What if he does use it and sacrifices his humanity and himself to become something more than apostle for the sole purpose of defeating Griffith? The God hand tries to control him, but his hatred is so strong that it gives rebirth to the idea of rage, something that competes for supremacy with the idea of evil every 10,000 years, and a new God is chosen for the idea of the millennium. This idea of rage choses it's own Godhand, and Guts is reborn as a member of it with Skull kinght, as calamities that battles the idea of Evil's Godhand. Or it could have an idea of righteousness/peace instead of rage as the 1st time Guts defeated Griffith was when he was calm. Each idea dictates what value will the creatures of each millennium have as their core value, for the current millennium, it's the idea of EVIL.
@@Eliburgo What if Guts rage for Griffith is so strong, that the behlit's sole purpose that is supposed to make Gut bend to the Godhand's will is crushed by his rage and the idea of rage makes him his apostle or Godhand member or what not. My point is, Authors are supposed to come up with new ideas, they can't just use what already exists unless it's in a twist or it's value is seemingly not important but ends up being important, in that regard, I believe the Author of Berserk would've come up with something new to let Guts kill Griffith, and I mean why not it's his manga and he can do whatever he wants with it.
@@EliteSameerMuira left an outline, the writers should adhere to it. No new ideas technically. I think the behelit will be a huge factor though. I don't think Guts will use it. Somehow, Griffith will take it from him and Guts will destroy it to sever causality
@@KyeXGamer Skull Knight's sword which is also infused with a behelit can harm members of God Hand. It's confirmed by the fact that Void had to use spatial magic to warp the sword away instead of just tanking it when Skull Knight tried to hit him. Furthermore, Dragon Slayer successfully cut a single strand of Griffith's hair in one of the chapters.
@@KyeXGamer: Consider this, before facing griffith they use magic to suppress brand like before. Yes I'm aware they won't be able to suppress it COMPLETELY. But we've seen Guts Power through same INTENSE pain already. If they can lower it Just enough to wear he can tolerate it, Guts Might have a chance.!
That actually would be peak writing. I would genuinely love to see Guts, with a calm mindset battling Griffith and winning instead of seeing a mad Guts just mindlessly swinging his sword against Griffith thinking it'll do something eventually. "The powerful men are the ones who control their anger and emotions" indeed.
Yo you completely changed my mind on berserk. Guys fighting Griffith with a calm and peaceful fight is beautiful. Think about it. In their first fight guts was swinging wildly and lost, because Griffith wasn’t blinded by rage. In the second one, the mental state is reversed and Griffith loses but is left alive again by Guts. Griffith would be happy dying while living his dream but if guts lets him live and takes all of that it’s worse than death to Griffith
Instead Griffith will so PISSED of Guts not using his Rage. He wants him to stay angry at him so he can taunt him but Guts with a Calm mindset and just fucking Griffith over mentally
There's a theory that you can only lay hands on Griffith if you don't harbor ill intentions or malevolence towards him. That would explain why Rickert, who could never truly hate Griffith, was able to bitch-slap him, which was the first time Griffith was actually harmed in any way since becoming a god hand member.
I get the feeling that just happened because Griffith allowed it. Either for appearances sake or because there’s still a tiny shred of humanity left in him.
@@michaelkimberling7307 I agree with the partial humanity left theory but Griffith wasn't anticipating Rickert slapping him .. there's definitely something to that moment that foreshadows the way to touch Griffith.
@@michaelkimberling7307 oh god I hope that they don't use Casca as the one to kill Griffith.. if it's Guts and Casca then I'd be alright with that ..but I kinda want a 1v1 between them.
@@darkknight4353 True, but it's completely believable that some people besides Miura knew the ending. Of course they don't know everything from A to Z, but just the really big stuff makes sense for his best friend and some team members to know.
@@MrPopo-nn7kpto my understanding, him and his childhood friend both know how they're mangas end and made a pact that if one would not be able to complete it, the other would do so for them. How true it is I'm not sure, but time will tell I guess.
@MrPopo-nn7kp except for the fact that we literally saw him training up his assistants and it was a well established fact that he chatted about it a lot with his Mangaka friend that knew Berserk when it was just doodles in a notebook
Griffith literally lives outside and harnesses the powers of fate/destiny itself to some extent...so yeah he quite literally has self given plot armor😂 Skull Knight said it himself that Guts will quite literally have to go beyond fate itself if he wants to defeat griffith
In their last encounter guts *did* land a hit on him. It just didn’t do anything. Also skullknight came at Griffith with a sword *made* of behelits and Griffith was just like “thanks dawg, gonna just yoink to combine the physical and astral world”.
Guts ran through all the stages of grief through out the story: he was in denial when he ran away from the cave and met skull knight right after the eclipse, then during the entire quest to recover cascas meomries he was in anger, right after casca recovered he entered bargaining, and right now he was left in a deep state of depression so it does really look like hes about to enter Acceptance.
There's a guy who has this theory that Sonya will betray Griffith by telling everyone the truth about the band of the hawk and as guts and Griffith fights, Guts will be nearly killed and Griffith takes his behelit. Right as he summons the Godhand, Guts will break the behelit and thus severs Causality and removing Griffiths status as a Godhand. Why would Griffith summon the Godhand? Well, once people realize he's a fraud, his fantasy is ruined and the only way the Godhand get their power is through fear and malice and lies so he needs the rest of the Godhand to intervene to enact that fear back into place.
He’s not “purely driven by rage” at least not anymore. Becoming close with his new allies has helped him diminish a lot of that anger, as well as accepting the truth of himself running away from it when he spoke with Godo the blacksmith.
Nah that's stupid. No more power unlocks, this isn't dragon ball, it needs to be a more nuanced and meaningful instead of "I just trained hard and become strong" Berserk has almost never been about that.
The moment when Guts kills Griffith will undoubtedly be one of the most anticipated and pivotal moments in manga history. If the writers present this moment with the depth and intensity it deserves, it could become a defining moment in the art of storytelling
"I have never believed in anything, in anyone, in anything, except in you" Guts referring to his sword, I hope the character grows, abandons the anger and the idea of having only the sword because he has friends he can trust and who will fight alongside him
Imo he'll learn to control the Berserker armor with a calm mind, because it was stated that the closer he'll get to griffith the more the brand will hurt. And the pain could kill him
A long time ago before berserk was popular i read a theory online that suggested that guts would die fighting femto, which in return would devastate femto and bring back some of his humanity and then it would be femto who kills the god hand... seemed pretty fitting to the story.
Before that even happens, there needs to be so much more character development for Guts. In his current state. It's impossible. He's all but seemingly given up.
It makes sense, honestly. Guts is *defined* by his relationship with Griffith as of right now, and while it's 100% understandable, that's what empowers Griffith. When Guts beat Griffith the first time, it wasn't just with a calm mind, but with a goal that was at best tangentially related to Griffith - finding his own dream. Once Guts is able to heal himself mentally and spiritually, by not seeing Griffith as the ultimate goal or what gives him reason for being, while still acknowledging what Griffith is, what he's done, and why he needs to be stopped, that's when he'll defeat Griffith. Significantly easier said than done though, it'll still be the most difficult thing Guts will ever do. 😅
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I think that the way that berserk would end is guts finally letting go of revenge in a important moment to save casca and his comrades, making him realise that they're more important than that. That would make griffith lose his cool, because he lost control of guts and casca again. Then they would have a last fight, with griffith afraid of losing his control and guts protecting what he loves.
Another insane theory could go as guts relying in the power of the mark and the infused behelith DragonSlayer giving up his humanity to became a monster so that way he could kill Griffith, ending his own life as soon as he finish Griffith in order to acomplish his vengace and not being taken as an eternal slave of hand of god
Griffith wants Guts to focus only on him. Guts can defeat Griffith by simply walking away and ignore Griffith. And Guts would have won until Griffith kidnapped Caska.
You're still thinking along the same lines of causality that have led every action of Guts since after his birth - and every action done by a character from being who they are falls under the laws of cause and effect dictating their fate, which falls under the power of the Godhand. The Godhand don't so much control space, as most people seem to think, but more accurately control the effects of a cause that falls under what should happen based upon the individual's actions who are responsible for the cause...when that individual's actions are what would be true to their character. That is how Void & Femto move Skull Knight's strikes, as SK is still following an action true to his desires, and that is why when the Slug apostle goes against his desire to live out of live for his daughter that Void's power to create the sacrificial ceremony doesn't work - not that Void chose to stop it but that they were powerless to enact it due to the "breaking of chains of causality" (I think he even says it) and fall back on their ability to take his soul due to their old pact that made him an apostle. If Guts keeps trying to kill Femto, then Femto will forever be able to manipulate Guts's actions to make that impossible due to causality. In order to defeat Femto aka The Big G, Guts will have to go against everything he desires, against his armor, hus inner demons and do the opposite truly without guile against himself. Only then will the Godhand be powerless against him. What that is - who knows...though I have a theory that you and most aren't going to like... One idea - and only a part of this may be true but lets go all out into my lunacy - is maybe that their is an Idea of Good that exists like the Idea of Evil, just waiting to be born. As IOE rules fate/causality subjective to the individual, then perhaps the IOG rules true choice that is objective of self. That said and back to Guts, Guts is going to have to forgive Griffith & not fight him - which would, as we've seen when he was alive as a human, will enrage Griffith's hubris that makes him take chaotic actions...and he will kill Guts. I told you that you wouldnt like it - but keep reading... Maybe the behelit isnt made by the IOE but something beyond, and it will activate in a different way, not screaming but enlightened, and the IOG will be born and it will do to Guts what IOE did to Griffith, and Guts will be reborn into its first angel. Griffith will have broken his own chains of causality and lise his connection to the IOE & now be vunerable - and then the two winged angels will finally have their epic duel. Batshit crazy, I know - but the main point abd most likely according to all evidence is that Guts will have to not do what he has always done and the man that eludes death will finally have to submit to it in order to somehow break causality to win this battle.
It would make sense for them to go that route. It's been a while, but isn't the moonlit child the result of guts and cascas child being corrupted from femto when he raped casca? If so, then it would be the perfect way for femto to die via his own selfish urge for revenge against guts.
@@RisingInTheFlesh He is griffith but at the same he isnt. They share body but moonlight boy its guts and casca child so he is a lot more vulnerable since Griffith isnt in control there
What if he does use it and sacrifices his humanity and himself to become something more than apostle for the sole purpose of defeating Griffith? The God hand tries to control him, but his hatred is so strong that it gives rebirth to the idea of rage, something that competes for supremacy with the idea of evil every 10,000 years, and a new God is chosen for the idea of the millennium. This idea of rage choses it's own Godhand, and Guts is reborn as a member of it with Skull kinght, as calamities that battles the idea of Evil's Godhand. Or we could have an idea of righteousness/peace instead of rage as the 1st time Guts defeated Griffith was when he was calm. Each idea dictates what value will the creatures of each millennium have as their core value, for the current millennium, it's the idea of EVIL.
Guts isn't exactly the most morally upstanding guy so the idea of rage makes more sense, regardless of what he tells himself, he's doing everything because he just hates Griffith for personal betrayal, not because he thinks he can save humanity. If Griffith hadn't sacrificed the whole band, just someone nobody likes like Karkus and just made the rest his personal honor guard or something and changed nothing else about the godhand plan, Guts and the rest would have stood by him, especially when he tells them his plan to turn Midland into Falconia.
Calm mind is the only way. Guts finally conquering his rage and achieving state of complete spiritual enlightenment where his emotions no longer control him that is the only way Berserk should end at least imo :)
It would be pretty cool if he used the behelit to become spiritually connected with the sword, kinda like nightmare from soul calibur. It would empower guts greatly and maybe give him some dark magic?
"If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." Casca will absolutely try to rescue her son "the moonlight boy" and die trying. Guts will give in to the beast within and sacrifice his allies once his behelit turn red. The only one that comes out of this alive is Schierke. Grown up and with a brand of her own.
I think one of the chance Guts can beat God Hand, is by enter their main domain. Like Guts and others can find a way to get their Astral body and found it, he like likely any chance. But with Griffith case he's kinda unique he manifest himself in Physical world, that mean he can be "Harm" in some way. For example Ricket manage to Slap him, and in couple latest chapter Guts manage to cut Griffith, even though is just a strain of Hair.
I think the key to hitting him is his attacks can't harbor any malice or ill intentions. I think since then Godhand are basically primordial evil incarnate, they resonate with those emotions and use it to navigate causality, thus knowing exactly what to do and when to do it. Without these emotions, I think it will be difficult for them to predict an attack and make them susceptible to being harmed.
As far as we know about the behelits they could be the source of the apostle power meaning every apostle must have a weak spot where the behelit is Griffith was holding it in his left hand. Guts could possibly cut off his left hand with the dragon, slayer sword infused with a behelit, that might get him
I think Guts will be able to defeat Griffit because of the moonlight boy. Griffith is the falcon of darkness and i believe the MB is the falcon of light, and now they are fused together and this means Griffith is traped with a being who wants to protect Casca and Guts. I also believe the godhand, especially Void, have some kind of a plottwist prepared for Griffith, Miura said once that Void is the key for the godhand plans, not Griffith. I believe Void has a very specific objective in mind and Griffith is a means to an end
Moonlight Boy is the key. Guts and Casca’s kid fused with Griffith and has a separate will of his own still. That’s why he’s able to manifest separately and it’s why Griffith stole Casca again- the part of him that is ghost fetus/moonlight boy wants his mother. That’s Griffith’s weak spot right now. It’s a clue that he’s not in complete control
Guts somehow not outright killing Griffith but overpowering him and remaining calm and the whole thing being so much Griffith breaks down again at being unable to control people and ends it all would be the most ironic cathartic ending for someone who feels and seems so powerful. A god being made to feel worthless and unloved in comparison to a human would be peak satisfaction
yeah i like the idea that all this time guts been told that the behelit might not even be for him, maybe the behelit is recipient is the dragon slayer, a weapon that might have a living aura of itself after slaying lots of creatures and apostles, plus the sorrow and anger of its owner
Guts will defeat Griffith the same way the protagonists from Freddy’s Dead kill Freddy. They’ll bring him from the astral plane to the physical, somehow.
When Guts first visited the swordsmith who made the dragonslayer, the smith told him it was a "weapon that could kill that which cannot be killed"... makes you wonder
Imo, I think it would be more fitting that guts doesn’t kill him. Guts has been trying incredibly hard to not fall into that rabbit hole. He knows if he kills Griffith, he wouldn’t stop. It would be very cool to see both of them duel and guts spares him, like he did so many years before. Or honestly seeing Rickert or Casca delivering the final blow would be satisfying
Chances are their final showdown will be a reminiscent showdown of when Gutsu left the BOH, and they kill each other. Well, Guts will somehow win, but die shortly afterwards.
Don’t ignore the potential of the Berserker Armor, most of the time it controls Guts due to his rage, but maybe when he can control his emotions, he would use it effectively
That's a good theory, especially the parallels and theories implied with Guts and Skull Knight I just wonder WHEN all of this will happen. I don't see Berserk being remotely close to the end as of right now considering the current situations, I can see the manga going on for a few more years. Thing is that all the God Hand members need to die for obvious reasons, Griffith included. There is so much more to do and cover up, I doubt we will see the Behelit Guts has, being used anytime soon.
Is there an explanation for why skull knight eats behelits? Im not that far into it and im getting the full breakdown from a 21 hour video on a channel i wish i didnt have to interact with, with about 10 hours left to go i would appreciate not having to wait yk?
@@adamsmasher9769 We know basically nothing about the Skull Knight yet, we just know that he is helping Guts because Guts might be the same as him. But lore wise, we know nothing about the Skull Knight yet. We might get some info when we get some lore about the God Hand members (prolly Archangel Void)
@@lilianz-on9gb Yeah but still, we know basically nothing, he is so bizarre. A theory is that Guts and Skull Knight are the same and Void was like Griffith to Guts. Especially when Void and Skull Knight had a small stare down during the Eclipse
@@Starial.astre1 yeah but i think the biggest question is 'what' he is He's not an apostle, nor an human anymore, what kind of thing is he is the biggest question
Pretty sure it's mentioned in the manga that the dragonslayer had soaked up that much apostle blood that it was possible it could damage beings like the god hand
I don’t think Guts should kill or beat Griffith, after the conviction arc it became clear to the audience that Guts chose to protect those he cares for over pursuing vengeance. Thus, it would make far more sense for Casca to kill Griffith for the poetic nature and irony of Griffith being killed by his own ‘sword’ as Casca has called herself many times before. Also, just as the beginning mentioned “You live by the sword, you die by the sword”. This would make for a fantastic and beautifully written ending.
Skull Knight himself was able to show some resistance to Griffiths reality warping abilities, if Guts wants any chance against him, hell need to learn about that
I heard that the end is going to be that Guts does NOT get revenge. Instead, he chooses to accept that terrible evil things happen, and you can do nothing but live with it. Not exactly what I want.
I could see that where he makes his own variant of the void sword off the dragon slayer. But also take into account he hasn't even mastered the armor itself. Something pointed out by the blacksmith created it also when he Masters the Berserker armor in complete control put it together with the sword we might see something but we don't know yet. There's also brings up the white armor theory when he does Master it that's been talked about a few times before.
Guts can't use the behelit because he's a sacrifice thats canon. Second transposing it onto his sword may kinda work but he's gonna need a lot more behelit's. It's been established how Guts can beat Griffith. He has to remove him from Griffiths narrative he's crafting around himself by letting go of the past and moving on like Rickert did, which allowed him to slap Griffith.
Imagine Guts uses it and sacrifices all of the newly introduced characters to reach his goal of avenging his comrades and defeating Griffith. Explaining Guts barely defeated Zodd, who got no diff my Griffith, theres no chance that even enchanting his weapon or maxing out the berserk armor is enough. Also, this ending would literally make the series the best manga/anime oat imo. Imagine Guts killing off the new characters to achieve his goal, similar to how Griffith sacrificed the BoTH. An incredible touch and true reflection of what the author has been praising all throughout the story: Greed.
Not only does he hate them, but apostles are indentured servants eternally to the god hand, meaning he’d be turning himself into a slave.
Exactly
What if he does use it and sacrifices his humanity and himself to become something more than apostle for the sole purpose of defeating Griffith? The God hand tries to control him, but his hatred is so strong that it gives rebirth to the idea of rage, something that competes for supremacy with the idea of evil every 10,000 years, and a new God is chosen for the idea of the millennium. This idea of rage choses it's own Godhand, and Guts is reborn as a member of it with Skull kinght, as calamities that battles the idea of Evil's Godhand. Or it could have an idea of righteousness/peace instead of rage as the 1st time Guts defeated Griffith was when he was calm. Each idea dictates what value will the creatures of each millennium have as their core value, for the current millennium, it's the idea of EVIL.
@@EliteSameerbehlits aren’t magic lamps you negotiate what youre willing to give not what power you receive
@@Eliburgo What if Guts rage for Griffith is so strong, that the behlit's sole purpose that is supposed to make Gut bend to the Godhand's will is crushed by his rage and the idea of rage makes him his apostle or Godhand member or what not. My point is, Authors are supposed to come up with new ideas, they can't just use what already exists unless it's in a twist or it's value is seemingly not important but ends up being important, in that regard, I believe the Author of Berserk would've come up with something new to let Guts kill Griffith, and I mean why not it's his manga and he can do whatever he wants with it.
@@EliteSameerMuira left an outline, the writers should adhere to it. No new ideas technically. I think the behelit will be a huge factor though. I don't think Guts will use it. Somehow, Griffith will take it from him and Guts will destroy it to sever causality
That's an INTERESTING Theory. I'd Completely Overlooked the possibility of fussing the behelit with the Dragon Slayer.😯
thing is, guts is still human. no matter how strong his sword is, he’ll never touch Griffith
@@KyeXGamer Skull Knight's sword which is also infused with a behelit can harm members of God Hand. It's confirmed by the fact that Void had to use spatial magic to warp the sword away instead of just tanking it when Skull Knight tried to hit him. Furthermore, Dragon Slayer successfully cut a single strand of Griffith's hair in one of the chapters.
@@KyeXGamer: Consider this, before facing griffith they use magic to suppress brand like before. Yes I'm aware they won't be able to suppress it COMPLETELY. But we've seen Guts Power through same INTENSE pain already. If they can lower it Just enough to wear he can tolerate it, Guts Might have a chance.!
All it would realistically do is make an incredibly destructive weapon. Now if he fused it into his berserker armor. Then something might change
@@KyeXGamera Griffith supporter. Kinda sus
That actually would be peak writing. I would genuinely love to see Guts, with a calm mindset battling Griffith and winning instead of seeing a mad Guts just mindlessly swinging his sword against Griffith thinking it'll do something eventually.
"The powerful men are the ones who control their anger and emotions" indeed.
So Guts masters Ultra Instinct?!
@@sethsword9680 Pretty much yes but I don't think that it's gonna be the same effect as Ultra Instinct
@@nostandsama9974 Ultra Violence
Yo you completely changed my mind on berserk. Guys fighting Griffith with a calm and peaceful fight is beautiful. Think about it. In their first fight guts was swinging wildly and lost, because Griffith wasn’t blinded by rage. In the second one, the mental state is reversed and Griffith loses but is left alive again by Guts. Griffith would be happy dying while living his dream but if guts lets him live and takes all of that it’s worse than death to Griffith
Instead Griffith will so PISSED of Guts not using his Rage. He wants him to stay angry at him so he can taunt him but Guts with a Calm mindset and just fucking Griffith over mentally
There's a theory that you can only lay hands on Griffith if you don't harbor ill intentions or malevolence towards him. That would explain why Rickert, who could never truly hate Griffith, was able to bitch-slap him, which was the first time Griffith was actually harmed in any way since becoming a god hand member.
I love that theory
It’s like the only way to defeat evil is not with hate and wrath but simply better judgement
I get the feeling that just happened because Griffith allowed it. Either for appearances sake or because there’s still a tiny shred of humanity left in him.
@@michaelkimberling7307 I agree with the partial humanity left theory but Griffith wasn't anticipating Rickert slapping him .. there's definitely something to that moment that foreshadows the way to touch Griffith.
@@michaelkimberling7307 oh god I hope that they don't use Casca as the one to kill Griffith.. if it's Guts and Casca then I'd be alright with that ..but I kinda want a 1v1 between them.
Very interesting theory, I did actually wonder how rickert was able to land on him.
Kentaro Miura handed over his ideas and the ending of Berserk to his team before his death. Let's hope they do it right.
Lol yea that's the story the people using the property say
Who can confirms it? Maybe they are lying and don't want to stop earning from the franchise
@@darkknight4353 True, but it's completely believable that some people besides Miura knew the ending. Of course they don't know everything from A to Z, but just the really big stuff makes sense for his best friend and some team members to know.
@@MrPopo-nn7kpto my understanding, him and his childhood friend both know how they're mangas end and made a pact that if one would not be able to complete it, the other would do so for them. How true it is I'm not sure, but time will tell I guess.
@MrPopo-nn7kp except for the fact that we literally saw him training up his assistants and it was a well established fact that he chatted about it a lot with his Mangaka friend that knew Berserk when it was just doodles in a notebook
Griffith, the strongest plot armor ever
Griffith literally lives outside and harnesses the powers of fate/destiny itself to some extent...so yeah he quite literally has self given plot armor😂 Skull Knight said it himself that Guts will quite literally have to go beyond fate itself if he wants to defeat griffith
You know it’s called being the main character?
For gay Batman suit😂
Now after reading almost all of the manga... I am blessed for knowing that Berserk is not my first anime... 😅@@Asteroid-Destroyer-b4h
In their last encounter guts *did* land a hit on him. It just didn’t do anything. Also skullknight came at Griffith with a sword *made* of behelits and Griffith was just like “thanks dawg, gonna just yoink to combine the physical and astral world”.
Guts ran through all the stages of grief through out the story:
he was in denial when he ran away from the cave and met skull knight right after the eclipse, then during the entire quest to recover cascas meomries he was in anger, right after casca recovered he entered bargaining, and right now he was left in a deep state of depression
so it does really look like hes about to enter Acceptance.
There's a guy who has this theory that Sonya will betray Griffith by telling everyone the truth about the band of the hawk and as guts and Griffith fights, Guts will be nearly killed and Griffith takes his behelit. Right as he summons the Godhand, Guts will break the behelit and thus severs Causality and removing Griffiths status as a Godhand.
Why would Griffith summon the Godhand? Well, once people realize he's a fraud, his fantasy is ruined and the only way the Godhand get their power is through fear and malice and lies so he needs the rest of the Godhand to intervene to enact that fear back into place.
He’s not “purely driven by rage” at least not anymore. Becoming close with his new allies has helped him diminish a lot of that anger, as well as accepting the truth of himself running away from it when he spoke with Godo the blacksmith.
guts winning after having control over his emotions makes so much sense in practice and thematically
He need to unlock ultra instinct, or at least the berserk equivalent of it, that eerie calm that could even defeat a god.
Nah that's stupid. No more power unlocks, this isn't dragon ball, it needs to be a more nuanced and meaningful instead of "I just trained hard and become strong"
Berserk has almost never been about that.
@@RisingInTheFlesh True, mostly self development and well.. GRIIFIIIIIIIIIIITH, trauma..
@@RisingInTheFleshUltra Instinct is more a state of mind than a power up, though.
The moment when Guts kills Griffith will undoubtedly be one of the most anticipated and pivotal moments in manga history. If the writers present this moment with the depth and intensity it deserves, it could become a defining moment in the art of storytelling
Sadly the main writer is died 😔
Imagine thinking this story will have a happy ending.
Knowing berserk it'd probably be a sad and gory disturbing fight
I think the godhand also said in the prolouge guts cant become an apostle because he has the mark
Right. He's already branded as a sacrifice.
"I have never believed in anything, in anyone, in anything, except in you" Guts referring to his sword, I hope the character grows, abandons the anger and the idea of having only the sword because he has friends he can trust and who will fight alongside him
Imo he'll learn to control the Berserker armor with a calm mind, because it was stated that the closer he'll get to griffith the more the brand will hurt. And the pain could kill him
He just needs to play animal crossing. That wil calm him down.
That’s where he then meets THE DOOM SLAYER and isabelle!!!! they become best friends and together they defeat the god hand once and for all 😈
@@CappyBara420doom slayer solos the entire berserk universe easy. Isabelle too.
@@jacobjaramillo3192now that I think about it doom slayer would of actually be a pretty fitting character in berserk
@@DiaBolicalDeathly Doomguy will be a bestie for Guts
@@Coloumbianfacts 😂 both driven by rage
Wrong, he just needs to swing dragon slayer harder
MORE POWER
And scream GRIFFITH even more louder while swinging...
A long time ago before berserk was popular i read a theory online that suggested that guts would die fighting femto, which in return would devastate femto and bring back some of his humanity and then it would be femto who kills the god hand... seemed pretty fitting to the story.
Instead of guts thinking of everyone as enemies, it would be nice to see guts at the end of the series having that "I have no enemies" vibe to him
Before that even happens, there needs to be so much more character development for Guts. In his current state. It's impossible. He's all but seemingly given up.
It makes sense, honestly. Guts is *defined* by his relationship with Griffith as of right now, and while it's 100% understandable, that's what empowers Griffith.
When Guts beat Griffith the first time, it wasn't just with a calm mind, but with a goal that was at best tangentially related to Griffith - finding his own dream. Once Guts is able to heal himself mentally and spiritually, by not seeing Griffith as the ultimate goal or what gives him reason for being, while still acknowledging what Griffith is, what he's done, and why he needs to be stopped, that's when he'll defeat Griffith.
Significantly easier said than done though, it'll still be the most difficult thing Guts will ever do. 😅
POV: me praying Netflix doesn’t go back on their word and actually finishes the new adaptation and continues the series so I don’t die without seeing the ending😭
I think that the way that berserk would end is guts finally letting go of revenge in a important moment to save casca and his comrades, making him realise that they're more important than that. That would make griffith lose his cool, because he lost control of guts and casca again. Then they would have a last fight, with griffith afraid of losing his control and guts protecting what he loves.
Another insane theory could go as guts relying in the power of the mark and the infused behelith DragonSlayer giving up his humanity to became a monster so that way he could kill Griffith, ending his own life as soon as he finish Griffith in order to acomplish his vengace and not being taken as an eternal slave of hand of god
Guts cant become an apostle either because hes branded as a sacrifice
Griffith wants Guts to focus only on him. Guts can defeat Griffith by simply walking away and ignore Griffith. And Guts would have won until Griffith kidnapped Caska.
You're still thinking along the same lines of causality that have led every action of Guts since after his birth - and every action done by a character from being who they are falls under the laws of cause and effect dictating their fate, which falls under the power of the Godhand. The Godhand don't so much control space, as most people seem to think, but more accurately control the effects of a cause that falls under what should happen based upon the individual's actions who are responsible for the cause...when that individual's actions are what would be true to their character. That is how Void & Femto move Skull Knight's strikes, as SK is still following an action true to his desires, and that is why when the Slug apostle goes against his desire to live out of live for his daughter that Void's power to create the sacrificial ceremony doesn't work - not that Void chose to stop it but that they were powerless to enact it due to the "breaking of chains of causality" (I think he even says it) and fall back on their ability to take his soul due to their old pact that made him an apostle.
If Guts keeps trying to kill Femto, then Femto will forever be able to manipulate Guts's actions to make that impossible due to causality.
In order to defeat Femto aka The Big G, Guts will have to go against everything he desires, against his armor, hus inner demons and do the opposite truly without guile against himself. Only then will the Godhand be powerless against him. What that is - who knows...though I have a theory that you and most aren't going to like...
One idea - and only a part of this may be true but lets go all out into my lunacy - is maybe that their is an Idea of Good that exists like the Idea of Evil, just waiting to be born. As IOE rules fate/causality subjective to the individual, then perhaps the IOG rules true choice that is objective of self. That said and back to Guts, Guts is going to have to forgive Griffith & not fight him - which would, as we've seen when he was alive as a human, will enrage Griffith's hubris that makes him take chaotic actions...and he will kill Guts.
I told you that you wouldnt like it - but keep reading...
Maybe the behelit isnt made by the IOE but something beyond, and it will activate in a different way, not screaming but enlightened, and the IOG will be born and it will do to Guts what IOE did to Griffith, and Guts will be reborn into its first angel.
Griffith will have broken his own chains of causality and lise his connection to the IOE & now be vunerable - and then the two winged angels will finally have their epic duel.
Batshit crazy, I know - but the main point abd most likely according to all evidence is that Guts will have to not do what he has always done and the man that eludes death will finally have to submit to it in order to somehow break causality to win this battle.
Based on how schierke could see griffith’s maelstrom I believe they’d have to fight the god hand in the astral plane
And guess what? He lost all his anger now so Mabye he’s on the right path
the only way he can beat griffith is when he has a calm mind and lets griffith go and retires from his crusade for revenge
Can't he just kill Griffith in the moonlight child form?
It would make sense for them to go that route. It's been a while, but isn't the moonlit child the result of guts and cascas child being corrupted from femto when he raped casca? If so, then it would be the perfect way for femto to die via his own selfish urge for revenge against guts.
Ahh you guys and Guts killing children
I don't think he can. I think the moonlight child is invincible since he is Griffith
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@@RisingInTheFlesh He is griffith but at the same he isnt.
They share body but moonlight boy its guts and casca child so he is a lot more vulnerable since Griffith isnt in control there
What if he does use it and sacrifices his humanity and himself to become something more than apostle for the sole purpose of defeating Griffith? The God hand tries to control him, but his hatred is so strong that it gives rebirth to the idea of rage, something that competes for supremacy with the idea of evil every 10,000 years, and a new God is chosen for the idea of the millennium. This idea of rage choses it's own Godhand, and Guts is reborn as a member of it with Skull kinght, as calamities that battles the idea of Evil's Godhand. Or we could have an idea of righteousness/peace instead of rage as the 1st time Guts defeated Griffith was when he was calm. Each idea dictates what value will the creatures of each millennium have as their core value, for the current millennium, it's the idea of EVIL.
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That’s super cool idea!
Damn this actually sounds pretty badass.
Guts isn't exactly the most morally upstanding guy so the idea of rage makes more sense, regardless of what he tells himself, he's doing everything because he just hates Griffith for personal betrayal, not because he thinks he can save humanity. If Griffith hadn't sacrificed the whole band, just someone nobody likes like Karkus and just made the rest his personal honor guard or something and changed nothing else about the godhand plan, Guts and the rest would have stood by him, especially when he tells them his plan to turn Midland into Falconia.
Hold up !!
His writing is this fire ??🔥🔥
How Griffith became a member of god hand, however his sacrifice is not complete yet because guts and casca had survived
It was complete. There was enough blood and death for him to fully transform. Just Guts and Casca were the leftovers
The things you hate the most you end up becoming one
Other theory: Maybe he can infuse his dragonslayer with the beast of darkness to make it stronger.
That's how it 100% should be as the whole story is the manifestation of the "turtle which beats rabbit"
Calm mind is the only way. Guts finally conquering his rage and achieving state of complete spiritual enlightenment where his emotions no longer control him that is the only way Berserk should end at least imo :)
It would be pretty cool if he used the behelit to become spiritually connected with the sword, kinda like nightmare from soul calibur.
It would empower guts greatly and maybe give him some dark magic?
fusing the behelit with his sword would be dope
I don't know. I thought his armor was powered by his rage, making him stronger & pretty much unstoppable till he bleeds out
You could be a scenarist for the rest of the work, thanks for this bref but very good insight 👍
"If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." Casca will absolutely try to rescue her son "the moonlight boy" and die trying. Guts will give in to the beast within and sacrifice his allies once his behelit turn red. The only one that comes out of this alive is Schierke. Grown up and with a brand of her own.
I think one of the chance Guts can beat God Hand, is by enter their main domain. Like Guts and others can find a way to get their Astral body and found it, he like likely any chance. But with Griffith case he's kinda unique he manifest himself in Physical world, that mean he can be "Harm" in some way. For example Ricket manage to Slap him, and in couple latest chapter Guts manage to cut Griffith, even though is just a strain of Hair.
I think the key to hitting him is his attacks can't harbor any malice or ill intentions. I think since then Godhand are basically primordial evil incarnate, they resonate with those emotions and use it to navigate causality, thus knowing exactly what to do and when to do it. Without these emotions, I think it will be difficult for them to predict an attack and make them susceptible to being harmed.
there's an alternate timeline where Gutz is an apostle. Imagine how badass he would look.
Anger with worthless without the anvil of control.
I love berserker and guts 😢
Would anyone agree that guts is the Kratos of the anime verse?
*music start playing*
"GRRIFITH! I CAME FOR A VENGEANCE,COME DOWN AND FIGHT ME!"
Griffith your old friend has returned I bring the destruction of your dream
the weakness is the moon boy....... duh
As far as we know about the behelits they could be the source of the apostle power meaning every apostle must have a weak spot where the behelit is Griffith was holding it in his left hand. Guts could possibly cut off his left hand with the dragon, slayer sword infused with a behelit, that might get him
I think Guts will be able to defeat Griffit because of the moonlight boy. Griffith is the falcon of darkness and i believe the MB is the falcon of light, and now they are fused together and this means Griffith is traped with a being who wants to protect Casca and Guts. I also believe the godhand, especially Void, have some kind of a plottwist prepared for Griffith, Miura said once that Void is the key for the godhand plans, not Griffith. I believe Void has a very specific objective in mind and Griffith is a means to an end
Moonlight Boy is the key. Guts and Casca’s kid fused with Griffith and has a separate will of his own still. That’s why he’s able to manifest separately and it’s why Griffith stole Casca again- the part of him that is ghost fetus/moonlight boy wants his mother. That’s Griffith’s weak spot right now. It’s a clue that he’s not in complete control
Damn i hope he continue his manga
But he cant
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Guts somehow not outright killing Griffith but overpowering him and remaining calm and the whole thing being so much Griffith breaks down again at being unable to control people and ends it all would be the most ironic cathartic ending for someone who feels and seems so powerful. A god being made to feel worthless and unloved in comparison to a human would be peak satisfaction
yeah i like the idea that all this time guts been told that the behelit might not even be for him, maybe the behelit is recipient is the dragon slayer, a weapon that might have a living aura of itself after slaying lots of creatures and apostles, plus the sorrow and anger of its owner
Thats a really interesting theory and also guts attacked griffith in last episodes and he couldnt even touch him
Guts will defeat Griffith the same way the protagonists from Freddy’s Dead kill Freddy. They’ll bring him from the astral plane to the physical, somehow.
i wish i can live to see this legend end
That wasn't their last meeting. In their last meeting, Guts landed his sword on Griffiths bare body and it doesn't even phase him.
or the armour eats the egg and it itself becomes an apostle armour monster that feeds off guts' anger
When Guts first visited the swordsmith who made the dragonslayer, the smith told him it was a "weapon that could kill that which cannot be killed"... makes you wonder
Skeleton homie got a whole weapon made of behelits and that thing is op as hell
We won't ever realise what could be the real final
The story is called Berserk. He wouldn't be Guts without his rage.
Seeing grifith being sliced in half and hearing the gyts theme playing as it runs down his sword is all I ask for before dying
I thaught that Griffith was the most important person for Guts so he might get sacrificed so Guts can become an apostle.
Imo, I think it would be more fitting that guts doesn’t kill him. Guts has been trying incredibly hard to not fall into that rabbit hole. He knows if he kills Griffith, he wouldn’t stop. It would be very cool to see both of them duel and guts spares him, like he did so many years before. Or honestly seeing Rickert or Casca delivering the final blow would be satisfying
“Nahh I’d win”ahh ending
Guts will kill Griffith because it’s part of Griffith plan all along. This is the narratively correct ending to berserk.
Chances are their final showdown will be a reminiscent showdown of when Gutsu left the BOH, and they kill each other. Well, Guts will somehow win, but die shortly afterwards.
this anime is literally every reddit story
Don’t ignore the potential of the Berserker Armor, most of the time it controls Guts due to his rage, but maybe when he can control his emotions, he would use it effectively
I think sacrificing the Moonlight Child will play a role in Griffith's downfall.
That's a good theory, especially the parallels and theories implied with Guts and Skull Knight
I just wonder WHEN all of this will happen. I don't see Berserk being remotely close to the end as of right now considering the current situations, I can see the manga going on for a few more years.
Thing is that all the God Hand members need to die for obvious reasons, Griffith included. There is so much more to do and cover up, I doubt we will see the Behelit Guts has, being used anytime soon.
Is there an explanation for why skull knight eats behelits? Im not that far into it and im getting the full breakdown from a 21 hour video on a channel i wish i didnt have to interact with, with about 10 hours left to go i would appreciate not having to wait yk?
@@adamsmasher9769 We know basically nothing about the Skull Knight yet, we just know that he is helping Guts because Guts might be the same as him.
But lore wise, we know nothing about the Skull Knight yet. We might get some info when we get some lore about the God Hand members (prolly Archangel Void)
@@Starial.astre1we know he was king Gaiseric at least, and that he witnessed Void ascent as a godhad
@@lilianz-on9gb Yeah but still, we know basically nothing, he is so bizarre.
A theory is that Guts and Skull Knight are the same and Void was like Griffith to Guts. Especially when Void and Skull Knight had a small stare down during the Eclipse
@@Starial.astre1 yeah but i think the biggest question is 'what' he is
He's not an apostle, nor an human anymore, what kind of thing is he is the biggest question
A Behelit Dragon Slayer would be so cool, even if there's other endings that would be better narrative-wise, man, I wish it happens at some point.
I don't want Griffith to die, he's my favourite
Pretty sure it's mentioned in the manga that the dragonslayer had soaked up that much apostle blood that it was possible it could damage beings like the god hand
Someone on reddit spoke about the idea of Guts shoving his Behilit into his broken eye to see causality.
I think hes going to activate the behilit because it's his but then defy fate and not sacrifice anyone.
Have a feeling guts hair turns all white
Pretty good man
Tbh all Guts has to do is kiss griffith and call him his perfect boy
I don’t think Guts should kill or beat Griffith, after the conviction arc it became clear to the audience that Guts chose to protect those he cares for over pursuing vengeance. Thus, it would make far more sense for Casca to kill Griffith for the poetic nature and irony of Griffith being killed by his own ‘sword’ as Casca has called herself many times before. Also, just as the beginning mentioned “You live by the sword, you die by the sword”. This would make for a fantastic and beautifully written ending.
Skull Knight himself was able to show some resistance to Griffiths reality warping abilities, if Guts wants any chance against him, hell need to learn about that
Bruh guts hasn’t stood a chance since 1989
I heard that the end is going to be that Guts does NOT get revenge. Instead, he chooses to accept that terrible evil things happen, and you can do nothing but live with it. Not exactly what I want.
I could see that where he makes his own variant of the void sword off the dragon slayer. But also take into account he hasn't even mastered the armor itself. Something pointed out by the blacksmith created it also when he Masters the Berserker armor in complete control put it together with the sword we might see something but we don't know yet.
There's also brings up the white armor theory when he does Master it that's been talked about a few times before.
Guts can't use the behelit because he's a sacrifice thats canon. Second transposing it onto his sword may kinda work but he's gonna need a lot more behelit's. It's been established how Guts can beat Griffith. He has to remove him from Griffiths narrative he's crafting around himself by letting go of the past and moving on like Rickert did, which allowed him to slap Griffith.
He just need to stay calm composed and keep patience and be in a hunt of right time to kill griffith ..
Aw c'mon Guts is never going to ever meet him again
True love's kiss...
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Im afraid we might lose guts in the end. But also he deserves a good rest.
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it's sad we will never know what the true ending of berserk 😢
Not to mention, the fact the he is more disabled than in his last encounter with Griffith
Imagine Guts uses it and sacrifices all of the newly introduced characters to reach his goal of avenging his comrades and defeating Griffith. Explaining Guts barely defeated Zodd, who got no diff my Griffith, theres no chance that even enchanting his weapon or maxing out the berserk armor is enough.
Also, this ending would literally make the series the best manga/anime oat imo. Imagine Guts killing off the new characters to achieve his goal, similar to how Griffith sacrificed the BoTH. An incredible touch and true reflection of what the author has been praising all throughout the story: Greed.
Idk man, seeing guts turn into the full fledge beast of darkness might go too hard
The Godslayer
This is a berserk theory I can get behind