This is actually a great tool, thank you for creating it. When people look to buy property, they can know the specific area and corresponding fire hazard.
Just another way for the state to take the wealth of the people and give to themselves. Grass to high, fine em. No damages, but I project there could have been damages.
If the regulations have text that require by law what you can and cannot have, use or do on your own property, that's never going to be defensible in my opinion. Dictating that you absolutely have to create fire breaks, remove trees and other plant life, etc is too far. Way too far. It is NOT the government nor taxpayer's property, it is yours alone, so it is not your neighbor's nor your government's place to dictate and control such things. That is inexcusable. That state is so intent on revoking rights and control away from us and it's getting to be infuriating. Essentially from what it sounds like, the government is becoming a state-wide HOA.
Yes heaven forbid they try and implement regulations to keep peoples property safe. Sometimes people are too dumb to keep defensible space around their house. If it didn’t affect other people, it wouldn’t be a concern, but it does.
I’ve been canceled by three different insurance companies just this year. They say yes we will cover you then they look at the fire map and see that you are in it. Then send you a letter saying sorry we can’t cover you.
Would be nice to see a large scale defensible space / firewire program that would sincerely reduce ignition risks, create a lot of jobs and lower political temperatures.
It seems to me that they needed MORE fire hazard categories, not fewer. Lets say we have 10 levels, then they could also guarantee that neighbors were only one level apart in 10 instead of 1 apart in 3.
Stupid question time - if this new 3-tier hazard rating can't be used for property insurances, then what's it's endterm large-scale societal value, esp after having already undergoing a multi-year reassessment to assumedly fix citizens real concerns over the initial process's invalid rate-scoring process that insurance companies would've sure frothed at the mouth and screwed over thousands of people with(all of which was also assumedly paid for by taxes)? I assume there may be a bigger purpose(environment, transport, climate change, etc) , I just don't understand it yet, based on how this was described 😅 so curiously inquiring
Creating the map is actually pointless and unnecessary. The various fire zones and their risks are already well known. Regulations don't need to be tailored to the particular piece of property, or the exact square foot. All this map does is provide lines for government to tinker with, details that insurers will (with a wink and a nod) pretend to ignore, and make excuses for the endless (and inevitable) cost and hassle that property owners will be forced to tolerate. This strikes me as a nuisance disguised as an improvement. .
Fire risk maps are doing nothing for property owners, just giving insurance companies a freebie to raise rates. Seems like the State is working for the insurance companies.
Maybe, just maybe, they should spend money on forrest management and not some stupid map.
And what restrictions are being placed on the government, federal and state, for managing the 52% of Oregon forest land "they" own?
Manage?
This is actually a great tool, thank you for creating it. When people look to buy property, they can know the specific area and corresponding fire hazard.
Just another way for the state to take the wealth of the people and give to themselves. Grass to high, fine em. No damages, but I project there could have been damages.
They can take their maps and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
If the regulations have text that require by law what you can and cannot have, use or do on your own property, that's never going to be defensible in my opinion. Dictating that you absolutely have to create fire breaks, remove trees and other plant life, etc is too far. Way too far. It is NOT the government nor taxpayer's property, it is yours alone, so it is not your neighbor's nor your government's place to dictate and control such things. That is inexcusable. That state is so intent on revoking rights and control away from us and it's getting to be infuriating. Essentially from what it sounds like, the government is becoming a state-wide HOA.
Yes heaven forbid they try and implement regulations to keep peoples property safe. Sometimes people are too dumb to keep defensible space around their house. If it didn’t affect other people, it wouldn’t be a concern, but it does.
I’ve been canceled by three different insurance companies just this year. They say yes we will cover you then they look at the fire map and see that you are in it. Then send you a letter saying sorry we can’t cover you.
This is going to affect insurance rates vs insurance companies to back out of the state, like it already haa been going in in California
False, property insurers do not use this information or map. They have their own.
Which just happens to mirror the state's map. It's irrelevant that they can't use the state's map to rationalize rates.
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Would be nice to see a large scale defensible space / firewire program that would sincerely reduce ignition risks, create a lot of jobs and lower political temperatures.
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It seems to me that they needed MORE fire hazard categories, not fewer. Lets say we have 10 levels, then they could also guarantee that neighbors were only one level apart in 10 instead of 1 apart in 3.
Maui, Paradise, Alameda. Melted car wheels, melted metal. We are next get a blue tarp on your roof.
Oh man.....I am planning to retire in oregon, now I'm having second thoughts 🤔
Stupid question time - if this new 3-tier hazard rating can't be used for property insurances, then what's it's endterm large-scale societal value, esp after having already undergoing a multi-year reassessment to assumedly fix citizens real concerns over the initial process's invalid rate-scoring process that insurance companies would've sure frothed at the mouth and screwed over thousands of people with(all of which was also assumedly paid for by taxes)?
I assume there may be a bigger purpose(environment, transport, climate change, etc) , I just don't understand it yet, based on how this was described 😅 so curiously inquiring
Creating the map is actually pointless and unnecessary. The various fire zones and their risks are already well known. Regulations don't need to be tailored to the particular piece of property, or the exact square foot. All this map does is provide lines for government to tinker with, details that insurers will (with a wink and a nod) pretend to ignore, and make excuses for the endless (and inevitable) cost and hassle that property owners will be forced to tolerate.
This strikes me as a nuisance disguised as an improvement.
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Fire risk maps are doing nothing for property owners, just giving insurance companies a freebie to raise rates. Seems like the State is working for the insurance companies.
They’re doing nothing for property owners that were refused to create defensible space on their homes or put on metal roofs.
Do they realize it will raise home owners insurance
False
Something for the insurance companies
Nope they use totally different maps.