Wow, I just did my 1 year review video of my 450RL and you took the words right outta my mouth! I feel like I'm in the minority whenever I said you don't need an ECU to ride the thing and service intervals while shorter than others is not that bad and worth the reliability in the long run. I think people are dumping them on the used market after throwing money at it because they think its a dual sport so it'll be easy to manage but forget that it's from a 450R and it's scaring them away in favor of something more mellow. Good stuff my friend!
WOW!! Great review. Finally, someone that tells the truth! My 2019 model will be in its third season of riding this year. It's completely stock, motor wise. Has more power than I use, but the strong bottom end and midrange come in very handy to loft the front wheel when needed. Ended up changing the chain at 1200 kms because it was kinking already. I reused the sprockets, but put a D.I.D. ERVT chain on. Radiator guards are a good idea too. I sometimes carry a fuel bladder if I need more range. I then have 13 litres, 300-350 km range, less off road. Again, excellent review! ❤
I got one a few months ago. Got the Vortex ECU, FMF Q4 with the header of the RX, Dunlop 606 tires and remove most of the crap I don't need (plastic covers, etc), put smaller mirrors, smaller LED turn lights. Right now the weight is 275lbs with a full tank of fuel. Originally it was 289lbs. Still heavier than a KTM but I have longer maintenance intervals and Honda reliability. 😉 Trying Metzeler or Pirelli tires next. Maybe it loose a few more pounds.
In one of those clips, were you riding Mormon well road at the DNWR? I've considered doing it on my 250L but I don't want to drive from centennial hills to the visitor center on 95 on my 250L. It doesn't have enough power 😂
Yes its Morman wells and some of Gass peak. Its only a mile maybe on the highway once you get past the golf course exit there's a trail off the highway just past that exit. I do that loop a lot.
You got lucky, great first pick. I have 50 years on bikes, started at 5. I have a 21 with 2500 miles on it. My KLR 650 is 130 lbs heavier and 10 hp less…. Both great bikes but cant beat the 450.
@@jeffmunro7638 I'm definitely loving the 450rl. About May 2021 picked it up, zero experience in the woods. I fell in love with riding trails, single track. Helps I got few buddies with alot of experience so i learned alot just in few months.
I’m on the east side of the state looking to get a bike for search and rescue to go up into the mountains with. Maybe putt around locally. I’m a little short so I’d have to lower it as well. What do you think?
Can anyone tell me if the previous year 450RL slip ons work with the 2023? Or if the “2019-2023” CRF 450 X/L/RL slip ons (or full exhaust) will actually work on the 2023? I’m getting conflicting answers everywhere and don’t want to have my buddy order one that ends up not fitting. Hard to find anything that specifically says it fits 2023 RL
I thimk the 22 and 23 are the exact same bikes. I cant confirm that a 19 is the same as a 23, but ill find out tomorrow and get back to you. Or you can call or email tacomoto with this question and mike will help you.
I bought the one piece header of the 450RX and put it in my 2023 450RL with a FMF Q4. The only reason I did it was price and that the FMF Powerbomb from what I have read were cracking at some of the welds.
Honest review, but the weight of the KTM's listed are always minus fuel. Add an IMS 3.2G full of premium and a 350/500 isn't SO much heavier than a CRF, especially when guys are getting the CRF under 280 with mods. You also forgot to add how GOOD the stock Showa forks and shock are compared to the KTM's split function forks. Converting the KTM forks is a common, albeit expensive mod which also adds weight. While it is not a expert trail/ enduro bike the CRF is still THE premier desert bike. They've owned it for years and wrote the book on it. Older, fast guys still love them to roost all over BDR/ TAT/ BLM roads with the confidence of a Honda under them.
Hat mir jemand nen Tipp wie man das irgendwie hinbekommt eine CRF 450R bzw. L oder X legal auf eine deutsche Straße zu bekommen ohne das man auf 25 oder auch 27 Ps kastriert wird? Müssen nicht die vollen 58 Ps sein aber wenigstens die 40Ps von der US Variante. Könnt ich mir auch mit ner CRF 300L vorstellen. Wer Rat weiß bzw. sich auskennt oder auch aufklären kann bitte melden.
@@MobMoto thanks. I also don't want to deal with maint or breakdowns. only thing I'm planning to do is oil, air filter and chain maint regularly. then tires and spark plug whenever they need it. don't want a needy bike. only ever owned yamaha, kawasaki and honda motos. currently have a 2006 WR250F and 2017 Honda AT. The bikes always run with little maint and hassle
Great vid Brotha, I was interested in the crf450 RL, but almost 2000.0 just to make it run correct on top of the almost 11,000 OTD price there's a lot of competition for 13k
The ktms are $2000 more and cost the same to open up and uncork them as well. The Honda is the same as the ktm in that they don't need mods but are a way better experience if you do.
The suspension is something like 10 million times more compiant than the frame. (Just a guess). Also, the engine is solidly bolted into the frame in at least 4 spots around the parimeter of the engine (see gusset plate). The engine isnt flexing anytime soon. Not sure where the frame is going to flex
the engines are all mounted the same on these bikes, ktm uses a steal frame and its known to flex more, the suspension is going to compensate for any frame flex not happening, but all of it has an effect on rider comfort and chassis performance. Just adjusting torque settings on the bolts mounting the engine has an effect on frame flex. Its also something a beginner rider is not gonna feel.
I was the same way. I followed Facebook pages of both bikes for a year and did a ton of research before I bought my 450l. Definitely made the right decision for me. And if your wondering what really made me pick the Honda was the reliability. Not saying the ktm wasn't reliable but it seemed like there was a lot more people complaining of problems on the ktm vs the Honda. Good luck with your pick and remember that whatever you go with it will most likely be fun.
Comfort is a big one. The Husq/KTM has an unbelievable amount of vibration. Your hands, feet, and ass will go numb very quick. I cannot imagine being on this bike for an hour or two on the road. Or even a full day at the trails. The Honda has a lot more vibration than something like a KLX250 or the other CRF bikes, but still a fraction of the Husq/KTM.
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Wow, I just did my 1 year review video of my 450RL and you took the words right outta my mouth! I feel like I'm in the minority whenever I said you don't need an ECU to ride the thing and service intervals while shorter than others is not that bad and worth the reliability in the long run.
I think people are dumping them on the used market after throwing money at it because they think its a dual sport so it'll be easy to manage but forget that it's from a 450R and it's scaring them away in favor of something more mellow.
Good stuff my friend!
My 2023 should be here in the next few weeks. Can't wait!
I absolutely love this bike and can't wait for next race season
Its all I want to ride! Lol
WOW!! Great review. Finally, someone that tells the truth! My 2019 model will be in its third season of riding this year. It's completely stock, motor wise. Has more power than I use, but the strong bottom end and midrange come in very handy to loft the front wheel when needed. Ended up changing the chain at 1200 kms because it was kinking already. I reused the sprockets, but put a D.I.D. ERVT chain on. Radiator guards are a good idea too. I sometimes carry a fuel bladder if I need more range. I then have 13 litres, 300-350 km range, less off road.
Again, excellent review! ❤
Thanks brother
Based on your POV my money is very well spent!🤙🏽 thanks for the vids man
I got one a few months ago. Got the Vortex ECU, FMF Q4 with the header of the RX, Dunlop 606 tires and remove most of the crap I don't need (plastic covers, etc), put smaller mirrors, smaller LED turn lights. Right now the weight is 275lbs with a full tank of fuel. Originally it was 289lbs. Still heavier than a KTM but I have longer maintenance intervals and Honda reliability. 😉
Trying Metzeler or Pirelli tires next. Maybe it loose a few more pounds.
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Good information. thanks
Did you make this vid for me? It's a BDR race horse... Effin A Cotton, Effin A!🤘👍
Buying 1!!! Yeah buddy!
I find it as good or better in every way than my KTM EXC 350. And now that I've done the suspension, ecu and pipe it's freakin' awesome.
I like my a bunch, but I guess it all depends on the type of riding we do.
In one of those clips, were you riding Mormon well road at the DNWR? I've considered doing it on my 250L but I don't want to drive from centennial hills to the visitor center on 95 on my 250L. It doesn't have enough power 😂
Yes its Morman wells and some of Gass peak. Its only a mile maybe on the highway once you get past the golf course exit there's a trail off the highway just past that exit. I do that loop a lot.
Have you had a chance to Dyno your bike after the GET and the Graves, and if so what did kind of HP/T did the bike put out?
I have not yet but i want to and probably will in the spring.
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Because flame out, stalling at low rpm is why can find deals online.
You're probably right. the $150 steahly flywheel weight is the fix for that.
Little heavy yes. My first dual sport so I'm glad that is all I know. I'm excited to do after market exhaust drop some lbs
thats a damn good first dual sport! congrtas
@@MobMoto absolutely, thanks bro. Enjoying every mile on road and the trail.
You got lucky, great first pick. I have 50 years on bikes, started at 5. I have a 21 with 2500 miles on it. My KLR 650 is 130 lbs heavier and 10 hp less…. Both great bikes but cant beat the 450.
@@jeffmunro7638 I'm definitely loving the 450rl. About May 2021 picked it up, zero experience in the woods. I fell in love with riding trails, single track. Helps I got few buddies with alot of experience so i learned alot just in few months.
@@Tr3nt9_ awesome man…..its my ptsd medicine
I’m on the east side of the state looking to get a bike for search and rescue to go up into the mountains with. Maybe putt around locally. I’m a little short so I’d have to lower it as well. What do you think?
The higher performance or premium dualsports are great for that purpose.
@@MobMoto my original idea was the 300 but i think it's lesser power even after being modded might be an issue.
@@Cyberviper8 Depends what type of riding. The Honda is good for the 6th gear, but If you're hard enduring id say ktm or 2 stroke
@@MobMoto its for search, i have to be able to hear yells and screams
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Can anyone tell me if the previous year 450RL slip ons work with the 2023? Or if the “2019-2023” CRF 450 X/L/RL slip ons (or full exhaust) will actually work on the 2023? I’m getting conflicting answers everywhere and don’t want to have my buddy order one that ends up not fitting. Hard to find anything that specifically says it fits 2023 RL
I thimk the 22 and 23 are the exact same bikes. I cant confirm that a 19 is the same as a 23, but ill find out tomorrow and get back to you.
Or you can call or email tacomoto with this question and mike will help you.
I bought the one piece header of the 450RX and put it in my 2023 450RL with a FMF Q4. The only reason I did it was price and that the FMF Powerbomb from what I have read were cracking at some of the welds.
Honest review, but the weight of the KTM's listed are always minus fuel. Add an IMS 3.2G full of premium and a 350/500 isn't SO much heavier than a CRF, especially when guys are getting the CRF under 280 with mods. You also forgot to add how GOOD the stock Showa forks and shock are compared to the KTM's split function forks. Converting the KTM forks is a common, albeit expensive mod which also adds weight. While it is not a expert trail/ enduro bike the CRF is still THE premier desert bike. They've owned it for years and wrote the book on it. Older, fast guys still love them to roost all over BDR/ TAT/ BLM roads with the confidence of a Honda under them.
Hat mir jemand nen Tipp wie man das irgendwie hinbekommt eine CRF 450R bzw. L oder X legal auf eine deutsche Straße zu bekommen ohne das man auf 25 oder auch 27 Ps kastriert wird?
Müssen nicht die vollen 58 Ps sein aber wenigstens die 40Ps von der US Variante.
Könnt ich mir auch mit ner CRF 300L vorstellen.
Wer Rat weiß bzw. sich auskennt oder auch aufklären kann bitte melden.
So whats the diff between just the l?
not much, name change and some fine tuning on the throttle response but really close to the same.
Currently deciding between ktm 350 excf and Honda 450rl
If youre doing mostly trail riding get the 350 if you're doing more two track, fire roads, and longer rides get the Honda
@@MobMoto thanks. I also don't want to deal with maint or breakdowns. only thing I'm planning to do is oil, air filter and chain maint regularly. then tires and spark plug whenever they need it. don't want a needy bike. only ever owned yamaha, kawasaki and honda motos. currently have a 2006 WR250F and 2017 Honda AT. The bikes always run with little maint and hassle
@@MisterQ007 I fancy the japanese bikes.
Great vid Brotha, I was interested in the crf450 RL, but almost 2000.0 just to make it run correct on top of the almost 11,000 OTD price there's a lot of competition for 13k
The ktms are $2000 more and cost the same to open up and uncork them as well. The Honda is the same as the ktm in that they don't need mods but are a way better experience if you do.
@@MobMoto what's your thoughts on the 350 EXCF
@@bradfuller1667 its pretty sweet for trail riding, its the lightest weight 4 stroke trail bike with a plate.
@@kakahshee actually I have ridden it and it's not impressive.
The suspension is something like 10 million times more compiant than the frame. (Just a guess). Also, the engine is solidly bolted into the frame in at least 4 spots around the parimeter of the engine (see gusset plate). The engine isnt flexing anytime soon. Not sure where the frame is going to flex
the engines are all mounted the same on these bikes, ktm uses a steal frame and its known to flex more, the suspension is going to compensate for any frame flex not happening, but all of it has an effect on rider comfort and chassis performance.
Just adjusting torque settings on the bolts mounting the engine has an effect on frame flex. Its also something a beginner rider is not gonna feel.
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Not the lightest ? Big deal
Im between this or the KTM 500!!! help!
I was the same way. I followed Facebook pages of both bikes for a year and did a ton of research before I bought my 450l. Definitely made the right decision for me. And if your wondering what really made me pick the Honda was the reliability. Not saying the ktm wasn't reliable but it seemed like there was a lot more people complaining of problems on the ktm vs the Honda. Good luck with your pick and remember that whatever you go with it will most likely be fun.
Comfort is a big one. The Husq/KTM has an unbelievable amount of vibration. Your hands, feet, and ass will go numb very quick. I cannot imagine being on this bike for an hour or two on the road. Or even a full day at the trails. The Honda has a lot more vibration than something like a KLX250 or the other CRF bikes, but still a fraction of the Husq/KTM.