The exact thing I was talking about . This RSGUY titles be haux 😅 whole time he speaking for himself plus the 1% not us real NORMAL PLAYERS 😂 but hey like every other game I'll accept the challenger of grinding and getting better
Don't know if I missed it but it's good to note that Eclipsed Soul's healing scales off max health unlike soul split so the healing will go harder as we add more armour/buffs that increases max hp.
So benefits from higher max HP and isn't tied to your damage dealt, feels a lot like this is probably going to be worth using even with necro for anyone trying to use the t90 rank armor for extra safety, with the damage boost would make up for the loss of dps from not using power armor and not having spit soul, but for people mostly looking for low effort boss kills could be an option. Not good for Rasial and maybe vorkath though because the zealots requirement conflicts with the need for salve amulet. but I know there are already a few methods that don't use salve amulet for vorkath on youtube so might still be goof there.
They called me a fool when i said zealots was coming back, but look at it now! Great video. I'm happy to see people using the normal prayer book again. Magic is lookin clean.
Interesting. It's worth noting that devs say future bosses will have very high defence like Nakatra to foster hit chance considerations. So it's unlikely this will be used for future content
not really a problem when you can just slap on a off style hammer and spec or have a team mate who leeches with necro and lord of bones....can even d scim spec if melee specificly.
I find most useful about this is that it can be just enough to sustain with a slayer task. I will definitely be using normal prayers during slayer tasks + zealot's necklace. I also use this for ranged since I'm not very good at prayer flicking so I don't bring ECB at bosses like HM Vorkath. Wen arrows helps remove the accuracy problem. If you want to kill Nomad and have some healing, this works. But I also found some problems with zealot necklace and Rigour swapping when swapping EoFs. With how quick prayers work, if you try to swap them in the middle of the fight, it will disable any existing protection prayers which I found very annoying. I ended up setting a protection prayer by default on top of it. With how limited quick prayers are, this is just very annoying to constantly edit. What if a boss has more than one protection prayers you need to use, that's even more annoying. Overall, I think it's a viable option if you're skilled enough to do it. But for the more casual side or those that despise flicking, curses will be better. You also lose out on deflect damage from deflect curses.
make a copy paiste acion bar and then just put normal prayers instead of cures and swap to that for one of your 4 extra bars when ever needed, you just use same keybinds that so not a issue(not a quick prayer user here as i never liked it from the start)
@@Nevervorago Goes to show how awkward the quick prayer system is. Limited 10 slots too for it. Suppose I can keybind every one of them but that's so many to keybind while curses, all you need is 1-2 or 1 quick prayer is all you need. I haven't even included protect item prayer.
There's a bit of an issue with the zealots example. With max melee you're at 2256 prior to aura, zealots being +21% puts you at 2729.8 assuming elder overload. With max melee using an Eof (or) you're at 2346 prior to aura, with malevolence being +12% puts you at 2627.5 assuming elder overload. These both assume T100. You'd gain approximately 102 damage or roughly ~3.8% damage. This sounds good but the meta right now is crit and EoF spec dump, which is true on all combat styles nil necromancy, and is always worth doing because your average EoF special attack is likely 2-3x the ability damage vs a basic or 1.5-2x a threshold. So zealots is still almost completely irrelevant after you get an EoF and any advantage it has is snuffed out on older bosses that have accuracy issues/nakatra due to curses continuing to sap your monsters stats ontop of eof just providing 3% accuracy boost. Melee and Magic having off ult bleed concepts also seems worth just camping SS for with survivability considering the prayer codex is worth more than just getting 92 prayer.
Hi, im new into Bossing. Im struggling with dps, i didnt know prayers were that important. Could you please make a full detailed video of what one should do while bossing for maxing dps?
So question. If you dont include level 99 curses (or assume everyone has all the 99 prayers). Would you would choose the to take the Normal prayers to buy or a 99 curses which would you chose? The reason i ask is just the cost difference is massive for a casual player Unless the comparision was between the level 95 curses (Turmoil, overload, Anguish) Since a set of 99 prayers cost upwards of 2.8B
after playing the game for years and just seeing the game get more difficult from a pvm stance, as somebody who cant pvm for their life, its nice to at least see you dont need max gear or anything for this prayer
If jagex keep doing this normal prayer will be good in future wish is also a good idea for does who can't have soul split curses i hope they add more stuff like this for normal or i'm wrong ^^?
I wish the healing buff wasn't a unique 6s HoT. I wish it was a stackable buff so if you get a bunch of crits in a row you basically get a burst of healing for a short time.
I wish you would have tossed on some tank hear and animate dead for mage. It shines pretty hard for the early game and even some extra later content. Makes hm kerry even easier and yeah best use case for the average player with 0 curses for sure
the only problem with it being viable is that the price of the eclipsed soul codex is gonna cost the same amount as just grinding to 95 prayer which means you'd be better off atleast getting curses and an xp return on investment as a newer account, rather than the a 250m ES codex and zero xp along with it.
@@TheFoolishnoobor or or.. now hear me out. Getting the codex as a drop and using it means you're not selling it and losing out on money that could be spent on 95 prayer
Exactly when’s the fsoa and tect that I paid a fortune for be actually worth something. Necro was a huge mistake. It didn’t bring any new players it just crashed the entire economy and made every boss a joke.
@@andrewdamico9632 I don't think necro was a mistake, it has really helped my non pvm friends get into pvm. I think the mistake is letting necro outperform the other combats. Because this only applies to mage, the devs just need to buff magic a lil. Combat changes were great, combat challenges are on the horizon, and the game has never been more fun to play imo.
@@Just_Lagging top end players=necro worste style, nooby-average pvmer=necro best style...everything definitly has it place its just that necro isnt fully fletched out with the 20years of gears/weapons/abilitys and more the 3other combat style has and is ironman friendly/easy to get close to bis and is cheap. its also a rather simple style due to the above statement. then again im not a fan of hybrid meta with 3diffrent amo swaps + off style crit ult rots or what not the good pvmers do nowaday. its really a prefference but ppl tend to make necro out to be better than it truely is....make some of the top 20pvmers in the game use all 4styles bis at any boss or dummy or what ever and it gets more clear but for the average player it will not be the same result.
One of the main problems with the game was slowly locking the ever-expanding meta behind increasingly boring questlines, tedious skills, and endgame bosses... like curses. They haven't learned anything.
(taken from wiki) To single-stat boosting standard prayers and to Leech Curses, the amulet increases the accuracy and defence gained from them by 10%, and raises their damage boost by a flat 10%. To demonstrate, if a player gained +100 accuracy, +100 defence, and a +6% damage boost from such prayers, the amulet of zealots would raise those values to +110 accuracy, +110 defence, and a +16% damage boost. Given the nature of these bonuses, with Leech Curses a damage boost of up to 18% can be gained, while standard prayers paired with Divine Rage can achieve a damage boost of up to 21%. Both of these damage bonuses significantly exceed even Malevolence, Desolation, Affliction and Ruination at 12%; however, the accuracy and defence gained under the amulet is poor (and the boosts take time to strengthen if using Leech Curses). Using the amulet also sacrifices the necklace slot and carries a high penalty to prayer drain. The amulet is most viable where the player has 100% accuracy/damage potential and is not concerned with the high prayer drain. With the standard prayer book, single-stat strength-boosting prayers can be used in conjunction with Divine Rage, increasing the damage boost from 16% to 21%, making them even more potent than Leech Curses.
(taken from wiki)Divine Rage is a prayer that requires level 85 Strength, Ranged, Magic, Necromancy, and Prayer to use. It is unlocked by reading a Divine Rage prayer codex. The prayer increases the user's Melee, Ranged, Magic, and Necromancy damage by 5%. Unlike most other damage-boosting prayers, Divine Rage can be used simultaneously with damage-boosting prayers that benefit the same style. For example, Divine Rage can be used with Piety.
The fact it's a rare drop from a skilling boss is enough for me to pass on it. I'd rather have guaranteed rewards from genuinely good quests over a 1/480 drop chance from a boss that gets stale after a dozen kills.
thats not true tho.....curses still does the same...and for most players ..i would say 95% will stick to curses. im not trying to downplay what is shown in the video but it it is niche and its completly useless for necro(and range if you own a ecb) for the average player soul split will be a much better choice at it feels more like a safety net and it works great with stuff like poision and reaver familiar at bosses like solak.
just make raids scaleable and rework little tuz. (raids was my first log and i havent been doing it sence i got it 4years ago) finding 9 other ppl today is almost imposible if ur not alredy in a big active pvm group....and by scaling i don't nesseserly mean make it easyer to do in a trio than it currently is for a 10man..just make it doable for the average guy with 3-5players. can even nerf loot if needed idk...
eclipsed soul is one of the biggest pvm noob traps in this game at 99% of pvm contexts youre overall better off with curses at any content where you need to pray flick it is absolute gigashit as its avg crit buff goes from 4% -> 3-> 2% etc a large majority of players will be better off training to 95 prayer as its not much more expensive, and they'll need to get curses unlocked at some point for high level content regardless
pretty sure both es and divine rage were designed to be more accessible for early prog players due to their lower level pray req and no quest reqs to unlock for mains, but most players will generally suffer from getting this prayer as they likely havent learned proper pray flicks yet, dont have crit builds etc at almost all high level content curses overall remain superior, esp with the weird interaction of zealots and eofs its just really really bad
average pvmer is really bad...so i guess thats normal? and i don't mean that as a insult..but 8/10 ppl will rely 99% on revo++ and afk stuff or almost put in no efort because thats how they want to play and they don't want to improve.
This is a nice Change, the regular I haven't used the regular prayer book since curses came out. I wish Jagex would rework how the "Luck" mechanic works in game, as it stand we they are used for less than 1 second on boss kills. I personally would trade off accuracy, defense and power, if wearing more luck items helped me get those drops I'm really after, this would decreased the "Grind" for certain items. For example is use any Tier of Luck for the entire fight maybe I get a tiny boost to the drop rate as opposed to only using it for 1 second after the fight. In a sense this could make it more challenging and rewarding to take on certain bosses. They don't have to drastically increase it but having over 1k boss kills on multiple time consuming bosses without getting the item you are after is just absolutely brutal.. I don't have to explain the grind to you, (your ambassador grind) but gearing up takes too much time and some of us just don't have the time, back in 06 when I started I had all the time in the world, now I'm lucky to be able to log in for more than 2-3 hours a week.
the accuracy loss from normal prayers kinda sucks, especially seeing as mage doesn't really have too many options to lowering defence of bosses except g-staff. another thing is, I don't want to have to re-do my action bar prayers if I switch from ranged or necro to mage or melee. I feel like there needs to be some quality of life changes there before I start actually using it.
you can allways bring your trusty hammer to spec. even tho you sacrifice some adren and possibly delay your rotation its not the biggest problem...and it will always hit now so works with mage also.
It's not in all cases. Accuracy determines damage also. It's strictly because the Amulet of Zealots AND Divine Rage. The free Salve amulet is BiS against the undead.
if you did see the video you see that this is niche and that 2 of the 4combat styles losses out on overall dps. alot of places you lose both sustain and hit chance=damage so its not worth to use it everywhere.
Jagex need to realise that buffing ranged/melee/magic will do nothing to foster an increased adoption from most players. The reality is, necromancy is so much DPS and safety for a casual amount of inputs that learning a different style that takes a PHD in ability bar mashing and switch scape to use effectively just doesn’t seem worth it for 99% of pvmers. Whilst I know the 1% of top tier pvmers will cry, the original three styles need a massive overhaul to make them in line with necromancy so that the majority of players don’t leave when necromancy becomes boring (already happening)
If you buff them enough you can get necro levels of dps without the phd or switches. You would need ALLOT of buffs… but regardless it would make casuals switch :D Those buffs would make the switch scape, full manuals players absolutely broken though.
@@learn2k0 You’re assuming I’m suggesting that Necro is boring? I’m not. I’m suggesting just using one style for a year straight is… Remove head from butt. It’ll help you gain oxygen for proper thinking
@@learn2k0 sagdgsadsga shift fsdahash 131162361 wow, so much skill gdsngnagnasod 131661 shift ctrl alt gsagsagsd, wow, this is so much fun, its not tedious sdagasdgas62632. Some elitist stuck in 2018 probably.
You're not wrong, I started playing way back in 08, dropped it, started up again in 2019 and rushed for curses and World Wakes and all the bossing STARTING POINT unlocks and was learning switches and my mage/range rotations but once I was able to clear Vindy consistently and got my first few Crassian kills I dropped again, came back for FSW, then finally came back a month ago. I've forgotten mage/range rotations and been focusing on leveling Necro, I'm all in on it, sold my ascensions, my nox and Inquisitor staff, and bought the omni guard, now I'm getting through hard mode Glacor with (relative) ease other than stumbling on mechanics here and there. Necro is practically brain dead for me other than staying on top of my stacks. And with passive vigour ring + passive pontifex I don't need to do all the ring switching, only switch I need to worry about is putting on my dwarf luck ring at the end of the kill lol
Man I hope jagex's UE5 project gets announced soon because if you people call these updates released in last 12 months cooking you all are on that dry oats diet.
Stop putting dev time into reviving prayers. Prayers already have their use, stepping stone for new players until they get curses. Brand new dead content and wasted boss drops.
lets not be haters, 4% crit its sound nice, I just hate rsguy because he asked few times openly devs to nerf fsoa. crits are good only with critbuilds, even newly balanced equilubrium aura necromancy is as good as max crit builds. defnlity I want more content that is good from begining. this eclipse prayer is like ezk, half baked thats need 5 new content to be good
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im dissapointed in your Ryan
i expected a 2 hour video of you just yapping so i can enjoy runescape while listening to your voice
jk
Dope vid as usual
Read this as “normal players” as if the general player base had improved 💀
Smh I did too haha
I was like "wait I got better?"
And here I read it that normal players went insane and are trying to do something dumb… like I know I am
same haha
The exact thing I was talking about . This RSGUY titles be haux 😅 whole time he speaking for himself plus the 1% not us real NORMAL PLAYERS 😂 but hey like every other game I'll accept the challenger of grinding and getting better
Don't know if I missed it but it's good to note that Eclipsed Soul's healing scales off max health unlike soul split so the healing will go harder as we add more armour/buffs that increases max hp.
Good note
So benefits from higher max HP and isn't tied to your damage dealt, feels a lot like this is probably going to be worth using even with necro for anyone trying to use the t90 rank armor for extra safety, with the damage boost would make up for the loss of dps from not using power armor and not having spit soul, but for people mostly looking for low effort boss kills could be an option. Not good for Rasial and maybe vorkath though because the zealots requirement conflicts with the need for salve amulet. but I know there are already a few methods that don't use salve amulet for vorkath on youtube so might still be goof there.
@@sceneCatgirl zealots would help with zemi(dragon skip) and possibly make hm skip consistent...altho idk how far from consistent that is atm.
@@TheRSGuydid you have a bonfire boost active while testing?
They called me a fool when i said zealots was coming back, but look at it now!
Great video. I'm happy to see people using the normal prayer book again. Magic is lookin clean.
All that needs to happen for Necro is a conjure that can crit and is affected by crit boosts
Love the short video! Good info in a short time is nice every once in a while
Interesting. It's worth noting that devs say future bosses will have very high defence like Nakatra to foster hit chance considerations. So it's unlikely this will be used for future content
not really a problem when you can just slap on a off style hammer and spec or have a team mate who leeches with necro and lord of bones....can even d scim spec if melee specificly.
It's nice to see the normal prayers regaining some love and attention, and I hope it will be given a few more new ones in later future 😊
I find most useful about this is that it can be just enough to sustain with a slayer task. I will definitely be using normal prayers during slayer tasks + zealot's necklace.
I also use this for ranged since I'm not very good at prayer flicking so I don't bring ECB at bosses like HM Vorkath. Wen arrows helps remove the accuracy problem. If you want to kill Nomad and have some healing, this works.
But I also found some problems with zealot necklace and Rigour swapping when swapping EoFs. With how quick prayers work, if you try to swap them in the middle of the fight, it will disable any existing protection prayers which I found very annoying. I ended up setting a protection prayer by default on top of it. With how limited quick prayers are, this is just very annoying to constantly edit. What if a boss has more than one protection prayers you need to use, that's even more annoying.
Overall, I think it's a viable option if you're skilled enough to do it. But for the more casual side or those that despise flicking, curses will be better. You also lose out on deflect damage from deflect curses.
make a copy paiste acion bar and then just put normal prayers instead of cures and swap to that for one of your 4 extra bars when ever needed, you just use same keybinds that so not a issue(not a quick prayer user here as i never liked it from the start)
@@Nevervorago Goes to show how awkward the quick prayer system is.
Limited 10 slots too for it. Suppose I can keybind every one of them but that's so many to keybind while curses, all you need is 1-2 or 1 quick prayer is all you need. I haven't even included protect item prayer.
Bro you should have way more subs you deserve that 😊
There's a bit of an issue with the zealots example.
With max melee you're at 2256 prior to aura, zealots being +21% puts you at 2729.8 assuming elder overload.
With max melee using an Eof (or) you're at 2346 prior to aura, with malevolence being +12% puts you at 2627.5 assuming elder overload.
These both assume T100.
You'd gain approximately 102 damage or roughly ~3.8% damage.
This sounds good but the meta right now is crit and EoF spec dump, which is true on all combat styles nil necromancy, and is always worth doing because your average EoF special attack is likely 2-3x the ability damage vs a basic or 1.5-2x a threshold. So zealots is still almost completely irrelevant after you get an EoF and any advantage it has is snuffed out on older bosses that have accuracy issues/nakatra due to curses continuing to sap your monsters stats ontop of eof just providing 3% accuracy boost.
Melee and Magic having off ult bleed concepts also seems worth just camping SS for with survivability considering the prayer codex is worth more than just getting 92 prayer.
Its a drop in the bucket, but the normal prayer book also has access to prayers to increase regeneration (i think the highest grants around 5k/min?)
Will be trying this soon ty
Hi, im new into Bossing. Im struggling with dps, i didnt know prayers were that important. Could you please make a full detailed video of what one should do while bossing for maxing dps?
Pvme website or discord has an ability priority list.
But in general. You build to an ult. Then dump thresh and wep specs. Then do it again
Just read the RS wiki
So question. If you dont include level 99 curses (or assume everyone has all the 99 prayers). Would you would choose the to take the Normal prayers to buy or a 99 curses which would you chose? The reason i ask is just the cost difference is massive for a casual player Unless the comparision was between the level 95 curses (Turmoil, overload, Anguish) Since a set of 99 prayers cost upwards of 2.8B
is there anyway you can re-do hm kerapac guide but with necromancy?
btw finally got my zuk cape with your guide thank you soo much.
gz in 99 on hardcore, just saw a notification in the world chat
Good man
after playing the game for years and just seeing the game get more difficult from a pvm stance, as somebody who cant pvm for their life, its nice to at least see you dont need max gear or anything for this prayer
yea but what about the drain rate and the long list of normal prayers that you had to activate?
math is off, t99 prayer boosts your stats by 12% by also drains them from the enemy. Which means 24% total damage buff
If jagex keep doing this normal prayer will be good in future wish is also a good idea for does who can't have soul split curses i hope they add more stuff like this for normal or i'm wrong ^^?
I don’t be watching the streams much but def enjoy the videos nice one!!
Thank you!
I wish the healing buff wasn't a unique 6s HoT. I wish it was a stackable buff so if you get a bunch of crits in a row you basically get a burst of healing for a short time.
Is this not usable with Piety?
Curious, will you be making a group iron?
He said he will.
Absolutely
@@TheRSGuy Awesome, not seen many content creators talk about it.
I wish you would have tossed on some tank hear and animate dead for mage. It shines pretty hard for the early game and even some extra later content. Makes hm kerry even easier and yeah best use case for the average player with 0 curses for sure
the only problem with it being viable is that the price of the eclipsed soul codex is gonna cost the same amount as just grinding to 95 prayer which means you'd be better off atleast getting curses and an xp return on investment as a newer account, rather than the a 250m ES codex and zero xp along with it.
will be supply vs demand...there is no way to know what it will cost in a year.
or or or.. now hear me out. You get the codex drop.
@@TheFoolishnoobor or or.. now hear me out. Getting the codex as a drop and using it means you're not selling it and losing out on money that could be spent on 95 prayer
This prayer effect should have just been an effect added to tectonic, or even the passive to fsoa itself.
Exactly when’s the fsoa and tect that I paid a fortune for be actually worth something. Necro was a huge mistake. It didn’t bring any new players it just crashed the entire economy and made every boss a joke.
@@andrewdamico9632 I don't think necro was a mistake, it has really helped my non pvm friends get into pvm. I think the mistake is letting necro outperform the other combats. Because this only applies to mage, the devs just need to buff magic a lil. Combat changes were great, combat challenges are on the horizon, and the game has never been more fun to play imo.
@@Just_Lagging top end players=necro worste style, nooby-average pvmer=necro best style...everything definitly has it place its just that necro isnt fully fletched out with the 20years of gears/weapons/abilitys and more the 3other combat style has and is ironman friendly/easy to get close to bis and is cheap. its also a rather simple style due to the above statement. then again im not a fan of hybrid meta with 3diffrent amo swaps + off style crit ult rots or what not the good pvmers do nowaday. its really a prefference but ppl tend to make necro out to be better than it truely is....make some of the top 20pvmers in the game use all 4styles bis at any boss or dummy or what ever and it gets more clear but for the average player it will not be the same result.
One of the main problems with the game was slowly locking the ever-expanding meta behind increasingly boring questlines, tedious skills, and endgame bosses... like curses. They haven't learned anything.
just got a 1min10sec unskippable WoW add on this video.. lmao
how is normal prayers with mage at aod?
@@im_snoopyrs8947 good
What a great showcase of the healing and how normal prayers are coming back
You cooked with this video for sure
Nerf soul-split, that shit has been overpowered for 10 years now.
how much difference does the zealots make to this vs just wearing eof?
(taken from wiki) To single-stat boosting standard prayers and to Leech Curses, the amulet increases the accuracy and defence gained from them by 10%, and raises their damage boost by a flat 10%. To demonstrate, if a player gained +100 accuracy, +100 defence, and a +6% damage boost from such prayers, the amulet of zealots would raise those values to +110 accuracy, +110 defence, and a +16% damage boost.
Given the nature of these bonuses, with Leech Curses a damage boost of up to 18% can be gained, while standard prayers paired with Divine Rage can achieve a damage boost of up to 21%. Both of these damage bonuses significantly exceed even Malevolence, Desolation, Affliction and Ruination at 12%; however, the accuracy and defence gained under the amulet is poor (and the boosts take time to strengthen if using Leech Curses). Using the amulet also sacrifices the necklace slot and carries a high penalty to prayer drain. The amulet is most viable where the player has 100% accuracy/damage potential and is not concerned with the high prayer drain.
With the standard prayer book, single-stat strength-boosting prayers can be used in conjunction with Divine Rage, increasing the damage boost from 16% to 21%, making them even more potent than Leech Curses.
wait i thought zealots only worked if the prayer only boosts 1 attack style?
(taken from wiki)Divine Rage is a prayer that requires level 85 Strength, Ranged, Magic, Necromancy, and Prayer to use. It is unlocked by reading a Divine Rage prayer codex. The prayer increases the user's Melee, Ranged, Magic, and Necromancy damage by 5%.
Unlike most other damage-boosting prayers, Divine Rage can be used simultaneously with damage-boosting prayers that benefit the same style. For example, Divine Rage can be used with Piety.
I'm still going to intentionally pronounce zealots wrong.
Do you mean wrong as in “zeal ot” which is actually wrong, or “zeh luht” which is legitimately correct in American and British pronunciations?
@@CreativeExcusesGaming zeal-lots
This is crazy (Really)
happy I got it before I lost membership
The power creep looks so funny when you don't play RS anymore. 😂
The fact it's a rare drop from a skilling boss is enough for me to pass on it.
I'd rather have guaranteed rewards from genuinely good quests over a 1/480 drop chance from a boss that gets stale after a dozen kills.
More power creep and no good bosses to use it at. Sick
All that grinding for my curse prayers just for it to be not as valuable anymore
thats not true tho.....curses still does the same...and for most players ..i would say 95% will stick to curses. im not trying to downplay what is shown in the video but it it is niche and its completly useless for necro(and range if you own a ecb) for the average player soul split will be a much better choice at it feels more like a safety net and it works great with stuff like poision and reaver familiar at bosses like solak.
the rsguy can we convince jagex to make yakamaru solo-able again
just make raids scaleable and rework little tuz. (raids was my first log and i havent been doing it sence i got it 4years ago) finding 9 other ppl today is almost imposible if ur not alredy in a big active pvm group....and by scaling i don't nesseserly mean make it easyer to do in a trio than it currently is for a 10man..just make it doable for the average guy with 3-5players. can even nerf loot if needed idk...
@@Nevervorago agreed!
4:42 “Normal Curses are absolutely back!”. Woohoo! Lol
eclipsed soul is one of the biggest pvm noob traps in this game
at 99% of pvm contexts youre overall better off with curses
at any content where you need to pray flick it is absolute gigashit as its avg crit buff goes from 4% -> 3-> 2% etc
a large majority of players will be better off training to 95 prayer as its not much more expensive, and they'll need to get curses unlocked at some point for high level content regardless
pretty sure both es and divine rage were designed to be more accessible for early prog players due to their lower level pray req and no quest reqs to unlock for mains, but most players will generally suffer from getting this prayer as they likely havent learned proper pray flicks yet, dont have crit builds etc
at almost all high level content curses overall remain superior, esp with the weird interaction of zealots and eofs
its just really really bad
Crazy my man said he doesnt kniw what he's doing at solak 🤣🤣
Literally seen him run it 100 times 😂😂
It's been a while!
@TheRSGuy always struggle when I go back to boss after a while !
Define normal
average pvmer is really bad...so i guess thats normal? and i don't mean that as a insult..but 8/10 ppl will rely 99% on revo++ and afk stuff or almost put in no efort because thats how they want to play and they don't want to improve.
MTX necro skilling outfit? Tf is going on?
Only thing I gotta say is EOF
EoF swap is pain
Make melee great again!!!!!!
sad part is ranged and necro require curse. since split soul
Yeah but most serious high level pvmers have curses so it’s totally fair and viable
This is a nice Change, the regular I haven't used the regular prayer book since curses came out.
I wish Jagex would rework how the "Luck" mechanic works in game, as it stand we they are used for less than 1 second on boss kills. I personally would trade off accuracy, defense and power, if wearing more luck items helped me get those drops I'm really after, this would decreased the "Grind" for certain items. For example is use any Tier of Luck for the entire fight maybe I get a tiny boost to the drop rate as opposed to only using it for 1 second after the fight. In a sense this could make it more challenging and rewarding to take on certain bosses. They don't have to drastically increase it but having over 1k boss kills on multiple time consuming bosses without getting the item you are after is just absolutely brutal.. I don't have to explain the grind to you, (your ambassador grind) but gearing up takes too much time and some of us just don't have the time, back in 06 when I started I had all the time in the world, now I'm lucky to be able to log in for more than 2-3 hours a week.
Ryan trippling the prices of eclipse codex in a couple hours
So, you'rê têlling mê... normal prayêrs go BRRRR? 🤔
I read "Normal Players" and felt attacked for a second...
U ignored me when I saw u farming blood of orcus during porter event 😭😭😭
he probly has 50+ ppl saying stuff to him dailie...maybe he has public off or was just afking....i would turn public off at times myself tbh.
the accuracy loss from normal prayers kinda sucks, especially seeing as mage doesn't really have too many options to lowering defence of bosses except g-staff.
another thing is, I don't want to have to re-do my action bar prayers if I switch from ranged or necro to mage or melee. I feel like there needs to be some quality of life changes there before I start actually using it.
you can allways bring your trusty hammer to spec. even tho you sacrifice some adren and possibly delay your rotation its not the biggest problem...and it will always hit now so works with mage also.
I'm sorry a 99 tier prayer should not he out damaged by a normal prayer this is bs
It's not in all cases. Accuracy determines damage also. It's strictly because the Amulet of Zealots AND Divine Rage. The free Salve amulet is BiS against the undead.
if you did see the video you see that this is niche and that 2 of the 4combat styles losses out on overall dps. alot of places you lose both sustain and hit chance=damage so its not worth to use it everywhere.
Jagex need to realise that buffing ranged/melee/magic will do nothing to foster an increased adoption from most players.
The reality is, necromancy is so much DPS and safety for a casual amount of inputs that learning a different style that takes a PHD in ability bar mashing and switch scape to use effectively just doesn’t seem worth it for 99% of pvmers.
Whilst I know the 1% of top tier pvmers will cry, the original three styles need a massive overhaul to make them in line with necromancy so that the majority of players don’t leave when necromancy becomes boring (already happening)
How would making all styles boring fix that issue lol?
If you buff them enough you can get necro levels of dps without the phd or switches. You would need ALLOT of buffs… but regardless it would make casuals switch :D
Those buffs would make the switch scape, full manuals players absolutely broken though.
@@learn2k0 You’re assuming I’m suggesting that Necro is boring? I’m not. I’m suggesting just using one style for a year straight is…
Remove head from butt. It’ll help you gain oxygen for proper thinking
@@learn2k0 sagdgsadsga shift fsdahash 131162361 wow, so much skill gdsngnagnasod 131661 shift ctrl alt gsagsagsd, wow, this is so much fun, its not tedious sdagasdgas62632.
Some elitist stuck in 2018 probably.
You're not wrong, I started playing way back in 08, dropped it, started up again in 2019 and rushed for curses and World Wakes and all the bossing STARTING POINT unlocks and was learning switches and my mage/range rotations but once I was able to clear Vindy consistently and got my first few Crassian kills I dropped again, came back for FSW, then finally came back a month ago. I've forgotten mage/range rotations and been focusing on leveling Necro, I'm all in on it, sold my ascensions, my nox and Inquisitor staff, and bought the omni guard, now I'm getting through hard mode Glacor with (relative) ease other than stumbling on mechanics here and there. Necro is practically brain dead for me other than staying on top of my stacks. And with passive vigour ring + passive pontifex I don't need to do all the ring switching, only switch I need to worry about is putting on my dwarf luck ring at the end of the kill lol
Literaly the perk is useless ahha dont waste your time
mod smurf
you talk so zesty
Man I hope jagex's UE5 project gets announced soon because if you people call these updates released in last 12 months cooking you all are on that dry oats diet.
Stop putting dev time into reviving prayers. Prayers already have their use, stepping stone for new players until they get curses. Brand new dead content and wasted boss drops.
lets not be haters, 4% crit its sound nice, I just hate rsguy because he asked few times openly devs to nerf fsoa. crits are good only with critbuilds, even newly balanced equilubrium aura necromancy is as good as max crit builds. defnlity I want more content that is good from begining. this eclipse prayer is like ezk, half baked thats need 5 new content to be good
Says he cooked with a 2 min raksha rofl. Necro sub 2s there and range you can get close to 1 min
Okay, so ranged and necro are better at Raksha. This isn't a video about that, though, it's about Eclipsed Soul.
Man's haven't had fun since
You sound like you have a lot of fun playing RuneScape
@@TheRSGuytake it easy on the poor guy, he wasn’t seen daylight in years.
Bro's so focused on effiencinecy he's forgotten how to have fun