The implication here, I think, is that James doesn’t have the courage to commit suicide but is willing to “wait” until he can reunite with Mary once he dies
I understand this ending as a loop, she tells him, she will always wait for him, he doesn't have a courage to accept the reality yet, so in my understanding, he just get out of the car, walks into the bathroom distressed, then he supresses everything again, walks out with thought: "I got a letter, the name on the enveloped said Mary..."
In video they cuts off the ending. Because after he stared to a letter, he starts the car, than he get out from the car(maybe) and sinks it to the lake.
He is NOT a voice actor, is an actor, look this thing up, most people still think video games are only animated and thats not true, they use the same system as movies like avatar, actors put on mocap suits and act everything in a big room with the elements they interact with in the scene, you can search it by silent hill 2 remake (or any game not that old like from the 2000 up front, though even the first silent hill which came out in 1999 if in not wrong used this system) mocap or making of and you will be able to look the real time acting, this is the reason why the actors look so much like the characters, because they usually make them alike so physically doesnt give troubles with the disigned character, even the walk, running and everything in game is acted, not animated. There are several known actors who worked on videogames like Norman reedus, Willem Dafoe, Giancarlo Esposito, Elliot Page, Rami Malek, Jesse Williams, etc
Honestly how they'd translate the dialogue was one of my biggest concerns going into the Remake. SH2's dialogue was stilted but it added to the dreamlike, surreal nature of the whole experience. The new voices in the HD edition solidified that just having an actor read lines, even extremely talented ones like Troy Baker, can't quite capture the emotional state you got from the original (though I will die on my hill that Laura Bailey's Angela was excellent). You obviously can't keep the fractured style of the original games' script in a more modern game with more dialogue, so how do you convey the same depth of character without messing it up? Well, Luke nailed it. James's voice and acting comes off unquestionably as somebody who is severely depressed. Not sad; depressed: numb to emotions. His limited reactions to the monsters and horrific things makes sense (maybe even moreso than the original) because he's just not emotionally capable of fully processing it. Even when he says lines meant to be hopeful there's an underlying feeling of disbelief, like he doesn't want to risk being hopeful in the fear he'll be burned again. As somebody with severe depression it's uncanny how much I can understand James' emotional state from just Luke's performance. Not only that, he's kind of a socially awkward dork, one that's harmless but doesn't quite gel with others. His interactions with Maria are excellent in this regard, where you also get to see him slowly open up to her in real time, hinting at how he was probably a completely different man when with Mary before. All of this stuff was mostly subtext in the original game, something I feared Bloober would miss. But Luke completely understood the project and knocked it out of the park. His mannerisms are perfect, performance perfect, it really does feel like how I saw the OG James in SH2.
I think this is a loop. He couldn't get over his self-loathing and guilt, but couldn't kill himself. He looks at the letter, pauses, places the letter on the passenger seat, and the story loops back to the beginning. "I got a letter".
He takes the letter, drives his car towards the lake, and jumps out right before reaching the peer, giving Mary a proper burial beneath the lake. He goes looking for Laura and the Leave ending proceeds as normal.
He doesnt fight the two final bosses so I doubt he would get an ending similar to if he had. Id compare this ending to Bliss just because theyre cut short for a reason, being ignorant to the truth.
I think this ending opposite in a meaning in "In water" ending he can't live without her, he knows she wanted him to live a life but he decide to die. In this ending still he can't live without her but she told him to die aka she waiting for him still thats why he crashes in water it's same thing like a letter, he needed to hear it from her. They are same but also Different
The acting is so much beyond greatness, the expression on James’s face when she touches him it’s just the expression of agony. I’ve had that feeling and I know what it’s like.
I guess this ending means Silent Hill itself nudged James to drive into the lake instead of James deciding to do it himself like in the classic ending.
I didn’t expect myself to be crying at a simple ending like this, but shit happened to me before this game released, and honestly I relate. I can’t let myself to let go, but nor do I have the courage to do suicide, so I just keep up with my delusional thinking
@@tylertheguy3160 sort of, but Ito also kinda lost his shit a little bit over the past decade. It’s finally been canonized in the remake. I liked it personally, seeing his eyes drift up to the rearview mirror in In Water for the first time gave me chills
esas son simples alucinaciones de silent hill, generadas por la culpa que james siente sobre lo que hizo, es la propia mente de james que lo culpa por lo que hizo, al punto de hacerlo pensar que ni tras la muerte merece reunirse con su mujer, pero no tiene por que ser la realidad.
@@justastranger101James is a complex character. Just because someone does something bad, that doesn't automatically make them pure evil or irredeemable.
When i heard about silent hill i thought it was like resident evil but man when i learned the story, i love all the re games because of the gameplay but because of the story alone i love silent hill, Unlike other games it doesn't seem fictional, Silent hill has so much depth to the storyline that it feels realistic and legit, Specifically The Break Down Scenes of the characters, James VA really Put all the efforts to make it feel realistic
The game prefer the stillness here, the sound of driving car into water is for "Into water" but it's "Stillness" ending, so an audio sound after this just like premonition but it's not happen. Just like he can change or choose his destiny, James decided to commit suicide in the first place but he changed his mind because of Mary. He looked at her letter and then realised that he must move on.
Since these scenes are actually rendered in-game, and not videos, it will be very interesting to see how this scene was made, and what is around car etc. Since there are channels like Slippy slides who discover out of bounds secrets by free camera mod, so you could see if they made entire Mary model when she touched James face, or just hand, and also reflection in mirror.
It's almost as if they decided to add an ending that was the most realistic. Most guys in james situation would just choose to live with the pain. It's definitely not the saddest ending...
Oh you're really missing a big clue here: James sees Mary's letter on the passenger seat at the end. But there is no letter. There never was. In later parts of the game, particularly after the hotel video reveal, if you check your inventory you'll see the letter progressively disappear, first as a blank piece of paper then as not being in your inventory at all. James isn't living with his guilt, his pain, he's rejecting it. Again. And then he goes looking for Mary once again...
@@fluidthought42 la carta que james llevaba en el inventario no era real, pero la que estaba en el auto si lo era, por eso en el final leave o en el final water, james lee la carta real, y el inicio es exactamente el mismo de la supuesta carta falsa, es porque james leyó el papel en blanco imaginando que la carta completa era solamente la parte inicial, o es probable que el propio silent hill le haya borrado el contenido a la carta para que el regresara al pueblo pensando que su esposa le decía que estaba allí. tiene tambien sentido con el hecho de que laura no tenía la carta porque su sobre estaba vacío, eso es porque james siempre tuvo la carta real desde el principio, pero prefirió imaginar que un papel en blanco contenía unicamente las primeras lineas de la carta real, tambien hay un paralelismo, ya que al igual que la carta, el cadaver de su esposa tambien estuvo desde el inicio en su auto.
I know people mostly view this as a different interpretation of the “In Water”, but I personally want to think this is an extension to the “Leave” ending. One final doubt, one final confusion and concern. And then he finds Laura and honours Mary’s last wish.
Okay so, as a Silent Hill fanatic this is by far my favorite ending as well as what I think is the "true" ending and here's why. (also apologies for sounding rushed) Dog and Alien ending are excluded because those are just fun. The Maria ending is essentially James not learning anything from his time in Silent Hill and doomed to repeat the same cycle. Leave ending to me doesn't make sense because James is a murderer, I don't think Laura at 8 years old would decide to leave and possibly be adopted by the unstable man that murdered her friend/mother figure. James' dad Frank Sunderland mentions in Silent Hill 4 that his son and daughter in law disappeared, Douglas Cartland in Silent Hill 3 mentions to Heather that he went to Silent Hill once on a missing persons case and never found "him". I always had thought he meant James but that is just my own personal theory. In water always made the most sense to me, and to some of the key players in Team Silent and James' OG voice actor. Unable to live with what he has done and wanting to be reunited with Mary by offing himself off. Silent Hill 2 at its core is a love story. A hauntingly dark one in Stillness, James sees Mary who comforts him the moment he is about to off himself. He asks "will you wait for me?" to which Mary says "I've always been waiting for you". flashback to James and Maria's convo in Heaven's Night. This a "hopeful" version of the In Water ending. I believe James decides to go on living knowing when his time comes Mary will be there as she promised, decides to drive the car into the lake, jumping out and giving Mary a sort of proper burial (since her body is in the backseat). Stillness is to hope undying theme Maria mentioned
I’ve been apprehensive to buying the game but this ending has convinced me otherwise. I was worried the remake will try to answer questions that have no answer but given the vague nature and the stunning performance by Luke Robert I am fully convinced to buying the game. Me personally I see this as a mixture of the Leave and In Water ending. James is unable to commit suicide and opts for giving Mary a water burial as James moves on with his life with the guilt looming over him like a cloud. He is convinced that Mary wanted him to live on and when he finally meets his end he will be reunited with her. He does not adopt Laura because of the guilt and her affiliation with Mary serves as a constant reminder of what he did. It is a bittersweet ending. Yes James lives on but unable to forgive himself.
This is my favorite ending and it makes the most sense for me too. Mary forgives him, but james cant forgive himself and wants to die but loves mary too much to know she wouldn't want him to give up living, but i ALSO cant see laura forgiving james and willingly leave with him like in the leave ending. That always bugged me like laura knows james killed mary why is she leaving with him lmao.
The reason james kills himself here is because like he says he cant go on without mary. So in this order he asks her "would you wait for me" and she says "i've always waiting for you" as if she always knew that he couldnt live without her and eventually he will commit suicide as is the only way to be with her in dead.
The audio after implies he got out of the car and let the car and Mary's corpse go into the lake, fulfilling Marys wish to be buried in their " special place" IE.the lake.
Right after he looked at the letter, the music changed from a sad heart felt to a distress type of music and looking at the some of the comments, he just creates this loop in his head then?
كنت بعلاقة عاطفية مع انثى كاملة والكمال لله ، جاتها حالة نفسية تسمى اضطراب الشخصية الحدية ، مع ذلك انا كنت مهملها ذيك الفتره وكنت سيء معها وكان كل رغباتي معها جنسية مثل جيمس بضبط … اللعبة هذي كانت تذكرني بنفسي وايش حصل بيني وبين اعز انسان خسرته بسبب شهواتي وتخلفي اشوفني استاهل لاني ظلمتها وظلمت نفسي معها … كان المفروض اوقف معها زي ماوقفت معها بالبداية الله يوفقها وين ماراحت ووين ماسارات دانه ماعرف كيف افرغ مشاعري او ايش اقول اشعر بضياع شديد بعد هذي العلاقة ولي فتره وكنت ولازلت شخص سيء اتمنى اني اتغير للاسف ودانه حاليا لقت اللي افضل مني الحمدلله اتمنى اني اكون شخص افضل مستقبلا.
I've watched this a few times. Here is my take. James killed Mary out fatigue and depression. He can't bear to see his wife withering and dying slowly and he was definitely heavily burdened by the responsibility of taking care of his dying wife for 3 long years. It was like snap in the moment. Mary on the other hand was already in a state of acceptance. She knew she will die, there was no cure. Though she threw tantrum and did broke down asking James not to leave her alone, deep down she wished for the pain to end. James definitely loved Mary to the core but shit happened. He cannot forgive himself for the killing and thus he created the whole delusional scenario where he got the letter and went straight to Silent Hill. In the final scene, Mary the ghost had already accepted her death and forgive James, it was only James who felt the ultimate guilt and regret about his action. James, up until the final scene was not able to forgive himself, contrary to what Mary wanted him to be. So, this ending is a good closure in the most realistic way. It continues the mental state of James unable to forgive himself whilst Mary soothed him and reassured him that she understood and that she will always wait for him in the afterlife. That is proven during the lines where james said "im so, so sorry" and Mary answered with "it's okay", continued with James asking "will you wait for me?" and Mary answered "i've always been waiting for you". About the car plunging into the lake, i believe that James did jumped out of the car at the final moment. This is hinted by 1. him not reading the final letter which he just looked at the passenger seat. It is a directive of James wishing to put an end to this whole Mary tragedy without any regrets and second thoughts that may come after reading the letter. 2. The dialogue earlier "will you wait for me?" "I've always been waiting for you". I think if he chose to die on the spot, he will say something like "i'm coming for you" or words to that effect. Just my two cents.
In the beginning of the game, it looks like it just freshly rained. In this ending, it’s raining. Is this a hint of a time loop that James enters right after he drives away?
Feel like this ending could've been better if he didn't drive into the lake. It's like the in water ending but James actually accepts the reality that Mary is gone and that he has to move on.
He doesn't. The audio at the end differs from " in water". There's a sound of a door opening implying James got out and let the car and Mary's body go into the lake.
i really think that James died in that lake, Mary said she will wait for him, in the other life, so James makes the decision to die and join to her, with the relief of Mary´s forgiveness at the otherside
"Will you wait for me?" means he can't bring himself to sudoku yet. If he's doing it now, she won't be "waiting". He's either looping to the beginning of the game or going on to live the rest of his life as a husk, however long that lasts. I agree it's the saddest ending. A fate worse than death.
@@tylertheguy3160The Leave ending is far from depressing its the complete oppossite in fact is the only good ending in SH2 its very similar to the best ending of SH1 with Harry Mason and Heather escaping from Silent Hill
@@zenicehero9154 It's definitely the happiest ending of the game but it's still more bittersweet than anything. James still ultimately has to live the rest of his life with the trauma of his experiences in Silent Hill and the guilt of what he did. Leave may be more on the happy side but it's still not all sunshine and rainbows.
for me in this ending he puts the car in but without it, giving mary a break but deciding that he will live his life as she wanted now that he knows she will be waiting for him.
I wish this ended with him leaving Silent Hill. When I was watching the ending, I thought it was going to end with James leaving, similar to the Leave ending but changing by symbolizing him choosing to accept Mary's death and treating his arrival to Silent Hill as a mistake more than the way to a new path (which is symbolized by him walking out the gate with Laura in Leave)
I wish they will add an ending when he awakens from a dream and still in Mary's deathbed prior the murder. But his soul did really went to silent hill and from that moment he's been given a chance to not do it/.
There is a lot of speculation about wether James killed Mary out of mercy or selfish reasons, my personal opinion is that it was both, in one of the endings he confesses to Mary that he hated her and wanted to live his life, also how he always says "she died 3 years ago" when we actually know she was killed not too long ago to the events of the game, meaning when she fell sick she "died" to him. Now I'm sure we can all agree that he feels guilty hence he being in Silent Hill, and deeply regrets his decision, the ending of his fate however is for the player to decide. Another reason to back up his reasoning behind killing her out of selfish reasons are seen in the monsters, this game is very intentional with what they show to the player and every detail is key to the story, most if not all monsters are portrayed as sexual and grotesque, multiple videos I found reviewing the monsters (except Abstract daddy which we know is connected to Angela and not James) state that they are manifestations of James guilt and sexual frustration for not being able to be intimate with Mary due to her sickness, and also why Maria is this sexualized version of Mary that James probably wanted her to be. If anything this only adds to his frustrations and desires for wanting to move on hence killing her. This is what I personally believe!
So, to clear things up. "In water", James decides to give up his life. "Stillness", James is stuck in a neverending loop of psychological self-mutilation.
(spoilers) he looked back in the seat it’s because that’s where her dead laying body was at the start, in the start of the game he had killed mary 1-2 days earlier before coming to silent hill, there for she’s seen in the back of his seat covered in a blanket.
Im just going to say if Luke Roberts isnt at the very least nominated for best performance at the game awards this year i will be really dissappointed.
I feel like this is James breaking the loop. The framing of this scene looks like it doesn’t take place at the end of the game, but the beginning. It’s him truly processing his grief, giving Mary a water burial, and moving on with his life before he enters the town.
Yes! i feel this too Because we've seen a lot of James dead body in SH which explains that he's in a loop. But after a while, James realize that Mary is Really dead. So he's actually breaking the loop at the beginning of the game, by drove his car to the lake with mary's body in it, with James finally realized that Mary is dead. And btw, OP cut the part where James is like start the engine and get out from the car tho.
You're forgetting that he saw Mary's letter to him. You know, the non-existent letter. The one that represents his repressed guilt and rejection of reality? That letter. James is STILL loopin in this ending.
@@fluidthought42 I disagree. Showing the letter on the seat like that was purely one of the hints to show that this scene ending takes place before the events of the game and not after. Him sending his delusion and Mary’s body into the lake without going through the events of the game is closure.
When you desperately long for the gentle touch of the woman you love that you try so, so hard to make your daysreams of her as sharp and as tangible as a knife in your flesh I know that feeling so well 😢
In the context of Silent Hill, you create your own reality (or are drawn into the elements of someone elses) and it's entirely real, not a figment. So it's actually both. It's in his head. But in Silent Hill it's also actually happening. It might even be the real Mary, if James memory is true enough to make her indistinguishable from how she was in life. It would be the part of her that was real to him. Linear thinking isn't too useful in a place like this.
The implication here, I think, is that James doesn’t have the courage to commit suicide but is willing to “wait” until he can reunite with Mary once he dies
Issue is that right after that, we still hear the car fall into the lake, the uploader just cut that part out
@@segafan1316 could be he gave Mary a Sea Burial along with the car.
This is the way I saw it. It'd be kinda weird to go "will you wait for me" and then die a minute later lol
This would also explain what happens with Mary's body in the leave ending.
It probably adds more context for James's reason to "do the deed". It ultimately develops his resolve to pursue the In Water Ending.
I understand this ending as a loop, she tells him, she will always wait for him, he doesn't have a courage to accept the reality yet, so in my understanding, he just get out of the car, walks into the bathroom distressed, then he supresses everything again, walks out with thought: "I got a letter, the name on the enveloped said Mary..."
Your analysis makes perfect sense 😢...this is a logical conclusion.😢
In video they cuts off the ending. Because after he stared to a letter, he starts the car, than he get out from the car(maybe) and sinks it to the lake.
But he started the car after looking at the letter right?
@@rustyth3575 There's different ending with suicide by drowning in sinking car. This must have different meaning
He buried her at the lake, its what she wanted. She was in the back and left Silent Hill after putting the car in the water. It's James' redemption.
James VA needs to win an award this year..
loved the original game, but the new VA did a much better job
He is an actor for reason
Agreed, seeing him do most of the stunts himself behind the scenes made me appreciate him a lot
He is NOT a voice actor, is an actor, look this thing up, most people still think video games are only animated and thats not true, they use the same system as movies like avatar, actors put on mocap suits and act everything in a big room with the elements they interact with in the scene, you can search it by silent hill 2 remake (or any game not that old like from the 2000 up front, though even the first silent hill which came out in 1999 if in not wrong used this system) mocap or making of and you will be able to look the real time acting, this is the reason why the actors look so much like the characters, because they usually make them alike so physically doesnt give troubles with the disigned character, even the walk, running and everything in game is acted, not animated. There are several known actors who worked on videogames like Norman reedus, Willem Dafoe, Giancarlo Esposito, Elliot Page, Rami Malek, Jesse Williams, etc
Honestly how they'd translate the dialogue was one of my biggest concerns going into the Remake. SH2's dialogue was stilted but it added to the dreamlike, surreal nature of the whole experience. The new voices in the HD edition solidified that just having an actor read lines, even extremely talented ones like Troy Baker, can't quite capture the emotional state you got from the original (though I will die on my hill that Laura Bailey's Angela was excellent).
You obviously can't keep the fractured style of the original games' script in a more modern game with more dialogue, so how do you convey the same depth of character without messing it up? Well, Luke nailed it.
James's voice and acting comes off unquestionably as somebody who is severely depressed. Not sad; depressed: numb to emotions. His limited reactions to the monsters and horrific things makes sense (maybe even moreso than the original) because he's just not emotionally capable of fully processing it. Even when he says lines meant to be hopeful there's an underlying feeling of disbelief, like he doesn't want to risk being hopeful in the fear he'll be burned again. As somebody with severe depression it's uncanny how much I can understand James' emotional state from just Luke's performance.
Not only that, he's kind of a socially awkward dork, one that's harmless but doesn't quite gel with others. His interactions with Maria are excellent in this regard, where you also get to see him slowly open up to her in real time, hinting at how he was probably a completely different man when with Mary before.
All of this stuff was mostly subtext in the original game, something I feared Bloober would miss. But Luke completely understood the project and knocked it out of the park. His mannerisms are perfect, performance perfect, it really does feel like how I saw the OG James in SH2.
I think this is a loop.
He couldn't get over his self-loathing and guilt, but couldn't kill himself.
He looks at the letter, pauses, places the letter on the passenger seat, and the story loops back to the beginning.
"I got a letter".
Who wrote the letter?
@@Whooohooou the letter doesnt exist. When you reach a certain point, the writing dissapears on the letter.
I thought Mary wrote it for him years prior and he just never opened it?@@nerostark4320
He does plunge into the water here. OP just cut that part out.
@@XC-Z-cv8qw Misinformation?
Jesus Christ the acting, man, it brought me to tears. It’s unreal.
☝️🤓
If you’ve ever been in a loving marriage and endured tragedy, you felt this. Impossible not to cry.
Yes. I cried. It's hard.
I wished this kind of performance should've been in the Leave ending. It adds emotional depth seeing James breaks down.
modern games can't talk much about suicide. It's too SENSITIVE!
@@lastbeer the actual game has the in water ending with the car driving off like the original
@@lastbeer dude, Angela commits suicide by letting herself be burned by the fire manifested by her version of the town
@@lastbeersaying this about the game that defaults to the suicide ending is wild
@@jonathanb7803Don't even waste your time with him lol, he's on other comment sections of the same game saying the same nonsense
He takes the letter, drives his car towards the lake, and jumps out right before reaching the peer, giving Mary a proper burial beneath the lake. He goes looking for Laura and the Leave ending proceeds as normal.
Laura's legs are going to be very sore when they get home
@@myaava6608I hope James brought some money for a bus
@@myaava6608 Nah he gonna give her a piggy back ride.
He doesnt fight the two final bosses so I doubt he would get an ending similar to if he had. Id compare this ending to Bliss just because theyre cut short for a reason, being ignorant to the truth.
that body is not going to stay beneath the lake. The gases of Mary's decomposed corpse will make her float to the surface
The actor for James is…….his acting was breathtaking
lol did you write an ellipse for dramatic effect
The amount of emotions put into this is insane.
Are you retarded?
@@AnotherGamingDude you're the only retard here.
0:45 her tone would’ve made me have a breakdown dear god this broke my heart
This is probably my new favorite ending, replacing even the in water ending. It fits so well in the game and holy shit I love James in this scene.
Well this is a "in water" 2.0 just, of course, more 😢😢😢
he murdered his wife
@@rezaali3740 and ? He loved her. She wanted to die. People are complicated.
@@frommountainstooceans6182 she also didnt want to die, but leave shows she wanted him to move on. its a very complicated situation
@@rezaali3740 So? Who hasn't murdered James's wife?
I was scared they will totally change James personnality and expressions with that remake but I think they finally made a good job.
I like this James better.
I think this ending opposite in a meaning in "In water" ending he can't live without her, he knows she wanted him to live a life but he decide to die. In this ending still he can't live without her but she told him to die aka she waiting for him still thats why he crashes in water it's same thing like a letter, he needed to hear it from her. They are same but also Different
The acting is so much beyond greatness, the expression on James’s face when she touches him it’s just the expression of agony. I’ve had that feeling and I know what it’s like.
I guess this ending means Silent Hill itself nudged James to drive into the lake instead of James deciding to do it himself like in the classic ending.
I think that was the implication in the original one as well, although they did not show Mary then. Was confirmed by the original devs
Yes, and during the last time you see Angela and James is talking with her, he says he would never kill himself.
Oh my gosh, this is heart wrenching
Yeah. This is better than I expected.
I didn’t expect myself to be crying at a simple ending like this, but shit happened to me before this game released, and honestly I relate. I can’t let myself to let go, but nor do I have the courage to do suicide, so I just keep up with my delusional thinking
Well, I, for one, am glad you're still around.
@@hooray4paradiddles thank you, genuinely thank you
I understand you… we’ll meet them no matter what, but they would like you to live your life fully
Its not a SIMPLE ending, still , i hope you best, keep yourself up
我也想自杀但是我是一个天主教徒，所以我想去乌克兰帮助他们抵御俄罗斯入侵这样死掉我应该可以上天堂。
BRAVO, BLOOBER TEAM 👏👏
Consoomer
@@ITZCHELSEA2244InceI energy
@@ITZCHELSEA2244the actual consoomer still asks for PT lol
So this ending is confirming the fan theory that Mary is in the car.
That was confirmed years ago.
You mean as a corpse that is packed up and stuffed in a bag? Do the first creatures actually represent this?
Isso já foi confirmado a séculos
@@tylertheguy3160 sort of, but Ito also kinda lost his shit a little bit over the past decade. It’s finally been canonized in the remake. I liked it personally, seeing his eyes drift up to the rearview mirror in In Water for the first time gave me chills
it's not a fan theory tho. it was stated in the book of lost memories, a guidebook from the devs
Wow the emotions when mary touches him, feels so real but he knows it's not really the case.
Does he? Does he really?
@@fluidthought42 Yes, I asked him personally
There was a note that said James and Mary will not go to the same place aka heaven and hell, so maybe even in death they won't reunite
esas son simples alucinaciones de silent hill, generadas por la culpa que james siente sobre lo que hizo, es la propia mente de james que lo culpa por lo que hizo, al punto de hacerlo pensar que ni tras la muerte merece reunirse con su mujer, pero no tiene por que ser la realidad.
I owe this game apology they really delivered with this game and might have surpassed the original
This ending for me personally fits the game perfectly.
I feel so bad for James. He's just a really lonely guy that has nothing and is struggling to keep going.
he literally killed his wife
@@justastranger101James is a complex character. Just because someone does something bad, that doesn't automatically make them pure evil or irredeemable.
@@tylertheguy3160 yeah but the comment said that james is just a lonely guy, that he did nothing wrong
@@justastranger101He never said that
@@justastranger101 he said "has nothing" stoobid
When i heard about silent hill i thought it was like resident evil but man when i learned the story, i love all the re games because of the gameplay but because of the story alone i love silent hill, Unlike other games it doesn't seem fictional, Silent hill has so much depth to the storyline that it feels realistic and legit, Specifically The Break Down Scenes of the characters, James VA really Put all the efforts to make it feel realistic
The game prefer the stillness here, the sound of driving car into water is for "Into water" but it's "Stillness" ending, so an audio sound after this just like premonition but it's not happen. Just like he can change or choose his destiny, James decided to commit suicide in the first place but he changed his mind because of Mary. He looked at her letter and then realised that he must move on.
Since these scenes are actually rendered in-game, and not videos, it will be very interesting to see how this scene was made, and what is around car etc. Since there are channels like Slippy slides who discover out of bounds secrets by free camera mod, so you could see if they made entire Mary model when she touched James face, or just hand, and also reflection in mirror.
It's almost as if they decided to add an ending that was the most realistic. Most guys in james situation would just choose to live with the pain.
It's definitely not the saddest ending...
Oh you're really missing a big clue here: James sees Mary's letter on the passenger seat at the end.
But there is no letter. There never was. In later parts of the game, particularly after the hotel video reveal, if you check your inventory you'll see the letter progressively disappear, first as a blank piece of paper then as not being in your inventory at all.
James isn't living with his guilt, his pain, he's rejecting it. Again. And then he goes looking for Mary once again...
@@fluidthought42 la carta que james llevaba en el inventario no era real, pero la que estaba en el auto si lo era, por eso en el final leave o en el final water, james lee la carta real, y el inicio es exactamente el mismo de la supuesta carta falsa, es porque james leyó el papel en blanco imaginando que la carta completa era solamente la parte inicial, o es probable que el propio silent hill le haya borrado el contenido a la carta para que el regresara al pueblo pensando que su esposa le decía que estaba allí.
tiene tambien sentido con el hecho de que laura no tenía la carta porque su sobre estaba vacío, eso es porque james siempre tuvo la carta real desde el principio, pero prefirió imaginar que un papel en blanco contenía unicamente las primeras lineas de la carta real, tambien hay un paralelismo, ya que al igual que la carta, el cadaver de su esposa tambien estuvo desde el inicio en su auto.
The what’s wrong honey reminded me of my mom
James’ actor needs an award
If i survive the horror of silent hill. I might have cured from my depression already 😂😂😂
I know people mostly view this as a different interpretation of the “In Water”, but I personally want to think this is an extension to the “Leave” ending. One final doubt, one final confusion and concern. And then he finds Laura and honours Mary’s last wish.
I feel his pain he would rather see her ghost at any cost face any monster just to apologize
People who claim the acting in the original was better are absolutely insane
Only maria was better in the original
"This video game psychologically profiles you as you play" "it gets to know who you really are" fact of silent hill.
If anything, Mary/Maria is GOATed in the original while James is GOATed in the remake.
You said it bro, this James nailed it, while Maria/Marry and Angela were better in the original
I agree not the new Mary was bad just the old one was just that good
@@dr.jellalfernandes6392not at all lol but thats just my opinion 🙃 everyone did much better in the remake.
If You didnt cry when his lip quivered and he said "I miss you so much" you dont have a heart!
Okay so, as a Silent Hill fanatic this is by far my favorite ending as well as what I think is the "true" ending and here's why. (also apologies for sounding rushed)
Dog and Alien ending are excluded because those are just fun.
The Maria ending is essentially James not learning anything from his time in Silent Hill and doomed to repeat the same cycle.
Leave ending to me doesn't make sense because James is a murderer, I don't think Laura at 8 years old would decide to leave and possibly be adopted by the unstable man that murdered her friend/mother figure. James' dad Frank Sunderland mentions in Silent Hill 4 that his son and daughter in law disappeared, Douglas Cartland in Silent Hill 3 mentions to Heather that he went to Silent Hill once on a missing persons case and never found "him". I always had thought he meant James but that is just my own personal theory.
In water always made the most sense to me, and to some of the key players in Team Silent and James' OG voice actor. Unable to live with what he has done and wanting to be reunited with Mary by offing himself off. Silent Hill 2 at its core is a love story. A hauntingly dark one
in Stillness, James sees Mary who comforts him the moment he is about to off himself. He asks "will you wait for me?" to which Mary says "I've always been waiting for you". flashback to James and Maria's convo in Heaven's Night. This a "hopeful" version of the In Water ending. I believe James decides to go on living knowing when his time comes Mary will be there as she promised, decides to drive the car into the lake, jumping out and giving Mary a sort of proper burial (since her body is in the backseat). Stillness is to hope undying theme Maria mentioned
My theory about the leave ending is they never get out of the fog world. It's the same concept use in the first silent hill film.
James when he spawns in hell realizing Mary is in heaven: 😢
I’ve been apprehensive to buying the game but this ending has convinced me otherwise. I was worried the remake will try to answer questions that have no answer but given the vague nature and the stunning performance by Luke Robert I am fully convinced to buying the game.
Me personally I see this as a mixture of the Leave and In Water ending. James is unable to commit suicide and opts for giving Mary a water burial as James moves on with his life with the guilt looming over him like a cloud. He is convinced that Mary wanted him to live on and when he finally meets his end he will be reunited with her. He does not adopt Laura because of the guilt and her affiliation with Mary serves as a constant reminder of what he did. It is a bittersweet ending. Yes James lives on but unable to forgive himself.
This is my favorite ending and it makes the most sense for me too. Mary forgives him, but james cant forgive himself and wants to die but loves mary too much to know she wouldn't want him to give up living, but i ALSO cant see laura forgiving james and willingly leave with him like in the leave ending. That always bugged me like laura knows james killed mary why is she leaving with him lmao.
The reason james kills himself here is because like he says he cant go on without mary. So in this order he asks her "would you wait for me" and she says "i've always waiting for you" as if she always knew that he couldnt live without her and eventually he will commit suicide as is the only way to be with her in dead.
The audio after implies he got out of the car and let the car and Mary's corpse go into the lake, fulfilling Marys wish to be buried in their " special place" IE.the lake.
Right after he looked at the letter, the music changed from a sad heart felt to a distress type of music and looking at the some of the comments, he just creates this loop in his head then?
- Waiting for you in our special place?
- On back seat?
كنت بعلاقة عاطفية مع انثى كاملة والكمال لله ، جاتها حالة نفسية تسمى اضطراب الشخصية الحدية ، مع ذلك انا كنت مهملها ذيك الفتره وكنت سيء معها وكان كل رغباتي معها جنسية مثل جيمس بضبط … اللعبة هذي كانت تذكرني بنفسي وايش حصل بيني وبين اعز انسان خسرته بسبب شهواتي وتخلفي اشوفني استاهل لاني ظلمتها وظلمت نفسي معها … كان المفروض اوقف معها زي ماوقفت معها بالبداية الله يوفقها وين ماراحت ووين ماسارات دانه ماعرف كيف افرغ مشاعري او ايش اقول اشعر بضياع شديد بعد هذي العلاقة ولي فتره وكنت ولازلت شخص سيء اتمنى اني اتغير للاسف ودانه حاليا لقت اللي افضل مني الحمدلله اتمنى اني اكون شخص افضل مستقبلا.
I really hope Bloober gets to remake another Silent Hill in the series.
Bruh he left his wife waiting in the car the whole time
This gave me trauma
Luke Roberts robbed
I've watched this a few times. Here is my take.
James killed Mary out fatigue and depression. He can't bear to see his wife withering and dying slowly and he was definitely heavily burdened by the responsibility of taking care of his dying wife for 3 long years. It was like snap in the moment. Mary on the other hand was already in a state of acceptance. She knew she will die, there was no cure. Though she threw tantrum and did broke down asking James not to leave her alone, deep down she wished for the pain to end.
James definitely loved Mary to the core but shit happened. He cannot forgive himself for the killing and thus he created the whole delusional scenario where he got the letter and went straight to Silent Hill.
In the final scene, Mary the ghost had already accepted her death and forgive James, it was only James who felt the ultimate guilt and regret about his action. James, up until the final scene was not able to forgive himself, contrary to what Mary wanted him to be.
So, this ending is a good closure in the most realistic way. It continues the mental state of James unable to forgive himself whilst Mary soothed him and reassured him that she understood and that she will always wait for him in the afterlife. That is proven during the lines where james said "im so, so sorry" and Mary answered with "it's okay", continued with James asking "will you wait for me?" and Mary answered "i've always been waiting for you".
About the car plunging into the lake, i believe that James did jumped out of the car at the final moment. This is hinted by
1. him not reading the final letter which he just looked at the passenger seat. It is a directive of James wishing to put an end to this whole Mary tragedy without any regrets and second thoughts that may come after reading the letter.
2. The dialogue earlier "will you wait for me?" "I've always been waiting for you". I think if he chose to die on the spot, he will say something like "i'm coming for you" or words to that effect.
Just my two cents.
that’s good
El amor te conduce a muchas cosas.........
If this ending was after the first playthru then the VA would sweep the best performance award
God I hope the track that plays during this gets released at some point
In the beginning of the game, it looks like it just freshly rained. In this ending, it’s raining. Is this a hint of a time loop that James enters right after he drives away?
Anyone know what the song being played here is called? It's so good.
The dog ending is the canon ending
Since you watch Mary's mid finger being shorter than the other fingers you can't unsee it
Peak acting.
This is forgetting the part where James drives the car into the water just a fyi
there is a different ending where james drives the car into the water too
That’s a completely different ending
@@ZacTheFirst no it's not. The stillness ending has audio of him driving the car into the water...I got it myself
It happens in this one too@@isaiasblunter2351
@@ZacTheFirstit's the same one, it happens in both
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the Piano is .. .
The first time I saw it I thought he was going to shoot himself
Feel like this ending could've been better if he didn't drive into the lake. It's like the in water ending but James actually accepts the reality that Mary is gone and that he has to move on.
He doesn't. The audio at the end differs from " in water". There's a sound of a door opening implying James got out and let the car and Mary's body go into the lake.
I feel so sad rn ]:
I feel bad for judge badly on this remake at first trailer back in 2022. Glad I'm wrong and this game become a nice one
i really think that James died in that lake, Mary said she will wait for him, in the other life, so James makes the decision to die and join to her, with the relief of Mary´s forgiveness at the otherside
"Will you wait for me?" means he can't bring himself to sudoku yet. If he's doing it now, she won't be "waiting".
He's either looping to the beginning of the game or going on to live the rest of his life as a husk, however long that lasts.
I agree it's the saddest ending. A fate worse than death.
if i remember there's an ending while james walk away in the cemetery with a little girl.
@@Player0804 That's the leave ending. Still depressing but easily the least bleak ending in the game.
It’s more bittersweet to me. Definitely the happiest ending of Silent Hill 2 in my eyes.
@@tylertheguy3160The Leave ending is far from depressing its the complete oppossite in fact is the only good ending in SH2 its very similar to the best ending of SH1 with Harry Mason and Heather escaping from Silent Hill
@@zenicehero9154 It's definitely the happiest ending of the game but it's still more bittersweet than anything. James still ultimately has to live the rest of his life with the trauma of his experiences in Silent Hill and the guilt of what he did. Leave may be more on the happy side but it's still not all sunshine and rainbows.
for me in this ending he puts the car in but without it, giving mary a break but deciding that he will live his life as she wanted now that he knows she will be waiting for him.
So the body was in the back seat all along, nice callback.
I wish this ended with him leaving Silent Hill. When I was watching the ending, I thought it was going to end with James leaving, similar to the Leave ending but changing by symbolizing him choosing to accept Mary's death and treating his arrival to Silent Hill as a mistake more than the way to a new path (which is symbolized by him walking out the gate with Laura in Leave)
I wish they will add an ending when he awakens from a dream and still in Mary's deathbed prior the murder. But his soul did really went to silent hill and from that moment he's been given a chance to not do it/.
There is a lot of speculation about wether James killed Mary out of mercy or selfish reasons, my personal opinion is that it was both, in one of the endings he confesses to Mary that he hated her and wanted to live his life, also how he always says "she died 3 years ago" when we actually know she was killed not too long ago to the events of the game, meaning when she fell sick she "died" to him. Now I'm sure we can all agree that he feels guilty hence he being in Silent Hill, and deeply regrets his decision, the ending of his fate however is for the player to decide. Another reason to back up his reasoning behind killing her out of selfish reasons are seen in the monsters, this game is very intentional with what they show to the player and every detail is key to the story, most if not all monsters are portrayed as sexual and grotesque, multiple videos I found reviewing the monsters (except Abstract daddy which we know is connected to Angela and not James) state that they are manifestations of James guilt and sexual frustration for not being able to be intimate with Mary due to her sickness, and also why Maria is this sexualized version of Mary that James probably wanted her to be. If anything this only adds to his frustrations and desires for wanting to move on hence killing her.
This is what I personally believe!
As an wife killer I understand his pain.. but we need to move forward
so amazing
It's a loop. He re-spawned after killing himself.
The never ending Limbo of Silent Hill.
So, to clear things up.
"In water", James decides to give up his life.
"Stillness", James is stuck in a neverending loop of psychological self-mutilation.
(spoilers) he looked back in the seat it’s because that’s where her dead laying body was at the start, in the start of the game he had killed mary 1-2 days earlier before coming to silent hill, there for she’s seen in the back of his seat covered in a blanket.
Im just going to say if Luke Roberts isnt at the very least nominated for best performance at the game awards this year i will be really dissappointed.
This ending feels like an similar ending to the In Water One my favorite ending of SH2 is the Leave Ending
In later patches I hope they can animate tears
I feel like this is James breaking the loop. The framing of this scene looks like it doesn’t take place at the end of the game, but the beginning. It’s him truly processing his grief, giving Mary a water burial, and moving on with his life before he enters the town.
Yes! i feel this too
Because we've seen a lot of James dead body in SH which explains that he's in a loop.
But after a while, James realize that Mary is Really dead. So he's actually breaking the loop at the beginning of the game, by drove his car to the lake with mary's body in it, with James finally realized that Mary is dead.
And btw, OP cut the part where James is like start the engine and get out from the car tho.
You're forgetting that he saw Mary's letter to him. You know, the non-existent letter. The one that represents his repressed guilt and rejection of reality? That letter.
James is STILL loopin in this ending.
@@fluidthought42 I disagree. Showing the letter on the seat like that was purely one of the hints to show that this scene ending takes place before the events of the game and not after. Him sending his delusion and Mary’s body into the lake without going through the events of the game is closure.
The perfect ending
bruh holy fuck this is like a movie
These new endings are puré depression
It would have been better if they just showed her hand (only) as they were talking.
If Luke Roberts doesn’t win Best Performance in the 2024 Game Awards, I’ll Riot.
When you desperately long for the gentle touch of the woman you love that you try so, so hard to make your daysreams of her as sharp and as tangible as a knife in your flesh
I know that feeling so well 😢
What's the soundtrack name though???
Omg,it literally «What's worse: to live like a monster or die like a human?».
so , is mary there or is it in his head? because there is a water ending that is just like this. i didn't understand this one
In the context of Silent Hill, you create your own reality (or are drawn into the elements of someone elses) and it's entirely real, not a figment. So it's actually both. It's in his head. But in Silent Hill it's also actually happening. It might even be the real Mary, if James memory is true enough to make her indistinguishable from how she was in life. It would be the part of her that was real to him.
Linear thinking isn't too useful in a place like this.
💔😭
Why is Mary’s middle finger shorter than her index and ring fingers???
Why the developers made such a problem in their modeling..look at Mary’s Middle finger , it’s shorter than normal
What's wrong with her fingers?
I mean I still think the in water ending is the saddest
James is like me
Her fingers in the thumbnail creep me out😆
Somebody know's how it calls the song in this scene?
umbra veil
How to unlock this ending?