I graduated from Williams in the late 90s. Be prepared for the majority of normal people to not know anything about your school or that it offers an ivy equivalent education. Admissions officers at grad schools will know, so if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, professor thats not a concern. However, if you want to work in the "real world" without attending grad school, this is when it becomes more problematic. Finance jobs in New York will be aware of the top liberal arts colleges, but most other industries won't. I worked in Los Angeles in the entertainment industry (talent agent) after college, and no one had heard of Williams.
While a "liberal arts college" is an actual, specific thing in the US, this video is based on incorrect information. What you call traditional universities also teach a liberal arts curriculum. A liberal arts college is just smaller and often privately funded/more expensive to attend. No matter what type of school you attend, all the general education requirements that you have to take in order to earn a bachelor's degree ARE the liberal arts curriculum. It's simply not true that a university that awards both undergrad and grad degrees is not also liberal arts-based. The entire model of higher education in the US is based on the liberal arts.
Lydia, respectfully, you are mistaken. There are significant differences between a liberal arts college and research universities (national colleges in this video and many sites, such as U.S. News). You may be referencing research universities that have a liberal arts major where there are fewer requirements. Liberal Arts colleges, have smaller classes, faculty that focus on teaching more than publishing, etc. Many liberal arts colleges (Williams, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Vassar, etc.) also require students to live on campus all four years (I don't think Union has that housing requirement). Liberal arts colleges are great for students who thrive in seminars and would want a lot of professor office hours, compared to lecture centers and faculty who are in a publish or perish mode. The elite liberal arts schools listed above often require faculty to have at least as many office hours as hours they teach. For example, if a professor instructs two three-credit classes, they must have six hours of office hours. Having recently toured schools with my son, professors greet the students by name while crossing campus. My son attended a class at each liberal arts college he visited. The professors accommodated his request to attend, nearly all invited him to their office before or after class, a couple had lunch with him. Another example, 40% Haverford College faculty live in homes on campus, although this is an outlier. That level of interaction is nearly unheard of at national/research colleges. These schools aren't for everyone, but they certainly fit how some students learn best.
"all the general education requirements that you have to take in order to earn a bachelor's degree ARE the liberal arts curriculum." No, sorry. Liberal arts curriculum is so much more than Gen Ed classes. True. All student in both large universities and small liberal arts colleges must take Gen Ed classes as general foundation, though liberal arts schools set the standard higher, i.e. minimum college math may be calculus or pre-calculus. The purpose and goals of liberal arts education is beyond just taking Gen Ed classes. Mr. Nawaz's video does a good job of outlining the distinctions.
I married into the Nott Potter clan. Union was the first school my daughter visited. We also visited Hobart, where he was president later. She didn’t apply to either of them.
Your thumbnail has a bit of a faux pas showing the Williams College seal in front of Johnson Chapel at Amherst College...and before you ask if it really matters ask a Williams or a Amherst alumnus and see the response you get.
Liberal arts colleges (LA) tend to have very high endowments on a per student basis. Their merit and financial need packages are generous. My son received offers of $120,000 to $180,000 from two mid-upper tier LA schools before he even applied. Almost nobody pays the full load. Strong students and those with limited means may find that an excellent LA school is around the same price as tuition to an out-of-state state school.
As I prepare to soon send my kid off to Swarthmore College (a small school in Pennsylvania you've likely not heard of 🙂), I very much appreciate this video!
Dear azir! I am studying toward Williams College. I want to enter medical school after graduation. Which medical schools do most Williams Pre-Med graduates enter? I wonder if many applicants get into top medical schools. Sincerely
While I haven't looked at which med schools Williams students enter, the Physics dept. has a blog on which engineering grad schools the "pre-engineering" physics students go on to, which includes columbia, princeton, stanford, harvard etc... The level that Williams is at will absolutely enable you to go to top-medical schools.
Love the clarity with which you spoke. No uh and ahhs…like. You will be a far more interesting doctor since u can talk about other things other than medicine!
A fact is a substantial amount of high school graduates are skipping college and finding jobs in the trades. The money is lucrative, the need is substantial . The high cost of college , combined with high college costs , makes training for high paying jobs more future friendly.
The University system has liberal arts built in and is based on it. For example the very large, 40k student body University of WA, allows one to choose a major the last quarter of their sophmore year. So, that comment was not factual or accurate. Brandeis is an example of a highly diverse liberal arts college, so thats another discrepancy or false factoid from this video. All of the benefits named of attending a liberal arts college are the same for any traditional University. 😊
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I graduated from Williams in the late 90s. Be prepared for the majority of normal people to not know anything about your school or that it offers an ivy equivalent education. Admissions officers at grad schools will know, so if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, professor thats not a concern. However, if you want to work in the "real world" without attending grad school, this is when it becomes more problematic. Finance jobs in New York will be aware of the top liberal arts colleges, but most other industries won't. I worked in Los Angeles in the entertainment industry (talent agent) after college, and no one had heard of Williams.
so real
While a "liberal arts college" is an actual, specific thing in the US, this video is based on incorrect information. What you call traditional universities also teach a liberal arts curriculum. A liberal arts college is just smaller and often privately funded/more expensive to attend. No matter what type of school you attend, all the general education requirements that you have to take in order to earn a bachelor's degree ARE the liberal arts curriculum. It's simply not true that a university that awards both undergrad and grad degrees is not also liberal arts-based. The entire model of higher education in the US is based on the liberal arts.
Lydia, respectfully, you are mistaken. There are significant differences between a liberal arts college and research universities (national colleges in this video and many sites, such as U.S. News). You may be referencing research universities that have a liberal arts major where there are fewer requirements. Liberal Arts colleges, have smaller classes, faculty that focus on teaching more than publishing, etc. Many liberal arts colleges (Williams, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Vassar, etc.) also require students to live on campus all four years (I don't think Union has that housing requirement). Liberal arts colleges are great for students who thrive in seminars and would want a lot of professor office hours, compared to lecture centers and faculty who are in a publish or perish mode. The elite liberal arts schools listed above often require faculty to have at least as many office hours as hours they teach. For example, if a professor instructs two three-credit classes, they must have six hours of office hours. Having recently toured schools with my son, professors greet the students by name while crossing campus. My son attended a class at each liberal arts college he visited. The professors accommodated his request to attend, nearly all invited him to their office before or after class, a couple had lunch with him. Another example, 40% Haverford College faculty live in homes on campus, although this is an outlier. That level of interaction is nearly unheard of at national/research colleges. These schools aren't for everyone, but they certainly fit how some students learn best.
"all the general education requirements that you have to take in order to earn a bachelor's degree ARE the liberal arts curriculum." No, sorry. Liberal arts curriculum is so much more than Gen Ed classes. True. All student in both large universities and small liberal arts colleges must take Gen Ed classes as general foundation, though liberal arts schools set the standard higher, i.e. minimum college math may be calculus or pre-calculus. The purpose and goals of liberal arts education is beyond just taking Gen Ed classes. Mr. Nawaz's video does a good job of outlining the distinctions.
@@barry1863 you said it perfectly well
Lots of top liberal art colleges are research institutes
hey thanks. Lil tip: the subtitles weren't the most accurate. Maybe you can work on it? Helpful video tho :)
Excellent video! You described the pros and cons critically and from multiple criterias.
buddy loves that drone nott shot
I married into the Nott Potter clan. Union was the first school my daughter visited. We also visited Hobart, where he was president later. She didn’t apply to either of them.
that intro gave me goosebumps 😵💫
I kept thinking I forgot to turn off times two speed lmao
Your thumbnail has a bit of a faux pas showing the Williams College seal in front of Johnson Chapel at Amherst College...and before you ask if it really matters ask a Williams or a Amherst alumnus and see the response you get.
2:35-2:50 is so real 🥲 #relatable
This video should be watched by every HS senior!
Liberal arts colleges also cost 3-4x higher than most traditional public schools as well. Steep price to pay.
Liberal arts colleges (LA) tend to have very high endowments on a per student basis. Their merit and financial need packages are generous. My son received offers of $120,000 to $180,000 from two mid-upper tier LA schools before he even applied. Almost nobody pays the full load. Strong students and those with limited means may find that an excellent LA school is around the same price as tuition to an out-of-state state school.
@@barry1863 nice
Financial aid.
@@anthonytesla8382 borrowed money? High Payments right after school for same income from state school? No thanks.
My ba in history has come in handy in my retail career
As I prepare to soon send my kid off to Swarthmore College (a small school in Pennsylvania you've likely not heard of 🙂), I very much appreciate this video!
I got rejected from Swarthmore this cycle. Congrats to your kid🎉
A former acquaintance of mine went to Swarthmore. He ended up owning a diving business.
Cool campus
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That’s a pretty good school!
very fair!
Dear azir!
I am studying toward Williams College. I want to enter medical school after graduation.
Which medical schools do most Williams Pre-Med graduates enter?
I wonder if many applicants get into top medical schools.
Sincerely
While I haven't looked at which med schools Williams students enter, the Physics dept. has a blog on which engineering grad schools the "pre-engineering" physics students go on to, which includes columbia, princeton, stanford, harvard etc... The level that Williams is at will absolutely enable you to go to top-medical schools.
Love the clarity with which you spoke. No uh and ahhs…like.
You will be a far more interesting doctor since u can talk about other things other than medicine!
W vid
good, informative video - thank you!
A fact is a substantial amount of high school graduates are skipping college and finding jobs in the trades. The money is lucrative, the need is substantial . The high cost of college , combined with high college costs , makes training for high paying jobs more future friendly.
The University system has liberal arts built in and is based on it. For example the very large, 40k student body University of WA, allows one to choose a major the last quarter of their sophmore year. So, that comment was not factual or accurate. Brandeis is an example of a highly diverse liberal arts college, so thats another discrepancy or false factoid from this video. All of the benefits named of attending a liberal arts college are the same for any traditional University. 😊