UPDATE: I FINALLY just got the Iben Fahd's Tenacity today. 8/28/2022! I've done this every day since launch at least the first room and occasionally other rooms with at least the one full clear. So it took almost 3 full months for me to get the drop. I hope you guys have better luck!
Hi, I made the calculation and basically there are 4 rooms - in the first room, the materials per key ratio is 5.33. In the other 3 rooms, it's lower but the same, 4.50. So, there is no point in saving keys, just do the first room every day, but whenever you stack up on keys and feel like spending them, just freely do whatever number of chests you can open, as there is no real benefit in clearing the whole Sanctum, except getting additional XP and potentially items from blue and yellow mobs guarding the Sanctum. And yeah, the "bonus" chest is not really the bonus, as when you open it, you get again the same materials per key (4.5) when combined with the last (19th) chests you opened. As basically the 19th (last) chest gives the least materials per key - 4.05, the bonus chest is really there only to give a fake feeling of getting something additional :)
Watched your video frame by frame and determined the efficiency of each chest, so thanks very much for including a full run here, it was very helpful. Looks like all the boxes in the first room are 5.0 key-to-stone efficiency, then every other box in the other rooms are only 4.5 with the exception of the very last one which is only 4.05. If you calculate the running efficiency of each chest, the numbers show that the first room starts at infinity (because the first one is free) and then the second comes in at 10, ending in the 5th being 5.33 stones/key. Then the rest of the rooms decline at an even rate in running efficiency to 4.65, 4.56, and last room is only 4.49. Adding in the 18 you get from the bonus chest, brings total clear efficiency to 4.53 stones/key. Also, if you're looking for that tenacity vessel, the early chests are less keys/chest which means you will be able to open more chests with the same number of keys than if you try to save them up. Assuming all chests have an equal drop rate for the vessel (which we don't really know) then opening daily is more efficient in that way as well. So TLDR: if you just clear the first room every day, you'll get about 5.33 stones for every key. If you save up for a full clear, you'll only get 4.53 stones for every key which is almost 1 whole less stone per key! So clear the first room every day people! It's way better for you.
Thanks for this! Since this video recording I still haven't got it but i've been opening the first room most days while throwing in the second room once in a while if my key total gets high-ish. I think you are right though the first room seems like the way to go for sure. Really good info here!
Also note this makes sense due the currency of time so to speak. Since you can buy keys giving less vessels per key curbs the reward for the amount of vessels collected per day over time. Yes you get a better key to vessel ratio clearing the first room daily but if you pay you essentially get more vessels per day,. There is an increased cost per key and to your wallet for that convenience. Also it's lose lose just saving f2p keys due to time not not clearing the first room while you save them. Maybe it's a little better for your time but definitely not for the key cost per vessel.
thank you for the video, also for a lot people who don't know the most efficient floor is the first floor as its a 5 resource to 1 key ratio. Later floors it is not as efficient..around 4.5 resources per key
Fahd's Tenacity is a facade. Uhm, but it's kinda lame how they'd gate something so important like this to a super lucky RNG drop. I think doing a full clear should give it to you. Also kinda funny the bonus chest drops like 10. Woah now.
But it does cost something don't remember the type if it's orbs or whatever to open crates, chests...if you don't have those then you'll have to spend cash to aquire them.
i can't believe it i just watched the video and logged in game then went into the sanctum and and i got it in first chest in second room😅 but what does it do?
I never got it I did a whole clear lol did it one time only from grinding an pay just a little made sure it wasn’t too much. But I’m just saving the keys up now
Yeah its not guaranteed at all. In this video I did a full clear and didn't get it. I actually still haven't got it and this was recorded weeks ago! rip
@@nerelco that is true. It’s sometimes a more efficient way to get an answer. Also I have a newborn at home and watching a whole video with sound isn’t alway possible.
Hello, I have done this 8 times completely with 360 keys, but I still haven't managed to get it, is there a special way to get it? Barbarian class level 400
I got it on my 4th total chest opening. I was like woah, what’s this… lol How do you get hundreds of keys, I only have like 100 after a month? I must be missing something.
Hi, I got 325 keys right now in 2 weeks. Buy 5 from the Hilts trader and 4 from the Sanctum. Also, if you are a shadow there's a blessing in which you can get 1 key per elder rift run (max 3). A total of 12 a day. The rest of the keys I got are from the events.
Damn! Yeah I've seen some people get it at like Paragon 3 but I don't have it yet at 44 and someone 50 in our guild also still doesn't have it! I guess some of us are just mega unlucky.
So you’re meaning to tell I got lucky on my main account when it dropped? Lol that’s shitty lol I don’t want to spend 377 keys just for it not to drop 😢
Nope! Not yet, sadly. I've done the first room every day since launch and a bunch of other random rooms outside of that when I have the keys for it. Still nothing.
UPDATE: I FINALLY just got the Iben Fahd's Tenacity today. 8/28/2022! I've done this every day since launch at least the first room and occasionally other rooms with at least the one full clear. So it took almost 3 full months for me to get the drop. I hope you guys have better luck!
Hi, I made the calculation and basically there are 4 rooms - in the first room, the materials per key ratio is 5.33. In the other 3 rooms, it's lower but the same, 4.50. So, there is no point in saving keys, just do the first room every day, but whenever you stack up on keys and feel like spending them, just freely do whatever number of chests you can open, as there is no real benefit in clearing the whole Sanctum, except getting additional XP and potentially items from blue and yellow mobs guarding the Sanctum.
And yeah, the "bonus" chest is not really the bonus, as when you open it, you get again the same materials per key (4.5) when combined with the last (19th) chests you opened. As basically the 19th (last) chest gives the least materials per key - 4.05, the bonus chest is really there only to give a fake feeling of getting something additional :)
Watched your video frame by frame and determined the efficiency of each chest, so thanks very much for including a full run here, it was very helpful. Looks like all the boxes in the first room are 5.0 key-to-stone efficiency, then every other box in the other rooms are only 4.5 with the exception of the very last one which is only 4.05.
If you calculate the running efficiency of each chest, the numbers show that the first room starts at infinity (because the first one is free) and then the second comes in at 10, ending in the 5th being 5.33 stones/key. Then the rest of the rooms decline at an even rate in running efficiency to 4.65, 4.56, and last room is only 4.49. Adding in the 18 you get from the bonus chest, brings total clear efficiency to 4.53 stones/key. Also, if you're looking for that tenacity vessel, the early chests are less keys/chest which means you will be able to open more chests with the same number of keys than if you try to save them up. Assuming all chests have an equal drop rate for the vessel (which we don't really know) then opening daily is more efficient in that way as well.
So TLDR: if you just clear the first room every day, you'll get about 5.33 stones for every key. If you save up for a full clear, you'll only get 4.53 stones for every key which is almost 1 whole less stone per key! So clear the first room every day people! It's way better for you.
Thanks for this! Since this video recording I still haven't got it but i've been opening the first room most days while throwing in the second room once in a while if my key total gets high-ish. I think you are right though the first room seems like the way to go for sure. Really good info here!
Also note this makes sense due the currency of time so to speak. Since you can buy keys giving less vessels per key curbs the reward for the amount of vessels collected per day over time. Yes you get a better key to vessel ratio clearing the first room daily but if you pay you essentially get more vessels per day,. There is an increased cost per key and to your wallet for that convenience.
Also it's lose lose just saving f2p keys due to time not not clearing the first room while you save them. Maybe it's a little better for your time but definitely not for the key cost per vessel.
Make a video so we can understand clearly
thank you for the video, also for a lot people who don't know the most efficient floor is the first floor as its a 5 resource to 1 key ratio. Later floors it is not as efficient..around 4.5 resources per key
Fahd's Tenacity is a facade. Uhm, but it's kinda lame how they'd gate something so important like this to a super lucky RNG drop. I think doing a full clear should give it to you. Also kinda funny the bonus chest drops like 10. Woah now.
I honestly just got Iben Fahds Tenacity from the 4th chest I opened. (If I include the free chest).
I didn't for me 2X!
i luckly got this one today atm and search this on youtube . wow im so happy . hahah
Wow, I just watched this and then hit it on my second box!
Wow! Lucky! I still dont have it haha
But it does cost something don't remember the type if it's orbs or whatever to open crates, chests...if you don't have those then you'll have to spend cash to aquire them.
Do you get a mission for this later in the game or do you gotta find it yourself?
I got it off of the free chest so I'm intrigued on what the odds are on that
Wow grats! Yeah that must be mega rare!
I lucked out first chest first run didn’t even know it was rare until I was looking up what it was lol
Wow lucky! I still haven't got it!
i can't believe it i just watched the video and logged in game then went into the sanctum and and i got it in first chest in second room😅
but what does it do?
I open all the chest very quick, it won't work i think bugged or not, i cant get the iben fahd tenacity, i try many time plss dude help me.
This one in particular i had it pretty quick XD one of the first clears i made. I can't remember if it was just 1st or 2nd room though.
3 full clear and 30 days still don't have it
I never got it I did a whole clear lol did it one time only from grinding an pay just a little made sure it wasn’t too much. But I’m just saving the keys up now
Thanks, I appreciate the science showing that opening all doesn't guarantee it.
Is the drop of fahds tenacity guaranteed when you clear all boxes or can you still end up not getting it?
Yeah its not guaranteed at all. In this video I did a full clear and didn't get it. I actually still haven't got it and this was recorded weeks ago! rip
if youre asking this question in the comments you never even watched his video...
@@nerelco that is true. It’s sometimes a more efficient way to get an answer. Also I have a newborn at home and watching a whole video with sound isn’t alway possible.
Been doing it since diablo released. Still no tentacle
Hello, I have done this 8 times completely with 360 keys, but I still haven't managed to get it, is there a special way to get it? Barbarian class level 400
So I’ll probably hold off this maybe for real I’ll do some little clear maybe like just a room now but not all the time
I am 970 paragon lvl and i dont have this gem ,😢
I got it on my 4th total chest opening. I was like woah, what’s this… lol
How do you get hundreds of keys, I only have like 100 after a month? I must be missing something.
Hi, I got 325 keys right now in 2 weeks. Buy 5 from the Hilts trader and 4 from the Sanctum. Also, if you are a shadow there's a blessing in which you can get 1 key per elder rift run (max 3). A total of 12 a day. The rest of the keys I got are from the events.
I was confused and thought I got a legendary armor or something
The names Iben Fahd means son of leopard 🐆 in arabic just a fun information
Opened all of them even the last hidden chest and no luck 😭
Can you get it Hell 1 or better level.
The place where you have to place it describes says it has to be in Hell 1
What are the advantages of upgrading the Sanctum?? It doesn’t inc my CR… then Y is it there in the game?
Yeah no CR from it sadly but you still get some other stat upgrades which will make you stronger.
I've cleared the first room every day since launch and still dont have it....rng gods hate me
Saaaame! I haven't missed a day yet and still don't have it!
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I still haven't gotten it, and I'm level 907. I used keys and platinum 🤷🏽♂️
WOW That is super unlucky! I hope you get it soon!
I have 48 paragon and still don't have it.. Unlucky
Damn! Yeah I've seen some people get it at like Paragon 3 but I don't have it yet at 44 and someone 50 in our guild also still doesn't have it! I guess some of us are just mega unlucky.
@@DegenTP up to this day, im 301 Paragon and still don't have it. Open every day. Clear once back when. Rng is just too brutal.
Ty man
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full clears dont get it?!?!
Sadly they won't :( I still haven't got it and i recorded this weeks ago!
I must have gotten lucky. I opened a chest in the first room and got it
Yep! Thats exactly what happened to some other guildies who ended up with it!
So you’re meaning to tell I got lucky on my main account when it dropped? Lol that’s shitty lol I don’t want to spend 377 keys just for it not to drop 😢
Did u get it ??
Nope! Not yet, sadly. I've done the first room every day since launch and a bunch of other random rooms outside of that when I have the keys for it. Still nothing.
It's the last vessel I need 🤣 not a lucky person so....
Same! GL to us!
I have done 5 full clear and wow nothing lol
Wow bad luck, U never done full clear, but cleared 1st chest room every day for a month, no luck
It RNG on purpose, Its and Activation thing to get you yo use REAL money . BS. If you get 380 damn Keys you should get it on the last damn chest.
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