Over the past ten years the Titan has competed with three generations of the Silverado, and two generations of the F-150, and it still is a worthy competitor. Nissan has made a very good truck.
Exactly. Both the Armada and Titan were extremely advanced for their time, it's just Nissan hasn't bothered upgrading them until 2016. The new XD looks great.
Classified Info yes especially the Nissan Armada . I have 2013 Nissan Armada platinum. Took it from nyc to Canada in harsh winter -7 degree Fahrenheit. When we was heading back for nyc we end up in a harsh blizzard in 1ft snow . The armada didn’t back down we made back all the way to nyc home safe it was pitch dark
Interesting to see all the import truck haters out there....The Nissan Titan, introduced in 2004, and with no major revisions to the truck since (it was class-leading at the time and introduced many innovative features as well), is still competative with the latest and greatest from the "Big 3", as evidenced by this test. Sure its due for an update, which will happen in 2015. I bet that they build a new Titan that will dispatch the domestic trucks with ease, and let them play catch-up for another 10 years. The Ford's brakes were at least 100 degrees hotter than the Nissan's, even WITH an integrated trailer brake control. Point: Nissan. The Ford, even with it's EcoBoost technology (let's see how reliable it is as the miles rack up) that gives it an advantage at this altitude and a 6-speed transmission, only managed to pull 0.1 MPG better up this grade (2.9 vs. 2.8)? The 5.6L Endurance engine has proven to be bulletproof, and anyone towing with an EcoBoost is not going to get significantly better MPG, at least not enough to warrant the increased premium cost of the engine initially, nor the increased maintenance and repair costs that will inevitably turn up. Of course, if you aren't planning on keeping the truck for 250,000 miles and trading it in as the warranty runs out, I guess that won't matter. Other than the downtime.... The GM, with a larger, 10-year newer 6.2L engine SHOULD do better than the 5.6L in the Titan, so that was expected. Again, 6 speed transmission gives it an edge. When the Titan came out in '04, the Ford and GM offerings had 4 speed autos in them, so like I said, Nissan led the way (technically, the RAM 1500 was also available with an optional 5 speed auto, so I'll give credit where credit is due). The 2007 Tundra was first to market with a 6 speed auto in a half-ton. Let's see what debuts on the new version of the Titan, I'm sure it will impress. Hopefully, TFL Trucks will do a comparo at that time and re-do this test with the latest models from each manufacturer, and then we'll see where the numbers are. For the record, I own a 2005 Titan 4x4, with 258,000 (and counting) miles on it. I tow every summer with it, and the engine and transmission are all original with no repairs done, only normal maintenance. I drive it every day (obviously, with 258k on it). It has been, and will continue to be, rock solid. Go drive any domestic truck with 258k on it and then come talk smack about which truck is a POS.....
Exactly. Both the Armada and Titan were extremely advanced for their time, it's just Nissan hasn't bothered upgrading them until 2016. The new XD looks great.
Hey guys. I have a 2011 pro 4x crew cab with lift kit and 35 MTs. It also has Airiad Mxp cai and Bully dog tune. Even family members drive it and are very impressed how a 7 year old 68k miles truck has so much power and speed and handles the moderate high desert terrain with no problems. In December 2010 I paid 28.4k for it new. In 7 years it's had 1 bad battery 1 bad rear window regulator 1 cracked exhaust header. Those 3 were replace under warranty. I am the only one in my family who will off-road my truck because other members all paid north of the high 50k for their trucks and are afraid to break them. I regularly maintain this Titan and plan on keeping it until the engine or trans falls out which should be at minimum another 120k miles.
I have dodges, gmcs, and fords. Now I have a tundra, and think its the best ive owned in my life. The titan is a very strong truck, and has been a great contender since it started in 04. I just like the Japanese build quality better, they are smooth and quiet even after putting 200k+ miles. The titan 5.6 had more torque than the hemi and every other engine its size until recently, its been a beast for 11 yrs. Go Nissan and Toyota.
+David Cavalari So based on that logic, Chrysler is what Italian or British lol? Nissan is a publicly traded corporation keeping hard working Americans in jobs building Titans without being bailed out by the US Taxpayer or some crap Italian automaker. Sorry.
How many Ram trucks do you see in Japan? Not really fair to our country is it? Yet you dumbasses keep buying foreign shit and killing our American companies. And Chrysler even moved their Ram truck assembly plant from Mexico back to the United States. Move to Japan if you like their trucks better.
I’ve had trucks all of my adult life, mostly from the big 3. I bought a 2021 Nissan Titan Pro4X in 2020 and absolutely love this truck! No issues at all, both off road or on.
How about a video of standard engines and standard towing?? FYI, Nissan is the only truck on the market with a STANDARD V8. Not to mention Nissan Titan is the ONLY TRUCK with Dana 44's. You know the company that makes axels for JEEPS. Also, Titans have the biggest drive shafts, and U joints. Titan's are also made in Mississippi. Chevy, GMC, Ford, Dodge, Toyota all have a standard V6. Whats the point of a V6 in a full size truck? F-150's are made here, Chevys are 50% mexican or Canadian made and half are built in Canada so the ones built in Canada are imports by definition. Dodges engine and trans are built in mexico. Dodge is the most foreign truck. Toyota trucks are made in the UAW and Toyota's UAW refuses to fire its workers when times are slow. In Fenton, MO where I live Chrysler closed a 1500 job plant, but Toyota's UAW makes the workers do landscaping and what not so they still get a paycheck. Sorry for the off topic on where trucks are made but its frustrating when people call Toyota and Nissan trucks foreign when they are made right here in America with 60% of the parts made here as well if not more. Ive been going to dealers all over Missouri and test driving trucks as well as looking the small sticker that tells where its made. Most American in order from research shows this: Ford, Nissan, Toyota are the most American. Then Chevy/GMC. Dodge is the 70% Mexican made. Well its obvious from my economic degree that when something is not made here or the parts are not made by Americans that receive a paycheck and buy goods and pay taxes then how does that help our economy. Again sorry about the off topic but people need to wake up and cant just judge a book by its cover. Go out and do research. Its not hard. Im not here to argue im here to talk about this. So if yall want to have a normal conversation then ill be more then happy. Nissan does have the highest standard towing.
WOW!!! THANKS GUYS, FOR ALL OF YOUR AMAZING, EXPERT WORK!!!! MUCH APPRECIATED!!!! FYI: I JUST BOUGHT A 2012 TITAN, AND I THINK THAT IT'LL BE AN AWESOME TRUCK FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!!!....
Really liking this Ike gauntlet 2. Wouldn't mind seeing Fords 5.0, 6.2, gm's 5.3 , ram hemi and ecodiesel and Toyota tundra with the same loads. Then Ike gauntlet 3 with 3/4 ton gas pulling same load. Finally Ike gauntlet 4 with 1 ton diesels pulling this same load and then maybe pulling 20k+
I like this truck, a lot. Being a 10 year old design I think it did extremely well. I like how the transmission is geared perfectly, it wasn't hunting one bit.
+WRB considering what a 10 year old ford or chevy was like I'd say they paved the way forward 10 years ago first spray on bed ,first 300+ hp engine in a 1/2 ton and soon the first diesel v8 in the 1/2 ton market.
Not bad for a truck designed in 2003 to compete with brand new 2014 designs. Some are on their second design in those 10 years. Here's a video idea. Take a 2008 Nissan Titan and put it against the Ford F150, Chevy 1500, Dodge 1500 of the same year and redo this test. The Titan VK56 5.6L V8 would destroy the Ford 5.4L V8, Chevy 5.3L V8 doesn't stand a chance, Dodge Hemi 5.7L V8 might hang with it. Of those trucks only Ford and Nissan had fully boxed frames. Nissan produced a very solid truck for the time. Even in 2008 the Nissan Titan tow ratings were the same or higher than those trucks.
My 2014 Pro-4x crew cab would have no issue climbing that hill with its CAI, Exhaust and 2°Timing advance. I have pulled nearly 9k with ease at less altitude.
Love the IKE tests guys. Maybe mentioning the GCW and GCWR for each would be useful info. Here I think the GCW (Titan) was 10,010 trailer + 700 occupants + 5259 (truck) = 15969# GCW
This test is more what I am looking to see. I pull a Travel Trailer with a very tall profile and it weighs about 7700 lbs. I am really interested to see what the Chevrolet/GMC 6.2 towing numbers look like and one of the comparisons I am making is between the Eco boost and the 6.2 Sierria. Thanks Guys
Y'all should tackle a pre year 2000 Ike gauntlet. Gas and Diese with under 150k gas miles and under 250k for the diesels. That would be a good throwback
I get a kick out of the Nissan hater comments. I live in Texas, where I think it's in the state constitution that you're required to own a truck because EVERYone seems to have one. Mine is a Titan (2005); brother's is a Ford (2016); father's is a Dodge (2017). Mine is the ONLY ONE to come standard with a V8. They had to upgrade theirs to get a V8 and mine still gets better mileage. Mine comes standard with the Dana 44 axel (I believe theirs are 35s), which means mine is way more appropriately configured for heavy-duty use. Mine came standard with extendable towing mirrors and I've towed a fully loaded toy-hauler/camper, all the gear in the bed, a wife, four kids, and two dogs in the cab and my Titan rolled along at highway speeds with no increase in brake, engine, or transmission temperature. Mine even came standard with a sprayed on bed liner that neither of theirs had available (although I think one of them listed that as an option). The big thing for me is the quality. My Titan is now 16-years old and she still fires up immediately, blows ZERO smoke, doesn't burn oil and has lost a grand total of 3hp at 167,000 miles. After all these years and miles I can still drive her and hear no creaks, squeaks, or rattles from anywhere. All the switches and buttons still work and aside from one starter motor and one alternator, the only time she's been in the shop is for normal maintenance. Compare that to my brother's and father's trucks, both of which have been in the shop for various reasons or another; both have already begun to creak and rattle; and neither have the same features as my old girl. People can fist pump the whole American brand thing all they want, but my Titan is more American made than Ford or GM and it's clearly holding up better. I don't think either of their trucks will last another 5 years, to say nothing about making it to sixteen years. And I won't even mention the time I had to pull the brother's Ford up a hill because it got itself stuck in the sandy slope.
My money is still on the Titan. A solid truck that has lasted through three generations of the other three "American" brands. Much more dependable and no bugs to worry about like you would in the Ford, Dodge, or Chevy.
My 13 Pro 4x is just turning 245,000kms and its the absolute best and most reliable vehicle ive ever owned. Sure its not perfect on gas but when I got it for 35k and todays trucks are over 45 or 50K or higher... I can buy a ton of gas for 45K!! this truck rides great. Easy to see out with few blind spots and everyone who has been it or driven it, really likes it a lot. As long as it doesn't cost me a ton of money to repair I will drive on and keep her waxed. She looks awesome in Galaxy Black and is Loaded. Love my Titan Pro4X and will be sad to see her go one day.oh wait. I had to put tie rod ends in and one ball joint and on third set of tires. Not bad.
I think that Cummins that passed you just proved once again why diesels are king up there. Presumably that 5th wheel was about 12-15k lbs? But the 10-yr old Titan did well. Looking forward to the new model with its own Cummins and I would assume it will also offer the direct-injected 5.6 V8 with 400 HP / 410 lb-ft with 7 or 8 speed auto.
interesting thing, the trucks sitting on the trailers at 3:47 are 5-ton FMTV trucks, rated for the same payload as the trailer that these pickups are towing.
Great video guys. I'd like to point out that I know you are saying put everything in automatic and see what happens but.... if 0-60 isn't done that way I don't think this should either. You guys should try to get the absolute best numbers in every truck. Afterall a truck owner would probably downshift manually when the load starts to feel heavy. Regardless its still a good data point and I appreciate you guys' videos.
Only issue I have here is that most 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks are only rated to tow 5000 lbs unless you have weight distribution hooked up. This would also help with the sag.
Good test and impressed to see the Nissan hold its own loaded like that. I agree that I hope to see you guys get ahold of a 5.0 F150 for a similar test.
Comment for Fast Lane. Each truck,each trailer and each trailer brake will have a different gain setting. The correct way to calibrate is to accelerate to approx 25 mph then only using the trailers brakes slow the truck. Continue to increase or decrease gain until the trailer slows the truck at a normal pace without locking up the tires on the trailer. Just FYI. This is probably why the brakes have gotten so hot in all these videos.
I don't feel that they intend to be bias. Everyone has their preferences. Me im a Ford guy. The only reason that is cause I've owned every brand of truck except a nissan or Toyota. I worked in the oil fields of Oklahoma and saw every other brand pull and work through mud and snow. My grand father was a ford man till the day he died. He had 40year old ford trucks out there still running better than newer Chevy or Dodge. My conclusion after all these experiences was that Ford makes the better workhorse. I am glad they stepped up their game in tech. Toyota would be my second choice. Dodge at a very tight third. Chevy then Nissan. I have lots of friends with Nissans all say their fuel eco just sucks. And for as old of a power train as it is,its power and capability is impressive. 10 years ago one of the better trucks. Today not so much. Well see if that changes with the new diesel engine. I don't think it will but maybe.
Austin Kendall Nice to see a fellow Oklahoman on here. What do you think about the new Dodges? I've been a Ford guy too but since working at David Stanley in Midwest City I've come to like Dodges too. But of course I'm not hauling at work and the hauling I do at home is of course with a ford lol
Well dodge has come a long way.used to have problem after problem. Now hardly any recalls or warranty issues. I know they work great in the trenches. But if u work that means u like to save money. Right now dodge only has the power. They haven't hit the right combo of power and economy. Ford has. I seriously in my king ranch 4x4 get 17 mpg in the city. 21 to 22 hwy. And people say I'm BSing I had took a pic of one of my empty tanks. And on my display it said 597mi. On that tank I was still 50 to E. 23mpg. Now that trip was mostly flat. But that's what I got. And my king ranch has 3.73 rear end and the eco boost engine. Now one of my buddies recently let me drive his 2013 Big Horn. loved it. Air ride suspension can u say sweet. Felt just as powerful as my truck but that mpg didn't get better than 13 city. Now if ur a truck guy like I am. Then u know that 4mpg on a 28 gallon or bigger (in my case 36 gallon) that's a huge difference. Over 100 mile range difference on the 28 gallon tank. Good news dodge patterned with Fiat and designed an ecodiesel. Low on HP but high on TQ. Now they estimated a 10000 lb tow rating when properly equiped and 20 mpg overall 25 hwy and 18 city when released. Great. But diesel in TN right now (that's where I live now.) Is $3.89 compared to $3.02 for gas. In closing I would say great product and its worth buying but I'm very pleased with my king Ranch so it would take a lot of convincing to get me to change over. If you plan on buying a new truck and its a Dodge and u dont tow very heavy loads think about getting that Pennistar v6. Great buy great mpg and decent towing. By the way u used to buy exclusively through David Stanley Ford. My dad still does.
The Titan was pretty much the first 1/2 ton class truck to come with a premium engine as its only engine unlike FoMoCo, GM and Dodge/Fiat where they offer several different engines. It was also as far as I can tell to come out with a truck engine that has a DOHC, Lincoln Navigator had the 5.4L DOHC but never the F150. So it is decent. Mileage is that of the 2 valve and 3 valve 5.4L SOHC Triton engines. Other than the TItans having crap until 08 when they did several redesigns for the suspension and exhaust to help with 04-07 problems.
The Titan and Armada were way head of their time when they were first released. It sure took a long time for other companies to catch up. I wonder how the 2016 Titan will compare though.
The Titan had to run in 2nd gear and running between 4,000 and 5,000 the entire time to maintain any speed. The 3.5L Ecoboost Ford was able to grunt up that hill without revving as high.
its a twin turbo v6 is why but now the problems are showing up after getting miles on them, the air is thin and the turbos like on diesels do best in higher elevation's because it compresses the air. you can build a 4 cylinder that will out perform the eco v6 but again it wont last because of the high pressures on the smaller engine just like the v6 vs the v8, v8 will always win in the end, put a twin turbo on those v8's and see what happens
sublimedward only if they were built poorly. I was waiting to see how those Subarus held up and turns out that WRX are doing fine, but STi aren't. WRX getting 300k miles before any work needed to the engine, whereas the more powerful STi are blowing up at 30k miles.
I loved my Titan. I worked the piss out of it. It always felt strong. The Titan felt stable and planted to the road. It had the most connected feel to the road of any truck i had driven, with good feedback and handling. I love the look of the Ford. But if i HAD to buy a truck tomorrow, I would buy the Chevy. It would do everything I need and it does it in more comfort and refinement. But if the new Titan was already out, I would buy it tomorrow. Well, as long as they do not screw up the looks like they did with the pathfinder.
Great reviews... It would be interesting to see how one driver interprets the performance of each vehicle. Three different drivers, driving three different vehicles introduce variables of individual subjectivity. It would be nice to see one driver interpret the experience of each vehicle. But still... good review.
Great place to test for torque and towing..... Leaving Silverthorne headed up to Eisenhower tunnel! I don't think my 2013 FJ can even get above 80 going up that hill!
They should redo these test with a couple of years older model with miles on them and see how they all do cause those new gmc 1500 has lots of bug to work out all of the ecopoop f150 are traded in for 5.0 V8
FYI: "Ike Gauntlet" stats; Eisenhower (westbound 1.693 mile in length) - Johnson (eastbound 1.697 mile in length) Memorial Tunnels with elevation of 11,013 feet at the east portal and 11,158 feet at the west portal. Loveland Basin Ski Area (start of "Ike Gauntlet") at 10,800 ft or Loveland Valley Ski Area (alternate start of "Ike Gauntlet") at 10,400 ft. Silverthorne, Colorado (U-Turn of "Ike Gauntlet" exit 205) at an elevation of 9,035 ft. source: Wikipedia & Magellan & ME (resident)
+Matt Blomer They actually said it was 9500, and they were almost right. The King Cab 2wd Titan with 3.36 gears is rated for 9500. You are correct about the Pro4X King Cab being rated at 9300 lbs. Titan Tow ratings are the same from 04-15.
So just wondering, my 14 Crew Cab Titan short bed says towing is only 7200lbs not 9500lbs. The model option with that much is the King Cab long bed. Just a thought in the competition. Love my Titan.
Watching this at the tail end of 2021, hoping to trade my 13 Frontier Pro-4X for a Titan! Love my Frontier but it does not have what it takes to pull my family of four, a camper and all our gear. awesome truck otherwise but I need more grunt and glad to run across this review. Thanks FLT!
Do it I have a 2012 Nissan Titan and couldn't be happier. I got it with 50k miles and now it has 162k on it and nothing major has gone wrong, I live in Minnesota to and has seen some of the harshest winter conditions and has never left me stranded or even close to stuck in the snow.
@@jasonpark5692 I traded my ‘16 Frontier in for a new ‘24 Titan. I liked the frontier but needed more room for a larger family. I’m hoping it lasts long enough for my toddler to drive it.
Interesting to look back at which of these 2014's has proven reliable and a good purchase with 10 years of age and 200k miles on it....give me a Titan any day if the week.
are you guys going to review the ram 1500 eco diesel? or use it for the ike gauntlet?? you guys did 2 reviews but nothing special. you guys make really good vids. I'm 13 and love to watch this.
Honestly for a fair comparison you should use ford biggest v8 not a twin turbo v6, everyone already knows that at higher altitude turbos will be the best out of all of them because it sucks in more air. So honestly take the raptor and use it instead of the ecoboost.
Guess if you want to tow things like this get a 3/4 and a diesel. I realize there's times you're going to need to pull with your 1/2 ton, but if this is an frequent thing then go bigger or stay home.
Guys...I really love you but you have an endless stream of problems with your trailer brake settings. It's a little concerning and a bit irritating. If the temp on your trailer brakes are 80 degrees and the temp on the truck is 700+ then you know that your brake settings are seriously off, even if the trailer has drum brakes. That trailer would run easily at 80 degrees with that load with zero brakes applied...which leads us to believe that zero trailer brakes were applied.
I like the Titan. I was impressed. Wish they'd have brought a Dodge and Toyota also. Make this a real test. Run them all the same to show the short comings and strengths of each. Why a 6.2 in the Chevy if it can't haul the payload? Seems dumb to me.
It's all because of a little software issue that causes the Chevy's 6-speed to not downshift when it's supposed to. They really should've used a 4-speed imo. Every 6-speed model I've driven always feels like it's hunting for gears, even slipping at times.
Hello guys. I was wondering if you are using a manual selection of a gears. Like if you driving down hill, should not using D(drive) because of using too much brakes. I think you must change the gear selection to manual to 3 or any other lower gear.
everybody has their opinions however I have a 2014 silverado with 5.3 two wheel drive quad cab. I love it gets 22 highway 18 city all day long. also has plenty of power. I test drove ford and dodge and toyota and Nissan. silverado was the best truck for me. for the money.
9:30 when he talks about the axle ratio and the transmission is that the same case with the Nissan frontier? just curious because I turned down the opportunity to buy a pro x 4x4 because the dealer slapped 35-inch mud tires on it and I thought the axle and axle ratio couldn't handle such big tires. Any thoughts?
After watching all 3 videos, the nissan, ford, and chevy, I noticed your trailer brakes were 78° for the ford and the nissan and 80° for the chevy. What is a good safe temperature for trailer brakes?
Mark G well dodge is doing something right being the back to back champion, mind explaining that to me. Also i like ford more than chevy but the 2015 f150 is almost identical to the 2015 suburban/tahoe
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Over the past ten years the Titan has competed with three generations of the Silverado, and two generations of the F-150, and it still is a worthy competitor. Nissan has made a very good truck.
Exactly. Both the Armada and Titan were extremely advanced for their time, it's just Nissan hasn't bothered upgrading them until 2016. The new XD looks great.
Lucas Strong not hating but it looks like a ford however I still can't wait for the Cummins diesel
Smokey BEAR it's not hate. It does. Lol. But then again, every truck looks like a 150.
Classified Info yes especially the Nissan Armada . I have 2013 Nissan Armada platinum. Took it from nyc to Canada in harsh winter -7 degree Fahrenheit. When we was heading back for nyc we end up in a harsh blizzard in 1ft snow . The armada didn’t back down we made back all the way to nyc home safe it was pitch dark
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So basically Nissan made a truck designed in 03 that competes with the 2 newer updated trucks about 13 years after. That's crazy the Titan is great.
But it looks like a Nissan.....
@@kenhughes9437 Looks are opinions. I personally like the look of the older titans. Nissan haters are endless.
Uhh no the titan was made in 2004
@@mr.gainiac6304 it was designed in 2003 and released as a 2004 model is what he's trying to say
@@mr.gainiac6304 designing for the titans was around year 2000 which production started about late 2003
Love this Gen Titan. I bought an 08 last year with low miles and the max tow package it is a gem of a truck!
Interesting to see all the import truck haters out there....The Nissan Titan, introduced in 2004, and with no major revisions to the truck since (it was class-leading at the time and introduced many innovative features as well), is still competative with the latest and greatest from the "Big 3", as evidenced by this test. Sure its due for an update, which will happen in 2015. I bet that they build a new Titan that will dispatch the domestic trucks with ease, and let them play catch-up for another 10 years.
The Ford's brakes were at least 100 degrees hotter than the Nissan's, even WITH an integrated trailer brake control. Point: Nissan.
The Ford, even with it's EcoBoost technology (let's see how reliable it is as the miles rack up) that gives it an advantage at this altitude and a 6-speed transmission, only managed to pull 0.1 MPG better up this grade (2.9 vs. 2.8)? The 5.6L Endurance engine has proven to be bulletproof, and anyone towing with an EcoBoost is not going to get significantly better MPG, at least not enough to warrant the increased premium cost of the engine initially, nor the increased maintenance and repair costs that will inevitably turn up. Of course, if you aren't planning on keeping the truck for 250,000 miles and trading it in as the warranty runs out, I guess that won't matter. Other than the downtime....
The GM, with a larger, 10-year newer 6.2L engine SHOULD do better than the 5.6L in the Titan, so that was expected. Again, 6 speed transmission gives it an edge. When the Titan came out in '04, the Ford and GM offerings had 4 speed autos in them, so like I said, Nissan led the way (technically, the RAM 1500 was also available with an optional 5 speed auto, so I'll give credit where credit is due). The 2007 Tundra was first to market with a 6 speed auto in a half-ton. Let's see what debuts on the new version of the Titan, I'm sure it will impress.
Hopefully, TFL Trucks will do a comparo at that time and re-do this test with the latest models from each manufacturer, and then we'll see where the numbers are. For the record, I own a 2005 Titan 4x4, with 258,000 (and counting) miles on it. I tow every summer with it, and the engine and transmission are all original with no repairs done, only normal maintenance. I drive it every day (obviously, with 258k on it). It has been, and will continue to be, rock solid. Go drive any domestic truck with 258k on it and then come talk smack about which truck is a POS.....
Exactly. Both the Armada and Titan were extremely advanced for their time, it's just Nissan hasn't bothered upgrading them until 2016. The new XD looks great.
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I've just looked into the titan and wish I could have got 1 I have a 96 nissan d21 still reliable and fun to drive
I agree 100 percent...
Lots of people hate on it because it's an import when technically it's not, it's designed and manufactured in America
10 year old tech putting to shame the newer trucks. Shocker.... Go Nissan! Love my new Titan.
The titan is one good sounding truck
Hey guys. I have a 2011 pro 4x crew cab with lift kit and 35 MTs. It also has Airiad Mxp cai and Bully dog tune. Even family members drive it and are very impressed how a 7 year old 68k miles truck has so much power and speed and handles the moderate high desert terrain with no problems. In December 2010 I paid 28.4k for it new. In 7 years it's had 1 bad battery 1 bad rear window regulator 1 cracked exhaust header. Those 3 were replace under warranty. I am the only one in my family who will off-road my truck because other members all paid north of the high 50k for their trucks and are afraid to break them. I regularly maintain this Titan and plan on keeping it until the engine or trans falls out which should be at minimum another 120k miles.
I have dodges, gmcs, and fords. Now I have a tundra, and think its the best ive owned in my life. The titan is a very strong truck, and has been a great contender since it started in 04. I just like the Japanese build quality better, they are smooth and quiet even after putting 200k+ miles. The titan 5.6 had more torque than the hemi and every other engine its size until recently, its been a beast for 11 yrs. Go Nissan and Toyota.
Go America, buy American
David Cavalari the titan is american designed, American built, and only sold in America.
But still a Japanese company sorry.
+David Cavalari So based on that logic, Chrysler is what Italian or British lol? Nissan is a publicly traded corporation keeping hard working Americans in jobs building Titans without being bailed out by the US Taxpayer or some crap Italian automaker. Sorry.
How many Ram trucks do you see in Japan? Not really fair to our country is it? Yet you dumbasses keep buying foreign shit and killing our American companies. And Chrysler even moved their Ram truck assembly plant from Mexico back to the United States. Move to Japan if you like their trucks better.
I’ve had trucks all of my adult life, mostly from the big 3. I bought a 2021 Nissan Titan Pro4X in 2020 and absolutely love this truck! No issues at all, both off road or on.
How about a video of standard engines and standard towing?? FYI, Nissan is the only truck on the market with a STANDARD V8. Not to mention Nissan Titan is the ONLY TRUCK with Dana 44's. You know the company that makes axels for JEEPS. Also, Titans have the biggest drive shafts, and U joints. Titan's are also made in Mississippi. Chevy, GMC, Ford, Dodge, Toyota all have a standard V6. Whats the point of a V6 in a full size truck? F-150's are made here, Chevys are 50% mexican or Canadian made and half are built in Canada so the ones built in Canada are imports by definition. Dodges engine and trans are built in mexico. Dodge is the most foreign truck. Toyota trucks are made in the UAW and Toyota's UAW refuses to fire its workers when times are slow. In Fenton, MO where I live Chrysler closed a 1500 job plant, but Toyota's UAW makes the workers do landscaping and what not so they still get a paycheck. Sorry for the off topic on where trucks are made but its frustrating when people call Toyota and Nissan trucks foreign when they are made right here in America with 60% of the parts made here as well if not more. Ive been going to dealers all over Missouri and test driving trucks as well as looking the small sticker that tells where its made. Most American in order from research shows this: Ford, Nissan, Toyota are the most American. Then Chevy/GMC. Dodge is the 70% Mexican made. Well its obvious from my economic degree that when something is not made here or the parts are not made by Americans that receive a paycheck and buy goods and pay taxes then how does that help our economy. Again sorry about the off topic but people need to wake up and cant just judge a book by its cover. Go out and do research. Its not hard. Im not here to argue im here to talk about this. So if yall want to have a normal conversation then ill be more then happy. Nissan does have the highest standard towing.
WOW!!! THANKS GUYS, FOR ALL OF YOUR AMAZING, EXPERT WORK!!!! MUCH APPRECIATED!!!! FYI: I JUST BOUGHT A 2012 TITAN, AND I THINK THAT IT'LL BE AN AWESOME TRUCK FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!!!....
Hows the truck?
Really liking this Ike gauntlet 2. Wouldn't mind seeing Fords 5.0, 6.2, gm's 5.3 , ram hemi and ecodiesel and Toyota tundra with the same loads. Then Ike gauntlet 3 with 3/4 ton gas pulling same load. Finally Ike gauntlet 4 with 1 ton diesels pulling this same load and then maybe pulling 20k+
I like this truck, a lot. Being a 10 year old design I think it did extremely well. I like how the transmission is geared perfectly, it wasn't hunting one bit.
+WRB considering what a 10 year old ford or chevy was like I'd say they paved the way forward 10 years ago
first spray on bed ,first 300+ hp engine in a 1/2 ton and soon the first diesel v8 in the 1/2 ton market.
+David Stanley i love my 07 kc, nissan did a good job on the transmission tuning.
1st 5 speed 1/2 ton as well.
tech wise 1st built in nav.
I love my 2013 Titan.
Not bad for a truck designed in 2003 to compete with brand new 2014 designs. Some are on their second design in those 10 years. Here's a video idea. Take a 2008 Nissan Titan and put it against the Ford F150, Chevy 1500, Dodge 1500 of the same year and redo this test. The Titan VK56 5.6L V8 would destroy the Ford 5.4L V8, Chevy 5.3L V8 doesn't stand a chance, Dodge Hemi 5.7L V8 might hang with it. Of those trucks only Ford and Nissan had fully boxed frames. Nissan produced a very solid truck for the time. Even in 2008 the Nissan Titan tow ratings were the same or higher than those trucks.
12:40 TITAN is 10 years old against 2014 trucks? did I hear that wrong?
What he mean is titan was born in 2004 so at that time was a 10 yo truck
My 2014 Pro-4x crew cab would have no issue climbing that hill with its CAI, Exhaust and 2°Timing advance. I have pulled nearly 9k with ease at less altitude.
Love the IKE tests guys. Maybe mentioning the GCW and GCWR for each would be useful info. Here I think the GCW (Titan) was 10,010 trailer + 700 occupants + 5259 (truck) = 15969# GCW
I wish Nathan would drive all the trucks he has a heavy foot and would give them the true test but good work I love all the videos
Way to go Titan!! thank you TFLT
This test is more what I am looking to see. I pull a Travel Trailer with a very tall profile and it weighs about 7700 lbs. I am really interested to see what the Chevrolet/GMC 6.2 towing numbers look like and one of the comparisons I am making is between the Eco boost and the 6.2 Sierria. Thanks Guys
Y'all should tackle a pre year 2000 Ike gauntlet. Gas and Diese with under 150k gas miles and under 250k for the diesels. That would be a good throwback
You should check the temp of the rear diff too.
CHILL, NISSAN TITAN is WONDERFULL
Shout out to the TFL boys. The video production has increased 10x.
I get a kick out of the Nissan hater comments. I live in Texas, where I think it's in the state constitution that you're required to own a truck because EVERYone seems to have one. Mine is a Titan (2005); brother's is a Ford (2016); father's is a Dodge (2017). Mine is the ONLY ONE to come standard with a V8. They had to upgrade theirs to get a V8 and mine still gets better mileage. Mine comes standard with the Dana 44 axel (I believe theirs are 35s), which means mine is way more appropriately configured for heavy-duty use. Mine came standard with extendable towing mirrors and I've towed a fully loaded toy-hauler/camper, all the gear in the bed, a wife, four kids, and two dogs in the cab and my Titan rolled along at highway speeds with no increase in brake, engine, or transmission temperature. Mine even came standard with a sprayed on bed liner that neither of theirs had available (although I think one of them listed that as an option). The big thing for me is the quality. My Titan is now 16-years old and she still fires up immediately, blows ZERO smoke, doesn't burn oil and has lost a grand total of 3hp at 167,000 miles. After all these years and miles I can still drive her and hear no creaks, squeaks, or rattles from anywhere. All the switches and buttons still work and aside from one starter motor and one alternator, the only time she's been in the shop is for normal maintenance. Compare that to my brother's and father's trucks, both of which have been in the shop for various reasons or another; both have already begun to creak and rattle; and neither have the same features as my old girl. People can fist pump the whole American brand thing all they want, but my Titan is more American made than Ford or GM and it's clearly holding up better. I don't think either of their trucks will last another 5 years, to say nothing about making it to sixteen years. And I won't even mention the time I had to pull the brother's Ford up a hill because it got itself stuck in the sandy slope.
Absolutely true
I wonder how the Titan would have compared in this test to the Ford, Chevy, and Dodge truck back in 2004 when it came out.
Way better. In 2004 it was rated at the best truck because it was the only full sized to have a 305hp v8 all the others were less than that.
My money is still on the Titan. A solid truck that has lasted through three generations of the other three "American" brands. Much more dependable and no bugs to worry about like you would in the Ford, Dodge, or Chevy.
its good and realistic slightly overloading the trucks to see how they perform at there limits. thank you tfl
My 13 Pro 4x is just turning 245,000kms and its the absolute best and most reliable vehicle ive ever owned. Sure its not perfect on gas but when I got it for 35k and todays trucks are over 45 or 50K or higher... I can buy a ton of gas for 45K!! this truck rides great. Easy to see out with few blind spots and everyone who has been it or driven it, really likes it a lot. As long as it doesn't cost me a ton of money to repair I will drive on and keep her waxed. She looks awesome in Galaxy Black and is Loaded. Love my Titan Pro4X and will be sad to see her go one day.oh wait. I had to put tie rod ends in and one ball joint and on third set of tires. Not bad.
I'd be interested in seeing a comparisons of N/A V6 trucks.
i was going to say those mirrors look like 99-07 super duty mirrors but then i heard you guys say they are made by the same company.
I think that Cummins that passed you just proved once again why diesels are king up there. Presumably that 5th wheel was about 12-15k lbs? But the 10-yr old Titan did well. Looking forward to the new model with its own Cummins and I would assume it will also offer the direct-injected 5.6 V8 with 400 HP / 410 lb-ft with 7 or 8 speed auto.
interesting thing, the trucks sitting on the trailers at 3:47 are 5-ton FMTV trucks, rated for the same payload as the trailer that these pickups are towing.
Great video guys. I'd like to point out that I know you are saying put everything in automatic and see what happens but.... if 0-60 isn't done that way I don't think this should either. You guys should try to get the absolute best numbers in every truck. Afterall a truck owner would probably downshift manually when the load starts to feel heavy. Regardless its still a good data point and I appreciate you guys' videos.
Japanese cars and trucks are number one. They're reliable and built to last👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It's built in Mississippi. )
you guys should do a small truck competition with the Dakota, Colorado and the ranger!!! that would be very interesting!!!
Only issue I have here is that most 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks are only rated to tow 5000 lbs unless you have weight distribution hooked up. This would also help with the sag.
You should be doing overloaded tests in the new episodes!!! Love it!
Hope y'all retest the Ram and Tundra with this new trailer.
and o wait when the 5.0 Dsl come with it
Good test and impressed to see the Nissan hold its own loaded like that. I agree that I hope to see you guys get ahold of a 5.0 F150 for a similar test.
i would love to see them use the 5.0
Comment for Fast Lane. Each truck,each trailer and each trailer brake will have a different gain setting. The correct way to calibrate is to accelerate to approx 25 mph then only using the trailers brakes slow the truck. Continue to increase or decrease gain until the trailer slows the truck at a normal pace without locking up the tires on the trailer. Just FYI. This is probably why the brakes have gotten so hot in all these videos.
Yeah, these guys don't seem to scientific in their testing...and always biased.
I don't feel that they intend to be bias. Everyone has their preferences. Me im a Ford guy. The only reason that is cause I've owned every brand of truck except a nissan or Toyota. I worked in the oil fields of Oklahoma and saw every other brand pull and work through mud and snow. My grand father was a ford man till the day he died. He had 40year old ford trucks out there still running better than newer Chevy or Dodge. My conclusion after all these experiences was that Ford makes the better workhorse. I am glad they stepped up their game in tech. Toyota would be my second choice. Dodge at a very tight third. Chevy then Nissan. I have lots of friends with Nissans all say their fuel eco just sucks. And for as old of a power train as it is,its power and capability is impressive. 10 years ago one of the better trucks. Today not so much. Well see if that changes with the new diesel engine. I don't think it will but maybe.
Austin Kendall Nice to see a fellow Oklahoman on here. What do you think about the new Dodges? I've been a Ford guy too but since working at David Stanley in Midwest City I've come to like Dodges too. But of course I'm not hauling at work and the hauling I do at home is of course with a ford lol
Well dodge has come a long way.used to have problem after problem. Now hardly any recalls or warranty issues. I know they work great in the trenches. But if u work that means u like to save money. Right now dodge only has the power. They haven't hit the right combo of power and economy. Ford has. I seriously in my king ranch 4x4 get 17 mpg in the city. 21 to 22 hwy. And people say I'm BSing I had took a pic of one of my empty tanks. And on my display it said 597mi. On that tank I was still 50 to E. 23mpg. Now that trip was mostly flat. But that's what I got. And my king ranch has 3.73 rear end and the eco boost engine. Now one of my buddies recently let me drive his 2013 Big Horn. loved it. Air ride suspension can u say sweet. Felt just as powerful as my truck but that mpg didn't get better than 13 city. Now if ur a truck guy like I am. Then u know that 4mpg on a 28 gallon or bigger (in my case 36 gallon) that's a huge difference. Over 100 mile range difference on the 28 gallon tank. Good news dodge patterned with Fiat and designed an ecodiesel. Low on HP but high on TQ. Now they estimated a 10000 lb tow rating when properly equiped and 20 mpg overall 25 hwy and 18 city when released. Great. But diesel in TN right now (that's where I live now.) Is $3.89 compared to $3.02 for gas. In closing I would say great product and its worth buying but I'm very pleased with my king Ranch so it would take a lot of convincing to get me to change over. If you plan on buying a new truck and its a Dodge and u dont tow very heavy loads think about getting that Pennistar v6. Great buy great mpg and decent towing. By the way u used to buy exclusively through David Stanley Ford. My dad still does.
Sorry lots love typos. I used to buy exclusively through David Stanley Ford.
The Titan was pretty much the first 1/2 ton class truck to come with a premium engine as its only engine unlike FoMoCo, GM and Dodge/Fiat where they offer several different engines. It was also as far as I can tell to come out with a truck engine that has a DOHC, Lincoln Navigator had the 5.4L DOHC but never the F150. So it is decent. Mileage is that of the 2 valve and 3 valve 5.4L SOHC Triton engines. Other than the TItans having crap until 08 when they did several redesigns for the suspension and exhaust to help with 04-07 problems.
The Titan and Armada were way head of their time when they were first released. It sure took a long time for other companies to catch up. I wonder how the 2016 Titan will compare though.
The Titan had to run in 2nd gear and running between 4,000 and 5,000 the entire time to maintain any speed.
The 3.5L Ecoboost Ford was able to grunt up that hill without revving as high.
its a twin turbo v6 is why but now the problems are showing up after getting miles on them, the air is thin and the turbos like on diesels do best in higher elevation's because it compresses the air. you can build a 4 cylinder that will out perform the eco v6 but again it wont last because of the high pressures on the smaller engine just like the v6 vs the v8, v8 will always win in the end, put a twin turbo on those v8's and see what happens
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only if they were built poorly. I was waiting to see how those Subarus held up and turns out that WRX are doing fine, but STi aren't. WRX getting 300k miles before any work needed to the engine, whereas the more powerful STi are blowing up at 30k miles.
I honestly can not wait until Nissan comes out with Cummins in 2015. I really think its going to give Nissan a chance up with the top trucks.
It's amazing that this truck "did well" for 10 years ago standards.
I loved my Titan. I worked the piss out of it. It always felt strong. The Titan felt stable and planted to the road. It had the most connected feel to the road of any truck i had driven, with good feedback and handling.
I love the look of the Ford. But if i HAD to buy a truck tomorrow, I would buy the Chevy. It would do everything I need and it does it in more comfort and refinement. But if the new Titan was already out, I would buy it tomorrow. Well, as long as they do not screw up the looks like they did with the pathfinder.
My 2011 Titan heavy metal came with a break a break controller.
Great reviews... It would be interesting to see how one driver interprets the performance of each vehicle. Three different drivers, driving three different vehicles introduce variables of individual subjectivity. It would be nice to see one driver interpret the experience of each vehicle. But still... good review.
Great place to test for torque and towing..... Leaving Silverthorne headed up to Eisenhower tunnel! I don't think my 2013 FJ can even get above 80 going up that hill!
80?
@@knightrider1545 haha yeah I dont have that vehicle anymore but the FJ's arent known for being fast or powerful.
They should redo these test with a couple of years older model with miles on them and see how they all do cause those new gmc 1500 has lots of bug to work out all of the ecopoop f150 are traded in for 5.0 V8
Video footage was put together very nicely. Content wasn't bad either!
FYI: "Ike Gauntlet" stats;
Eisenhower (westbound 1.693 mile in length) - Johnson (eastbound 1.697 mile in length) Memorial Tunnels with elevation of 11,013 feet at the east portal and 11,158 feet at the west portal.
Loveland Basin Ski Area (start of "Ike Gauntlet") at 10,800 ft or Loveland Valley Ski Area (alternate start of "Ike Gauntlet") at 10,400 ft.
Silverthorne, Colorado (U-Turn of "Ike Gauntlet" exit 205) at an elevation of 9,035 ft.
source: Wikipedia & Magellan & ME (resident)
I'm sure you get this all the time, but thanks for being none bias.
Really should bring back the Ram Hemi 8sp and the Toyota for this new test..
Need to check your facts guys, I work at a Nissan dealership and I pulled up the specs and the titan PRO-4X has a 9300lb towing capacity not a 8500lb.
This is 2014 not 2015 or 2016
+Matt Blomer They actually said it was 9500, and they were almost right. The King Cab 2wd Titan with 3.36 gears is rated for 9500. You are correct about the Pro4X King Cab being rated at 9300 lbs. Titan Tow ratings are the same from 04-15.
2015 Titan at 10,000 feet elevation UNLOADED felt like someone stuck a 4 cylinder in it.
Rerun the tundra and ram 5.7 with the 10000 pound trailer. I bet they won't beat the Titan by much if any.
+HuskyNut78 I would love to see this as well. They won't though :(
@anthony_but why not? I'd love to see it too.
So just wondering, my 14 Crew Cab Titan short bed says towing is only 7200lbs not 9500lbs. The model option with that much is the King Cab long bed. Just a thought in the competition. Love my Titan.
Cant wait to see the silverado and f150 floor it while towing rather then having them all stay at 60
Shaun had a good idea of testing full-size SUV's on this test...
Watching this at the tail end of 2021, hoping to trade my 13 Frontier Pro-4X for a Titan! Love my Frontier but it does not have what it takes to pull my family of four, a camper and all our gear. awesome truck otherwise but I need more grunt and glad to run across this review.
Thanks FLT!
Do it I have a 2012 Nissan Titan and couldn't be happier. I got it with 50k miles and now it has 162k on it and nothing major has gone wrong, I live in Minnesota to and has seen some of the harshest winter conditions and has never left me stranded or even close to stuck in the snow.
@@jasonpark5692 I traded my ‘16 Frontier in for a new ‘24 Titan. I liked the frontier but needed more room for a larger family. I’m hoping it lasts long enough for my toddler to drive it.
Thanks TFL, great test. Can't wait for the rest. Can you test the F-150 5.0 this time?
Interesting to look back at which of these 2014's has proven reliable and a good purchase with 10 years of age and 200k miles on it....give me a Titan any day if the week.
Have a 12 Titan n a 08 armada. No problem.
are you guys going to review the ram 1500 eco diesel? or use it for the ike gauntlet?? you guys did 2 reviews but nothing special.
you guys make really good vids. I'm 13 and love to watch this.
Honestly for a fair comparison you should use ford biggest v8 not a twin turbo v6, everyone already knows that at higher altitude turbos will be the best out of all of them because it sucks in more air. So honestly take the raptor and use it instead of the ecoboost.
Guess if you want to tow things like this get a 3/4 and a diesel. I realize there's times you're going to need to pull with your 1/2 ton, but if this is an frequent thing then go bigger or stay home.
You guys said that in Pro-4x video tht y'all would do the 'buy it, rent it, or lease' in this video. But you guys did not!! What happened?
when are you guys gonna do the test with the Titan equipped with the 5.0 Cummins Diesel ?
Guys...I really love you but you have an endless stream of problems with your trailer brake settings. It's a little concerning and a bit irritating. If the temp on your trailer brakes are 80 degrees and the temp on the truck is 700+ then you know that your brake settings are seriously off, even if the trailer has drum brakes. That trailer would run easily at 80 degrees with that load with zero brakes applied...which leads us to believe that zero trailer brakes were applied.
Sorry, correction, the truck was 500+ degrees, not 700.
Why don't you guys ever compare regular cab diesel 2wd trucks? Those are the real trucks meant for towing right? I would like to see that
I think you'll all need to add the weight off yourselves in that test too! Three people in the cabin adds a good amount more!
Sorry... you did note at 8:20
Aghhh. I can't wait until tomorrow and friday.
I cant find the other two parts of the videos.
I like the Titan. I was impressed. Wish they'd have brought a Dodge and Toyota also. Make this a real test. Run them all the same to show the short comings and strengths of each. Why a 6.2 in the Chevy if it can't haul the payload? Seems dumb to me.
It's all because of a little software issue that causes the Chevy's 6-speed to not downshift when it's supposed to. They really should've used a 4-speed imo. Every 6-speed model I've driven always feels like it's hunting for gears, even slipping at times.
Hello guys. I was wondering if you are using a manual selection of a gears. Like if you driving down hill, should not using D(drive) because of using too much brakes. I think you must change the gear selection to manual to 3 or any other lower gear.
Love how the Ram Diesel just passes you.
I wonder if that trailer was 10,000 pounds though?
Why that guy spoke russian while measuring the titan's brakes? I was quite surprised when i realised it.
please do a midsize pickup ike gauntlet episode
Did you forget to plugin the trailer brakes?
everybody has their opinions however I have a 2014 silverado with 5.3 two wheel drive quad cab. I love it gets 22 highway 18 city all day long. also has plenty of power. I test drove ford and dodge and toyota and Nissan. silverado was the best truck for me. for the money.
Well our 92 Z71 Off road is still looking great.brought in New.
Did the transmission get close to overheating?
I think all of them will do well
Nissan is coming back with the next gen Titan
Hey Great videos love these test you guys do
I was wondering what cameras and microphones do you use??
Real test I have a titan and it is a strong puller even offroad , seems to me premium fuel helps even ia not needed
9:30 when he talks about the axle ratio and the transmission is that the same case with the Nissan frontier? just curious because I turned down the opportunity to buy a pro x 4x4 because the dealer slapped 35-inch mud tires on it and I thought the axle and axle ratio couldn't handle such big tires. Any thoughts?
After watching all 3 videos, the nissan, ford, and chevy, I noticed your trailer brakes were 78° for the ford and the nissan and 80° for the chevy. What is a good safe temperature for trailer brakes?
Have they had the Tacoma for a test and a review?
lol @ 15:19 when Cummins blows past with a big ass camper haha.
That titan sounds good
Chevy ford and dodge guys all hate eachother however we can all agree that we all hate Nissan
Couldnt agrre with you more, oh andall hate the tundra too. Im a dodge man
Yeah I'm a chevy guy toyota and Nissan will never have a truck that will compete with the 3 big American brands
i disagree......Ford and Chevy make decent trucks but i would buy a nissan over a ram any day reliability and build quality suck on ram
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i think the new titian will be a bad ass truck it will have an available Cummings diesel
Mark G well dodge is doing something right being the back to back champion, mind explaining that to me. Also i like ford more than chevy but the 2015 f150 is almost identical to the 2015 suburban/tahoe
The high revving in the Titan at 8:00 forward doesn't sound good, might burn out the motor out real fast
Eisenhower tunnel is 11,158 ft on the west side NOT 12,000 ft.
Fast Lane Truck, do you have this test with the Super Duty and HD?
The only way you can get the 6.2 in the GM you have to buy the most expensive truck they make, the LTZ? I wonder why???
I would like to try out the ford f150 6.2 liter 411 horse pawer "cogones"