Hey guys - Mary here - apologies on the occasional audio static here. Making technical adjustments in our winter location so we can do better for you moving forward. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!
Eric best tip ever. Over 50years ago I was given the very same instruction by my golf coach. At impact Hogan said he felt he could hit the ball flush like he had 2 right hands. I was hitting the ball so flush that I felt I could actually hit the call off concrete. I played my best golf and my coach told me to get Hogan’s book on the 5 Fundamentals. Over the years I gotten away from the move you just showed me. I can’t wait to get out and do this. Thanx So Much
Beautiful explanation tks i think i finally get it been so afraid to hit the ball what everyone says is a no no my arms are verbal passive especially the right hand and arm no no hitting putting pressure on the back of the ball with right arm and hand going across the chest has escaped me for a lifetime even though i read Hogans book years ago YOUR explanation of how he created so much power especially through the hitting area oops did i say hitting bad word right is brilliant as usual tks so much for your insightful priceless coaching
Great stuff. Ben Hogan has been my golf idol and inspiration for over 60 years now. I started teaching myself golf from his book, "The Modern Fundamentals of Golf", which is still as true and clear as it was then. Thanks.
Eric, Best tip ever. Hogan said in his book 5 Fundamentals at impact he felt like he had 2 right hands. Over 50 years ago my golf coach showed me exactly what you just showed. I played my best golf then actually feeling like I could hit my irons flush off of concrete. Over the years I lost that feeling and have been searching to get it back. He told me the only reference I should refer to is Hogan’s 5 Fundamentals and not to read any other magazines or books on golf instruction since it could lead to paralysis by analysis. You have done it Thanx so much. Can’t wait to get out to the range.
Elbow over the wrist bone.....a key phrase. The bowing of the wrist helps drive that elbow to that position.... Hogan did the opposite in the backswing to that which he wanted on the downswing... Cupped wrist going back....bowed wrist coming down Internal elbow rotation going back...external rotated going into downswing... Doing this gives the moves more power as they reverse themselves into the downswing. Very Good Video! Ballard talked of this. Ballard referred to Hogan pointing his trail elbow away on the backswing, then driving it in on the downswing. The videos you choose are from Hogan in his 50s. His 1953 swings are his best IMO. The arm working across the chest is a new one to me.. SO the arms gain speed on the chest? Again, great video, thanks.
As someone who has limited external shoulder rotation this drill has helped me get a more shallow downswing. Been lucky to try this on the course and the results are amazing. A massive thank you from me.
Great stuff, Eric, as usual. I was watching a Greg McHatton video and he was relaying a story told by Jim Waldron who asked Tom Weisskopf what was his greatest lesson ever. Weisskopf said Mr. Hogan told him to superglue the right arm (from just above the elbow to the arm pit) to the right side of his body as he was delivering the club into the ball. That’s the adduction concept you are referencing here in your video (he also said to do the same thing with the left arm!). That feeling of tightness or connection adds to the stability of the club working through the hitting area as the strike is delivered more with the pivot than with the arms and hands. Great explanation of the external rotation and the lining up of the pit of the elbow with the wrist bone. Looking forward to future videos on Mr. Hogan’s magic moves. Thanks for sharing.
Great tip, and fantastic explanation and demonstration. Bravo! About 6-7 years ago I developed a “feel” in my swing that I would lean with the right elbow, and it worked fantastic. Perhaps I never should have gotten away from it.
I have been struggling to hit anything under an 8 iron, dang this tip just took me to another level. Last night at the range I was able to hit my 6 iron straight with loft I never had before; keeping my lead arm elbow tucked felt a little awkward at first but once I got the feeling my consistency improved so much. I just bought the Orange Whip too; so with the orange whip my tempo and back swing are a 3:1 ratio, and with the elbow trick it all came together to produce some amazing long iron shots. I noticed the elbow is almost attached to my side with the short irons and begins to travel a little bit away from the body with the longer irons. Amazing, Simply amazing. Thanks, Eric!!
Eric, I am from Chile. I appreciate so much yours tip, especially this one " The right arm moves", I started playing golf just 2 years ago, and right now I have hdcp 15. Thanks for all your lessons. Sorry my english.
Hogan set up his right arm to fold as it did by how he gripped the club in the air with bent elbows then straightened the arms while lowering it. Using the Vardon grip correctly with the left thumb fitting into the groove created by holding the left thumb tight to the left index finger causes the ulna and radius bones to rotated around themselves putting them mid-way in their range of motion and twisting the arms as illustrated in Five Lessons with the illustration of the hands wringing the towel. With the club lowered he then pressed down with right arm against left thumb in the grip pulling all the slackness and “give” out of his arms. That’s how he achieved that tight V connection between upper arms and rib cage that countless clueless golfer try to create by trying to pull arms in against ribs with gloves or towels in their sweat armpits. Getting the right arm to stay tucked in during the backswing up to the top is just a matter of letting the club face open with wrist action in the takeaway because the swing plane going up to the top is influenced by the direction the toe of the club head is pointing. If pointing forward toward the target line the path up will be steep like Nicklaus whose preferred shot is a high fade. To the the very tight inside path Hogan let the toe point backwards which steered it on a much lower path preventing his right arm from separating. The moving club generates so much force, so quickly it becomes difficult to steer with the hands after the first 18 inches or so why pre-torquing the arms and hands with the techniques I mentioned is critical for a consistent swing. So is never grounding the club. Letting the club hang freely and swing in towards body as you lean over at the hips brings the wedges and irons into balance like a pendulum and the counter weight of the club head mass hanging out at the ball is what allowed Hogan to sit down backwards balanced on his heels at address to anticipate being pulled forward by the club force before impact. All Hogan’s secrets are seen in plain sight in videos of his swing including the waggle move which at address was actually a rehearsal of how he “hammered” down at the ball maxing out ulnar deviation and locking wrists with face square to target just as ball released like a bullet from the face because of the wrists locking. The clue for that is in how he released the extension in his right wrist as he waggled down and lifted his back foot at the same time in a very controlled way to keep allow the hips and ands to resume moving. He copied that wrist action from Harry Frankenberg.
30 years ago when I was 10 my dad made me read Power Golf by Ben Hogan and from there he began my tutelage in golf. I would say my swing is very Hogan-esque and I too fight a hook or over draw in my game when not playing well. After seeing this video I am thinking the adduction component or lack there of is the difference between great golf for me and a poor round. I feel if I remember to think about the adduction component of this video I think it will improve my weight shift and body rotation and keep me from getting stuck or from being too far inside.
You promote dragging the handle through impact. Like a check swing in baseball. Hogan threw (released) the the club head past the handle. Powerful effortless release by using a Right Inward Throw release. Love all your vids Eric.
Hey, Robert! Thank you for your feedback and opinion. I do not promote dragging the handle nor do I promote a throw. Each phrase is too simplistic to cover what's really going on in detail (as you likely know) I simply promote what good players do and checkpoints to hit. Here is more on this that should clear up any confusion: ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf Eric, in your May 2020 video with Kevin Roman, you cover the throw release verses twist release. Hey This is what Hogan did after he “found” the cause of his severe hooks. Sergio and Rory do it too!
At the top of Hogan’s downswing his trail elbow and trail forearm; hands and wrists were all passive and yet highly reactive as you broke it down except in order to achieve this at the start of Hogan downswing he knew to simply push his radius humerus bone against his trail rip gage and to continues pushing with his trail humerus bone all the way to the finish of his swing. Every great player does exactly this This works for him and everyone who can realize for themselves that the trail shoulder blades is the true axis of a great golf swing and that the trail humerus bone ( upper arm) is the primary lever/spoke that can actually turn our entire body back and forth in our golf swing. It was Hogan’s secret and believe me now that I know it; at 73 my ball striking accuracy has improved 100 percent. Cheers
Trailing elbow differently the key to hitting good shots. As discussed I do have a small fade so the club face is open a smidge. Timing getting the club face square I’m working on. Your the best golf instructor on RUclips. I look forward to hopefully meeting you someday. Stay safe, and enjoy the holidays.
Good morning Eric and Mary another fabulous video you are truly a gift to all us golfers I want to wish you and Mary Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year
Only if I knew these many proper positions to be in while hitting a golf ball years ago. No broken clubs or lost sanity. LOL. Great basic visuals and instruction once again. Glad I found your channel.
Thanks again- great lesson & information about the golf swing - wonderful explanation and communication I’m telling your RUclips fans this guy is a great golf instructor - enjoy the day to all - keith
Gold dust as always Eric, felt something on the range today...right elbow leading the wrist on the start down and you just gave it clarity so thanks for that. Watching Morikawa gave me that feel!
Being a puller of 5 footers I guess the same set-up rule / feeling applies? Just hit a few and fell in the high side…which never happens!! What a game 😁!
Wow, awesome video. Have noticed that keeping trail elbow in really helps iron hits. Emphasis here on Hogan moves, wrist-elbow, even better. Great video Eric
@@CogornoGolf something to bear in mind is that the pec major muscle which is a powerful shoulder adductor also internally rotates the shoulder so exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff which externally rotate the shoulder might be useful especially for us older golfers who tend to lose external rotation as we "mature"
Eric this video is killer. It makes so much sense especially the tip on the start of the downswing. I can see how if the wrist gets ahead the over the top swing rears its ugly head. I always thought it was me moving my shoulder across to early. I'm going to check my videos to see if indeed it's my wrist. Thank you for this analysis.
it was good to hear you add "qualifiers" to this advice .. this kind of rotation advice works best for people with long(er) arms. someone like me, with t-rex arms can't use this approach because I would never get the clubhead down to the ball.
Great video and explanation, I noted one feel that might help is that I felt as though I was coming down and through the ball with right palm facing up, didn't actually happen that way but that feel helps.
Similar for me but I feel the palm facing out due to the wrist bend. It faces out as long as possible. One thing I’ve noticed is if the head stays behind the ball that last second pronation happens naturally.
Thanks Eric, loved the video, the info was VERY helpful. Here's something that really helped me regards to "feel" at the start of my downswing, I try to feel as if my right elbow is pulled straight down towards the ground. I hope this helps others to obtain the "feel," again thanks, keep up the great work..
Great video again Eric. I tried this, just focusing on keeping my R/elbow in front of my R/hip throughout. It felt a bit awkward at the start of the round but surprisingly quickly began to feel 'normal'. However, the difference in ball-striking was phenomenal, being both straight and long and feeling so solid. I was making 500yd par fives in two, (Never done that before) and adding at least 2 club lengths to my irons. Then like one of the comments below, for some strange reason I stopped doing it. Need to get back to it, pronto.
Another good visual. Especially how low/horizontal the club looks coming into impact. It seems passive means almost a lack of a release w/ the wrists. Just a-little forearm rotation to square?
I’m watching the video two years later and feel that I need to go to the driving range and implement external rotation of my right elbow and having my right hand come across my chest as you suggest. At 73 years old I can still find myself 100-120 yards from the green for my second shot on par 4’s. Some fellows are set in their ways and will not consider anything different. They say my ideas are too complicated.
Thanks Eric! That helps One question though Hogan was big on keeping his elbow tucked in throughout the backswing (literally down and I’m not just pointed down) In the modern swing teaching I see a lot less of this and more, for lack of a better term, manipulation of the elbow to get to a good impact position What are your thoughts on Hogan keeping that elbow in and tucked (if you agree that’s what he did with most clubs) 🙏!
Yeah both can work----Jack had flying elbow and shoulder much more internally rotated. Hogan had it external both were great... What matters most is where it is in transition.....if someone has flying right arm they MUST learn to get it back in front....not easy for most thoughts on it here: ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html&pp=ygUoRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybSBpbnRlcm5hbCBleHRlcm5hbA%3D%3D ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybS9zaG91bGRlciB0b3Agb2YgYmFja3N3aW5n
Thanks for this advice, I have subbed and liked, I am going to work on this and hopefully it will eliminate my slice. I also swing too fast I think. I always have the feeling I have to kill it. Like hit a homer.
Eric great vid, please be clear on one thing that I'm unsure of...does the right arm stay glued to the side throughout the entire swing? It looks like Hogan does but then when you explained about the 90 degree stuff the arm was away from the body. Thanks!
If you look carefully at Hogan at the top of his back swing he had little if any arm lift (abduction). This took away any aspect of timing reconnecting the upper arm back to his rib cage (adduction)... the magic move... much easier this way for most golfers.
Hey Robert! If there was ZERO lift....the arms would be much too low for most players. Well below shoulder plane. 3D measurements and GEARS shows this clearly there is lots of lift (shoulder flexion)....but you are correct hogan had very little (not none) but very little.
Always appreciated the great content and your style of presentation Eric,thankyou for doing it for us.The right arm across the chest is definitely a light bulb moment for me,feels great and will stop my flipping tendencies 👍
Thanks..watched your video on fixing shanks and I’m sure I’m not coming in at the right angle on downswing...set up box an hour ago and kept hitting it..will try keeping hands closer to body tomorrow 👍
Thanks for the box drill it has helped and your video to fix shanks by swinging to the left has changed my game completely 😀👍...Still a bit of trouble taking the right arm past the right pec though
I think that the reason I’m uneasy with the transition from the top of the backswing to the beginning of the downswing, is that I’m not securing the external rotation of my right elbow. Learning your ideas will take pressure of my lower back.
Hi Eric, great video, just two things, 1) Can you relay learn just by watching videos ? or is it better to have person coaching? next there are talks how important it is to have low hands in transition and through impact. I haven't seen a video of yours explaining your theory. Can you please advice , thanks your a one of best coaches on line .
Thanks, Marcus! 1. Online coaching or in person coaching both great. Hiring a good coach and not going at it on your own a good idea! 2. Lots to talk about in terms of "low hands"....there is a lot of that within the 800 videos we have....maybe more to come. All the best
i certainly agree that the v should point more up to the shoulder; but that in itself can present problems. often players can then pull the club back with the right hand, causing the elbow to pop out. so, the waggle is key to establishing control with the left hand; but, when a player waggles the club correctly the right arm will stay passive until the the left wrist has fully cocked. this folds the right arm. i do agree that the left side of the right forearm should lead, in the downswing; but, i couldn't disagree more about the idea of sliding the arm across the chest. the chest won't be in its address position at impact, anyway; but when a player slides the right arm across, the clubface will be open. the left hand releases the club by pressing against the left side of the shaft and the right hand has to go with it.
what works for me really well is to have the right elbow "tucked in " and try and feel like you have the elbow that way the whole swing "inwards" not outwards if the makes any sense
Hey Eric. Great video. One question: does adduction only occur once I'm in the delivery position? Or does it start from the top? Looking for clarity as a lot of instructors key in on maintaining width for more power, but I'm not sure when to start letting it go.
Much easier to master this move if you have your right arm glued to your chest at the top of the backswing. A compact swing allows this to happen with more consistency without much or any arm lift at the top of the backswing.
Eric, it seems Jim Hardy is saying the opposite for a one planner like Hogan. He wants right elbow to stay up and behind thru impact, not in front. Can you elaborate please.
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Interestingly Trevino’s very different looking swing compared to Hogan’s naturally does this trailing elbow and wrist position almost effortlessly. Trevino’s swing is also one of the few swings Hogan respected and commented on positively.
What is the origin of the phrase "Magic Move"? The first time I remember seeing this exact move described as the "magic move" was in Harvey Penick's Little Red Book. Did Hogan use the term?
You always talk about opposite reactions. When I start with my trail arm externally rotated like that I feel like I have a tendency to go more internal and it's difficult to hold it externally throughout the swing. Do you see any issue with going more internal, to get back to external? Not as much as someone like Wolff, but some. Thoughts?
Hey Matt! Good points/questions 1. I do NOT think setting up more external at setup makes it easier/harder/more likely to go back internal.....I hear ya...but I wouldn't say thats normal. 2. Perfectly cool to go back internal so long as you get back external coming down....thats the key...transition and downswing Backswing only matters so much as it affects or makes easier or harder the downswing pieces ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html
Just watched you with Mike Malaska using Mike's Red demo club - seems to me or I am a bit confused as he makes it a point to demo the right wrist release as like throwing ball at impact and in this video different but probably me trying to see something not there - hope you see what I mean as Mike says to you, wrist rotation a taboo, seems unclear especially when watching your demo. Thanks great job as usual.
Thanks for the feedback Steve! Here should be more to clear things up: ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/8Ieul7YJK44/видео.html
i think this movement is key in any good swing but it is super important to add rotation through impact otherwise you will get this movement only in transition but lose it at impact, so rotation rotation rotation!
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Eric best tip ever. Over 50years ago I was given the very same instruction by my golf coach. At impact Hogan said he felt he could hit the ball flush like he had 2 right hands. I was hitting the ball so flush that I felt I could actually hit the call off concrete. I played my best golf and my coach told me to get Hogan’s book on the 5 Fundamentals. Over the years I gotten away from the move you just showed me. I can’t wait to get out and do this. Thanx So Much
Beautiful explanation tks i think i finally get it been so afraid to hit the ball what everyone says is a no no my arms are verbal passive especially the right hand and arm no no hitting putting pressure on the back of the ball with right arm and hand going across the chest has escaped me for a lifetime even though i read Hogans book years ago YOUR explanation of how he created so much power especially through the hitting area oops did i say hitting bad word right is brilliant as usual tks so much for your insightful priceless coaching
Great stuff. Ben Hogan has been my golf idol and inspiration for over 60 years now. I started teaching myself golf from his book, "The Modern Fundamentals of Golf", which is still as true and clear as it was then. Thanks.
Love it! Thanks, Piers!
Eric, Best tip ever. Hogan said in his book 5 Fundamentals at impact he felt like he had 2 right hands. Over 50 years ago my golf coach showed me exactly what you just showed. I played my best golf then actually feeling like I could hit my irons flush off of concrete. Over the years I lost that feeling and have been searching to get it back. He told me the only reference I should refer to is Hogan’s 5 Fundamentals and not to read any other magazines or books on golf instruction since it could lead to paralysis by analysis. You have done it Thanx so much. Can’t wait to get out to the range.
Love it, John! Appreciate the kind words and support my friend
Elbow over the wrist bone.....a key phrase.
The bowing of the wrist helps drive that elbow to that position....
Hogan did the opposite in the backswing to that which he wanted on the downswing...
Cupped wrist going back....bowed wrist coming down
Internal elbow rotation going back...external rotated going into downswing...
Doing this gives the moves more power as they reverse themselves into the downswing.
Very Good Video!
Ballard talked of this. Ballard referred to Hogan pointing his trail elbow away on the backswing, then driving it in on the downswing.
The videos you choose are from Hogan in his 50s. His 1953 swings are his best IMO.
The arm working across the chest is a new one to me.. SO the arms gain speed on the chest?
Again, great video, thanks.
Thanks man!
One of the simplest videos I’ve seen in a while. Good job
Thanks, Jorge!
Will try that - arms across pec is new to me.
The sound of your strikes wow- music to my ears. Thanks eric - best coach ever in the history of golf.
Appreciate it my friend!
As someone who has limited external shoulder rotation this drill has helped me get a more shallow downswing. Been lucky to try this on the course and the results are amazing. A massive thank you from me.
Excellent! Glad to hear that Damion!
Great stuff, Eric, as usual. I was watching a Greg McHatton video and he was relaying a story told by Jim Waldron who asked Tom Weisskopf what was his greatest lesson ever. Weisskopf said Mr. Hogan told him to superglue the right arm (from just above the elbow to the arm pit) to the right side of his body as he was delivering the club into the ball. That’s the adduction concept you are referencing here in your video (he also said to do the same thing with the left arm!). That feeling of tightness or connection adds to the stability of the club working through the hitting area as the strike is delivered more with the pivot than with the arms and hands. Great explanation of the external rotation and the lining up of the pit of the elbow with the wrist bone. Looking forward to future videos on Mr. Hogan’s magic moves. Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate the kind words my friend! Fun swing and topic to study!
Great tip, and fantastic explanation and demonstration. Bravo! About 6-7 years ago I developed a “feel” in my swing that I would lean with the right elbow, and it worked fantastic. Perhaps I never should have gotten away from it.
Thank you!
I have been struggling to hit anything under an 8 iron, dang this tip just took me to another level. Last night at the range I was able to hit my 6 iron straight with loft I never had before; keeping my lead arm elbow tucked felt a little awkward at first but once I got the feeling my consistency improved so much. I just bought the Orange Whip too; so with the orange whip my tempo and back swing are a 3:1 ratio, and with the elbow trick it all came together to produce some amazing long iron shots. I noticed the elbow is almost attached to my side with the short irons and begins to travel a little bit away from the body with the longer irons. Amazing, Simply amazing. Thanks, Eric!!
Our pleasure, Jon!!
Eric, I am from Chile. I appreciate so much yours tip, especially this one " The right arm moves", I started playing golf just 2 years ago, and right now I have hdcp 15. Thanks for all your lessons. Sorry my english.
Appreciate that and thanks for tuning in!! :)
Hogan set up his right arm to fold as it did by how he gripped the club in the air with bent elbows then straightened the arms while lowering it. Using the Vardon grip correctly with the left thumb fitting into the groove created by holding the left thumb tight to the left index finger causes the ulna and radius bones to rotated around themselves putting them mid-way in their range of motion and twisting the arms as illustrated in Five Lessons with the illustration of the hands wringing the towel. With the club lowered he then pressed down with right arm against left thumb in the grip pulling all the slackness and “give” out of his arms.
That’s how he achieved that tight V connection between upper arms and rib cage that countless clueless golfer try to create by trying to pull arms in against ribs with gloves or towels in their sweat armpits. Getting the right arm to stay tucked in during the backswing up to the top is just a matter of letting the club face open with wrist action in the takeaway because the swing plane going up to the top is influenced by the direction the toe of the club head is pointing. If pointing forward toward the target line the path up will be steep like Nicklaus whose preferred shot is a high fade. To the the very tight inside path Hogan let the toe point backwards which steered it on a much lower path preventing his right arm from separating.
The moving club generates so much force, so quickly it becomes difficult to steer with the hands after the first 18 inches or so why pre-torquing the arms and hands with the techniques I mentioned is critical for a consistent swing. So is never grounding the club. Letting the club hang freely and swing in towards body as you lean over at the hips brings the wedges and irons into balance like a pendulum and the counter weight of the club head mass hanging out at the ball is what allowed Hogan to sit down backwards balanced on his heels at address to anticipate being pulled forward by the club force before impact.
All Hogan’s secrets are seen in plain sight in videos of his swing including the waggle move which at address was actually a rehearsal of how he “hammered” down at the ball maxing out ulnar deviation and locking wrists with face square to target just as ball released like a bullet from the face because of the wrists locking. The clue for that is in how he released the extension in his right wrist as he waggled down and lifted his back foot at the same time in a very controlled way to keep allow the hips and ands to resume moving. He copied that wrist action from Harry Frankenberg.
Thanks for the feedback!
This video is one of your best. Tell Mary understand and not to be to concerned about the sound problem - the video was great.
Thanks, Dennis!
Thank you, Dennis!
Everything you demonstrated with the flying elbow has been exactly what I have been struggling with. Thanks for helping visualize.
You got it, Frankie!
Excellent! This is the piece I have been overlooking forever. Thank you!
Thanks, Joe! You got it!
Great tip and vid! This move results in lag coming down to the ball and shaft lean at impact. It also virtually eliminates fat shots. Thanks!
Thanks, Josh! My pleasure my friend!
Brilliant video Eric. The best explanation of these concepts I have ever seen.
Appreciate it, Ryan!
Agreed.
30 years ago when I was 10 my dad made me read Power Golf by Ben Hogan and from there he began my tutelage in golf. I would say my swing is very Hogan-esque and I too fight a hook or over draw in my game when not playing well. After seeing this video I am thinking the adduction component or lack there of is the difference between great golf for me and a poor round. I feel if I remember to think about the adduction component of this video I think it will improve my weight shift and body rotation and keep me from getting stuck or from being too far inside.
Yessir
you know how i love old school golf Eric. no you're talkin dirty to me! lol
looking forward to the rest of these.
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You promote dragging the handle through impact. Like a check swing in baseball. Hogan threw (released) the the club head past the handle. Powerful effortless release by using a Right Inward Throw release. Love all your vids Eric.
Hey, Robert!
Thank you for your feedback and opinion.
I do not promote dragging the handle nor do I promote a throw.
Each phrase is too simplistic to cover what's really going on in detail (as you likely know)
I simply promote what good players do and checkpoints to hit.
Here is more on this that should clear up any confusion: ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf Eric, in your May 2020 video with Kevin Roman, you cover the throw release verses twist release. Hey This is what Hogan did after he “found” the cause of his severe hooks. Sergio and Rory do it too!
At the top of Hogan’s downswing his trail elbow and trail forearm; hands and wrists were all passive and yet highly reactive as you broke it down except in order to achieve this at the start of Hogan downswing he knew to simply push his radius humerus bone against his trail rip gage and to continues pushing with his trail humerus bone all the way to the finish of his swing. Every great player does exactly this
This works for him and everyone who can realize for themselves that the trail shoulder blades is the true axis of a great golf swing and that the trail humerus bone ( upper arm) is the primary lever/spoke that can actually turn our entire body back and forth in our golf swing. It was Hogan’s secret and believe me now that I know it; at 73 my ball striking accuracy has improved 100 percent. Cheers
Love it
@@CogornoGolf Hope you teach it. But if you do you won’t have repeat customers. Ha ha❤️😃⛳️👍😂
Trailing elbow differently the key to hitting good shots. As discussed I do have a small fade so the club face is open a smidge. Timing getting the club face square I’m working on. Your the best golf instructor on RUclips. I look forward to hopefully meeting you someday. Stay safe, and enjoy the holidays.
Appreciate the kind words, John!
If you are looking for the heart of the golf swing this video demonstrates it.
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Good morning Eric and Mary another fabulous video you are truly a gift to all us golfers I want to wish you and Mary Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year
Thanks, Jim! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Thank you Jim! - for your constant viewership and unwavering support. Appreciate you and Happy Holidays!!
Only if I knew these many proper positions to be in while hitting a golf ball years ago. No broken clubs or lost sanity. LOL. Great basic visuals and instruction once again. Glad I found your channel.
:) Thanks for being with us, Tim!
I know Ive probably said this before but I think that’s your best video ever! This move makes everything else good happen in my opinion.
:) Appreciate it my friend!
Thanks again- great lesson & information about the golf swing - wonderful explanation and communication I’m telling your RUclips fans this guy is a great golf instructor - enjoy the day to all - keith
Appreciate it Keith!!
As someone who has a strong grip and struggles with a hook, this is great advice to help keep the clubface from closing too much.
Yes!
This is great. I have incorporated it into my golf swing.
Hope it has served you well! Thanks for watching the channel!
It's a shame about the audio because this is one of the BEST videos about the trailing arm I've ever seen. Nice job.
Thanks, Mike!
Gold dust as always Eric, felt something on the range today...right elbow leading the wrist on the start down and you just gave it clarity so thanks for that. Watching Morikawa gave me that feel!
Elbow leading the wrist....yessir!
Being a puller of 5 footers I guess the same set-up rule / feeling applies? Just hit a few and fell in the high side…which never happens!! What a game 😁!
yes
Wow, awesome video. Have noticed that keeping trail elbow in really helps iron hits. Emphasis here on Hogan moves, wrist-elbow, even better. Great video Eric
thanks, Robert!
@@CogornoGolf something to bear in mind is that the pec major muscle which is a powerful shoulder adductor also internally rotates the shoulder so exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff which externally rotate the shoulder might be useful especially for us older golfers who tend to lose external rotation as we "mature"
Eric this video is killer. It makes so much sense especially the tip on the start of the downswing. I can see how if the wrist gets ahead the over the top swing rears its ugly head. I always thought it was me moving my shoulder across to early. I'm going to check my videos to see if indeed it's my wrist. Thank you for this analysis.
hope it helps my friend!
brilliant work, thanks!
Thanks!
Great model for us amateur swings! Mr. Hogan to me had the best swing ever!
Yessir!
it was good to hear you add "qualifiers" to this advice .. this kind of rotation advice works best for people with long(er) arms. someone like me, with t-rex arms can't use this approach because I would never get the clubhead down to the ball.
Thanks, Georgia!
Excellent explanation...thanks Eric
Appreciate it! Our pleasure!
That was a great detailed explanation...Thank you!!!
Appreciate it, Rich!
Great video and explanation, I noted one feel that might help is that I felt as though I was coming down and through the ball with right palm facing up, didn't actually happen that way but that feel helps.
Similar for me but I feel the palm facing out due to the wrist bend. It faces out as long as possible. One thing I’ve noticed is if the head stays behind the ball that last second pronation happens naturally.
Yessir
Like a karate chop through the ball
I am glad you covered this. Good inside info.
Appreciate it
Great explanation provided here. Thanks!
Thanks, hank!
Thanks for the insightful video.
When and where do you start the trail forearm rotation during the downswing in order to square the club face?
Check this out for more details on that: ruclips.net/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/видео.html
If that doesn't answer LMK and we can discuss more
Such a great video. This relates to the RIT release method for 1 plane swingers.
Thank you!
Yessir
Great lesson Eric thank you!
Thanks, Seve!
Thanks Eric, loved the video, the info was VERY helpful. Here's something that really helped me regards to "feel" at the start of my downswing, I try to feel as if my right elbow is pulled straight down towards the ground. I hope this helps others to obtain the "feel," again thanks, keep up the great work..
Thanks-love it!
Great video again Eric. I tried this, just focusing on keeping my R/elbow in front of my R/hip throughout. It felt a bit awkward at the start of the round but surprisingly quickly began to feel 'normal'. However, the difference in ball-striking was phenomenal, being both straight and long and feeling so solid. I was making 500yd par fives in two, (Never done that before) and adding at least 2 club lengths to my irons. Then like one of the comments below, for some strange reason I stopped doing it. Need to get back to it, pronto.
Love it! Nice to see immediate gains!
Great instruction,Thanks
Thanks Robert!
Another good visual.
Especially how low/horizontal the club looks coming into impact.
It seems passive means almost a lack of a release w/ the wrists. Just a-little forearm rotation to square?
Hey Chad!
While of course thats overly simplistic thats an OK way to look at it
This actual swing saved Matt kuchar's career great video of Eric
:)
I’m watching the video two years later and feel that I need to go to the driving range and implement external rotation of my right elbow and having my right hand come across my chest as you suggest. At 73 years old I can still find myself 100-120 yards from the green for my second shot on par 4’s. Some fellows are set in their ways and will not consider anything different. They say my ideas are too complicated.
Thanks Eric! That helps
One question though
Hogan was big on keeping his elbow tucked in throughout the backswing (literally down and I’m not just pointed down)
In the modern swing teaching I see a lot less of this and more, for lack of a better term, manipulation of the elbow to get to a good impact position
What are your thoughts on Hogan keeping that elbow in and tucked (if you agree that’s what he did with most clubs)
🙏!
Yeah both can work----Jack had flying elbow and shoulder much more internally rotated.
Hogan had it external
both were great...
What matters most is where it is in transition.....if someone has flying right arm they MUST learn to get it back in front....not easy for most
thoughts on it here:
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ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybS9zaG91bGRlciB0b3Agb2YgYmFja3N3aW5n
Thanks for this advice, I have subbed and liked, I am going to work on this and hopefully it will eliminate my slice. I also swing too fast I think. I always have the feeling I have to kill it. Like hit a homer.
Hope it serves you well my friend!
Great video! Thank you
Our pleasure! Thanks!
Eric great vid, please be clear on one thing that I'm unsure of...does the right arm stay glued to the side throughout the entire swing? It looks like Hogan does but then when you explained about the 90 degree stuff the arm was away from the body. Thanks!
Hey Bill!
No it does not stay glued.
There should be some lift (abduction) during backswing (bicep away from ribcage) as well as shoulder flexion
If you look carefully at Hogan at the top of his back swing he had little if any arm lift (abduction). This took away any aspect of timing reconnecting the upper arm back to his rib cage (adduction)... the magic move... much easier this way for most golfers.
Hey Robert! If there was ZERO lift....the arms would be much too low for most players. Well below shoulder plane. 3D measurements and GEARS shows this clearly there is lots of lift (shoulder flexion)....but you are correct hogan had very little (not none) but very little.
Always appreciated the great content and your style of presentation Eric,thankyou for doing it for us.The right arm across the chest is definitely a light bulb moment for me,feels great and will stop my flipping tendencies 👍
Appreciate it! Our pleasure!
great video, so at what point do you add in the right forearm pronation to square the club?
Here ya go ....I go over that in detail here: ruclips.net/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf thanks, I definitely will try that on the range
Thank you Eric for helping me understand and appreciate the all time great 👍
Our pleasure Vikram!👊
Tried this today for first time but sending the ball to the right all the time
Hey Ainen! More trail wrist extension or stronger grip likely needed without seeing your swing to say for sure
Thanks..watched your video on fixing shanks and I’m sure I’m not coming in at the right angle on downswing...set up box an hour ago and kept hitting it..will try keeping hands closer to body tomorrow 👍
Box drill is a really good on to keep things neutral with your club path. No risk there
Thanks for the box drill it has helped and your video to fix shanks by swinging to the left has changed my game completely 😀👍...Still a bit of trouble taking the right arm past the right pec though
This is my favorite practice tip. You've got a sub from me bro!
Appreciate your support! Hope this one helps your game!
love this video. love external rotation. viktor hovland is another player who does this well.
Thanks, Mark! Yes he does....quite well...I love his swing!
ruclips.net/video/-Rm-3rbW_Y0/видео.html
A real gem of a tip
Thanks Jim!
I think that the reason I’m uneasy with the transition from the top of the backswing to the beginning of the downswing, is that I’m not securing the external rotation of my right elbow. Learning your ideas will take pressure of my lower back.
Could be Frank!!
Great video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks Eric!!🔥
Appreciate it! My pleasure
Ben Hogan was the man
Yessir!
Fantastic many thanks
Thanks, Jeff! Our pleasure!
Very interesting. But what about your left elbow at setup, where does it point? I struggle to see more precisely. Thanks!!!
More on that coming up!
It depends on your grip...
@@CogornoGolf aha, of course it does. Thanks!!
Hi Eric, great video, just two things, 1) Can you relay learn just by watching videos ? or is it better to have person coaching? next there are talks how important it is to have low hands in transition and through impact. I haven't seen a video of yours explaining your theory. Can you please advice , thanks your a one of best coaches on line .
Thanks, Marcus!
1. Online coaching or in person coaching both great. Hiring a good coach and not going at it on your own a good idea!
2. Lots to talk about in terms of "low hands"....there is a lot of that within the 800 videos we have....maybe more to come.
All the best
i certainly agree that the v should point more up to the shoulder; but that in itself can present problems. often players can then pull the club back with the right hand, causing the elbow to pop out. so, the waggle is key to establishing control with the left hand; but, when a player waggles the club correctly the right arm will stay passive until the the left wrist has fully cocked. this folds the right arm. i do agree that the left side of the right forearm should lead, in the downswing; but, i couldn't disagree more about the idea of sliding the arm across the chest. the chest won't be in its address position at impact, anyway; but when a player slides the right arm across, the clubface will be open. the left hand releases the club by pressing against the left side of the shaft and the right hand has to go with it.
thanks for feedback!
Great stuff, Eric
Thanks, Steven!
what works for me really well is to have the right elbow "tucked in " and try and feel like you have the elbow that way the whole swing "inwards" not outwards
if the makes any sense
Yessir
Hey Eric. Great video. One question: does adduction only occur once I'm in the delivery position? Or does it start from the top? Looking for clarity as a lot of instructors key in on maintaining width for more power, but I'm not sure when to start letting it go.
It starts from the top
Much easier to master this move if you have your right arm glued to your chest at the top of the backswing. A compact swing allows this to happen with more consistency without much or any arm lift at the top of the backswing.
Yep thats one good option!
Thanks for this video👍🏻
you got it my friend
Outstanding!
Thanks, William!
thanks, this is excellent!
Thanks, Steven!
Eric, I’ve always struggled with this aspect of my swing. I cannot wait to work on this at my next range session. Great video!!!
Thanks, Martin! Hope it helps!
So. This trail arm movement is also responsible for shallowing the shaft as well?
Its PART of it.
External rotation of trail arm/shoulder and internal rotation of lead arm/shoulder will shallow shaft.
Eric, it seems Jim Hardy is saying the opposite for a one planner like Hogan. He wants right elbow to stay up and behind thru impact, not in front. Can you elaborate please.
Hey James!
Here is some info on that:
ruclips.net/video/MwFGvE5-fHk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/kvMijVAf9FI/видео.html
Do the right arm hv to make internal rotation at some point during the forward swing to release and hit the ball?
Yes...but past impact
ruclips.net/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/видео.html
I tried many ways to get shaft lean. None worked except this. Thank you Eric.
another gem !!
Thank you!
How much angel should I maintain between my forearm and upper arm during this move?
Here are the details:
ruclips.net/video/fDkoZCgSItE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/1rXgZHGyFBQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ZWOR8CiNWtw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/видео.html
Do you believe Hogan was pulling the club to start the downswing or simply a turn initiated by the lower body ?
Bit of both
Great video
Thanks, Steve!
Superb!
Thanks, Martin!
Brilliant!
Thanks, William!
Look at Mr. Hogan's weight shift too. Incredible.
He did OK :)
Interestingly Trevino’s very different looking swing compared to Hogan’s naturally does this trailing elbow and wrist position almost effortlessly. Trevino’s swing is also one of the few swings Hogan respected and commented on positively.
Yep~
Ben Hogan was the best. Anyone else notice how nice those guys dressed to play golf back then?
Yessir
What is the origin of the phrase "Magic Move"? The first time I remember seeing this exact move described as the "magic move" was in Harvey Penick's Little Red Book. Did Hogan use the term?
Hey Robert!
Haha...I'm not sure! I jut know it' a term on youtube that tends to get people to watch so we throw it in from time to time :)
Great Great Great......thanks
Thanks Jim!
AMAZING!!
Thanks, Peter!
You always talk about opposite reactions. When I start with my trail arm externally rotated like that I feel like I have a tendency to go more internal and it's difficult to hold it externally throughout the swing. Do you see any issue with going more internal, to get back to external? Not as much as someone like Wolff, but some. Thoughts?
Hey Matt!
Good points/questions
1. I do NOT think setting up more external at setup makes it easier/harder/more likely to go back internal.....I hear ya...but I wouldn't say thats normal.
2. Perfectly cool to go back internal so long as you get back external coming down....thats the key...transition and downswing
Backswing only matters so much as it affects or makes easier or harder the downswing pieces
ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html
Just watched you with Mike Malaska using Mike's Red demo club - seems to me or I am a bit confused as he makes it a point to demo the right wrist release as like throwing ball at impact and in this video different but probably me trying to see something not there - hope you see what I mean as Mike says to you, wrist rotation a taboo, seems unclear especially when watching your demo. Thanks great job as usual.
Thanks for the feedback Steve!
Here should be more to clear things up:
ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/8Ieul7YJK44/видео.html
i think this movement is key in any good swing but it is super important to add rotation through impact otherwise you will get this movement only in transition but lose it at impact, so rotation rotation rotation!
Yessir
Intriguing
Have to try that elbow accross the chest
Yessir
The matter of this is how to backswing like hogan did? So the coming down will be flow well, like he did.
Perhaps...but perfect backswing doesn't guarantee perfect downswing...
@@CogornoGolf can you do vdo on how did hogan do his back swing? This is interested me. It seems to be ease but in fact may be hard to do.
Yep
Great natural instincts.
Absolutely!
I am sh***ing 'em when I try to pitch the right elbow.
Any suggestions?
Would need to see on video....too many variables unfortunately