Survival of Utah's Deer Herds After Winter of 2023
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The winter of 2022/23 has been extremely tough for wildlife, especially in northern Utah for our deer, elk and even moose. So in this episode, we going dive into some questions about Utah's deer survival. What parts of the state are doing okay? Which parts got hit hard? How's it looking? What about tag numbers for hunters? We talk to biologists, managers with the DWR, and even BYU professors to see what their data is showing them.
I get the deadhead pickup since it's the DWR/DNR, but why do they get to pick up a shed earlier than everyone else?
No kidding. "Rules for thee, not me."
Great video honestly some pretty good information!
They won't give up the money, tags will increase or more tags in the hard hit units, can't give up the dollar
67% herd loss, 2% cut in tags. Yup. That makes total sense
I don’t think that a drastic reduction in tags would make the impact that you think it would. I recommend that you read Mule Deer by Dennis Austin (USU). Bucks taken through the hunt makes little impact upon future population as long as they they keep doe-to-buck ratios around 18:1. The biggest negative impact upon mule deer populations in Utah has been loss of winter range.
The DWM (Division of Wildlife Mismanagement) only concern is the number of tags they can sell for revenue. If a herd is decimated by 60%, then you eliminate 90% of the tags to help it recover quicker. DWM uses bad winter as an excuse for years and years. The 1982-83 winter deaths were used as an excuse all the way until the 1990s bad winter. If you want to see real Wildlife management, look at the significant cuts Wyoming has made for this year. KSL Outdoors stop drinking the DWM Kool-Aid.
I disagree. I recommend that you read Mule Deer by Dennis Austin (USU). Bucks taken through the hunt makes little impact upon future population as long as they they keep doe-to-buck ratios around 18:1. The biggest negative impact upon mule deer populations in Utah has been loss of winter range.
If the DWR think we lost 60% this year they should cut 60% of the buck tags in Northern Utah. They won't though because they cut tags off a 3 year average.
I don’t think that a drastic reduction in tags would make the impact that you think it would. I recommend that you read Mule Deer by Dennis Austin (USU). Bucks taken through the hunt makes little impact upon future population as long as they they keep doe-to-buck ratios around 18:1. The biggest negative impact upon mule deer populations in Utah has been loss of winter range.
Respectfully, if more deer were killed would that not leave more food for the survivors? Instead of dying from malnutrition the heard would be sustainable.
Pine valleys deer herd is terrible!!!
I’ve lived in southern Utah for 42 years now and it’s no we’re near what it was in the 80’s and early 90’s Whatever numbers this man is going off are made up !!
Just because fawn survival rate was higher in Pine Valley this year still doesn’t mean the unit is out of the woods from the drought from the last several years…Tags need to be severely reduced during rifle season over the next 3-5 years just to get the unit to where it once was. I’m all about opportunity but we need quality as well. Taking away the extended archery was not a step in the right direction especially when it was limited to private land that few could get access to hunt.
What?
@@ChronicalsofAl you having a hard time reading what we said ?!?!?
Yet utah only took about 6000 deer tags out of the north and put them down south. Because they’d hate to loose some cash. I was watching this group of 5 deer in an area and 4 of 5 died of malnutrition. Found another 9 dead not to far from there in a small spot as well. be lucky to even find a deer in the north if you get a tag and with less deer people are gonna be more willing to shoot at anything. So RIP deer hunting in utah.
I don’t think that a drastic reduction in tags would make the impact that you think it would. I recommend that you read Mule Deer by Dennis Austin (USU). Bucks taken through the hunt makes little impact upon future population as long as they they keep doe-to-buck ratios around 18:1. The biggest negative impact upon mule deer populations in Utah has been loss of winter range.
Everyone needs to attend the regional rac meeting and let them know how unpleased we are with the jump in tags for the southern units. This is a money grab since the northern units are suffering. They are ignoring buck to doe objectives and giving out more tags
Hunting is ran like a casino here in Utah. They don’t take kindly to losing out on getting money when they can. They’ll just raise fees if they don’t reach their quota.
Not sure I agree. Bucks taken through the hunt makes little impact upon future population as long as they they keep doe-to-buck ratios around 18:1 (see Mule Deer by Dennis Austin (USU)). Are there areas where that ratio is below target? If so, which?
The key to muley populations has more to do with does, fawns, and winter range. Very little to do with the buck hunt.
😮😮😮 not good!! for northern and northeastern Utah!!
It's all about creating a facade of opportunities so we will apply and or purchase permits and continue to come home meatless
Need to get more elk off the landscape if we’re going to give our northern deer herds a fighting chance.
Thanks for putting this together 👍
You want to get rid of elk? That definitely isn't the answer bud.
@@apoult32 yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing the elk population knocked back a bit in Utah to help our deer out-along with lions, coyotes, and bears.
@@NevadaBeeMan-nq3po spent a lot of winters watching deer and elk on the winter range and 100% the elk displace the deer and on hard winters they’re all fighting for the same food. I’m not saying kill all the elk, but we can not have high elk and deer numbers at the same time-especially when a winter like this past one comes a long. The elk just outcompete the deer. I like hunting elk. I think there will be elk to be hunted in 100 years. I’m not so sure about our deer.
That is what has happened to our deer herds in Az. Plenty of elk and lack of deer is the result for the last 20-30 years. Bump up the elk tags a bit and way reduce the deer tags for 2-3 years and help out the deer population.
Central utahs deer are not on the rise, worst they have ever been. Time to clean out the dnr
I’ve hunted several years in Monroe and the deer herd has gotten substantially worse year after year. DNR is so out of touch with reality when it comes to general units…You can’t tell me LE units in the central and south areas are hurting and can have a few extra tags come available to balance out those that need to be cut from these northern units that were hit hard by the winter kill…
Maybe we should quit hunting deer and elk from late August until January. Deer populations were fine when we hunted them for 5 weeks a year. Now hunting in Utah last 5 months. How can they build fat to last the winter when they are constantly pressured. We could start this by allowing DWR and SFW to get a divorce. Multiple hunting organizations help. Only one mentioned in video. Why? Answer is politics.