Fun Fact: Zilong's old lore had him capable of traversing space and time and Saber's old lore stated his swords could cut through the space-time rift. They got a lore nerf
I will cover some deeper parts of heros' lore. Kaja is so OP that in that same comic, he literally 1v3 Natan, Lunox and Belerick and was actually winning until Natan used his 2nd skill with Ulti for last resort. He wanted all the smoke until Lunox managed to calm him down. Edith's robot is strong enough to stand toe to toe against Uranus, as seen in the battle loading screen and in lore until Kaja intervened. Zhask sent one of his drone hives to LoD but Argus's former angel-self captured it, which made Zhask have second thoughts and delay his invasion until Argus was consumed by power, releasing his drone hive. Zhask then finally commenced his invasion and fought off with Aurora instead. Aldos did have a contract. But when the maze got locked down, he happened to be on an equal footing of Light and dark energy, not only sparing him but also enhancing his strength further. Yin and Liyuh are different souls, Liyuh is THE evil god while Yin is a martial art genius. Yu Zhong has been clapping Liyuh until he possessed Yin, actually landing a stalemate against Yu Zhong despite his weakened state and Yin still has some control over his body. The fight only ceased when Wanwan intervened. Yu Zhong solo clapped all four oriental warriors without Luo Yi's help in the battle. Yu Zhong was actually possessed by Liyuh the whole time as the black dragon, Yu Zhong wanted all the smoke with Liyuh after breaking free of his control. Baxia in his prime ez clapped Yu Zhong(with Liyuh's influence) and were actually colleagues so Baxia and Yu Zhong were of similar age. Rafaela's item was Feather of Heaven and Argus's item was the Fleeting Time ( the blue crystal wand that reduces CD on kill/assist). Argus shattered his wand when he got corrupted, abandoning his wand behind, and then Rafaela kept it in his stead. Cyclops is the Oppenheimer of LoD, he sealed his space nuke after realizing that it could thanos-snap a planet within seconds. Valentina laid an elf daddy and was in deep love until he died in battle. She couldn't take his death well and made a deal with an abyssal power which made her immortal, giving her time to resurrect her husband and also leaving a curse mark on her future generation in return, especially on Gusion and Aamon.
@@Rayzydiaz Yea becuz you can only find the extras in Zhask's story and the item history. Shock was an understatement when I found out that he used to wield the fleeting time to beat up demons.
I think atlas should be on the list as it was once sealed by the Ancient Ones and then he broke free. Even in the trailer it showed he was very powerful.
I think Mlbb should make a web series or anime series which will make sense about the lore as most of the new players are unaware of the powers and potential of the old heroes once dominated...this will make mlbb even more populer...and I think the mlbb community is thirsty for this...even I am
You need to realize that if they do this then revamp like let aay a major chararcter in the possible series then that could go wrong very quick sometimes revamp means lore gets revamped
yve is clearly stronger than zhask in the lore, zhask ran away from her because he thought he didn’t have a chance to stand against her then there is a portal created by the great fight between martis and gatotkaca, so technically zhask is weaker because if that portal doesn’t exist, surely he’s dead dead in yve’s hand
@@Yisrael-en2xs argus lives in a planet which is basically a star, she can command stars at will and even destroy them, she's atleast planetary or Universal level
I think I'd arrange it like this from top to bottom: -Martis (because that guy is a beast) -Astral guys -Planet and time manipulators -Gods -Ancient Ones -Abyss and Elves -Lab experiments -Humans
Nope martis barely higher than 10 ppl here since he only conquired 3000 worlds which is extremely lower feat than Cosmic beings who already had Low Galaxy+ feats like Novaria Zhask Yve Lunox Natan
Approximately there are 100 billion planets in just one Galaxy and even if it was small Galaxy there would be atleast 6 billion planets which 3000 worlds are nothing compared to it
If Gord is in here, I think Eudora deserves a spot also, she will become the next head of the magic academy where she and gord teaching, she even made the artifacts lightning truncheon and Thunderbelt
Zhask so powerful in Lore - Runs out of Mana in game.😅 Yve Equilibrium balance- Gets turned to Bunny by an afk Nana😅 Martis 3000 years and not a single - Reconnecting please wait Selena Initiated by a The most Feared Demon - Bruno with A ball one shot 😅😅
@@Rayzydiaz no it's the previous incarnation the one who fought the great dragon The one now is the human yu zhong that's why he wants lieh dead cause he's vulnerable to lieh
in MLA Uranus is lorewise stronger than kaja since he's actually made to guard the celestial palace even before kaja became it's ruler and uranus is only recently awakened Also in MLA Kaja calls Uranus "my lord"
Just want to clear somethings about Argus. Firstly in his old lore, he just want to become more powerful that's why he became evil. But in the new lore it's not because of power, it's because he saw the darkness of the world, he saw how cruel the humanity can get, he just want justice or in other words revenge. Even before Cyd (God of Destruction) let him see those dark sides of humanity Argus already knew it but he never said a thing. He only made his mind to seek revenge after he knows what happened to his parents. He has every rights to become evil. Lastly because of lack of foe we never really get to see how much stronger he is. He manages to defeat armies after armies, general after general of the abbys without the sword. We never really gets to see how much powerful he is using the sword which i assume the sword of the God of Destruction himself. He maybe as strong or stronger than Martis or Gatot? He maybe as strong or stronger than Yve? We will never really know.
Nobody has a feat better than martis lol, nothing can justify any hero's lore and somehow stretch it into making it a better feat than conquering a couple thousand worlds without having contact with someone he'd acknowledge as a worthy entity
@@IxJK_ Isn't Gatotkaka's clan defeated Ashura's clan? In the lore if i remember correctly, After Gatot got his Gloves, he never lose a war again, and his defeat just become a legend
@@IxJK_ and yeah just like i said we can't see how powerful Argus really is because of lack of Feats I mean even before he got the Meteoric sword, he is already too powerful he even cracks the Fleeting wand if i remember correctly (his old weapon). The only time we get to see him use his sword is for killing people, but not strong people tho. Like ordinary humans
@@IxJK_Argus feats still not showed yet he just used his light sword to kill general whereas after then when he gains his god of destruction there is no feats showed after but you know abyys is a constituent of different dark verse so do you think planet are bigger than verse
I couldn't agree more, it doesn't fit him, you can just play another game of moonton called Mobile Legends Adventure, there you will read different stories of heroes in mlbb more advanced
When you take into consideration the fact that everything came from chaos, lunox should be number one. Chaos created everything and order controls everything and Lunox have control over both. Her not being number 1 is a crime. Also, Novaria should be a lot higher since she controls actual stars. Cyclops control planets and he's a lot higher. I also feel Yve should be above Zhask. In the animation, Zhask was running from her and that's the only reason Yve hasn't defeated him. You forgot that Yve came to the land of dawn because she's chasing Zhask. If Zhask stayed and fought, he would lose.
the original vexana is also strong with her sinister look and necrokeep power (the only kindom who brings fear in the land of dawn), sadly they revamped her to be a softhearted and damsel in distress disney princess 🥰🥰
Lunox is twilight goddess bruh She deserved to be more powerful than yve and zhask she is literally god of light and dark As it is mentioned in the story indirectly that as the time passes she learns to control her power no one can beat her at her full experience not even martis
Bro int that story it is clearly stated that aurora dealt a heavy blow on zhask that make him badly injured What do expect a heavy blow by goddess he will not having a chance standing against her
The strongest character in the lore is The Unique Creator, and there are powerful characters like Akashick, Rista, Gavana, The Lord of Light, Sekhmet, Shar, Apostae and more who are on the same level if not stronger than Lunox
I find it hard to believe that Aurora isn't part pf the top 5 considering she's the main person responsible for keeping the land of dawn safe from destruction against zhask. Being the queen of the north and inflicting a great wound against a literal dominator of planets that ultimately pushed zhask to delay his plans on destroying land of dawn and aurora being able to brought enough time for yve to catch to zhask says a lot. Only a few could potentially fight and hurt a being like zhask that destroyed if not millions, thousands of planets and it definitely is someone powerful enough to be a queen.
@@bmad1386No It was not, in MLA lore he was traveling with Akashic, Lunox, Alucard, Tigreal and Rafaela in the Akashic ruins and he just literally just got slapped by some dark spirits. also it was not stated that he was very big he's just a dwarf-giant
@@neon.8899Shiver me tembers omg a grizzly bear SOOO STRONG against REAL mystical creatures like aurora zhask and yve not to mention the higher spots like lunox martis and gatot
My only concern is that Leomord could have been in the list he has a line "I'm invincible". While Martis also hasa line "Invincibility, comes solitude".
Now Nolan is the strongest character in the game by a huge margin. Martis conquered 3000 worlds while Nolan holds the entire Multiverse together by spliting himself into a million shards
In my opinion lunox is the most poweful out of them. Chaos and order is literally the most powerful type of magic, its just that she doesn't show much of her power because she just wants peace (My opinion)
Powerful in ML heroes according to their feats 1.Yve(Guardian of the universe) 2.Martis(Defeated 3k worlds and destroys the space and time between universes when he fight gatot) 3.Zhask(Sabotage the balance of the universe) 4.Gatot(Defeated multiple gods and part of destroying the space and time between universes when he fight martis) 5.Lunox(Defeated and feared by two divine lords) 6.Edith(Feared and punisher of evil gods and also the hunter of them) 7.Kaja(Hunters of evil gods) 8.Uranus(Hunter of all evil gods) 9.Aurora(almost killed the destroyer of the balance of the universe) 10.Novaria(Knows the secret of the universe and bend realities since she was a child by controlling the star atlas)
Lunox would be num 1cause she absorb the 2 divide lord that accedently created shar and tia the older than time + she can make her dreams become true or dream manipulation and she is an multiversal/universal level in her full form + she is can do reality wrapped and can create universe and multiverse by her own
Alice should much higher in the list since she is a ruler of the abyss with a lot of enemies. If she was that weak she would not have lived that long. And she has a great mastery of blood magic if not the greatest master of it. Not to mention with how long she has lived she has also likely have dabbled in other forms of magic and other powers. Another things is it is not shown that Julain had defeated Alice he is only shown walking away without any visible damage after a fight with Alice. This is important since for context along with Millisa, Yin, and Xavier they were being pursued by Alice and her goons. If Julain had the power to defeat Alice unscratched and the other three were ranked higher than him. Why would they be running away from Alice and her goons. Given the context rather than say that Julain defeated Alice unscratched it is more likely that he was able to delay her along with her goons and then escape unscratched. I would also add that being a ruler in a place like the abyss if she did not have the strength to hold on to her position she would not have stayed a ruler of the abyss for long either she is replaced by some other blood demon following a rebellion and the like or she is assassinated by some one in the abyss for one reason or another. In a world where individuals can take on entire armies being a talented manipulator will not get here anywhere but an early grave if she is not very powerful herself.
It would be interesting to see the oldest heroes in MLBB, Belerick, Uranus, Kaja, Edith and Valentina are fairly old. But there are others that could be as old as them maybe.
Zhask's race has lived for apparently "countless epochs" under his reign. Had to search up what an epoch is and boy, has he embraced the form of La Cucaracha
Zhask and Yve are cosmic ancient. Atlas is also from a time where ancients(like atlas and grock)devoured elementals(like aurora) And they were trapped at the bottom of the seas by the god of light
To make it clear. World is not the same as a planet, it can also be define as your solar system or even the galaxy and universe itself. And according to the lore Gatorkaca and Martis fight destroy the fabric of their own universe. So we can assume that they are different tier than anybody.
Actually Yve is more powerful. She couldn't win against Zhask but was able to corner him. But Zhask is an expert in escaping. He always manages to escape.
Agree, zhask is actually not good in 1v1 combat in lore (opposite in gameplay) but hes an expert on consuming and destroying. Aurora was able to defeat him and even zhask admitted it (base on his dialouge). But even aurora was overwhelmed by yve. Thats just say a lot. I still think aurore deserves higher. And karina and selena is lower than aldous since aldous was able to defeat selena.
My first ever Question to Kazuki: I am Gatotkaca Main and Playing for more than 3 years. Why didn't Gatotkaca receive any new skin or even a single starlight skin for a very long time and Gatotkaca should be a Fighter/Tank like Fredrinn, because he is good at exp lane and his recommended lane is also exp lane. So the question is, *will Moonton ever recognize Gatotkaca to give a skin or change his role the way they did with Fredrinn's Role??*
My boi zhask lived for countless epochs and people still wonder how hes escaped death. For anybody that wants to know, an eloch is a several ten million years. Ill give props to aurora handling zhask along with tobias, but thats after he was inflicted a heavy blow by Yve prior. Im glad Zhaks is getting the representation he deserves
I think you made a mistake.. from what I remember Argus was not power hunger but was angry for the unjust given to him and the demonic sword added fuel to oil by showing how the church killed his parents making him the fallen angel and seeking revenge for his parents but he could not hurt his sister rafela.
i think novaria should be higher she could resist energy of a black hole and she said herself "a kind of blueness, boundlessness devoured me and then it became me" so i think she is higher also i think ling should be here if zilong is here since after ling got defeated he snapped back and defeated him right?after he got great dragon spear
@@KaslanaTorijimanot really, it's very stupid and random, can't compare to LoL's lore ,like wth are heroes like Johnson and paquito doing here ? They're doing it only because LoL and the other mobas also have lore,they are doing the lore so badly ,like their whole game. Plus most of the players aren't even interested in it or don't even know about it ,so Moneyton aren't focusing that much on it and that's sad , because it has potential.
id say yve is stronger than zhask as the only reason she cant defeat him is because zhask keeps running away so that means she can definitely beat his whole swarm if he didnt run
I always wanted this video, heroes acc to the lore, people discuss and argue on which heri better based on skill, mechanics and scaling forgetting it's just a mere nerfs and buffs thay will change sooner and later!
You have forgot about Minotaur which is at same level as Aldous. He is lasy Minotaur and his old power should be rank higher and be more rememberable. I'm that one lore guy and really thank you for doing this film.
Ikr . Martis is the strongest character in mlbb according to the lore but also he is kinda feared even now. I remeber bacha when i joined hw was very feared character.
The top 7 is really so much arguable considering how each of them have broken ability. Argus who can solo and goes around soloing whole demon armies and now is immortal because of his sword which pretty much makes him invincible. Lunox who has probably the most broken ability to change fate. Yve and zhask who are planetary level. Also Yve is indeed strong than zhask because yve has defeated zhask but failed to kill him. Also zhask is running away from Yve. Also Yve is the one who keeps balance in the universe and destroys beings like zhask who posses threats to universe. Also there's Martis who has destroyed 3000 world. Also considering how Yve praised land of dawn for having strong heroes because of Aurora managing to beat weakened zhask. It's just that you can put anyone above others and it would still make sense. They just are bunch of heroes with broken ability.
Immortality is not the same as invincibility or indestructibility , they are very different from each other . Argus can still be defeated, he was in fact killed by hanzo bc hanzo is controlled by that sword of his which grants him the power to devour souls meaning he can kill argus , as his soul is not indestructible.
@@KaslanaTorijimanope hanzo didnt kill argus There is no lore of that go read mlbb lore again go to hanzo And tap story and read it there no thing as hanzo beating argus also Imortallity meaning you cant die You can be hurt but you simply cant die
@NE0312 tell me you're not lore invested without telling me you're not lore invested. Immortality is subjective in every aspect because everywhere it could be different, and in mlbb immortality gives you the ability to not die physically, your body can not die because it regenerates every wound almost instantly , but just because your body is immortal it does not mean you as a whole are immortal. The body is just a vessel. Anyone who can harm the soul/spirit can harm Argus and eventually kill him . Hanzo's sword Ame No Habakiri(probably spelling it wrong ) has the ability to devour souls, and in mla, which is the story mode of mlbb , hanzo and argus engaged in a duel , hanzo being the winner . And let's not forget that Argus's sword can be broken since it is not indestructible, and when that happens, Argus will lose his immortality. There are just so many other beings, entities, and gods that can kill argus easily.
I think Yve deserve 2nd, as Zhask is always escaping knowing he wont win against Yve. Zhask’s true potential came from his cockroaches or spawn, and these spawns need some time to hatch, I had read in zhask lore that he is hibernating preparing and increasing his spawns somewhere in the south of the land of dawn. And also, zhask was defeated by aurora who was rank lower than him, and that is because dont have those spawns yet in the land of dawn.
I feel like chang'e should be top 20 or sum bc shes a young immortal moon goddess who posesses magical powers and have expericene in karate/ku fu (was trained by the great dragon)
Number 1 by far is Nolan who is quite easily Universal, if not Multiversal. He was shown fighting the Calamity in the cinematics, which was stated multiple times in the lore to be a Cosmic threat of vast magnitude. And Nolan at some point absorbed it, then redirected its power to the other universes he has placed a portion of his soul into. He also had to traverse the multiverse in order to do so which was stated multiple times to be infinite, granting him infinite speed.
Saber can reach sound speed and also can wrap spacetime in half . He also very strong because in life he training until he become peak human , after that laboratory make him even stronger
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Martis defeat the Last world not only because of his determination and training, but also because of Ashura's teeth? Base of what i can remember of the story, Martis really struggled to defeat the 3000th world, but because of his determination to defeat it and never choosing to give up no matter how hard the world he manages to summon the Ashura's teeth and after many days and nights he finally claimed his victory. And also isn't Gatot and Ashura clan (Martis clan lead by martis) enemies? And Gatot, got serious injuries in the last war and run, but after he Got the Gloves (forgot the name) he never lose a war again. It means Gatot Won a war against Martis right? (im telling this story base on my memory please correct me if im wrong)
In the original Shadow puppet (Wayang Kulit) story. Both Gatot's gloves are actually his death uncles (Brajamusti and Brajadenta) which is Arimbi's (Gatot's mother) brothers. FYI Gatot's blood line is 1/4 Jawata (God), 1/4 Human, and 1/2 Rakshasa (equivilent as shura in ML lore). Also Gatot has two half siblings which is. -Antareja : Bima's first son, and also the grandson of Sang Hyang Antaboga (Snake god whose infinite in size) while gatot's can fly, Antareja can Ambles Bumi (Phasing through earth). So basically he can dive inside earth without any problem. -Antasena : this is the most powerful son of Bima. His Aliases is Memaniking Jagad ( World's Finest Jewel). He can Fly, Ambles Bumi, and Live underwater as to live in land. He's so powerful that in Wayang kulit story, Bathara Guru ( the God of the God) can't even defeat him. As he once incite Chaos in kahyangan Suralaya (Heaven) by himself, because of the unjustified law of the gods. And no gods can defeat Antasena, until Semar (semar is secretly the most powerful being in Wayang Kulit cosmology) calms him down. The only one that match Antasena Prowess is his Cousin Wisanggeni. The only difference in Antasena is a bit air headed while Wisanggeni is cunning in mind.
I agree with all the list except one, Alice. She might be defeated and all, but she is the Queen of Abbys, she is mentioned all over the lore. I think she deserve higher list
"3000 worlds and not a single worthy foe" Classic no new words can replace or beat these classic words of martis if moonton tried to chance the lines ✌
Nolan with the Calamity absorbed directly scales to Universal+ bare minimum. Him travelling around the multiverse also grants him infinite speed. You can argue for the other characters being stronger all you want because they've defeated Gods, but you need to take into account that those Gods are featless, and the scale of destruction they caused were never outright stated.
Kagura should be on the list because she was chosen by Seimei (now living in the umbrella as a spirit) ,who worked with the black dragon. Seimei saw the potential in Kagura when she was just a child to be the strongest being in Cadia Riverlands, to be entrusted to hold the power of hundred spirits.
Fun Fact: Zilong's old lore had him capable of traversing space and time and Saber's old lore stated his swords could cut through the space-time rift. They got a lore nerf
How can I read lore?
What is lore?
@@victim8456Lore is the background information of a story in a game, character's backstory and setting. It basically builds the story of the game.
@@microjellian9207 Thanks 😊
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I will cover some deeper parts of heros' lore.
Kaja is so OP that in that same comic, he literally 1v3 Natan, Lunox and Belerick and was actually winning until Natan used his 2nd skill with Ulti for last resort. He wanted all the smoke until Lunox managed to calm him down.
Edith's robot is strong enough to stand toe to toe against Uranus, as seen in the battle loading screen and in lore until Kaja intervened.
Zhask sent one of his drone hives to LoD but Argus's former angel-self captured it, which made Zhask have second thoughts and delay his invasion until Argus was consumed by power, releasing his drone hive. Zhask then finally commenced his invasion and fought off with Aurora instead.
Aldos did have a contract. But when the maze got locked down, he happened to be on an equal footing of Light and dark energy, not only sparing him but also enhancing his strength further.
Yin and Liyuh are different souls, Liyuh is THE evil god while Yin is a martial art genius. Yu Zhong has been clapping Liyuh until he possessed Yin, actually landing a stalemate against Yu Zhong despite his weakened state and Yin still has some control over his body. The fight only ceased when Wanwan intervened.
Yu Zhong solo clapped all four oriental warriors without Luo Yi's help in the battle.
Yu Zhong was actually possessed by Liyuh the whole time as the black dragon, Yu Zhong wanted all the smoke with Liyuh after breaking free of his control.
Baxia in his prime ez clapped Yu Zhong(with Liyuh's influence) and were actually colleagues so Baxia and Yu Zhong were of similar age.
Rafaela's item was Feather of Heaven and Argus's item was the Fleeting Time ( the blue crystal wand that reduces CD on kill/assist). Argus shattered his wand when he got corrupted, abandoning his wand behind, and then Rafaela kept it in his stead.
Cyclops is the Oppenheimer of LoD, he sealed his space nuke after realizing that it could thanos-snap a planet within seconds.
Valentina laid an elf daddy and was in deep love until he died in battle. She couldn't take his death well and made a deal with an abyssal power which made her immortal, giving her time to resurrect her husband and also leaving a curse mark on her future generation in return, especially on Gusion and Aamon.
I didn't know that Argus somehow delayed Zhask invasion... thanks...👍
some of these are made up
Didn't know there was more on argus lore
@@Rayzydiaz Yea becuz you can only find the extras in Zhask's story and the item history. Shock was an understatement when I found out that he used to wield the fleeting time to beat up demons.
Am I the only one who thinks Aldous should be higher than Selena since he nearly killed her with one punch?
the fact that so many people dont know how technically powerful Zhask is
Yeah and I think aurora who kept him in check until now is very strong
Yve counter 😂
Lunox can clap him still.
why the timestamps, names is weird...
@@kenlopez2763Depends on the user I clapped many Lunox users.
I think atlas should be on the list as it was once sealed by the Ancient Ones and then he broke free. Even in the trailer it showed he was very powerful.
And he also so huge as a mountain😲
Its because of the metc tbh
Grock also
Bro is just ocean level character
I think nolan should be on the list because he save the multiverse
You know martis and kratos are the same character in god of war to conquer and battle to the 3000 worlds.
If mlbb have a collab with god of war kratos should be martis
@@ZALGO-GMartis Epic is literally named God of War
martis should get a skin of kratos
@@Psychopath39 ya
@@zephyr5265 ik but they can name it kratos bro it doesn't have to be his god name
I think Mlbb should make a web series or anime series which will make sense about the lore as most of the new players are unaware of the powers and potential of the old heroes once dominated...this will make mlbb even more populer...and I think the mlbb community is thirsty for this...even I am
Though, they do need an extremely good artist to draw the heroes
Yeah it looks interesting i like the power scale leveling
Too much work for too little money, moonton doesn't like it 😂
You need to realize that if they do this then revamp like let aay a major chararcter in the possible series then that could go wrong very quick sometimes revamp means lore gets revamped
They have an animation long ago on abscbn
Meanwhile Chou : I'm only a Human after all
😂
and Bruno the footballer
Paquito...as a boxer but he is faster than fallen angel Argus 😂😂
Chou?human? Chou have a flaming fist you know
@@KinJi_Hikeyand it's game so that's normal you too also watch anime right? It's normal for fictional story to have some kinda weird power
yve is clearly stronger than zhask in the lore, zhask ran away from her because he thought he didn’t have a chance to stand against her then there is a portal created by the great fight between martis and gatotkaca, so technically zhask is weaker because if that portal doesn’t exist, surely he’s dead dead in yve’s hand
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@@_user_botzhask is a lot weaker than yve but in game 💔
@@_user_bot doesn’t that prove my point still stands?
@user_hapi_face we're talking about lore, not the game . Counting his army in its not fair , its like a 5vs1 in mlbb.
@@_user_botbro only judged by the trailer and in-game skills, not the lore💀💀💀
The only hero who's not only the strongest according to the lore, but also the strongest and most feared in the game itself 💀.
i know right lol this guy...
it's like he didn't even put a thought to the heroes above lol it's like it was rushed just for a content only ihhh
@@jhonmarkgoite4424 Yep, this was just put out randomly
this didnt aged well
@@santiagosilva2250 Which hero are they talking about? Martis?
In argus original lore when argus was still an angel zhask was afraid of invading the land of dawn
Dude i need the source
If heard the making of novaria she doesn't just have astral powers she is also a demi-god
and can create, command and destroy stars at will. She should be somewhere in the top 5 since she's a celestial being like Yve & Zhask😊
No
@@arinrayscumdump argus destroy novaria
@@Yisrael-en2xs argus lives in a planet which is basically a star, she can command stars at will and even destroy them, she's atleast planetary or Universal level
@@mastersavager3952 she can comand them true that is her power but she not in top 10 strongest argus is 6 place martis is lunox is 3 zhazk 2
As a MARTIS Main I'm Proud
Yes sir
yesss sirrr
Yes sir
Yve is literally stronger in lore then him
@@leadershipoffender4459 nope
Martis to Kazuki : Are You my Next conquest?💀
Phahahahaah
4th wall
Kazuki negs
I think I'd arrange it like this from top to bottom:
-Martis (because that guy is a beast)
-Astral guys
-Planet and time manipulators
-Gods
-Ancient Ones
-Abyss and Elves
-Lab experiments
-Humans
Nope martis barely higher than 10 ppl here since he only conquired 3000 worlds which is extremely lower feat than Cosmic beings who already had Low Galaxy+ feats like Novaria Zhask Yve Lunox Natan
Approximately there are 100 billion planets in just one Galaxy and even if it was small Galaxy there would be atleast 6 billion planets which 3000 worlds are nothing compared to it
Martis is not even a giant, imagine him fighting cyclops who’s bigger than the sun, what is he gonna do? Lmao
Oummmm Silvanna And Vexana?
Martis will lose to Yve...Cyclops..etc.
He conquered 3000 world's...so what? Cyclops.literally use them as balls😆😆
If Gord is in here, I think Eudora deserves a spot also, she will become the next head of the magic academy where she and gord teaching, she even made the artifacts lightning truncheon and Thunderbelt
Because gord Is like Son Goku
no guin is the top student of eruditio. that means she's better than, vale, valir, eudora, lylia, beatrix who are also students of eruditio
Zhask so powerful in Lore - Runs out of Mana in game.😅
Yve Equilibrium balance- Gets turned to Bunny by an afk Nana😅
Martis 3000 years and not a single - Reconnecting please wait
Selena Initiated by a The most Feared Demon - Bruno with A ball one shot 😅😅
Good Times in the battlefield LoL.
Just a misconception on Yu zhong, he apparently got possessed by Lieh in his previous incarnation which is why he became enemy wih the Great Dragon
Yea, it was revealed really late so not many ppl would have known.
Yes I was about to type the same thing
Wait so yuzhong in the trailer who beat the shit out of zilong and ling is lieh
@@Rayzydiaz Yea, he was possessed by Liyuh long ago. Baxia in his prime beated him and he was sealed into the Dragon Alter.
@@Rayzydiaz no it's the previous incarnation the one who fought the great dragon
The one now is the human yu zhong that's why he wants lieh dead cause he's vulnerable to lieh
in MLA Uranus is lorewise stronger than kaja since he's actually made to guard the celestial palace even before kaja became it's ruler and uranus is only recently awakened
Also in MLA Kaja calls Uranus "my lord"
Just want to clear somethings about Argus.
Firstly in his old lore, he just want to become more powerful that's why he became evil.
But in the new lore it's not because of power, it's because he saw the darkness of the world, he saw how cruel the humanity can get, he just want justice or in other words revenge. Even before Cyd (God of Destruction) let him see those dark sides of humanity Argus already knew it but he never said a thing. He only made his mind to seek revenge after he knows what happened to his parents.
He has every rights to become evil.
Lastly because of lack of foe we never really get to see how much stronger he is.
He manages to defeat armies after armies, general after general of the abbys without the sword.
We never really gets to see how much powerful he is using the sword which i assume the sword of the God of Destruction himself.
He maybe as strong or stronger than Martis or Gatot? He maybe as strong or stronger than Yve? We will never really know.
Nobody has a feat better than martis lol, nothing can justify any hero's lore and somehow stretch it into making it a better feat than conquering a couple thousand worlds without having contact with someone he'd acknowledge as a worthy entity
Also, zhask and yve are equal to one another; the only difference is that one destroys and one creates
@@IxJK_ Isn't Gatotkaka's clan defeated Ashura's clan?
In the lore if i remember correctly, After Gatot got his Gloves, he never lose a war again, and his defeat just become a legend
@@IxJK_ and yeah just like i said we can't see how powerful Argus really is because of lack of Feats
I mean even before he got the Meteoric sword, he is already too powerful he even cracks the Fleeting wand if i remember correctly (his old weapon).
The only time we get to see him use his sword is for killing people, but not strong people tho.
Like ordinary humans
@@IxJK_Argus feats still not showed yet he just used his light sword to kill general whereas after then when he gains his god of destruction there is no feats showed after but you know abyys is a constituent of different dark verse so do you think planet are bigger than verse
Kazuki should start a series about back stories of all the Characters ❤
He would obviously suck at it
He messed up most of the stories in this video
statement without proof @@scarlettrevor7536
He should stop
I couldn't agree more, it doesn't fit him, you can just play another game of moonton called Mobile Legends Adventure, there you will read different stories of heroes in mlbb more advanced
Martis is OP asf in the lore, the dude literally conquest 3000 worlds, and he go to the land of down just to find a worthy opponent
He was at Gato level feats, maybe even stronger had the battle continued
Then he met Lunox with the twilight orb and erase his existence with ease😊
@@willowouie.0117 You underestimate the Ashura King
@@lightchaos4204 Yeah, what i have said is facts
@@willowouie.0117Dude doesn't know the lore 💀
When you take into consideration the fact that everything came from chaos, lunox should be number one.
Chaos created everything and order controls everything and Lunox have control over both. Her not being number 1 is a crime.
Also, Novaria should be a lot higher since she controls actual stars.
Cyclops control planets and he's a lot higher.
I also feel Yve should be above Zhask. In the animation, Zhask was running from her and that's the only reason Yve hasn't defeated him. You forgot that Yve came to the land of dawn because she's chasing Zhask. If Zhask stayed and fought, he would lose.
True , my lunox is the strongest in the lore
Argus fallen due the truth of death of his parents. The thirsty of power is old lore.
Kazuki watched from shorts and tiktok, don't worry about it
Dond dell him whad do dooo!! (Indian accent)
@@scarlettrevor7536 how old are you?
Natan is ao powerful he change heroes back stories by messing with time traveling
@@marcello3945 where did that topic came from?
the original vexana is also strong with her sinister look and necrokeep power (the only kindom who brings fear in the land of dawn), sadly they revamped her to be a softhearted and damsel in distress disney princess 🥰🥰
Lunox is twilight goddess bruh
She deserved to be more powerful than yve and zhask she is literally god of light and dark
As it is mentioned in the story indirectly that as the time passes she learns to control her power no one can beat her at her full experience not even martis
You Don't know anything about zhask yet.
Bro int that story it is clearly stated that aurora dealt a heavy blow on zhask that make him badly injured
What do expect a heavy blow by goddess he will not having a chance standing against her
I know but she a good balance
The strongest character in the lore is The Unique Creator, and there are powerful characters like Akashick, Rista, Gavana, The Lord of Light, Sekhmet, Shar, Apostae and more who are on the same level if not stronger than Lunox
lunox is above shar and gavana since the divine lords she absorbed was above them that the unique god created.
@@Archaoen0
I find it hard to believe that Aurora isn't part pf the top 5 considering she's the main person responsible for keeping the land of dawn safe from destruction against zhask. Being the queen of the north and inflicting a great wound against a literal dominator of planets that ultimately pushed zhask to delay his plans on destroying land of dawn and aurora being able to brought enough time for yve to catch to zhask says a lot. Only a few could potentially fight and hurt a being like zhask that destroyed if not millions, thousands of planets and it definitely is someone powerful enough to be a queen.
Lunox is really powerful too...she holds the balance of light and dark energy of entire universe..
Cyclops's hourglass contains the power from all the planets in his OWN universe
@@bmad1386No It was not, in MLA lore he was traveling with Akashic, Lunox, Alucard, Tigreal and Rafaela in the Akashic ruins and he just literally just got slapped by some dark spirits. also it was not stated that he was very big he's just a dwarf-giant
And cyclops hold universe ... And Sun yu kong destroy the heavy by himself ....
@@mangagod2068 Nope that was only fan made story, plus wukong and sun were different.
she doesnt control light and dark lol. but she has the capacity to balance peace and chaos and that doesnt mean she's powerful lol.
i remember a brief description how zhask only decided to make a move on the land of dawn when argus got corrupted
Yes, Argus is strong but not strong enough
We know that in-lore Chou, Masha, Paquito are very weak af 💀💀
Chou and paquito is just a human being but Masha is a mystical being cuz she possesses the power of grizzly bear.
@@neon.8899Shiver me tembers omg a grizzly bear SOOO STRONG against REAL mystical creatures like aurora zhask and yve not to mention the higher spots like lunox martis and gatot
Chou is undefeated and Paquito defeated his master who was from the abyss.
@@post-humangod2575chou and paq is humans💀 yes they are very powerful only on other humans
@post-humangod2575 can they 1v1 the top 10? Heck, no, they can't!! Ur main hero shouldn't always be the strongest
My only concern is that Leomord could have been in the list he has a line "I'm invincible". While Martis also hasa line "Invincibility, comes solitude".
I think for Martis, its just talking about how strong he is therefore nothing can possibly kill him
That's just Leomord ego
Didn't Tigreal lead the charge to kill Leomord?
That means he's below Tigreal in fighting
Now Nolan is the strongest character in the game by a huge margin. Martis conquered 3000 worlds while Nolan holds the entire Multiverse together by spliting himself into a million shards
Actually Martis and Gatotkaca share the same rank. They fight for days, but none of them lose.
Days??, I remember the battle was going on for years and no one came out on top
I love the part when you showed zoro as a definition of only hardwork
I thought this comment was from me for a sec
Martis wouldn't have the "3000 worlds and not a single worthy foe" line if he had fought Layla.
Gatotkaca being the worthy foe from the 3001th world.....
Well I did guess Martis would be first, but didn't expect zhask being too high of a place but ok.
In my opinion lunox is the most poweful out of them. Chaos and order is literally the most powerful type of magic, its just that she doesn't show much of her power because she just wants peace (My opinion)
And her age is like 1,000000000000 years 😆
No, it is because she has slept for too long that she even forgot who she was and her real potential
Yve still claps her though. She have reality manipulation powers. You know the rift Martis and Gator crested?? Yve close it as if it was nothing
@@clonnlijinhlong2713 the comparison is based on ability not about what the characters has done. (Reminder)
I agree, lunox can even make her dreams come true, thus, possessing the ability to manipulate the future,past , and present and even reality.
Powerful in ML heroes according to their feats
1.Yve(Guardian of the universe)
2.Martis(Defeated 3k worlds and destroys the space and time between universes when he fight gatot)
3.Zhask(Sabotage the balance of the universe)
4.Gatot(Defeated multiple gods and part of destroying the space and time between universes when he fight martis)
5.Lunox(Defeated and feared by two divine lords)
6.Edith(Feared and punisher of evil gods and also the hunter of them)
7.Kaja(Hunters of evil gods)
8.Uranus(Hunter of all evil gods)
9.Aurora(almost killed the destroyer of the balance of the universe)
10.Novaria(Knows the secret of the universe and bend realities since she was a child by controlling the star atlas)
When lunox will complete the twilight orb shell become like her creator the unique God but that didn't happen in the mlbb time-line yet .
Lunox would be num 1cause she absorb the 2 divide lord that accedently created shar and tia the older than time + she can make her dreams become true or dream manipulation and she is an multiversal/universal level in her full form + she is can do reality wrapped and can create universe and multiverse by her own
Cyclops - takes power from all the celestial bodies movements from his WHOLE UNIVERSE
Also controls time and space
-From his mastery storyline
Also, according to his story, Atlas and his kind were imprisoned beneath the ocean because they were eating Elementals(like Aurora)
Lol Saitama solo mlbb
Alice should much higher in the list since she is a ruler of the abyss with a lot of enemies. If she was that weak she would not have lived that long. And she has a great mastery of blood magic if not the greatest master of it. Not to mention with how long she has lived she has also likely have dabbled in other forms of magic and other powers.
Another things is it is not shown that Julain had defeated Alice he is only shown walking away without any visible damage after a fight with Alice. This is important since for context along with Millisa, Yin, and Xavier they were being pursued by Alice and her goons. If Julain had the power to defeat Alice unscratched and the other three were ranked higher than him. Why would they be running away from Alice and her goons. Given the context rather than say that Julain defeated Alice unscratched it is more likely that he was able to delay her along with her goons and then escape unscratched.
I would also add that being a ruler in a place like the abyss if she did not have the strength to hold on to her position she would not have stayed a ruler of the abyss for long either she is replaced by some other blood demon following a rebellion and the like or she is assassinated by some one in the abyss for one reason or another. In a world where individuals can take on entire armies being a talented manipulator will not get here anywhere but an early grave if she is not very powerful herself.
guy has a lame sense of powerscaling. humans are in the top 20s while busted mages like Aurora who fought literal aliens are in the top 30s ahahhaaha
@@mizzdizz4419 literally lol Hanzo is higher than Yu Zhong who is much powerful than him and experienced a lot
At least someone in the world creates lore content
No surprise for Martis 🤭❣️.. As he was the strongest fighter and He's the King
Martis is just built different...strongest not only in the game but also the lore
It would be interesting to see the oldest heroes in MLBB, Belerick, Uranus, Kaja, Edith and Valentina are fairly old. But there are others that could be as old as them maybe.
Isn't estes like 2000 years old😅
Grock maybe
Zhask's race has lived for apparently "countless epochs" under his reign. Had to search up what an epoch is and boy, has he embraced the form of La Cucaracha
Zhask and Yve are cosmic ancient.
Atlas is also from a time where ancients(like atlas and grock)devoured elementals(like aurora)
And they were trapped at the bottom of the seas by the god of light
Kazuki please make a video about literally every heroes story and lore
To make it clear. World is not the same as a planet, it can also be define as your solar system or even the galaxy and universe itself. And according to the lore Gatorkaca and Martis fight destroy the fabric of their own universe. So we can assume that they are different tier than anybody.
Actually Yve is more powerful. She couldn't win against Zhask but was able to corner him. But Zhask is an expert in escaping. He always manages to escape.
Agree, zhask is actually not good in 1v1 combat in lore (opposite in gameplay) but hes an expert on consuming and destroying. Aurora was able to defeat him and even zhask admitted it (base on his dialouge). But even aurora was overwhelmed by yve. Thats just say a lot.
I still think aurore deserves higher. And karina and selena is lower than aldous since aldous was able to defeat selena.
Then we have Shar and gavana from mla
Awaken Alice
Awaken Selena
And Linux
STRONGEST LORE HEROES SHOWCASE -
Moonton: OK! LETS NERF WANWAN
i think Grock should be included considering he is basically a castle he should be quite op
He's just a giant, any cosmic power can overwhelmed him
MARTIS IS ALWAYS A KING.I'm so proud to be a martis global
Dont forget argus wiped half of the abyss bc he was bored
And he's great to tell us about the lore of each hero someday you might be an archeology in RL...
Martis: "3000 worlds and not a single worthy foe"
Bruno: are u serious rn bro?
Gatotkaca is the worthy foe from the 3001th world
Imagine moonton adding Sun Wukong's lore in this game. That monkey literally kicked everyone's butt and almost became unstoppable.
My first ever Question to Kazuki:
I am Gatotkaca Main and Playing for more than 3 years. Why didn't Gatotkaca receive any new skin or even a single starlight skin for a very long time and Gatotkaca should be a Fighter/Tank like Fredrinn, because he is good at exp lane and his recommended lane is also exp lane. So the question is,
*will Moonton ever recognize Gatotkaca to give a skin or change his role the way they did with Fredrinn's Role??*
Not popular enough.
Fun fact: balmond was the most powerful of all mlbb character 😅 imagine spining around in 15 to 20 mins and he didn't feel dizzy 😂😂
😂
Hey kazuki i think you should make a video about all the mlbb hero story part by part
My boi zhask lived for countless epochs and people still wonder how hes escaped death. For anybody that wants to know, an eloch is a several ten million years. Ill give props to aurora handling zhask along with tobias, but thats after he was inflicted a heavy blow by Yve prior. Im glad Zhaks is getting the representation he deserves
I think you made a mistake.. from what I remember Argus was not power hunger but was angry for the unjust given to him and the demonic sword added fuel to oil by showing how the church killed his parents making him the fallen angel and seeking revenge for his parents but he could not hurt his sister rafela.
i think he is talking about argus before the revamp.
@Adam-hd6rs kazuki failed to mention literally argus was the sole reason why zhask didnt conquer the land of dawn and they fought to stalemate...
Yess!!!the video I have been waiting for
Old Vexana lore gave me Elizabeth Bathory vibes. She hunt down the land of dawn maiden.
I'm glad Edith made it to the top ten. Wonder what where the "gods" she was punishing that she became so feared.
i think novaria should be higher she could resist energy of a black hole and she said herself "a kind of blueness, boundlessness devoured me and then it became me" so i think she is higher also i think ling should be here if zilong is here since after ling got defeated he snapped back and defeated him right?after he got great dragon spear
i agree, novarian can even be on par with yve and zhask if it's true that she posseses the power of a black hole.
Kazuzi I just love your content and you too bro...
That small pfp of karina 🔥🔥🔥
You should start a series of the lore of many different characters i bet it will be worth ut
I might say that if lylia can control her powers, she must be on the list
Omg i felt like watching an anime character ranking❤ btw i do agree for martis to be im the first position
we wanna see LAYLA TANK at TOP 1
This dude studies mobile legend bang bang
Hats off🎉
He does not , lore is very deep and complicated unless you play mla you can't discuss lore .
@@KaslanaTorijimanot really, it's very stupid and random, can't compare to LoL's lore ,like wth are heroes like Johnson and paquito doing here ? They're doing it only because LoL and the other mobas also have lore,they are doing the lore so badly ,like their whole game. Plus most of the players aren't even interested in it or don't even know about it ,so Moneyton aren't focusing that much on it and that's sad , because it has potential.
Also , isn't MLA and MLBB's lores different?
@@nikolazabunov6797 nope ,happening in the same verse .
id say yve is stronger than zhask as the only reason she cant defeat him is because zhask keeps running away so that means she can definitely beat his whole swarm if he didnt run
Damnn xavier looking fire in the thumb nail🤑
Cyclops who handled the whole universe
Yup, he's so darn powerful that he got bored of his own universe and travelled to the land of dawn universe 😂
In short he is the most powerful
I always wanted this video, heroes acc to the lore, people discuss and argue on which heri better based on skill, mechanics and scaling forgetting it's just a mere nerfs and buffs thay will change sooner and later!
6:06 valentina as a statue behind the gusion
You have forgot about Minotaur which is at same level as Aldous. He is lasy Minotaur and his old power should be rank higher and be more rememberable. I'm that one lore guy and really thank you for doing this film.
Martis conquered 3000 worlds but zhask conquered millions of galaxies.
Ikr . Martis is the strongest character in mlbb according to the lore but also he is kinda feared even now. I remeber bacha when i joined hw was very feared character.
Add Nana cause Nana is Nana
A lore would be sick. Imagine if they added story mode
The top 7 is really so much arguable considering how each of them have broken ability. Argus who can solo and goes around soloing whole demon armies and now is immortal because of his sword which pretty much makes him invincible. Lunox who has probably the most broken ability to change fate. Yve and zhask who are planetary level. Also Yve is indeed strong than zhask because yve has defeated zhask but failed to kill him. Also zhask is running away from Yve. Also Yve is the one who keeps balance in the universe and destroys beings like zhask who posses threats to universe. Also there's Martis who has destroyed 3000 world. Also considering how Yve praised land of dawn for having strong heroes because of Aurora managing to beat weakened zhask. It's just that you can put anyone above others and it would still make sense. They just are bunch of heroes with broken ability.
Immortality is not the same as invincibility or indestructibility , they are very different from each other . Argus can still be defeated, he was in fact killed by hanzo bc hanzo is controlled by that sword of his which grants him the power to devour souls meaning he can kill argus , as his soul is not indestructible.
@@KaslanaTorijimanope hanzo didnt kill argus
There is no lore of that go read mlbb lore again go to hanzo
And tap story and read it there no thing as hanzo beating argus
also Imortallity meaning you cant die
You can be hurt but you simply cant die
@NE0312 tell me you're not lore invested without telling me you're not lore invested. Immortality is subjective in every aspect because everywhere it could be different, and in mlbb immortality gives you the ability to not die physically, your body can not die because it regenerates every wound almost instantly , but just because your body is immortal it does not mean you as a whole are immortal. The body is just a vessel. Anyone who can harm the soul/spirit can harm Argus and eventually kill him . Hanzo's sword Ame No Habakiri(probably spelling it wrong ) has the ability to devour souls, and in mla, which is the story mode of mlbb , hanzo and argus engaged in a duel , hanzo being the winner . And let's not forget that Argus's sword can be broken since it is not indestructible, and when that happens, Argus will lose his immortality. There are just so many other beings, entities, and gods that can kill argus easily.
@@KaslanaTorijima and MLA is a different universe lol so the story is not canon in mlbb verse and they just do these for fan service
I agreed the whole list because martis my fav hero is at number 1 😅🎉🎉
I'd rank Hanzo lower than Yu Zong, and swap Natan and Diggie (Diggie doesn't need a time machine to alter time).
I think Yve deserve 2nd, as Zhask is always escaping knowing he wont win against Yve. Zhask’s true potential came from his cockroaches or spawn, and these spawns need some time to hatch, I had read in zhask lore that he is hibernating preparing and increasing his spawns somewhere in the south of the land of dawn. And also, zhask was defeated by aurora who was rank lower than him, and that is because dont have those spawns yet in the land of dawn.
I feel like chang'e should be top 20 or sum bc shes a young immortal moon goddess who posesses magical powers and have expericene in karate/ku fu (was trained by the great dragon)
Number 1 by far is Nolan who is quite easily Universal, if not Multiversal. He was shown fighting the Calamity in the cinematics, which was stated multiple times in the lore to be a Cosmic threat of vast magnitude. And Nolan at some point absorbed it, then redirected its power to the other universes he has placed a portion of his soul into. He also had to traverse the multiverse in order to do so which was stated multiple times to be infinite, granting him infinite speed.
Shouldn't yu Zhong be ranked higher? like he's a dragon and defeated a evil God
He's the Embodiment of The Black dragon mortal enemy of
Lieh and it seems he is more powerful so right he should be higher
Argus laughing in the corner
IMMORTALITY OR DEAD
Martis mains be proud lmao
As a gato player i m so proud of him and legends never surrender 🔥
Saber can reach sound speed and also can wrap spacetime in half . He also very strong because in life he training until he become peak human , after that laboratory make him even stronger
What do you mean by that? Wrap space time in half?
@@dvyn3_dv3w14I think he confused himself by one of saber skins that can bend space time
Kazuki said we don't count skin lore specially for this reason. That's his legend skin lore .
I would like to see Joy on the list, she almost single-handedly prevented the abys storm
Hayabusa my favourite
Damn as a martis main I'm so proud of him😊😊😊😊.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Martis defeat the Last world not only because of his determination and training, but also because of Ashura's teeth?
Base of what i can remember of the story, Martis really struggled to defeat the 3000th world, but because of his determination to defeat it and never choosing to give up no matter how hard the world he manages to summon the Ashura's teeth and after many days and nights he finally claimed his victory.
And also isn't Gatot and Ashura clan (Martis clan lead by martis) enemies? And Gatot, got serious injuries in the last war and run, but after he Got the Gloves (forgot the name) he never lose a war again.
It means Gatot Won a war against Martis right?
(im telling this story base on my memory please correct me if im wrong)
Nah they were at stalemate
In the original Shadow puppet (Wayang Kulit) story. Both Gatot's gloves are actually his death uncles (Brajamusti and Brajadenta) which is Arimbi's (Gatot's mother) brothers. FYI Gatot's blood line is 1/4 Jawata (God), 1/4 Human, and 1/2 Rakshasa (equivilent as shura in ML lore).
Also Gatot has two half siblings which is.
-Antareja : Bima's first son, and also the grandson of Sang Hyang Antaboga (Snake god whose infinite in size) while gatot's can fly, Antareja can Ambles Bumi (Phasing through earth). So basically he can dive inside earth without any problem.
-Antasena : this is the most powerful son of Bima. His Aliases is Memaniking Jagad ( World's Finest Jewel). He can Fly, Ambles Bumi, and Live underwater as to live in land. He's so powerful that in Wayang kulit story, Bathara Guru ( the God of the God) can't even defeat him. As he once incite Chaos in kahyangan Suralaya (Heaven) by himself, because of the unjustified law of the gods. And no gods can defeat Antasena, until Semar (semar is secretly the most powerful being in Wayang Kulit cosmology) calms him down. The only one that match Antasena Prowess is his Cousin Wisanggeni. The only difference in Antasena is a bit air headed while Wisanggeni is cunning in mind.
Meanwhile chou, paquito, lapu, etc. :we are just humans after all
Many tanks are pretty strong in lore.
I agree with all the list except one, Alice. She might be defeated and all, but she is the Queen of Abbys, she is mentioned all over the lore. I think she deserve higher list
"3000 worlds and not a single worthy foe" Classic no new words can replace or beat these classic words of martis if moonton tried to chance the lines ✌
Nolan with the Calamity absorbed directly scales to Universal+ bare minimum.
Him travelling around the multiverse also grants him infinite speed.
You can argue for the other characters being stronger all you want because they've defeated Gods, but you need to take into account that those Gods are featless, and the scale of destruction they caused were never outright stated.
Zhask in the lore: planetary level
Zhask in the game: F tier mage(according to ml guide)
Nahh he is like atleast B tier
Kagura should be on the list because she was chosen by Seimei (now living in the umbrella as a spirit) ,who worked with the black dragon. Seimei saw the potential in Kagura when she was just a child to be the strongest being in Cadia Riverlands, to be entrusted to hold the power of hundred spirits.