get 8% from one target and as long as the buff last you'll do 8%, but if you hit another champion (like the Warwick) and get another 8% are you now doing 16% bonus damage?
Also...I don't think infinity edge is locked...there wasn't a lock symbol on it
good question.. but i think it would be OP if that were the case so i doubt it.
I think the Trynd build path is going to be Zerks into Navori into InfEdge (You can build them both now, Fogged!), then another hefty AD item like Ravenous or upgrade your Zerks into Zephyr since the raw stats from that are insane. I do think Trynd is going to get 50% crit on his passive now though. Do it again and try and be the most optimal just to see how it'd go!
Most satisfying thing about trynd is kraken pd with lethal tempo they ruined him. Remember the old build Kraken Navori ie and last seryldas pd?
I mean, Trynd was definitely more satisfying in seasons before Mythics. Season 8-10 were way more fun, and baseline crits were nerfed when Mythics released.
You should choose IE over navori if you want to use Yun. Yun scaled with AD AND has damage over time, so more AD and stronger hits farther apart are better for DoT. Either way, idk if its very good anyways..
It feels more kitted for ADCs than Trynd
@@titusfortunus2916 You can build both now.
What are your thoughts on grasp trynda with lethal tempo gone
With that first item, do you think you can do a crit darius? His passive bleed plus that item might be nutty.
Could do Jax with Nivori and shogans
Btw you didnt see but you can build both IE and Navori, theres no lock on IE because Navori isnt a crit amp item anymore
The moment he said lethal tempo is gone I almost through my phone across the room.
the fact that navori flickerblades scales extremely good with onhit because of the high attack speed makes that items really strong. I think its gonna be crazy on Tristana too
After building navori flickerbalde infinity edge wasn't locked???
RIP Tryndamere. No extra range from lethal tempo, less dmg ( new items no more ad), zero tenacity, no haste (ER and NAvori no more haste), IE plus Navovri still forbidden for us, overgap crit ( no benefits), ghost nerf. Welcome to the mid season fellas
I feel like Jhin is the biggest winner this coming patch, since he gets the most out of all the changes, AS just increases his ad all the movespeed is great on him
damage wise he benefits more from flat ad than from attack speed since attack speed scales his damage at a low ratio but the MS increase from all the attack speed will make him zoom like racecar. Also getting to a more reliable crit rate faster with the 25% per items is huge quality of life.
@darealrulezbreaker9493 true but the 80 ad from ie will be scaled up pretty darn well. I don't know if the dot from that new item is gonna be good on him though. But who knows how he gonna build in that new patch
That's weird tho. Either you overcap with crit or you are stuck at 90%. So you only need 2 crit items basically?
I feel ike the bleed one is totally a item for adcs in sinergy with runans, perma refreshing it in tfs
That item in conjuction with Collector and Scorch rune is gonna be fun lol.
I feel like there is going to be a lot of testing needed to figure out trynd's build now that lethal tempo is dead. Phantom Dancer feels like it is a must though. Negates the loss of lethal. You are losing just SO much attack speed.
Hey Fogged! Would you try a "No components, only completed items" Challenge?
I didnt see a lock on IE after the navori purchase you can but them together
they both have the unbounded unique
@@foggedftw2 IE not have any unic passive even now - crit damage modificator now is badic stat - if we can by more than 1 IE we can also stack crit damage modifier
@@foggedftw2 all you had to do was build the items and you would’ve know this was wrong lol
Could we run hail of blades?
I feel like navori IE ravenous would be a pretty good combo
U can also upgrade breserkers
can you actually not but navoir and IE? I swear it wasn't locked in the buy menu
i dont think it makes sense to go yun tal and navori because the yun tal burn scales with ad and you get zero ad from navori
it one shotted him idk because you were level 8 and he was 5 but that was sick gg nice video
Some questions for you:
Does Yun Tal work with Collector? I'm thinking it should. Might be a fun video.
Does Yun Tal work with Serylda's Grudge? I have no idea on this. Might be amazing for Hail of Blades Lethality build.
Does IE crit amp work with Yun Tal? I'm thinking it should not.
Been enjoying your content for a few years. Thank you for your work.
the DoT of Yun Tal never crit in the video so since it apparently cant crit im pretty sure that the IE crit amp doesnt affect it either.
You can make Zephyr from the boots now.
Oh, they brought back the Feast mastery, but without the insignificantly tiny mana restore.
VS minion (zero armor)
212 BA
306 Crit BA
219 Spin
VS WW
161 BA (25% dmg reduction)
276 Crit BA (Only 10%! dmg reduction)
Spin vs ww should be 299 to kill him?? 575 - 276 = 299
575 crit + Spin
WW have 526HP when he died.
I think i miss something 8:17
hey mr fogged. TRYNDAMERE'S BACK BABY!
18:05 rip penta
the navori seems like is gonna go crazy on kayle late game
Pantheon with flickerblade will go nuts
25% CRIT IS BACK FUCK YES
Why did it sound like a Yi was doing 2 frames of meditate for the whole game lol
Tank Karma with navori seems nuts
yun tal + lethality jhin with collector will be disgusting
where can i see patch notes?
All these changes suck the life out of trynd. They basically gave him little items to work with when his options were already limited as it was. They need to give him a actual complete rework because its frustrating constantly being at the mercy of adc balancing.
You can go navori and ie now btw
I knew you'd be here for me to let me know what to expect with all these changes. Tyfys.
Just as I was picking up Trynd and winning consistently this happens 😢
Wait wtf? That kill on ww was nutty wtf?
Riot don't buff tryn crit 0.4 to 0.5 while item 20->25% ???
I think they look like huge nerfs to tryndamere, his win rate is going to plummet so bad. Literally all they have to do to fix the entire aspect of critical strikes in LoL is to make yasuo and yone not get double crit. That’s the only issue, but they like champs making highlight reel plays so can’t do that 😢
R.I.P Navori tryndamere
Never trust Kuzak stealing that penta
bruh this is going to be so hard to adapt
Rest in peace lethal tempo
8:17 575 crit ??? No fucking way
18:10 nerf to all caps chat?
Tryndamere has short sword again rip Lethal Tempo
Kraken navori IE is back babyyyyyy
these changes look horrible, I have to be honest. lack of Tenacity sounds really bad and good items being nerfed and then bringing in more items that are bad just seems so counter to what this game needed right now.
No more Lethal tempo abuse lets go!!!
Phantom dancer darius is back
Like normal build Last or 4th item PD
trynd is completely gutted now
hmm, maybe not. i see some pretty cool new strategies with the pta rune by keeping yourself in combat.
literally can 1vs9 with this runes as vayne top 😢
08:19 wtf was that
Not Trynd but other champs may be ruined
Ranged top op. Perma pta no counter play.
Why would they remove lethal tempo...wind brothers dominate meta, so remove rune instead of nerfing champs?
you think yas and yone dominate the meta when tanks and mages exist? xd
Yasuo is extremely bellow average on live servers, even more at high elo, yone is busted yes, but his kit is busted with any rune honestly.
Lethal in my opinion is a extremely toxic rune, that gave way more stats than any other rune in the game, that's why they kept nerfing it "like they did to old conqueror" and it was still strong "conqueror after some nerfs is balanced".
@@nopulporangjuice2187 in Grandmaster, Yasuo and Yone is either pick or ban.
@@VigaveFoc not sure why you think Yasuo is below average. In my elo like I already mentioned, it's either pick or ban. Buff of IE, and combination of death stance and Jak Sho makes him and Yone very difficult to deal with
@@MasonStoijcklosing lane to a yone or yas spells skill issue. If a yone or yas if dominating your game they played well to do so its so simple. Theres arguments to make against yone ill entertain but yasuo is a pure skill issue simple.
Removing Predator? Good Jax didn't need to be in the game anyways...
420 years.
Too bad you didnt see the Zephyr
I like the item changes.
I hate the rune changes.
It's pretty tiring seeing the same agenda of everything being dumbed down..
I think lane Trynd is dead, maybe stick in the JG?
😮
hail of blades was always superior to lethal tempo anyway so not too bothered
nah, pta is broken
stop smacking noob garen
oh my god this season looks so bad
What an L Zac