@@VineyardGHS Exactly.... been tiling 30+ years. Never mind the grout degradation where there's not enough space between pieces, or the lack of water proofing. That shower base is gonna stink link an old college locker room inside of 5 years.
But when they are installed that way, you can usually easily see the edges of the sheets because of how the pebbles are attached. You only need to remove and manually replace the outermost pebbles though, and that is enough to break the unnatural finish while taking very little extra time and effort.
House cleaner here and this is my most hated shower floor type, especially the ones that used domed stones. The showers that have them almost never have detachable heads which makes clean up even worse. If you have them the best option in my experience is dish detergent (degreaser for all the conditioner and moisturizers), baking soda ( acts as a gentle scrubber) , and hot water scrubbed with a soft bristle push broom. Ps. I clean for people who are sensitive to off the shelf cleaning products hence the DIY solution
My first thought on seeing this floor is that it must be hell to clean. Guess that's why only people who can afford to pay someone else to do it will het them.
I do condo cleaning and the struggle is so real with these showers. I typically use tolet gel cleaner because of how it can get in shower and grout lines for mold/mildew.
when i was a kid my parents did the bathroom in river rock, but we were too poor to afford to buy tile so we went to the river and gathered buckets and buckets of the flattest stones we could find. ive always wanted to try and recreate it with my own house one day.
Man. These shower floors have always been so pretty to me. I've always wanted one. Then I started cleaning houses... never. Never will I ever get a floor like this anywhere in my home. It's SO HARD TO CLEAN.
All you gotta do is get down there after every shower and thoroughly scrub each crack with your toothbrush, then blow dry it so there's no sitting water. Easy. We all should have at least 4 hours dedicated to cleanign a shower a day right???!?
exact same thing happened to me, always thought they were beautiful until I had to clean a GIANT shower that took up half of the master bathroom and it was made up of tiles like that. Top to bottom. Never going to get those tiles if I can help it.
@@Goldenretriever-k8mit also makes it cleanable and longer lasting, and then there’s the drainage problem. This is a shower, running water is going to destroy that grout work if they don’t apply some kind of sealant. Not to mention the sanitation problems.
I was kind of wondering, shouldn’t that shower have some angled slant towards the drain? Won’t this person have to squeegee all the standing water to the drain?
@@LosChongodepends on the tile. If it’s pebble I don’t because they are usually different thickness. If it’s flat 2x2 or something I’ll set the floor first.
@@AllBayEveryDay i get it, theres more than one way to skin a cat. All I’m saying is I do the renovations for 2 large flooring companies. Probably seen 30+ different tile crews over the years (as in the only work they do is tile) and never seen a pan tiled before the walls.
Most home owners won't do this because after a while the floor gets really disgusting and unless you have a pressure jet, you can't really clean it. And even that, it will make a mess.
It’s no worse than regular tile because you still go over it with grout/sealant. The gaps you see won’t be there when the whole thing is finished. :) Edit: I’m speaking from personal experience. My apartment shower has this and it’s easy to keep clean/maintain.
@@ax_lz ??? That has nothing to do with what I commented above. Clearly he is going to grout in between, and it’s also not the first time I’ve seen people remove tile or stone from mesh to create a certain look, I can’t say if it paid off in this but it very well may have instead of the usual look and pattern, people do it all the time to create patterns and mosaics
@@TimmyTheSnail Let's imagine you're a dingle berry hanging from some ass hair. After a shower, you fall down to the grout level. After a while, the surrounding water MOSTLY evaporates. There will be some left over moisture BTW. So now you're a dingle berry lodged in the pours of the grout, and it's pretty damp down here. 💩+💦+🦠=☣️
I think 99% of tile guys won't do this because they know grout isn't waterproof and if you have irregular shapes on the floor there is more area of permeable grout and you end up with water in your floor/ceiling.
Ok, so as a tile installer, unless you were going for a very specific pattern, you made your life so much more difficult than it needed to be by removing the backing. Most of those stone mosaics are made to interlock, and if there is a line between sheets you can clearly see, all you have to do is remove a few pieces and replace them as desired. Also, if you spread with a trowel like you did, then smooth the ridges, when you place the sheeting you can use what I call a "soft squish", more commonly known as a dumfloat, to apply an even pressure to set the netting into the mud and level any raised edges. I don't know what your prep work was or the dimensions of your shower, but achieving the correct sloping into the drain is also crucial. From the filmed perspective its hard to see the sloping, but it appears very flat which can cause improper drainage, standing water, and mold development. Looks good though! 👍
@yeeshatraveller the space between the stones is filled with any grout of choice. You also have to be careful around the drain that the drain continues to sit lower than the grout and stones but that's not too difficult to do 🙂
This is done before the tile is put in. Usually twice. The first time, a slope is created for a rubber lining that acts as flashing for the shower. The second time is the additional mortar layer the tile rests on. Then, you put in the mortar that holds the tile in place with the slope already set.
I’ve used these before. It hurts 😂 you have to find a specific spot in the shower so you’re feet don’t hurt standing on them. But once you find that spot it’s really nice.
@@ChaosDraguss nope. I live at my house and the bathroom is cleaned pretty regularly but still I wouldn't shower barefoot. not just because of cleanliness concern but also because there's a high chance I could slip and crack my skull. end my life right then and there lol and I don't want that
I personally think this would make a nice outside shower, for a hot tub or pool rinse off, where you can use a pressure washer every now and then and its not used every day. But there are so many other options for inside.
i agree, as other ppl in the comments said, it looks like it’d be nearly impossible to get this clean regularly because the gaps between the stone are level with the drainage system. unless he filled them in with something and didn’t show us, i don’t see how any water is going to come out of those spots easily
@@thefakebluejay5394 You think they leave the gaps? wtf? ... 95% of comments on social media should never be made. People need to learn to ask more questions and make fewer uninformed comments.
@@Chris-xo2rq i mean i clearly said “unless he filled them in with something and didn’t show us” so no i wouldn’t think he’d leave the gaps but there’s a chance because the process wasn’t shown. id love to ask questions and get a response, like you mentioned, but making an informed guess is usually what i resort to since it’s highly unlikely a youtuber would even see my comment, let alone reply to it, out of the hundreds and thousands of comments they get everyday on their videos. if i’m wrong on my assumption, that’s fine because i tried my best based on what i knew and there’s plenty of more knowledgeable people to correct me, like yourself, but i’d really prefer if it was done in a polite and respectful manner, thanks
@@kalebfrei9927 your right. Someone only does this to bare concrete and not a mud floor if they dont know what they are doing. Same with laying them like this. No membrane no nothing either.
Alright… very nice…. How you gonna ensure that it drains properly, or does water stand between the stones?? Or when does the epoxy come in? Adding texture to epoxy? Or just goons be under the stone height.
It won't drain properly. My husband and I installed this pebble tile several years ago because we fell in love with the look and the pebbles were source from my home country, Bali, Indonesia. It really looked amazing next to the engineered bamboo flooring in the adjacent room. Not long after that, we realized that water always pooled in between the pebbles because the grout was always lower than the surface of the tiles. If you want it dry, you have to mop the excess water. Luckily we didn't install in the shower. Just the bathroom floor - which was previously carpeted (doink!)
These are definitely harder to clean than traditional tiles, but if you install them properly, and seal the heck outta them, they are quite manageable. It's not an easy DIY, for sure.
@@deadfisher0000 We did seal the pebbles and grout (the pebbles came already sealed from the manufacturer so they were double/triple sealed by the end of installation). Nevertheless the pooled water wins. The floor near shower where it gets splashed often becomes cloudy because we have hard water. It's hard to scrub and easily goes back to cloudy.
99%of people won't ask tile guys to do this if they have common sense . The dead skin cells and dirt accumulated between the pebbles will be very easy to clean 😂
I’d flood epoxy it flush to the surface of the stones. And I’d make the floor section in the shop and install it as a fully finished assembly. Much more control over the variables that normally lead to leaks or bad seams for shit to build up in.
@@mattpassos5689you rub grout in between all the spaces in between the pebbles then clean it off after all the gaps are filled and it’s just like normal tile job
The guy was using a quarter inch trowel and hand setting, most decent tile setters would use a smaller one due to the size of stone. Then use a float to tap them down evenly, come back and clean around the stones for grout. What's the grout gonna look like with varying heights. Your gonna have grout over the top of your low stones. Which hold water. And give u a nice foot massage.
Here’s why. Because you can clearly see the outline of the 12 x 12 after it’s installed. The human eye will pick up the pattern. It’s the same reason that the best looking LVP floors have completely random staggers at the end seams. Authentic wide plank hardwood flooring is random and that’s what LVP is mimicking. Same with pebbles on a shower floor. Personally, I don’t think it takes any longer to install them individually because you can work it out to wear there are no cuts around the parameter of the shower floor by just grabbing the right size pebbles. With a sheet, a few trips to the wet saw is going to be required.
@@ddhurry4168 granted. But people also need to look after things properly, which (in my experience) they don't do. I'm a decorator and one of my customers had TWO really nice shower rooms installed and both of them are in a shocking state less than 2 years down the line (poorly maintained). I was round there just last week painting the interior of a shepherd's hut, brilliant white 🙄🤦♂️
Is it possible to have this the bathroom flooring. Where there's potentially less water and easier cleaning than the actual shower floor? And have something else for the shower flooring. Honestly curious.
2 things. Personally I would cover the stones in several coats of polyurethane. Make sure the stones are flat unless you are covering with multiple polyurethane coats.😀
A tile guy should offer a “prep” service for this. They do everything but lay the stones, they will show you how to spread mud and then let you place the stones how you want them
I usually separate the sheets a couple inches a fill them in..last job I did this and it really didn’t take as long as I thought it would and it looked so good…your the goat brother love your videos
Where I am, the edges of the sheets appear relatively square. So my tiler removes the outer stones, lays the sheets edge to edge and then manually uses the outer stones to fill in the void so that it looks more natural. Takes him next to no extra time and gives a stunning, natural finish.
@yamaszlofmcdurkin Is it though? "Separating the sheets" says to me that he is putting them further apart, not stripping pebbles from the outer ring. Hence my reply specifically mentioning laying the sheets edge to edge...
Yea either way gives it a natural finish and eliminates the manufacturing sheet look…but it reality it’s the same exact thing…I’ve been laying all mine lately 1 pebble at a time like this video,I get paid good for my work the extra time and effort doesn’t matter at all
allow me to add a few comments on the problem of this vid... as he was putting the loose rocks down you can SEE the mesh on the bottom like he just broke them off or cut them off meaning after they get wet they come off of the adhesive.... next he did NOT put a cement or sealer on the rocks meaning ANY AND ALL water will be there till it dries.. final and MOST BIGGEST MISTAKE.. the DRAIN is HIGHER then the where the water will be sitting... meaning IT WILL NEVER DRAIN....
Either way, don’t you want your customers to brag about you when they show off their bathroom? Do you think theyll tell their friends that it looks bad because they chose the cheap option or do you think they’ll leave that out when they mention their contractor? Maybe you just say that to justify the higher price, but no body ever takes the cheap option. If you do the cheap job, you lose out twice.
@Andrew-fb4vn "nobody ever takes the cheap option" you are absolutely delusional if you think that is the case. I fix shit work all the time because homeowners decided to go with the cheaper bid.
@Andrew-fb4vn I don't see the point. I've done multi-million dollar homes that spare no expense I've also done simple remodels that are done on a budget. It's a job to job basis.
now i understand why my mom says im always think negative, dude did a great job and all you guys can say is the problems it will have. just be happy he did a good job and leave it at that.
I must say you are right but now that I saw this I’m seriously thinking about doing this..Genius hack that in all accounts, really isn’t genius..Just a professional looking job!..Salute
Es un gran trabajo, y al cliente lo que pida. No obstante, debe ser una pesadilla limpiar ese piso. Me da pereza (y también asco) solo de pensar en todo el sarro, hongos y mugre que se acumulará en el espacio entre guijarros por el agua que se quedará estancada. Xd
I lay them down a sheet at a time. When they aren't fitting closely, I'll pull off the 1-3 rocks that are causing the issue. Then, I'll end up with a small batch of stones to work with on filling in the holes. I also like having whole stones around the drain instead of cutting it & ending up with a few slivers. These floors take a lot of grout, but I love the finished look. Great job!👍
I’m not a tile guy but I think the reason tile guys won’t do this is because you’re missing the step that makes it so the water will go down the drain properly… that’s gunna be mold city in a few months and it won’t be able to clean it properly!!! I thought you were gunna do another step like filling it with resin or something but you just left it with all the gaps!!! are you crazy? That’s unsanitary! How do you plan to clean it?!?!!?
I know this takes longer, I have done it this way in the past. The whole job looks more natural when finishing against a wall and not having to cut through them. What you could do if it was a really large area is to leave them on the mat and stop short of the wall by 4/5 inches then fill in by hand 👍🏻
That's the best and only way to lay those tile and not see lines from the edges of the sheets. I like to use my grout float as a light tamp after I place all the stones. Gets them all nice and flush so there's no lippage when you're done and grouted.
The idea is good visually, that's for sure, bravo to the author. I have a couple of practical questions: did you fill the seams? It looks like it doesn't in the video. And this means that water will constantly remain there and mold will grow. Next, if it's natural stone, what do you cover it with for the finish? Because it is porous and heterogeneous, that is, it is also a potential Petri dish
I mean, I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination, but do you think a small coat of resin might work? It'd full the gaps nicely, be clear enough to see the pretty rocks. and if you're careful to put a wall up around the drain while it's curing there wouldn't be much of a concern about the drain getting any in it. Again, not a pro, just a human who enjoys crafting and crafty-related content.
@@madolinwolfe7767 he hasn't finished the install. The next step is grouting this, seals the gaps. Most people commenting on this apparently have never looked at tile work before or have watched an install and are unaware of this step.
The stone sheets are slotted to fit together. Most amateurs even know this. And for those who thinks dead skin is going to get trapped between the stones you're wrong it should get sealed and then it gets grouted flush to the top of the Stone.There is a technique to flush the grout to the stone. it looks better the way the manufactor positions the stones on the mesh. Take for granted you may need to cut a stone out of the mesh or even add one from time to time but that's it. Now it would be a pain to clean if its not grouted correctly. If it's done right it'll be a smooth surface but ever so bumpy for a foot massage. Now who wants stones in there shower floor.
THANK YOU for actually understanding this. this IS NOT difficult, at least not as difficult as the FNG here is making it. 99% of tile guys will not do this, because it is being wrong, eh? cheers!
My husband did this with linear drain in our zero entry shower. Fantastic job, no leaks, looked wonderful. Let me put the pretty stones where I wanted them! Turned out fabulous!
But water can get through the grout.. especially on such uneven surfaces where it's hard to get grout deep into the spaces.. plus there is zero waterproofing.. to me this looks like a guy who was taught how to lay tile and now he does it without knowing he needs to waterproof the floor and bottom of the wall.. hopefully an inspector checks the work.. I highly doubt he passes.. I wouldn't mind letting this tile guy work on my floors but never in a shower..
@@NsyShwlyou can go one of two ways. Grout is porous. For shower floors, add more sand so it drains better or seal the shit out of it. Sealing *can* make the floor slippery though depending on the mosaic. Filling the groutlines flush with the tile is also a good idea but hard to pull off. Usually requires a ton of cleanup afterwards because the normal wet sponge method will set it lower than the tile
This is what "I get paid by the hour" looks like XD. A lot of workers get really creative with how they soend their time doing work because of it, its so cool to watch them finagle it. Gonna respect the grind!
Homeowner: "Why are you 3 months behind schedule??" This guy: "...Look you paid for the kind of work that 99% of contractors won't do" Homeowner: "What work is that?? This is just a bathroom renovation!" This guy: ...😠
Ok, so what is the best material for staying extremely clean? Not saying "material i dont HAVE to clean" though. I have basically a phobia of bathtubs. Even after being cleaned they get all nasty in the crevises, start turning yellow and brown and it NEVER comes off. Drains all brown and disgusting. Seeing people take a bath in those nasty tubs makes my skin crawl. If cost wasnt an issue, what would be the most clean and sterile material? Stainless steel? Marble? Another type of rock? Brass? Im so disgusted by regular material tubs its a dream to save up for a custom one that doesnt feel like a fungus factory 😂
Saying 99% of tile guys won't do 99% of their job. Is f****** crazy... The comments believing that what he said versus what he did is unbelievable is honestly more scary
Because its alot of extra work for not much of a better look. Is it better yes is it worth it though? Like is it actually worth it? No, it accomplishes the same job either way but for a few hundreds probably of dollars you can make it look what 5% maybe 10% better loooking, which is subjective anyways. You spend 100s on necessities not to move a single rock tile 40° because it might look better that way.
99% of tile guys won’t do this because 99% of customers don’t have the money to pay for a tile guy like this
Exactly this is to impress his wife who donking the electrician.
1000% true
that and that mesh isn't there to make it easier it's there to help keep them in place and add stability.
About 50 times a year we get called in to cover these over because they're absolutely hated by people who showered in them a few times
@@VineyardGHS Exactly.... been tiling 30+ years. Never mind the grout degradation where there's not enough space between pieces, or the lack of water proofing. That shower base is gonna stink link an old college locker room inside of 5 years.
Someone should invent a mesh backing that makes it quicker and easier to install
They already come like that
@@leoarzola4791 woosh
@@leoarzola4791woosh
@@leoarzola4791its called Sarcasm
But when they are installed that way, you can usually easily see the edges of the sheets because of how the pebbles are attached.
You only need to remove and manually replace the outermost pebbles though, and that is enough to break the unnatural finish while taking very little extra time and effort.
House cleaner here and this is my most hated shower floor type, especially the ones that used domed stones. The showers that have them almost never have detachable heads which makes clean up even worse. If you have them the best option in my experience is dish detergent (degreaser for all the conditioner and moisturizers), baking soda ( acts as a gentle scrubber) , and hot water scrubbed with a soft bristle push broom. Ps. I clean for people who are sensitive to off the shelf cleaning products hence the DIY solution
My first thought on seeing this floor is that it must be hell to clean. Guess that's why only people who can afford to pay someone else to do it will het them.
I do condo cleaning and the struggle is so real with these showers. I typically use tolet gel cleaner because of how it can get in shower and grout lines for mold/mildew.
That was my first question when I saw this, so thank you!
Yeah, shoutout to whoever cleans this - seems like a nightmare. Give them a raise.
Я думала это зальют чем то прозрачным. Типо эпоксидной смолы. Есть же наливные полы.
when i was a kid my parents did the bathroom in river rock, but we were too poor to afford to buy tile so we went to the river and gathered buckets and buckets of the flattest stones we could find.
ive always wanted to try and recreate it with my own house one day.
Your parents were geniuses! 🤩
That is awesome, very clever !
Positive feedback! Much better than toxic negativity. Thank you sir!
Man. These shower floors have always been so pretty to me. I've always wanted one. Then I started cleaning houses... never. Never will I ever get a floor like this anywhere in my home. It's SO HARD TO CLEAN.
All you gotta do is get down there after every shower and thoroughly scrub each crack with your toothbrush, then blow dry it so there's no sitting water. Easy.
We all should have at least 4 hours dedicated to cleanign a shower a day right???!?
@@naefaren3515😂
exact same thing happened to me, always thought they were beautiful until I had to clean a GIANT shower that took up half of the master bathroom and it was made up of tiles like that. Top to bottom. Never going to get those tiles if I can help it.
@@lindsay9868 THE WALLS TOO?? Oh jeez 😩😩
I don't understand why its not grouted?
I was expecting an epoxy pour and now I'm slightly sad 😂 beautiful floor though
Epoxy takes away from the natural feel of it, makes it like linoleum. It’s probably best to just grout it to still keep that natural look.
@@Goldenretriever-k8m that might also be less slippery I imagine 😅
I know right? I was at least thinking the cracks would be filled
@@oreogurl1234exactly.
@@Goldenretriever-k8mit also makes it cleanable and longer lasting, and then there’s the drainage problem. This is a shower, running water is going to destroy that grout work if they don’t apply some kind of sealant. Not to mention the sanitation problems.
I too love having standing water in my poured concrete shower, looks great bud
underrated comment
LMAO. Also worst music ever
I was kind of wondering, shouldn’t that shower have some angled slant towards the drain?
Won’t this person have to squeegee all the standing water to the drain?
@@dtschuor459 yeah. It's called "pitch" .. all concrete /masonry needs to drain away from structure or into drains.
He's supposed to grout it after placing the pebbles to fill the gaps.
Correction, 100% of tile guys will not do this
I always do it this way
@@Apexjasonmorganllc you set your pan tiles before walls?
@@LosChongo it depends on the tile really. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don’t.
@@LosChongodepends on the tile. If it’s pebble I don’t because they are usually different thickness. If it’s flat 2x2 or something I’ll set the floor first.
@@AllBayEveryDay i get it, theres more than one way to skin a cat. All I’m saying is I do the renovations for 2 large flooring companies. Probably seen 30+ different tile crews over the years (as in the only work they do is tile) and never seen a pan tiled before the walls.
Most home owners won't do this because after a while the floor gets really disgusting and unless you have a pressure jet, you can't really clean it. And even that, it will make a mess.
You grout it…
That's what cleaning is for...
Truth!! And bleach cleaners make the stones turn colors in spots, it’s a freaking nightmare.
Yeap, we have that in our shower.
It is grouted but still a pain in the ass to clean, and the rocks will change colors with certain cleaning products
@Lisa_Plasticyou understand the gaps all get grouted right?
Mold has entered the chat
😅
And fungus
It’s no worse than regular tile because you still go over it with grout/sealant. The gaps you see won’t be there when the whole thing is finished. :)
Edit: I’m speaking from personal experience. My apartment shower has this and it’s easy to keep clean/maintain.
Haha looking for this comment
@@MaoMatsuri
Mold is a type of fungus.
99% of tile guys would go back and fill in the cracks so the water doesn’t sit between the “pebbles” and eventually ruin the floor.
Grouting will come later, he is only showing laying the pebbles.
Ever heard of grouting lol
@@mystica-subshe said 99% of tile guys wouldn't do this then he should show the full job the 1% would do.
@@JlNXEDthen what’s the point of laying down the pebbles one by one instead of just using the mesh
@@ax_lz ??? That has nothing to do with what I commented above. Clearly he is going to grout in between, and it’s also not the first time I’ve seen people remove tile or stone from mesh to create a certain look, I can’t say if it paid off in this but it very well may have instead of the usual look and pattern, people do it all the time to create patterns and mosaics
The mold is gonna be gnarly on them tiles
What makes you think that?
Snail, my friend, did you never cleaned a shower?
@@Aersznivek the tiles are grouted and sealed after installation. Cleaning is easy if you do it after you shower
@@TimmyTheSnail Let's imagine you're a dingle berry hanging from some ass hair. After a shower, you fall down to the grout level. After a while, the surrounding water MOSTLY evaporates. There will be some left over moisture BTW. So now you're a dingle berry lodged in the pours of the grout, and it's pretty damp down here.
💩+💦+🦠=☣️
@@john56801that’s why the tiles get sealed 🙃
I think 99% of tile guys won't do this because they know grout isn't waterproof and if you have irregular shapes on the floor there is more area of permeable grout and you end up with water in your floor/ceiling.
Ok, so as a tile installer, unless you were going for a very specific pattern, you made your life so much more difficult than it needed to be by removing the backing. Most of those stone mosaics are made to interlock, and if there is a line between sheets you can clearly see, all you have to do is remove a few pieces and replace them as desired. Also, if you spread with a trowel like you did, then smooth the ridges, when you place the sheeting you can use what I call a "soft squish", more commonly known as a dumfloat, to apply an even pressure to set the netting into the mud and level any raised edges. I don't know what your prep work was or the dimensions of your shower, but achieving the correct sloping into the drain is also crucial. From the filmed perspective its hard to see the sloping, but it appears very flat which can cause improper drainage, standing water, and mold development. Looks good though! 👍
Yeah the floor at my gym has this problem. Instead of going down the drain it spreads across the whole floor and flees are always there.
@@yeeshatravellerhuh? What do you mean? Grout?
You r an 8 year tile man at best.
@humble.pie. Jesus do you work out at a maximum security prison?
@yeeshatraveller the space between the stones is filled with any grout of choice. You also have to be careful around the drain that the drain continues to sit lower than the grout and stones but that's not too difficult to do 🙂
Remember to ensure the flow of water to the drain; ie the lebe of the stones must be higher than the drain -at a slant.
For real 😂 those rocks gonna be disgusting years down the line. Or they'll need to be replaced sooner & this guy gets to make another quick buck 😂😂
My first thought too.. Clearly he is in a wrong profession
@@goober112more like a few weeks jesus
It looks like theres epoxy in the cracks
This is done before the tile is put in. Usually twice. The first time, a slope is created for a rubber lining that acts as flashing for the shower. The second time is the additional mortar layer the tile rests on. Then, you put in the mortar that holds the tile in place with the slope already set.
I’ve used these before. It hurts 😂 you have to find a specific spot in the shower so you’re feet don’t hurt standing on them. But once you find that spot it’s really nice.
I was just thinking how this looks like it would be a literal pain to stand barefoot on unless you take some really quick showers.
There are people hunting barefoot in the jungle and these fuckers can't stand on flat stones lol
Y'all shower barefoot???😟😟😭
@@g100-w6j Do you live in some manner of communal housing where you share the shower? Because if not, why wouldn't you?
@@ChaosDraguss nope. I live at my house and the bathroom is cleaned pretty regularly but still I wouldn't shower barefoot. not just because of cleanliness concern but also because there's a high chance I could slip and crack my skull. end my life right then and there lol and I don't want that
I personally think this would make a nice outside shower, for a hot tub or pool rinse off, where you can use a pressure washer every now and then and its not used every day. But there are so many other options for inside.
i agree, as other ppl in the comments said, it looks like it’d be nearly impossible to get this clean regularly because the gaps between the stone are level with the drainage system. unless he filled them in with something and didn’t show us, i don’t see how any water is going to come out of those spots easily
Probably put grout down after the mud underneath set
@@thefakebluejay5394 You think they leave the gaps? wtf? ... 95% of comments on social media should never be made. People need to learn to ask more questions and make fewer uninformed comments.
@@Chris-xo2rq i mean i clearly said “unless he filled them in with something and didn’t show us” so no i wouldn’t think he’d leave the gaps but there’s a chance because the process wasn’t shown. id love to ask questions and get a response, like you mentioned, but making an informed guess is usually what i resort to since it’s highly unlikely a youtuber would even see my comment, let alone reply to it, out of the hundreds and thousands of comments they get everyday on their videos. if i’m wrong on my assumption, that’s fine because i tried my best based on what i knew and there’s plenty of more knowledgeable people to correct me, like yourself, but i’d really prefer if it was done in a polite and respectful manner, thanks
@Chris-xo2rq Yup, and your comment falls under the 95%.
You are correct most wouldn't do that because it is pointless and just makes more work for no reason.
Unless you get paid more to do it that way.
@@aaavellone only if you don't know how to run a business
@@kalebfrei9927 You don't charge for the amount of time it takes to do a thing? We all do project rates sometime but as they say, time is money.
😂
@@kalebfrei9927 your right. Someone only does this to bare concrete and not a mud floor if they dont know what they are doing. Same with laying them like this. No membrane no nothing either.
The music makes me feel like I'm in an 80's movie montage. I love it.
You'll need the coke to finish the job!
I love how the only positive comment so far is about the music😂🎉
GTA III
Scarface!
Alright… very nice…. How you gonna ensure that it drains properly, or does water stand between the stones??
Or when does the epoxy come in? Adding texture to epoxy? Or just goons be under the stone height.
It won't drain properly. My husband and I installed this pebble tile several years ago because we fell in love with the look and the pebbles were source from my home country, Bali, Indonesia. It really looked amazing next to the engineered bamboo flooring in the adjacent room. Not long after that, we realized that water always pooled in between the pebbles because the grout was always lower than the surface of the tiles. If you want it dry, you have to mop the excess water. Luckily we didn't install in the shower. Just the bathroom floor - which was previously carpeted (doink!)
These are definitely harder to clean than traditional tiles, but if you install them properly, and seal the heck outta them, they are quite manageable.
It's not an easy DIY, for sure.
@@deadfisher0000 We did seal the pebbles and grout (the pebbles came already sealed from the manufacturer so they were double/triple sealed by the end of installation). Nevertheless the pooled water wins. The floor near shower where it gets splashed often becomes cloudy because we have hard water. It's hard to scrub and easily goes back to cloudy.
You're right. 99% of tile guys wouldn't use the 3/8" side of the trowel for small pieces. They'd probably use the 3/16
"I'm better than professionals because I do unnecessary extra steps that make it take longer."
99%of people won't ask tile guys to do this if they have common sense .
The dead skin cells and dirt accumulated between the pebbles will be very easy to clean 😂
it gets sealed and grouted buddy
@@DSkimRSWell, since the video didn’t show the final result, I can understand the guy
I’d flood epoxy it flush to the surface of the stones. And I’d make the floor section in the shop and install it as a fully finished assembly. Much more control over the variables that normally lead to leaks or bad seams for shit to build up in.
Because it's going to get grouted and sealed you absolute troglodyte
😂😂😂 it’s gonna be sealed
I love the totally appropriate driving adventure music for laying pebbles on a short floor.
All the best cleaning that floor !
exactly. gross
It he’s caulked and the. It can be cleaned like any other tiles bathroom floor.
There won't be empty space between the pebbles when the work's done.
@@dud3655is he going to epoxy it?
@@mattpassos5689you rub grout in between all the spaces in between the pebbles then clean it off after all the gaps are filled and it’s just like normal tile job
99% of Tile Guys won’t do this because this isn’t the correct way to do it.
Do you do tiles?
@@vibe9318i do hes right
@@vibe9318you don't have to do tiling to understand that you're not supposed to remove the mesh
@@veradistheeggcat229why
U dense mofos dont know a thing
Love how you didnt pitch the floor or tap them down evenly so theyre all at different heights. Now i really feel like im showering on stones.
How do you know the bonding surface wasn't pitched? If it was pitched enough, the slight variation in tile heights really won't matter that much.
The shower pan should've been pitched before the tile ever goes on.
This feels more like a feature than a bug, I’d imagine you get more traction with the rocks at slightly different heights
Drainage has to be terrible
The guy was using a quarter inch trowel and hand setting, most decent tile setters would use a smaller one due to the size of stone. Then use a float to tap them down evenly, come back and clean around the stones for grout. What's the grout gonna look like with varying heights. Your gonna have grout over the top of your low stones. Which hold water. And give u a nice foot massage.
99% of tile guys won’t do that because it’s 100% a waste of time. The link together perfectly on the mesh sheets why would you take them off?
Here’s why. Because you can clearly see the outline of the 12 x 12 after it’s installed. The human eye will pick up the pattern. It’s the same reason that the best looking LVP floors have completely random staggers at the end seams. Authentic wide plank hardwood flooring is random and that’s what LVP is mimicking. Same with pebbles on a shower floor. Personally, I don’t think it takes any longer to install them individually because you can work it out to wear there are no cuts around the parameter of the shower floor by just grabbing the right size pebbles. With a sheet, a few trips to the wet saw is going to be required.
I usually just tell people to look at a 2or 3 year old pebble shower floor....99% of the time they decide they dont want it.
I was just gonna say I bet it looks absolute shite in about 2 years time.
@@wavydavy9816 epoxy grout keeps it looking much better a lot longer
@@ddhurry4168 granted. But people also need to look after things properly, which (in my experience) they don't do. I'm a decorator and one of my customers had TWO really nice shower rooms installed and both of them are in a shocking state less than 2 years down the line (poorly maintained).
I was round there just last week painting the interior of a shepherd's hut, brilliant white 🙄🤦♂️
Yeah, even brand new, it looks like something not very easy to maintain or last
Is it possible to have this the bathroom flooring. Where there's potentially less water and easier cleaning than the actual shower floor? And have something else for the shower flooring. Honestly curious.
That shower rocks
Dude you rock!! (I see what you did there)
These comments got off to a rocky start until you came along!
If this shower were a song it would be “Rock of Ages” by Def Leppard
@@heywoodjablome7834 I think "we will rock you" is better
Out, out, get out all of you. Now.
2 things. Personally I would cover the stones in several coats of polyurethane. Make sure the stones are flat unless you are covering with multiple polyurethane coats.😀
But would the poly pose a slipping hazard? I see that these stones have a nice flat surface.
This is egat i was expecting him to do
Germs: "Thank you, we frikken love this place"
A tile guy should offer a “prep” service for this. They do everything but lay the stones, they will show you how to spread mud and then let you place the stones how you want them
Ok, I would LOVE that
I usually separate the sheets a couple inches a fill them in..last job I did this and it really didn’t take as long as I thought it would and it looked so good…your the goat brother love your videos
Where I am, the edges of the sheets appear relatively square. So my tiler removes the outer stones, lays the sheets edge to edge and then manually uses the outer stones to fill in the void so that it looks more natural. Takes him next to no extra time and gives a stunning, natural finish.
@yamaszlofmcdurkin Is it though? "Separating the sheets" says to me that he is putting them further apart, not stripping pebbles from the outer ring.
Hence my reply specifically mentioning laying the sheets edge to edge...
Yea either way gives it a natural finish and eliminates the manufacturing sheet look…but it reality it’s the same exact thing…I’ve been laying all mine lately 1 pebble at a time like this video,I get paid good for my work the extra time and effort doesn’t matter at all
allow me to add a few comments on the problem of this vid... as he was putting the loose rocks down you can SEE the mesh on the bottom like he just broke them off or cut them off meaning after they get wet they come off of the adhesive.... next he did NOT put a cement or sealer on the rocks meaning ANY AND ALL water will be there till it dries.. final and MOST BIGGEST MISTAKE.. the DRAIN is HIGHER then the where the water will be sitting... meaning IT WILL NEVER DRAIN....
Are those work shoes your using… yeeezys? 😭
Yes haha
I do pebble stone all the time. I ask during bid if they would like it clean or cheap. I will do either way but not for the same price.
Either way, don’t you want your customers to brag about you when they show off their bathroom? Do you think theyll tell their friends that it looks bad because they chose the cheap option or do you think they’ll leave that out when they mention their contractor?
Maybe you just say that to justify the higher price, but no body ever takes the cheap option. If you do the cheap job, you lose out twice.
@Andrew-fb4vn "nobody ever takes the cheap option" you are absolutely delusional if you think that is the case. I fix shit work all the time because homeowners decided to go with the cheaper bid.
@@austinheath8461 what do you think the point of my comment was?
@Andrew-fb4vn I don't see the point. I've done multi-million dollar homes that spare no expense I've also done simple remodels that are done on a budget. It's a job to job basis.
This is so beautiful…but how do you clean in between them?
This.
@@carollynt thanks for the response bc I would love a natural stone tile but I was worried about the clean up
LOL
@@sis_devine It's not very easy to clean FYI.
@@brendanwood1540 yeah looks amazing but cleaning would give me a headache lol
now i understand why my mom says im always think negative, dude did a great job and all you guys can say is the problems it will have. just be happy he did a good job and leave it at that.
How do you keep its clean? The little spaces between the stones will be dirty no?
Grout
@@chopprguyThere isn't any grout there .
@@EnochPowellsLibrarian lol that’s what I’m saying Donald
The grout gets applied later.
That dude's gone. The zelle cleared, and he ain't lookin back.
As a tile repair guy, great job. I don't see no reason for mold to grow
I really hope that's satire
How will the water get out from between the rocks and into the drain?
@@KeyboardError_PressF if only that's what he actually did 🤣🤣
@@KeyboardError_PressF not saying it can't be. Easy enough to get it flush if u put the extra work in
@@liamhgd581it's not satire.... its sarcasm.
I must say you are right but now that I saw this I’m seriously thinking about doing this..Genius hack that in all accounts, really isn’t genius..Just a professional looking job!..Salute
Es un gran trabajo, y al cliente lo que pida. No obstante, debe ser una pesadilla limpiar ese piso.
Me da pereza (y también asco) solo de pensar en todo el sarro, hongos y mugre que se acumulará en el espacio entre guijarros por el agua que se quedará estancada. Xd
Great sound track. Tony would be proud
How do you think he was able to lay this entire shower in under a minute 😂
@@jackvillan5151 exactly! I’ll need that same energy when it comes time to clean li! 😅
If you’ve ever walked on one of these they are amazing. Just so weirdly stimulating.
I lay them down a sheet at a time. When they aren't fitting closely, I'll pull off the 1-3 rocks that are causing the issue. Then, I'll end up with a small batch of stones to work with on filling in the holes. I also like having whole stones around the drain instead of cutting it & ending up with a few slivers. These floors take a lot of grout, but I love the finished look. Great job!👍
To me they're like penny rounds, they can be so beautiful right after the installation but that's a lot of grout to have in a shower
I’m not a tile guy but I think the reason tile guys won’t do this is because you’re missing the step that makes it so the water will go down the drain properly… that’s gunna be mold city in a few months and it won’t be able to clean it properly!!! I thought you were gunna do another step like filling it with resin or something but you just left it with all the gaps!!! are you crazy? That’s unsanitary! How do you plan to clean it?!?!!?
I know this takes longer, I have done it this way in the past. The whole job looks more natural when finishing against a wall and not having to cut through them. What you could do if it was a really large area is to leave them on the mat and stop short of the wall by 4/5 inches then fill in by hand 👍🏻
‘80’s music gets me every time!!! Keep it up Bubba! I’m Subscribing
You like the Scarface music huh?
Paul Engeman “Push It To The Limit”
That's the best and only way to lay those tile and not see lines from the edges of the sheets. I like to use my grout float as a light tamp after I place all the stones. Gets them all nice and flush so there's no lippage when you're done and grouted.
Only remove the outermost pebbles - leave the centre ones attached.
this is how I do it too.
Most people dont want to get ripped off for unnecessary work HENCE the mat on the back of the tiles!
It looks gorgeous! Do you have to add any grout in between the pebbles afterwards or do they stay like that? Also does it hurt your feet at all?
Yes you must grout
It takes time (money) to do this but it’s so much nicer than seeing the faint outline of tile sheets in a mosaic.
Oh yeah. You can see through the grout?
@@Yyyst no... you can literally see where the mosiac sheets meet if you have a trained eye
Nice, not selling the walls and the foundation is brilliant.
Anyone else hear this song and instantly think of that special Olympics South Park episode
The idea is good visually, that's for sure, bravo to the author. I have a couple of practical questions: did you fill the seams? It looks like it doesn't in the video. And this means that water will constantly remain there and mold will grow. Next, if it's natural stone, what do you cover it with for the finish? Because it is porous and heterogeneous, that is, it is also a potential Petri dish
Dude it's called grout.
Damn. People don't think
I mean, I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination, but do you think a small coat of resin might work? It'd full the gaps nicely, be clear enough to see the pretty rocks. and if you're careful to put a wall up around the drain while it's curing there wouldn't be much of a concern about the drain getting any in it. Again, not a pro, just a human who enjoys crafting and crafty-related content.
@@madolinwolfe7767 he hasn't finished the install. The next step is grouting this, seals the gaps. Most people commenting on this apparently have never looked at tile work before or have watched an install and are unaware of this step.
Beautiful. Looks like a river bed. How did you caulk it? Did you use standard caulk? epoxy?
It’s grouted like normal tiles
The stone sheets are slotted to fit together. Most amateurs even know this. And for those who thinks dead skin is going to get trapped between the stones you're wrong it should get sealed and then it gets grouted flush to the top of the Stone.There is a technique to flush the grout to the stone. it looks better the way the manufactor positions the stones on the mesh. Take for granted you may need to cut a stone out of the mesh or even add one from time to time but that's it. Now it would be a pain to clean if its not grouted correctly. If it's done right it'll be a smooth surface but ever so bumpy for a foot massage. Now who wants stones in there shower floor.
Grouted flush with the stone - this is the step most amateurs and even some tilers fail. They'll grout like normal because it's less work.
THANK YOU for actually understanding this. this IS NOT difficult, at least not as difficult as the FNG here is making it.
99% of tile guys will not do this, because it is being wrong, eh?
cheers!
Shower drain shouldn't be given in centre, it is 2-3mm sloped and given in corners
My husband did this with linear drain in our zero entry shower. Fantastic job, no leaks, looked wonderful. Let me put the pretty stones where I wanted them! Turned out fabulous!
I want this but with sea glass instead of stones
Good luck on cleaning it. Get a shorter drain to so the water can actually go down it after the shower
These shower floors should be illegal
Why?
just make sure the home owner is ok with your artistic liberties.
Says diy in the tags
@@kevinkramer4310 even still many people will watch, not just those DYIing their own stuff, but also those starting a new career.
Now you can add foot pain to your showering experience.
Not the Scarface music 😮
This is amazing!
People using eye of the tiger to work out got nothing on this song.
@@bland9876 so true!
What about Youre the Best from the Karate Kid 💪🏾
I am now creating an 80s workout mixtape (playlist 😂)
@@iluvdissheet share it with us all
Am I the only person who thought They put down grout then smushed the sheet of tiles down then added more grout on top
I do the same thing 👍. What kind of mortal thinset do you use?
I use immortal thinset.
Never dies.
nothing is worst then stepping on cold rocks to take a shower in the morning.
Turn the hot water on before you shower 😉 🤷🏽♀️
@@msfelix6295 having a shower nearly just like this i’d say they they’re uncomfortable to stand on first thing in the morning.
idk, stepping on cold tiles to take a shower
@@WoodGrindsthey're not(: rocks are really smooth. (My mom had a stroke and wouldn't be able to stand on something that challenging for her)
Floorheating is in the concrete...
Good thing they put a drain surely the water won’t get stuck between the rocks
I did a shower sauna like this 15 years ago or more and we brought fiber optic fibers between the stones, it was awesome
This is dope.. would have liked to see u finish it.. did you put some kind of clear sealer on top?
Looks cool well done my question is did you slope it towards the drain so water doesn’t pool?
Shouldn't the drain be the lowest point in the shower to, you know, drain
It’s so pretty. Fantastic job.
What do you do to fill the spaces?
Always start from the back to the front
Nope. Not with a pebble shower. Must start around the drain first to insure uniformity.
Good video bad music.....how about videos without music????😮
That looks beautiful
Amazing how many people in the comments don’t understand that grout comes next to make this a solid surface
But water can get through the grout.. especially on such uneven surfaces where it's hard to get grout deep into the spaces.. plus there is zero waterproofing.. to me this looks like a guy who was taught how to lay tile and now he does it without knowing he needs to waterproof the floor and bottom of the wall.. hopefully an inspector checks the work.. I highly doubt he passes.. I wouldn't mind letting this tile guy work on my floors but never in a shower..
It doesn't normally though. Standard grouting is lower than the tile faces. It's more work to make the grout flush.
@@NsyShwlyou can go one of two ways.
Grout is porous. For shower floors, add more sand so it drains better or seal the shit out of it. Sealing *can* make the floor slippery though depending on the mosaic.
Filling the groutlines flush with the tile is also a good idea but hard to pull off. Usually requires a ton of cleanup afterwards because the normal wet sponge method will set it lower than the tile
This looks incredible!
🤦♂️ it still Has to be grouted people stop saying bacteria is gonna grow in the holes. Those holes won’t be there calm down 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is. There’s videos posted right after this one where it’s grouted, sealed and siliconed with the wall tile sitting on top of the pebble.
If I had this jam playing on, repeat, I could finish
This is what "I get paid by the hour" looks like XD. A lot of workers get really creative with how they soend their time doing work because of it, its so cool to watch them finagle it. Gonna respect the grind!
99% of tile installers would be correct in not doing this.
Bruh the grey omes all being grouped together just made my eye twitch. 😂
The soundtrack choice was phenomenal. 🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely gorgeous! And I love the 80s training montage music 😂
Cleaning that is going to be a hell of a job🥴
Pebble the dog like critter: 👁️👄👁️
I dont understand why would you do this ?
Just for the next generation to tear it out
When you get paid per hour:
my feet hurt watching this
99% of tile guys finish the job...
Homeowner: "Why are you 3 months behind schedule??"
This guy: "...Look you paid for the kind of work that 99% of contractors won't do"
Homeowner: "What work is that?? This is just a bathroom renovation!"
This guy: ...😠
Fuck the tile, does anybody hear the Scarface shout out?!!! Paul Engemann singing that “Push It To The Limit!” Bro!!! All Time Classic!!!
Ok, so what is the best material for staying extremely clean? Not saying "material i dont HAVE to clean" though. I have basically a phobia of bathtubs. Even after being cleaned they get all nasty in the crevises, start turning yellow and brown and it NEVER comes off. Drains all brown and disgusting. Seeing people take a bath in those nasty tubs makes my skin crawl. If cost wasnt an issue, what would be the most clean and sterile material? Stainless steel? Marble? Another type of rock? Brass? Im so disgusted by regular material tubs its a dream to save up for a custom one that doesnt feel like a fungus factory 😂
Saying 99% of tile guys won't do 99% of their job. Is f****** crazy... The comments believing that what he said versus what he did is unbelievable is honestly more scary
Because its alot of extra work for not much of a better look. Is it better yes is it worth it though? Like is it actually worth it? No, it accomplishes the same job either way but for a few hundreds probably of dollars you can make it look what 5% maybe 10% better loooking, which is subjective anyways. You spend 100s on necessities not to move a single rock tile 40° because it might look better that way.
Looks very pretty BUT, it's really super GROSS!!!
Fill all the cracks to stop hair, soap scum and bacteria!!!