Speak For Yourself Warriors have been outplayed by Toronto about 90% of the series so far. A couple of cold stretches by Toronto gave GSW some games. Kwahi wins game 6
It was right then that I knew he had no business even thinking about going out for game 5. Even if he had a good practice I still wouldn't want him out there simply because of how long hes been out his injury must be serious.
True, Jalen was right and very rational, i was shocked how former players like damon jones and Kd's friend Jay Williams were so amped to see him back "Let him go, let him play, hes the best player in the world" that they never for a moment realized how he could reinjure himself in doin that. One month off, no practices, he had ice all over the achilles and you go 12/14 mins?. And then after the injury Jay goes "The comeback was rushed, he shouldnt have done it if he didnt feel 1000%" WOW. Seriously?? Why a 2 time finals mvp need to injure himself in order to get respect from media and fans?There should be a line between playing injured and total foolishness.
I have not heard any media people say he did not want to play. It has, however, been widely reported that Warriors coach and players speculated that way.
The issue is most of these dudes don't have coping skills. KLeonard has coping skills...he said NO. He doesn't care what ANYONE thinks outside his family. He does him. He moves at his own flow. Marcellus was spot on with RGIII.
Eddie Jones You are so right!Everybody thought because Spurs doctor cleared him he should play. Kawahi said no something nots right.To this day he's still hobbling around. Could it be from the Zsa Zsa incident?
@@johnanders6234 I think it is related...I think he has quad tendinitis which can feel like a tear....when he dunked on Giannis and started stepping awkwardly that's quad lockin up from fatigue...
This KD injury validates Kawhi's decision not to play last year while he still felt pain although the Spurs team doctors cleared him. KD should not have played. Team doctors are to blame and any member of the Warriors that questioned him or pressured him to play should feel awful. By the way, that was a fake cry from the GM. NO adult buys those crocodile tears.
Marcellus explained it the best, emotions rule most of our decisions, will this injury be the end of KD, BS!! He's going to be tend by the best surgeon, and the best physical therapy available, a year off,he will be back
@@mig6pie That's the best case scenario. But remember that one injury of the like will compound into another one in the future. I have always said that Durant was too fragile and would break down eventually. I don't think he will be the same. My prediction is that he will retire in 3 seasons due to massive injuries.
sublime90 KD will still get a max deal somewhere if he wants it. Dude’s resume is solidified. Paul George broke his leg; sat out a year and came back BALLIN’!!!! KD will do the same thing. And the hype will be crazy
Mane to see RG3 come and go in one season was crazy to me. Marcellus spot on when he said RG3 died on the field cause he was never the same. Idk how good he couldn't been but we got robbed of what could've been
Not really he would have not succeeded unless they put him the shotgun 90 percent of the time which is not a problem almost all of the great quarterbacks of late play out of the gun makes the defense easier to read
@@coleeason6007 see that's all speculation, we dont know how he could've evolved. For all we know he could've been a game changing qb even though that's credited to Russell Wilson but it's still the same
@@hughjazz17 RG3 was a mobile qb, he needs his legs. When his legs got shot his confidence was shot also. To play qb you gotta have some type of ego. It's a hard role.
These were straight facts from Whitlock. A rare W. KD has listened to critics and fans for too long and this time it cost him. Report came in saying he “was no where near 100%”. You don’t play in any series when it was CLEARLY an achilles especially one your team is already down 1-3 in. It was foolish
It is puzzling why more consideration to a minutes restriction wasn't given. For a first game back, with lingering tenderness in the achilles area, playing Kevin in short bursts totalling up to 12-20 minutes tops would have made a lot of sense. It would've given the W's the lift they needed but also allowed Kevin to work his way back more carefully. When Kerr left Kevin out there, it was feeling like they were expecting Kevin to carry the team, which was incredibly risky and not fair to Kevin as an athlete.
Media been calling for KD to come back for weeks. He did it and it backfired and everyone’s piling on. Fat lock would’ve called KD selfish if he opted to sit out for the remainder of the season
KD didn't need a minutes restriction. He needed a role restriction. He was trying to block shots, fighting for rebounds, diving for loose balls. Iso plays? They should have had him out there as a spot up shooter.
He should have NOT been out there with a ginky achilles. I bet he didn't even have tape on. Plus these ballers need high top sneakers. His shoes do not support his foot.
NPAMike No he literally should have never been cleared to play at all.. hadn't even had one full practice in over a month! Putting him on the court out of desperation was just plain negligent!
Warriors should wear the We believe nobody should get KD jerseys..They ruined KD man....That’s messed up...Why did the warriors have to sacrifice KD just to win one game??? WHY??????
Nice try media, they’ve been putting pressure and changing the narrative ever since KD got to Oakland. Now they spinning it like they had nothing to do with KD being out on the basketball court, FOH!
Ofcourse, would the white liberal racist Wall st billionaire owner of GS would have ever shoved a white player and cursed him too. . No. There is a bias intent against Black, as long as Blacks are making billions for white owners , it is good , otherwise they are like disposable diapers. Look at the example of KD , he was forced to play Game 5 with an Achilles injury when the game was on the line and not Game 4. And now he is hurt and gone for good, the manager Myers was shedding crocodile tears. Was he really crying? No. He was trying to cover his track. Guilty conscience. Watch You tube video - compilation of Green dirty plays . What is so great about that? Once again Livingston intentionally elbowed Vleet , broke his tooth, and face , bleeding . Owner of GS shoved and called the "n" word to Lowry. There is a pattern of physical attack, so no opponent would dare defend the board and GS can have a shooting gallery and keep on winning championships by 1 point.
@@DSan-dk7ur FANS cheering! Its not for KD going down. Cheering has got everything to do with the owners of GS , who are heartless money grabbers. See how Lowry was pushed and shoved. GS is presently the most hated team in the world. Look at Bob Myers shedding crocodile tears for KD , that level of hypocrisy is worse than cheering for KD going down. It goes without saying.
@@DeepfriedBaby FANS cheering! Its not for KD going down. Cheering has got everything to do with the owners of GS , who are heartless money grabbers. See how Lowry was pushed and shoved. GS is presently the most hated team in the world. Look at Bob Myers shedding crocodile tears for KD , that level of hypocrisy is worse than cheering for KD going down. It goes without saying. I bet KD is of no use for GS moving forward so Bob Myers sheds crocodile tears to conceal his guilt and his desire to get rid of KD for good.
Consider this:1. KD will leave and the Warriors know2. A healthy KD to another team is not good for the Warriors3. This might be last push for championship for the Warriors considering their contract situation(KD leaving, Klay/Dray need massive money)4. 1-3 desperationAll in all, it almost looked like the Warriors purposely urge KD to play trying to use his last drop of blood not caring whether he lives or dies.
Durant’s injury was a result of his own overwhelming insecurity. Instead of shutting out all the noise and looking out for his best interest he chose to appease critics, teammates who said they didn’t need him to win, and fans. This lapse of judgement has cost him prime years and future accolades. Yes his staff deserves some of the blame but most of the blame should rest on KDs shoulders. This should be a lesson to everyone...be your own person and look out for yourself.
Ofcourse, would the white liberal racist Wall st billionaire owner of GS would have ever shoved a white player and cursed him too. . No. There is a bias intent against Black, as long as Blacks are making billions for white owners , it is good , otherwise they are like disposable diapers. Look at the example of KD , he was forced to play Game 5 with an Achilles injury when the game was on the line and not Game 4. And now he is hurt and gone for good, the manager Myers was shedding crocodile tears. Was he really crying? No. He was trying to cover his track. Guilty conscience. Watch You tube video - compilation of Green dirty plays . What is so great about that? Once again Livingston intentionally elbowed Vleet , broke his tooth, and face , bleeding . Owner of GS shoved and called the "n" word to Lowry. There is a pattern of physical attack, so no opponent would dare defend the board and GS can have a shooting gallery and keep on winning championships by 1 point.
Lol all of this is pretending like he re-injured his calf. It’s a completely new injury, if it was a knee there wouldn’t be all this conjecture. But since it’s close to the area narratives replace facts. His agent, doctor, team doctors probably talked about the threat to his existing injury. SMH come ppl, some reason & logic here?? You think these ppl put their careers, reps on the line if Achilles was injured?? Everyone knows that’s 1 yr recovery. Just an unfortunate coincidence, he could’ve injury Achilles dancing, dunking or stepping off the bus. But I know it’s not as sexy as drama, “white liberals”, and all the narratives unoriginal thinkers slurp up & regurgitate ( people please disabuse yourselves of this phony red/blue apocalypse you imagine yourselves in)
I don’t blame the media I blame KD here’s why... Get away from Social Media, Channel out all the negativity. LeBron goes Zero Dark Thirty you don’t see him in Social Media during the playoffs. Now, Kawhi was injured all year in 2018 and the media and the his own team the Spurs called him out. Spurs doctors cleared him but Kawhi insisted he’s not 100%. KD should of done what Kawhi did, listen to your body and don’t let the critics get to you. That’s the problem with KD he’s ultra sensitive that he wants to prove everyone he’s right to play. Wrong move and hopefully does not ruin his career. The Franchise cares about only solely on the Organization. Warriors know he’s 50/50 leaving why not use his last legs to go.
The media hypocrisy is mind-blowing. KD needs to prove that he is the man, he needs his own team blablabla... They have been pushing the narrative of his weak character for years now... which of course he is not insensitive to. Now, he gets hurt... Media be like, he has heart, he had nothing to prove ... Smh
The World has to realize that 99% of NBA players have to eventually turn into a pawn, at some point, no matter what chess piece you came in as.... [FACTS]
This just shows how the Raptors were legit beating the brakes off the Warriors to the point where they HAD to resort to a hobbled KD to save em & now he's even worse off smh
I think KD can opt in for the 2019-2020 Warrior's season. Then leave, or stay after that. He'd get paid to rehab his AT by the Warriors. I also read that even though injured, three teams will offer him a 4 year max contract to rehab for a year, with expectations of three great years of play after the rehab. I hope he opts in with the Warriors. No need to make another team pay him to rehab.
KD been a soft guy his whole life. Then he went to the Warriors and tried to become a tough guy and it costed him. The lesson is be who you are not who people want you to be.
So true. He's an emotional guy too. He wakes up one day and changes his mind. He got suckered into playing when he had everything to lose. GSW should be ashamed of what they did to him. San antonio spurs would have never done that.
That's because he didnt know the severity of the injury. Warriors knew and hid it from him. But the warriors have the veto power and they should had never let him play. They were desperate. And not to restrict his mins by wearing him out is inexcusable.
@@mufidlassissi5058 naw I hate lebron so I have been rooting for the warriors the last 5 years 😂😂😂. It just sickens me when I see employers treat employees like they are expendable. Thats what kd was for the warriors since they knew he was gone. If he got hurt, not their problem. That will be the Knicks and that's just wrong.
No matter how you slice it, the situation is F*ed up. Hope KD returns to 90% of form. Those injuries and microfracture surgery are the beginning of the end for most players.
1000% Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Derrick Rose, Amar'e Stoudemire, even Wilkins who bounced back sharply declined the year after. I think Durant will really regret this decision.
Facts. Davis was suffering from a migraine and couldn’t see and he used him as a decoy. Don’t get me started on RG3. Coaches don’t have the players best interests. All about wins.
Great, here we go with these media mafias. Same people who were saying he should come back now all of sudden are back tracking. Look in the mirror you are the ones to blame but unfortunately KD suffers the consequences...smh. Plus you guys don't even know the conversations the organization had with KD SAD!!! Get well KD.
Warriors greed is what this was .... the odds of winning three straight AND KD not getting injured were really long. Raptos had outplayed Warrirors in all 4 first play-off games.
Lets see how classy they are. What they will say is KD opt in get your 31 to sit next year. Then NEXT summer they will evaluate him and determine if he gets that bread....You are right they SHOULD....but lol business doesn't work that way....THATS why these dudes need to totally understand their value! KD lost 150mil the other night.
The report said that his workout did not go well on Friday...Personally i thought it was an Achilles injury from the jump. He didnt reach down and grab his calf, he grabbed down by his achillies. Theres a reason why everyone kept saying that they didnt expect him back at all in the in the finals. Folks knew what the real deal was and now we're seeing and hearing the true emotions from folks. Kd is a grown man and he made his choice but someone should've been in his corner and not let him go out there. Kawhi has walked this path, but he chose to put his career in front of other peoples interest. It feels like there's more to unpack here but I hope the best for KD. It sucks that he took this chance for a fan base who has consistently questioned his value on the team. Like Klay said...Kd is not only the best player on the team, but the planet. This team was not better off without KD on any level. They wouldve lost last night if it wasnt for KD and he only played 11 minutes...smh...Lets go Raptors!
wow this show is way better than any of the other more popular talk shows. No idiocy, no yelling over each other, no forced solid black and white opinions for the purpose of creating an argument or pandering to the widest possible array of fans.
@donnell brown Kawai had an injury that his team tried to rush him back. KD had an injury that he should have just sat out. I can see why he wanted to comeback but if it’s the team that pressured him then shame on him for listening to them instead of his own body.
@@ediddy2497 you do sas just asked him is he coming back but he would not give them a answer. An do you know that kd pushed them to let him come back? An kd team said he was going to come back by game 5?
No one can know if your going to tear some body ligaments. It's no one's fault. I had a friend for torn his Achilles walking and another light jogging back on a basketball court. Both had no symptoms of leg injury or signs. It's unfortunate for K.D.
@@markmittens just because KD has a calf injury doesn't necessary means he'll have a torn Achilles if he played. Just from my own experience and personal health, when I play BB, I'll get calf tightness and burning sensation but I haven't torn my Achilles tendon. Every situation is different for people. Plus, a person genetics make up could play a role in a injury. Look at Kobe when he torn his, he had no calf related injury.
justSaying But KD never had a calf injury. It was always the Achilles. Look, dozens of media outlets openly discussed the possibility of injury if KD came back too soon. Some begged on TV for him not to come back, that not even a third ring is worth it. If something that is so openly and widely predicted comes true, the natural reaction shouldn’t be “oh, that was random”. KD’s injury was reasonably foreseeable and the natural outcome of coming back too soon, while still injured, without conditioning or build up.
Stop crying and ranting this is what warriors do, kd came in to this game knowingly there could be a risk, he is forever one of the best warrior in nba !! Rise up my warriors brothers Take game 7 in honer of kd!
From GS point of view unfortunately has to be based a bunch on the fact that KD isn't staying. If he was signed to long term deal, they'd never have let him go out there.
Steve Kerr’s character is definitely in question. Filled the media with so much on KD’s expected return, but has nothing to say now that KD is down. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
dude hadn't played in a month...oh no restrictions on min....uh....he hasn't practiced or nothing in a month??? I know he KD but come on respect the League the Game, the opponents....they are PROS...all that was wrong.
I'm sooo disappointed in you guys commentary.... you guys are hypocrites...KD's decision to return was personal,it was an attempt to prove you guys wrong....it is the media (commentors and analysis) that have applied the most pressure and should shoulder most of the blame....., daily (over the last 6-wks-you guys have questioned & debated: KD's heart, leadership, integrity, character, skills and more importantly....., his value to GS.....sooo before any of "you" point the finger(regarding KD's pressure to return...., you all, should first take ownership for your contribution.... It is not one analysis in that line of business, that's not aware of KD's sensitivities {your platform-sfys has increased in ratings, viewership and likes because of the continuing pouncing of KD's sensitivities.
That's the same thing I been saying(although not as articulate) they been saying all this for weeks and then when he go out and try to prove them wrong, they accept none of the blame.
Angelia Robinson I disagree, I don’t blame the comementary I blame KD here’s why... Get away from Social Media, Channel out all the negativity. LeBron goes Zero Dark Thirty you don’t see him in Social Media during the playoffs. Now, Kawhi was injured all year in 2018 and the media and the his own team the Spurs called him out. Spurs doctors cleared him but Kawhi insisted he’s not 100%. KD should of done what Kawhi did, listen to your body and don’t let the critics get to you. That’s the problem with KD he’s ultra sensitive that he wants to prove everyone he’s right to play. Wrong move and hopefully does not ruin his career. The Franchise cares about only solely on the Organization. Warriors know he’s 50/50 leaving why not use his last legs to go.
Em Oso exactly it something that's overlooked of Lebron. Dude has gotten hate since he stepped on the court but he learned. In 2011 he melted down bc he wanted to prove everyone wrong but he learned from that and said never again. KD is too caught up in everything, it's human, and it's inevitable to get hate when you make a decision he did, but he's gotta have his circle tell him to stop worrying about every comment on IG. And the media wasn't on KD bc he wasn't playing in the finals, everyone knew in the media that he was injured. They liked seeing him out on the court but inside everyone was concerned
TrillTandon Pure Facts!!!!! Completely agree. That’s what makes LeBron so unique and he’s learned from that in 2011 like you stated. You want to know how all of this could of been avoided it pretty simple. After Game 5 of Houston series when he got injured, Golden State Front Office and Coach should of said “ KD is out indefinitely and will not play in the playoffs” end of story. But no they played everyone from the Portland Series to the NBA Finals that he will be back after every single game that was being played.
@@emoso509 sooo Lebron doesn't listen to the media huh..... soooooo what do you call trying to trade the whole Lakers team for AD, it was a two year deal media talking about Lebron missing the playoffs had him trying to make immature moves
Should have, could have, would have in hindsight the media are genius. If KD did not re-injured and GSW won they would have applaud him and praise him and the team for great decision. What a bunch of whinners.
@@christianroberts6033 It is fairly normal for players to play less minutes. Change matchups and plays so they dont get into physical tussle. KD is a great spot up shooter. Just use that, instead he was running plays doing cross overs etc.
The risk and injury that KD suffered will only be justified is if and only if the Warriors 3 peat. Now KD has something to show for it, and more importantly he can emphatically say he was the reason they won game 5 which kept the series alive!
Will the Warriors be able to win Game 6 without KD?
Nope raptors got game 6
Speak For Yourself Warriors have been outplayed by Toronto about 90% of the series so far. A couple of cold stretches by Toronto gave GSW some games. Kwahi wins game 6
I hope not raptors in 6 damnet
Speak For Yourself
Shannon Sharpe had the best take. Don't trust team doctors. They have agendas.
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So the media not going to accept no responsibility
Jalen Rose was the only dude in the media who stood up and says KD didn’t look good in practice and warmup
Yup
Jalen was also one of the main talking heads spreading toxic narratives about KD.
KD was dancing and dunking the ball before the game. He looked and felt just fine and that's why he decided he was good to go !!!
It was right then that I knew he had no business even thinking about going out for game 5. Even if he had a good practice I still wouldn't want him out there simply because of how long hes been out his injury must be serious.
True, Jalen was right and very rational, i was shocked how former players like damon jones and Kd's friend Jay Williams were so amped to see him back "Let him go, let him play, hes the best player in the world" that they never for a moment realized how he could reinjure himself in doin that. One month off, no practices, he had ice all over the achilles and you go 12/14 mins?. And then after the injury Jay goes "The comeback was rushed, he shouldnt have done it if he didnt feel 1000%" WOW. Seriously??
Why a 2 time finals mvp need to injure himself in order to get respect from media and fans?There should be a line between playing injured and total foolishness.
Sports analyst : KD doesn’t want to play and is bailing on the Warriors.
KD gets hurt .. KD should have never played
Monday morning quarterbacking is the best quarterbacking. You never lose.
Facts, vultures
I have not heard any media people say he did not want to play. It has, however, been widely reported that Warriors coach and players speculated that way.
@@Californiasnow best said that way.
Exactly! They just want someone to blame but they have a part to play in it too
The issue is most of these dudes don't have coping skills. KLeonard has coping skills...he said NO. He doesn't care what ANYONE thinks outside his family. He does him.
He moves at his own flow.
Marcellus was spot on with RGIII.
Eddie Jones You are so right!Everybody thought because Spurs doctor cleared him he should play. Kawahi said no something nots right.To this day he's still hobbling around. Could it be from the Zsa Zsa incident?
An expert on the subject, huh? Foolio!
@@edub9716 Spoken like a dude with no coping skills.
@@edub9716 You know....expert...hmmm NO. Degree in sports science/medicine ABSOLUTELY. 2 Degrees actually. But who wants to know?
@@johnanders6234 I think it is related...I think he has quad tendinitis which can feel like a tear....when he dunked on Giannis and started stepping awkwardly that's quad lockin up from fatigue...
This KD injury validates Kawhi's decision not to play last year while he still felt pain although the Spurs team doctors cleared him. KD should not have played. Team doctors are to blame and any member of the Warriors that questioned him or pressured him to play should feel awful. By the way, that was a fake cry from the GM. NO adult buys those crocodile tears.
what happened to KD was a vindication for Kawhii for his decision about his injury during Spurs time.
That's not what Skip Bayless said 😂🤣😅🤣😂. I still can't believe after seeing what happened to KD he still hates Kawhi Leonard. UNBELIEVABLE
Media: before game 5, KD has to play even he's not 100%.
Media: after game 5, KD shouldn't have played, what was he thinking.
Jalen rose was the only person in the media who stoop up and said that kd didn't even look good in practice and warmups
I said the exact thing as Marcellus when I saw KD was jumping for the Warriors at the opening tip-off ... unbelievable.
Marcellus explained it the best, emotions rule most of our decisions, will this injury be the end of KD, BS!! He's going to be tend by the best surgeon, and the best physical therapy available, a year off,he will be back
@@mig6pie That's the best case scenario. But remember that one injury of the like will compound into another one in the future. I have always said that Durant was too fragile and would break down eventually. I don't think he will be the same. My prediction is that he will retire in 3 seasons due to massive injuries.
@@Blodia1990 nah he's definitely playing out his new contract
Roberto Masensi that’s false kd could just rely on his shooting ability and be a top 10 player in the league
@@armed3dangerous270 I hope I'm wrong and want him to be back stronger than ever
the warriors management killed KD last night because they know he was gonna bounce in the summer. so if we cant have him, no one can.
sublime90 KD will still get a max deal somewhere if he wants it. Dude’s resume is solidified. Paul George broke his leg; sat out a year and came back BALLIN’!!!! KD will do the same thing. And the hype will be crazy
Mane to see RG3 come and go in one season was crazy to me. Marcellus spot on when he said RG3 died on the field cause he was never the same. Idk how good he couldn't been but we got robbed of what could've been
Not really he would have not succeeded unless they put him the shotgun 90 percent of the time which is not a problem almost all of the great quarterbacks of late play out of the gun makes the defense easier to read
@@coleeason6007 see that's all speculation, we dont know how he could've evolved. For all we know he could've been a game changing qb even though that's credited to Russell Wilson but it's still the same
It was a knee injury. Those dont end qbs. Rg3 is done cuz he was an egomaniac headcase and couldnt play qb(throwing the ball)
@@hughjazz17 RG3 was a mobile qb, he needs his legs. When his legs got shot his confidence was shot also. To play qb you gotta have some type of ego. It's a hard role.
Rg3 and kd cannot be compared. Rg3 did his career in in years, not one year because he could not shut up.
These were straight facts from Whitlock. A rare W. KD has listened to critics and fans for too long and this time it cost him. Report came in saying he “was no where near 100%”. You don’t play in any series when it was CLEARLY an achilles especially one your team is already down 1-3 in. It was foolish
It is puzzling why more consideration to a minutes restriction wasn't given. For a first game back, with lingering tenderness in the achilles area, playing Kevin in short bursts totalling up to 12-20 minutes tops would have made a lot of sense. It would've given the W's the lift they needed but also allowed Kevin to work his way back more carefully. When Kerr left Kevin out there, it was feeling like they were expecting Kevin to carry the team, which was incredibly risky and not fair to Kevin as an athlete.
Mike N sounds like you should have been the coach for game 5. Might have ended differently
Media been calling for KD to come back for weeks. He did it and it backfired and everyone’s piling on.
Fat lock would’ve called KD selfish if he opted to sit out for the remainder of the season
Fat lock🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ric was spot on.
King Larr Yup
They shouldve showed Bob Myer oscar performance on the podium
Bob Myers best actor performance in GM basketball operation. They are so desperate.
Robert Clawson neither are you
Mr SS Horrible performance... more razzie then oscar
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whitlock on point Kerr deserves the most blame he should'v put him on a minutes restriction.
KD didn't need a minutes restriction. He needed a role restriction. He was trying to block shots, fighting for rebounds, diving for loose balls. Iso plays? They should have had him out there as a spot up shooter.
He should have NOT been out there with a ginky achilles. I bet he didn't even have tape on. Plus these ballers need high top sneakers. His shoes do not support his foot.
NPAMike No he literally should have never been cleared to play at all.. hadn't even had one full practice in over a month! Putting him on the court out of desperation was just plain negligent!
Sounds like Bob Myers pressured Kerr to hurry KD back.
Love the articulation from all the guys here, great work,
Lenord very wise down to earth basketball player
The sad and crazy thing is KD might not even come back the same player given the nature of Achilles injuries.
he might retire with it man.. Kobe is one,
No one ever has returned to full form. D-Wilkins is the closest one I can think of.
"Look how they massacred my boy".
godfather 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Straight up bro.. didn't like that he went to GS but they messed over my boy.
Brilliant man
Everything Ric said after 10:00 was right on the money.
God Bless you KD you tried. Take care of yourself.
Collateral Damage
Warriors should wear the We believe nobody should get KD jerseys..They ruined KD man....That’s messed up...Why did the warriors have to sacrifice KD just to win one game??? WHY??????
Nice try media, they’ve been putting pressure and changing the narrative ever since KD got to Oakland. Now they spinning it like they had nothing to do with KD being out on the basketball court, FOH!
Exactly!
Facts💯
Bob Meyers: we won the game but what did it cost us
Kd: Achilles
Ofcourse, would the white liberal racist Wall st billionaire owner of GS would have ever shoved a white player and cursed him too. . No. There is a bias intent against Black, as long as Blacks are making billions for white owners , it is good , otherwise they are like disposable diapers.
Look at the example of KD , he was forced to play Game 5 with an Achilles injury when the game was on the line and not Game 4. And now he is hurt and gone for good, the manager Myers was shedding crocodile tears. Was he really crying? No. He was trying to cover his track. Guilty conscience.
Watch You tube video - compilation of Green dirty plays . What is so great about that? Once again Livingston intentionally elbowed Vleet , broke his tooth, and face , bleeding . Owner of GS shoved and called the "n" word to Lowry. There is a pattern of physical attack, so no opponent would dare defend the board and GS can have a shooting gallery and keep on winning championships by 1 point.
9-11 was an inside job! Second shooter in the grassy knoll! Kubrick shot the moon landing! Trix are indeed for kids!
@@DSan-dk7ur FANS cheering! Its not for KD going down. Cheering has got everything to do with the owners of GS , who are heartless money grabbers. See how Lowry was pushed and shoved. GS is presently the most hated team in the world. Look at Bob Myers shedding crocodile tears for KD , that level of hypocrisy is worse than cheering for KD going down. It goes without saying.
Lizard Illuminati!!
@@DeepfriedBaby FANS cheering! Its not for KD going down. Cheering has got everything to do with the owners of GS , who are heartless money grabbers. See how Lowry was pushed and shoved. GS is presently the most hated team in the world. Look at Bob Myers shedding crocodile tears for KD , that level of hypocrisy is worse than cheering for KD going down. It goes without saying. I bet KD is of no use for GS moving forward so Bob Myers sheds crocodile tears to conceal his guilt and his desire to get rid of KD for good.
I finally agree with Whitlock. The Warriors organization have a stink on them now.
The decision to have played of course is in hindsight, but I would trade a GS win last night for a loss with a healthy KD
Consider this:1. KD will leave and the Warriors know2. A healthy KD to another team is not good for the Warriors3. This might be last push for championship for the Warriors considering their contract situation(KD leaving, Klay/Dray need massive money)4. 1-3 desperationAll in all, it almost looked like the Warriors purposely urge KD to play trying to use his last drop of blood not caring whether he lives or dies.
Durant’s injury was a result of his own overwhelming insecurity. Instead of shutting out all the noise and looking out for his best interest he chose to appease critics, teammates who said they didn’t need him to win, and fans. This lapse of judgement has cost him prime years and future accolades. Yes his staff deserves some of the blame but most of the blame should rest on KDs shoulders. This should be a lesson to everyone...be your own person and look out for yourself.
Krazie Genius ain’t hard to tell
Nah.... Myers and Kerr's fault, they should have protected KD the person and not looked out for themselves and use KD the athlete!!!!!!
This is on KD. No one would have judged him for sitting but I'm sure he wanted to play.
It's quite obvious KD shouldn't have been on the court for game 5.
IT WAS A #HORRENDOUS DECISION!
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The title.....Duhhh!! If they was up 3-1 he WOULDN'T have played!!!
That’s the problem, it’s so immoral to sacrifice him
@@damilareajani5747 in the eyes of the organization...he's just a chess piece my G
Ofcourse, would the white liberal racist Wall st billionaire owner of GS would have ever shoved a white player and cursed him too. . No. There is a bias intent against Black, as long as Blacks are making billions for white owners , it is good , otherwise they are like disposable diapers.
Look at the example of KD , he was forced to play Game 5 with an Achilles injury when the game was on the line and not Game 4. And now he is hurt and gone for good, the manager Myers was shedding crocodile tears. Was he really crying? No. He was trying to cover his track. Guilty conscience.
Watch You tube video - compilation of Green dirty plays . What is so great about that? Once again Livingston intentionally elbowed Vleet , broke his tooth, and face , bleeding . Owner of GS shoved and called the "n" word to Lowry. There is a pattern of physical attack, so no opponent would dare defend the board and GS can have a shooting gallery and keep on winning championships by 1 point.
Exactly right!
Lol all of this is pretending like he re-injured his calf. It’s a completely new injury, if it was a knee there wouldn’t be all this conjecture. But since it’s close to the area narratives replace facts. His agent, doctor, team doctors probably talked about the threat to his existing injury.
SMH come ppl, some reason & logic here?? You think these ppl put their careers, reps on the line if Achilles was injured?? Everyone knows that’s 1 yr recovery. Just an unfortunate coincidence, he could’ve injury Achilles dancing, dunking or stepping off the bus.
But I know it’s not as sexy as drama, “white liberals”, and all the narratives unoriginal thinkers slurp up & regurgitate ( people please disabuse yourselves of this phony red/blue apocalypse you imagine yourselves in)
I don’t blame the media I blame KD here’s why... Get away from Social Media, Channel out all the negativity. LeBron goes Zero Dark Thirty you don’t see him in Social Media during the playoffs. Now, Kawhi was injured all year in 2018 and the media and the his own team the Spurs called him out. Spurs doctors cleared him but Kawhi insisted he’s not 100%. KD should of done what Kawhi did, listen to your body and don’t let the critics get to you. That’s the problem with KD he’s ultra sensitive that he wants to prove everyone he’s right to play. Wrong move and hopefully does not ruin his career. The Franchise cares about only solely on the Organization. Warriors know he’s 50/50 leaving why not use his last legs to go.
Man facts
The most intelligent discussion by far about this championship and KD. Salute!
GS won the battle but lost the war
Mr SS Not yet
The media hypocrisy is mind-blowing. KD needs to prove that he is the man, he needs his own team blablabla... They have been pushing the narrative of his weak character for years now... which of course he is not insensitive to. Now, he gets hurt... Media be like, he has heart, he had nothing to prove ... Smh
The worse I heard was "He gotta leave the team AND win a chip to be solidified as one of the greats" The media is wild
The World has to realize that 99% of NBA players have to eventually turn into a pawn, at some point, no matter what chess piece you came in as....
[FACTS]
This just shows how the Raptors were legit beating the brakes off the Warriors to the point where they HAD to resort to a hobbled KD to save em & now he's even worse off smh
I think KD can opt in for the 2019-2020 Warrior's season. Then leave, or stay after that. He'd get paid to rehab his AT by the Warriors. I also read that even though injured, three teams will offer him a 4 year max contract to rehab for a year, with expectations of three great years of play after the rehab. I hope he opts in with the Warriors. No need to make another team pay him to rehab.
KD been a soft guy his whole life. Then he went to the Warriors and tried to become a tough guy and it costed him. The lesson is be who you are not who people want you to be.
Not "costed," bro. The word is cost.
So true. He's an emotional guy too. He wakes up one day and changes his mind. He got suckered into playing when he had everything to lose. GSW should be ashamed of what they did to him. San antonio spurs would have never done that.
He said it perfect they had to sacrifice kd for a game 6
Yea,that's lowdown.smh 😔
Warriors look bad on this one
Warriors organization should be investigated
For what? Did you not see report that kd pushed them to let him play
That's because he didnt know the severity of the injury. Warriors knew and hid it from him. But the warriors have the veto power and they should had never let him play. They were desperate. And not to restrict his mins by wearing him out is inexcusable.
sergio Macias lol just say you hate the warriors and move on
@@mufidlassissi5058 naw I hate lebron so I have been rooting for the warriors the last 5 years 😂😂😂. It just sickens me when I see employers treat employees like they are expendable. Thats what kd was for the warriors since they knew he was gone. If he got hurt, not their problem. That will be the Knicks and that's just wrong.
Bob Myers should be fired. Someone must pay.
is it me, but he didnt look to well moving when guarding on defense. he looked good on his catch on shoots, moving laterally he looked off
You could see a slight limp and favoring of one leg.
I said the same thing, rewound it and showed my cousin..
Yess! Remember the play when Siakam got called for reaching foul and Kd was handling the ball. I knew from then, he didn't look right.
No matter how you slice it, the situation is F*ed up. Hope KD returns to 90% of form. Those injuries and microfracture surgery are the beginning of the end for most players.
1000% Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Derrick Rose, Amar'e Stoudemire, even Wilkins who bounced back sharply declined the year after. I think Durant will really regret this decision.
@loc power Agreed!
Emotional context? Decisions made in an emotional state is NEVER wise. EVER!
KD's play early in the game is what won them the game. If they manage to win the series KD is the one that saved them.
Facts takeaway his points they loose
I blame Shanahan for RG3! He did the same thing to Terrell Davis! 🤬
Blood he ran both of them in the dirt. I always think what Rg3 could've been.
Facts. Davis was suffering from a migraine and couldn’t see and he used him as a decoy. Don’t get me started on RG3. Coaches don’t have the players best interests. All about wins.
Great, here we go with these media mafias. Same people who were saying he should come back now all of sudden are back tracking. Look in the mirror you are the ones to blame but unfortunately KD suffers the consequences...smh. Plus you guys don't even know the conversations the organization had with KD SAD!!! Get well KD.
Spot on , how many times Stephen A Smith and the media say KD is coming back look out , the media is foolish
@@adr3naline23 exactly but they certainly will not take responsibility. Like I said, unfortunately KD gets to suffer the consequences.
Warriors greed is what this was .... the odds of winning three straight AND KD not getting injured were really long. Raptos had outplayed Warrirors in all 4 first play-off games.
They said he’s leaving let’s run him into the ground
loc power nope, they never appreciated Durant
I'm gonna leave it to Bob Myers...
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Jason actually making good points for a change.
Teshorn Jackson He always makes good points. Just that two dimensional thinkers don’t understand where he’s coming from.
Said it. Shouldn't of been out there. No respect for going out there.
We not just gone act like playing with a broken leg as a wide receiver is just regular in the super bowl at that and perform the way he did.
owens is constantly overlooked cause he never won "the big dance" but he is one of the greatest american born athletes of all time
Now, the warriors *OWE it to KD* to give him a maximum deal, even if KD never plays again.
WRONG! It's a business, nobody owes anyone anything. Bet it doesn't happen.
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Sure, I bet you think Bob Myers "crocodile tears" were "remorseful" tears too...
Lets see how classy they are. What they will say is KD opt in get your 31 to sit next year. Then NEXT summer they will evaluate him and determine if he gets that bread....You are right they SHOULD....but lol business doesn't work that way....THATS why these dudes need to totally understand their value! KD lost 150mil the other night.
Lets watch the empty chair a little bit more🤦🏾♂️
I really wanted to hear chair's take on the KD situation..
I just scrolled and looked directly into an empty chair
Thought Thanos got fatlock for a second :)
Mondo Rubio 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Ghost analyst made great points tho
"Super Desperation Tactics". I used to think that was just a Street Fighter and Tekken thing. Golden State Warriors proved me wrong.
The report said that his workout did not go well on Friday...Personally i thought it was an Achilles injury from the jump. He didnt reach down and grab his calf, he grabbed down by his achillies. Theres a reason why everyone kept saying that they didnt expect him back at all in the in the finals. Folks knew what the real deal was and now we're seeing and hearing the true emotions from folks. Kd is a grown man and he made his choice but someone should've been in his corner and not let him go out there. Kawhi has walked this path, but he chose to put his career in front of other peoples interest. It feels like there's more to unpack here but I hope the best for KD. It sucks that he took this chance for a fan base who has consistently questioned his value on the team. Like Klay said...Kd is not only the best player on the team, but the planet. This team was not better off without KD on any level. They wouldve lost last night if it wasnt for KD and he only played 11 minutes...smh...Lets go Raptors!
Shouldn’t of played he’s value was already proven he should of sat out and got paid healed and ready for next season.
Once a leo turned lion now judah I was surprised he did
Does Whitlock have the Caron Butler hair stick'em?
@4:34 Who’s that guy??? 👀👀👀
I agree with him...
That's BJ Armstrong, a former player, and 3x NBA Champion during MJ's 1st 3-peat.
neoxsupreme whoosh
When the 🐐 speaks... we all listen
@@neoxsupreme He's talking about the empty chair my boy 🤣
I agree 100% they shouldn't let him play
wow this show is way better than any of the other more popular talk shows. No idiocy, no yelling over each other, no forced solid black and white opinions for the purpose of creating an argument or pandering to the widest possible array of fans.
Kerr did learn from Pop. I wish KD would have followed the KLaw lead and sat out.
E Diddy But then KD would have ended up on Skip Bayless’ hate list.
Lol kd an kawhi stuff is different why are you comparing them lol
@donnell brown Kawai had an injury that his team tried to rush him back. KD had an injury that he should have just sat out. I can see why he wanted to comeback but if it’s the team that pressured him then shame on him for listening to them instead of his own body.
E Diddy the irony is that Kawhi went down playing KD and now the reverse happened.
@@ediddy2497 you do sas just asked him is he coming back but he would not give them a answer. An do you know that kd pushed them to let him come back? An kd team said he was going to come back by game 5?
Spurs put Kawhi Leonard thru a similar situation. I hope he wins the chip just to rub it in General Popovich's face.
Very great breakdown of this horrible situation on KD. I hope and wish the absolute best for KD healthy recovery.
It’s sad cause this injury on kD will effect his career in the long run I believe
No one can know if your going to tear some body ligaments. It's no one's fault. I had a friend for torn his Achilles walking and another light jogging back on a basketball court. Both had no symptoms of leg injury or signs. It's unfortunate for K.D.
So when he shot around days before and had ice on it, that's not a sign?
@@markmittens just because KD has a calf injury doesn't necessary means he'll have a torn Achilles if he played. Just from my own experience and personal health, when I play BB, I'll get calf tightness and burning sensation but I haven't torn my Achilles tendon. Every situation is different for people. Plus, a person genetics make up could play a role in a injury. Look at Kobe when he torn his, he had no calf related injury.
justSaying But KD never had a calf injury. It was always the Achilles. Look, dozens of media outlets openly discussed the possibility of injury if KD came back too soon. Some begged on TV for him not to come back, that not even a third ring is worth it. If something that is so openly and widely predicted comes true, the natural reaction shouldn’t be “oh, that was random”. KD’s injury was reasonably foreseeable and the natural outcome of coming back too soon, while still injured, without conditioning or build up.
bob myers was crying last night because he was overcome with guilt
Didnt see one tear fall😂😂😂
100% agree. The boxing analogy is great.
These clowns. Its not about GSW. Its about Durant. Not GSW. He wanted to play with his teamates. Thats his resolve. Respect that
BJ Armstrong still looks like a kid. Aging well.
Justin Whitlock spitting FAX!!!!!
this injury us Durant's fault, he is a grown man and should've not let pressure get to him.
"I'm gonna leave that to Bob". That means Steve told Bob not to do it.
@ 4:35 when wiley saw that empty chair ahahahahahah
If the Warriors lose this series, this will be the conversation ALL SUMMER until the NFL/College football season starts.
Stop crying and ranting this is what warriors do, kd came in to this game knowingly there could be a risk, he is forever one of the best warrior in nba !!
Rise up my warriors brothers Take game 7 in honer of kd!
From GS point of view unfortunately has to be based a bunch on the fact that KD isn't staying. If he was signed to long term deal, they'd never have let him go out there.
It makes sense.
jason whitlock i almost never agree with you but you are right and on point with this one!! facts!!!!!
the title says it all. the GSW organization should be blamed for what KD is suffering.
How if kd pushed to play?
Steve Kerr’s character is definitely in question.
Filled the media with so much on KD’s expected return, but has nothing to say now that KD is down. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
dude hadn't played in a month...oh no restrictions on min....uh....he hasn't practiced or nothing in a month??? I know he KD but come on respect the League the Game, the opponents....they are PROS...all that was wrong.
Eddie Jones FACTS
I'm sooo disappointed in you guys commentary....
you guys are hypocrites...KD's decision to return was personal,it was an attempt to prove you guys wrong....it is the media
(commentors and analysis) that have applied the most pressure and should shoulder most of the blame....., daily (over the last 6-wks-you guys have questioned & debated: KD's heart, leadership, integrity, character, skills and more importantly....., his value to GS.....sooo before any of "you" point the finger(regarding KD's pressure to return...., you all, should first take ownership for your contribution....
It is not one analysis in that line of business, that's not aware of KD's sensitivities {your platform-sfys has increased in ratings, viewership and likes because of the continuing pouncing of KD's sensitivities.
That's the same thing I been saying(although not as articulate) they been saying all this for weeks and then when he go out and try to prove them wrong, they accept none of the blame.
Angelia Robinson I disagree, I don’t blame the comementary I blame KD here’s why... Get away from Social Media, Channel out all the negativity. LeBron goes Zero Dark Thirty you don’t see him in Social Media during the playoffs. Now, Kawhi was injured all year in 2018 and the media and the his own team the Spurs called him out. Spurs doctors cleared him but Kawhi insisted he’s not 100%. KD should of done what Kawhi did, listen to your body and don’t let the critics get to you. That’s the problem with KD he’s ultra sensitive that he wants to prove everyone he’s right to play. Wrong move and hopefully does not ruin his career. The Franchise cares about only solely on the Organization. Warriors know he’s 50/50 leaving why not use his last legs to go.
Em Oso exactly it something that's overlooked of Lebron. Dude has gotten hate since he stepped on the court but he learned. In 2011 he melted down bc he wanted to prove everyone wrong but he learned from that and said never again. KD is too caught up in everything, it's human, and it's inevitable to get hate when you make a decision he did, but he's gotta have his circle tell him to stop worrying about every comment on IG. And the media wasn't on KD bc he wasn't playing in the finals, everyone knew in the media that he was injured. They liked seeing him out on the court but inside everyone was concerned
TrillTandon Pure Facts!!!!! Completely agree. That’s what makes LeBron so unique and he’s learned from that in 2011 like you stated. You want to know how all of this could of been avoided it pretty simple. After Game 5 of Houston series when he got injured, Golden State Front Office and Coach should of said “ KD is out indefinitely and will not play in the playoffs” end of story. But no they played everyone from the Portland Series to the NBA Finals that he will be back after every single game that was being played.
@@emoso509 sooo Lebron doesn't listen to the media huh..... soooooo what do you call trying to trade the whole Lakers team for AD, it was a two year deal media talking about Lebron missing the playoffs had him trying to make immature moves
Should have, could have, would have in hindsight the media are genius. If KD did not re-injured and GSW won they would have applaud him and praise him and the team for great decision. What a bunch of whinners.
Praying for KD🙏🏾
and the question arises, how serious was the initial injury? no minutes restriction? particularly after a bad practice? somebody effed up royally here
The ice after those 12 minutes tightened the Achilles. Should've kept it warm.
Exactly
Bob should be fired. Cavs should hire Bob
Where do they get these guys from?
The best sports debate show on television. Period
KD could have played cautiously, but he went all in. Right from tip off, he was playing hard. Pushed his body too hard.
rahulbosebose1 It’s the NBA finals how can you play cautiously? They should have shut him down
@@christianroberts6033 It is fairly normal for players to play less minutes. Change matchups and plays so they dont get into physical tussle. KD is a great spot up shooter. Just use that, instead he was running plays doing cross overs etc.
The risk and injury that KD suffered will only be justified is if and only if the Warriors 3 peat. Now KD has something to show for it, and more importantly he can emphatically say he was the reason they won game 5 which kept the series alive!
How'd that go?
KD broke himself in vain
Speak for yourself : 4:34-4:36
Me : Ghost?!
The warriors are done
So whats up with Casper the friendly ghost not giving his take they did show his chair 😂
My man at 4:33 made the best point, just look at his mannerisms and facial reactions lol.