Just an FYI from a structural engineer, the horizontal restraint straps tying the walls to the floor are not to stop the floor moving but the wall against wind loads!
Thanks for another great video. Always nice to see the variety of work. I hope you and the team are all ok. Tradify must be awesome with so many on YT using it!
Pity you didn't use the correct spec PU foam adhesive in the T&G's and down onto joists. Eventually these will squeak which is why specialized PU adhesive is spec'd on new builds in UK.
I am surprised that you didnt glue the joist beneath the boards to stop that dreadful squeak that always happens eventually in fact is a must in my area.
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd Knee pads are an essential bit of kit. Sorry to see Jack has called it a day. Do you think that you will leave his job open for a couple of months in case he find out that the grass is not any greener on the other side.?
I wouldn't nail chipboard, it's not dense enough to hold the nail in and over time they will work loose and the floor will creak like a bastard. Especially if you go into solid wood, the difference in materials regards expansion and contraction will be felt at the nailed points and further cause those areas to become loose. Might take longer, but screwing is the way to a quiet floor.
I've never been a fan of chipboard for flooring , we always use 18mm ply ripped down the middle and screwed not ring nailed , it's far stronger and more fire resistant, also I've never seen a spec that says the floor can only be glued and nailed... 😳 just saying.......
The product we call chip board here in the states is absolute rubbish. No better than sawdust glued together. Oriented strand board (OSB) is much stronger and durable, made of wood fibers glued together in opposing layers. In fact, it can be stronger than plywood in some cases. How would you describe the composition of the product you lads are using for flooring in the UK?
Unfair. Why don't you just leave the chipboard without glue and just screw. This will aid in the ease if lifting if another trade needs to gain access. I'm sure you as a spark must have cursed everytime you know that you have to cut into chipboard flooring. Give me the old boards anyday.
New build spec UK is PU foam adhesive and screws AND glued to joists also. These chipboard floors are notorious for squeaking in due course. Proper carpenter and joiners have many options for access in later years. The idea is to put it down permanently, not temporarily as you are suggesting. I've been in the trade a very, very long time and actually agree with this particular upgrade 100% Even ring shanks give eventually and any old school joiner will confirm this. These lads did it wrong, it's as simple as that. Unfair? SMHID
Just an FYI from a structural engineer, the horizontal restraint straps tying the walls to the floor are not to stop the floor moving but the wall against wind loads!
Absolutely love my plunge / track saw, one of the best investments I ever made to make work life easier with large sheets.
Great content! Always love hearing that you're enjoying Tradify.
Hi chaps lovely job 😂
Thanks for another great video. Always nice to see the variety of work. I hope you and the team are all ok. Tradify must be awesome with so many on YT using it!
It genuinely is buddy
Pity you didn't use the correct spec PU foam adhesive in the T&G's and down onto joists. Eventually these will squeak which is why specialized PU adhesive is spec'd on new builds in UK.
So love my makita plunge as well!!❤😁👍🏻
Hi, do you sound acoustic these floor /ceiling joist.
Cheers
I am surprised that you didnt glue the joist beneath the boards to stop that dreadful squeak that always happens eventually in fact is a must in my area.
They are mate all the joists are glued and joints I have still got the black knees to prove it😁
@@GreenHawkConstructionltd Knee pads are an essential bit of kit. Sorry to see Jack has called it a day. Do you think that you will leave his job open for a couple of months in case he find out that the grass is not any greener on the other side.?
If your skilled at your job you dont need all these fancy plunge saws etc been using skill saw for years with perfect results
I’ve seen people end flooring in between joists? Is this acceptable? Doesn’t seem right to me.
I wouldn't nail chipboard, it's not dense enough to hold the nail in and over time they will work loose and the floor will creak like a bastard. Especially if you go into solid wood, the difference in materials regards expansion and contraction will be felt at the nailed points and further cause those areas to become loose. Might take longer, but screwing is the way to a quiet floor.
I've never been a fan of chipboard for flooring , we always use 18mm ply ripped down the middle and screwed not ring nailed , it's far stronger and more fire resistant, also I've never seen a spec that says the floor can only be glued and nailed... 😳
just saying.......
The product we call chip board here in the states is absolute rubbish. No better than sawdust glued together. Oriented strand board (OSB) is much stronger and durable, made of wood fibers glued together in opposing layers. In fact, it can be stronger than plywood in some cases. How would you describe the composition of the product you lads are using for flooring in the UK?
Egger make crap boards
Unfair. Why don't you just leave the chipboard without glue and just screw. This will aid in the ease if lifting if another trade needs to gain access.
I'm sure you as a spark must have cursed everytime you know that you have to cut into chipboard flooring. Give me the old boards anyday.
yep i would love to just screw them but unfortunately they have to be ring shanked nails and glued as per spec but I completely understand 👊
Cost, floor boards as in 1920's would be prohibitive. The manufacturers state glue and screw..
New build spec UK is PU foam adhesive and screws AND glued to joists also. These chipboard floors are notorious for squeaking in due course. Proper carpenter and joiners have many options for access in later years. The idea is to put it down permanently, not temporarily as you are suggesting. I've been in the trade a very, very long time and actually agree with this particular upgrade 100% Even ring shanks give eventually and any old school joiner will confirm this. These lads did it wrong, it's as simple as that. Unfair? SMHID
@@kevinchamberlain7928 he says in the video he's glued to both joists and in the joins