Makes sense they switched to rapid rails because they are really calm compared to the Amreps that would break bins constantly. Scorpions also worked I guess but looks like they went with these.
ZRs suck from what I've heard and probably wouldn't be good with organics. Hopefully Heil provides ESD with good customer service to make up for Amrep's deficiency
Glad to see that ESD experimented again with Rapid Rails. I do like Amreps, but it’s a nice break from them considering ESD’s fleet pre-2023 was all Amreps. I wish LABOS would do something like this, branch out, or at least try some different cabs other than their conformative Amrep with a Peterbilt 520 cab.
San Diego really said “How can we make the routes longer?” Cool to finally see some footage of the new ESD RRs, but i feel the city made a rushed decision on what to buy. Honestly thought they’d hop onto the Labrie or New Way bandwagon, we’ll see how well and how long these will last, can already tell packing will be an issue to keep with (especially when you have to tilt the body up on route to make more room). Nice video
I agree. They were dissatisfied with Amrep (for very valid reasons imo) and they were scrambling to find something they could get 100 of. They didn’t have time to buy 3 units at a time and test them out like they did with the Scorpions. The packing as you mentioned is a huge problem, I saw multiple drivers climbing up the hopper to clear jams, which has caused more than a few injuries since the rapid rail first came out. The autopack also mysteriously stopped working after the driver raised the body in that one shot.
I guess non city carts is common theme down there. I saw plenty of Pacific, LABOS, edco, and AW carts when I was down there over the summer. Cool video, loved the tilt pack shot.
This is pretty interesting to see a city go from fast amreps to rapid rails. However loved the up close hopper shot and seeing the body up too. Great video!
My god you got all access! Alright first with the truck, it's great to see San Diego run something other than Amreps and growing up with Rapid Rails myself, I definitely won't mind seeing this coming down my street. Now on to practicality... I don't see a problem with broken lids anymore but I see a lot more carts starting to crack pre maturely if the pressure isn't set just right. I think cart spacing and trying not to hit a cart or bumper could be a major issue too especially in areas that don't have a lot of space on the street as it is like in older Claremont. Do you know why they didn't get them with tag axle like they did with the Amreps?
Wow, what a surprise! Never expected them to get rapid rails! I wonder if the rest of the their fleet they're buying will be these or if they'll try other bodies. I sure hope Heil treats them better than Amrep did. I like the body raise cause I totally forgot how the padel packer blade's cylinder set up looked like. I'm happy to see they got these with the right kind of grabbers and not those other ones. Look forward to seeing more of their incoming fleet! Adding more time to their routes is something I'm sure the drivers aren't happy about.
Thanks! It is a little unexpected lol. They’re getting 98 of these, so those drivers are in for a rough time for the next 10 years lol. It will be a while before they get other ASLs again. My prediction is that they will not be ordering these again after all the new units come in. I totally disagree on the grabbers, these aren’t big enough to handle the cans where a different style grabber would actually hug the cans instead of pinching them. thanks for checking it out!
It will be interesting to see how these will handle some of the heavy routes. I think ESD would have been better with New Way Sidewinders like Long Beach has. Overall, great video!
Sidewinders would be good if not for the alleys. Long Beach has the right idea with using RLs in all their alleys, avoiding a lot of the problems you see here
Great video! It was neat to see the various shots you included, seeing inside the hopper, cab, the packer cylinders moving around beneath the body, and the oddball carts laying around. For a city known to provide lighting fast service it's unsettling to see this, but I'd say they're a good addition for the alleys where Amreps may be "too violent" in tight spaces. The truck doesn't move at a bad pace though. Overall the blue stripes look good with San Diego's basic design and the new Autocar brand plate, nice job filming this
IMO Amreps are better than these in alleys, just skip to 8:03 and you can see how much slower this arm is compared to how an Amrep would perform. Thanks for checking it out!
@@trashmonster26 true, but I was only basing that off service, not efficiency. I’ve seen some older videos where Amreps slammed lids against fences and such, whereas these don’t. However Amrep grippers sure are better for sliding between carts
The most nostalgic thing about garbage trucks I will ever feel
people won't have to complane about broken cans lol great video
Makes sense they switched to rapid rails because they are really calm compared to the Amreps that would break bins constantly. Scorpions also worked I guess but looks like they went with these.
Pretty cool to see cities like San Diego and Phoenix to go full circle back to Rapid Rails
Yeah, I think those old CCC ones worked better just based on speed back in those days. Fat EG carts don’t help either
Were these purchased because of the pendulum packer to handle the new organics collection?
@@garbageproductions1 They aren't that smart. These were cheaper than ZRs and they had some previous experience with them, that was pretty much it.
ZRs suck from what I've heard and probably wouldn't be good with organics. Hopefully Heil provides ESD with good customer service to make up for Amrep's deficiency
@@garbageproductions1 how do they suck? can fit well over 10 tons on trash if the hydraulics are working right
Legit thought this was from Torrance for a second..
9:45 FIRE!!! 🔥
Weird to see a San Diego truck with blue stripes! Great video!
Glad to see that ESD experimented again with Rapid Rails. I do like Amreps, but it’s a nice break from them considering ESD’s fleet pre-2023 was all Amreps. I wish LABOS would do something like this, branch out, or at least try some different cabs other than their conformative Amrep with a Peterbilt 520 cab.
San Diego really said “How can we make the routes longer?”
Cool to finally see some footage of the new ESD RRs, but i feel the city made a rushed decision on what to buy. Honestly thought they’d hop onto the Labrie or New Way bandwagon, we’ll see how well and how long these will last, can already tell packing will be an issue to keep with (especially when you have to tilt the body up on route to make more room). Nice video
I agree. They were dissatisfied with Amrep (for very valid reasons imo) and they were scrambling to find something they could get 100 of. They didn’t have time to buy 3 units at a time and test them out like they did with the Scorpions. The packing as you mentioned is a huge problem, I saw multiple drivers climbing up the hopper to clear jams, which has caused more than a few injuries since the rapid rail first came out. The autopack also mysteriously stopped working after the driver raised the body in that one shot.
@@trashmonster26 I was watching 815 400 do recycling in my neighborhood and the hopper looked pretty full.
@Michael Horgan does 400 do your recycling usually? Because 400 does my trash
Nice work! It sounds just like 400!
Also right now they have 400-407 not 401-407
I guess non city carts is common theme down there. I saw plenty of Pacific, LABOS, edco, and AW carts when I was down there over the summer. Cool video, loved the tilt pack shot.
This is pretty interesting to see a city go from fast amreps to rapid rails. However loved the up close hopper shot and seeing the body up too. Great video!
Thank you! Glad you noticed that
Wow I’ve Been waiting for a video of these new trucks!
Honestly Pretty cool trucks! Saw 401 Driving on Wednesday Downtown, 404 Works in Point loma I believe Also
Much better sounding then the peterbilts
These are so quiet you’ll barely hear them
@@trashmonster26 no I can hear them pretty well
Awesome find! Not even that old and it's already picking up dirt!
lol the landfill will do that
@@trashmonster26 yep
Great Video! Thats going to take some time to get used to! Great work! Those blue stripes are a bit strange, but over all pretty cool looking!
they do! especially when it’s parked next to a truck with orange stripes
My god you got all access! Alright first with the truck, it's great to see San Diego run something other than Amreps and growing up with Rapid Rails myself, I definitely won't mind seeing this coming down my street. Now on to practicality... I don't see a problem with broken lids anymore but I see a lot more carts starting to crack pre maturely if the pressure isn't set just right. I think cart spacing and trying not to hit a cart or bumper could be a major issue too especially in areas that don't have a lot of space on the street as it is like in older Claremont. Do you know why they didn't get them with tag axle like they did with the Amreps?
I wish trucks like this serviced the city of Del Mar as opposed to those ratty rotos
I thought this was Glendale for a second
They should've gone with heil pythons, mcneilus ZRs, or maybe labries.
Pythons would not have been much better lol but maybe ZR or Labrie would do the trick
wow this truck is awesome nice work
Wow, what a surprise! Never expected them to get rapid rails! I wonder if the rest of the their fleet they're buying will be these or if they'll try other bodies. I sure hope Heil treats them better than Amrep did. I like the body raise cause I totally forgot how the padel packer blade's cylinder set up looked like. I'm happy to see they got these with the right kind of grabbers and not those other ones. Look forward to seeing more of their incoming fleet! Adding more time to their routes is something I'm sure the drivers aren't happy about.
Thanks! It is a little unexpected lol. They’re getting 98 of these, so those drivers are in for a rough time for the next 10 years lol. It will be a while before they get other ASLs again. My prediction is that they will not be ordering these again after all the new units come in. I totally disagree on the grabbers, these aren’t big enough to handle the cans where a different style grabber would actually hug the cans instead of pinching them. thanks for checking it out!
On the bright side, these grabbers can grab even 30 gallon reuigs tightly instead of the by the wheels like the other ones as shown at 6:24
@@normanli7085 true. These would work for a city with lots of small cans, but not San Diego
It will be interesting to see how these will handle some of the heavy routes. I think ESD would have been better with New Way Sidewinders like Long Beach has. Overall, great video!
Sidewinders would be good if not for the alleys. Long Beach has the right idea with using RLs in all their alleys, avoiding a lot of the problems you see here
rapid rails won't break the bins as much tho
are they changing their color scheme now?
That republic cart at 3:49
Great video! It was neat to see the various shots you included, seeing inside the hopper, cab, the packer cylinders moving around beneath the body, and the oddball carts laying around. For a city known to provide lighting fast service it's unsettling to see this, but I'd say they're a good addition for the alleys where Amreps may be "too violent" in tight spaces. The truck doesn't move at a bad pace though. Overall the blue stripes look good with San Diego's basic design and the new Autocar brand plate, nice job filming this
IMO Amreps are better than these in alleys, just skip to 8:03 and you can see how much slower this arm is compared to how an Amrep would perform. Thanks for checking it out!
@@trashmonster26 true, but I was only basing that off service, not efficiency. I’ve seen some older videos where Amreps slammed lids against fences and such, whereas these don’t. However Amrep grippers sure are better for sliding between carts
Slamming kids 👧👦 against dances🕺
@@andrewthetrashkid1435 good lord I typed that too fast
What was the driver's name that was driving 404?
no more amrep?
Not for a while
The peterbilts were becoming way to problematic and breaking down alot
Not the best choice imo. Nice video though.